TEW 2013 - Impressions Thread

[BYU 14]

Just curious how many are looking at getting this? I had a good amount of fun with TEW 2010, though my one annoyance was the clickfest Adam's games are. From the early development entries it seems this may be reduced somewhat and the booking process will be a bit faster.

TEW2013 Developer's Journal - Grey Dog Software (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=517331)

[PilotMan]

Yep, it's on my radar.

[dfisher]

Looking forward to it, especially since I only have TEW 08. I might wait a little for some of the mods to come out first. I'm hoping he is able to incorporate umbrella organizations to have the NWA in the old territories.

[BYU 14]

Looking forward to it, especially since I only have TEW 08. I might wait a little for some of the mods to come out first. I'm hoping he is able to incorporate umbrella organizations to have the NWA in the old territories.

Big on my wish list too

[dfisher]

Features are looking pretty nice so far. He announced the umbrella organizations in today's journal entry. Nothing about a shared champion yet, but that might be coming Monday.

[PilotMan]

Sunday December 9th: TEW2013 Public Beta

Sunday December 16th: TEW2013 Retail

Pretty impressive feature list for this new version. I skipped the last couple so I'm in the market for it.

[INDalltheway]

I have only played the free version, TEW 2005, but I will almost certainly be buying this. I can't imagine the leap this version will be from that.

[Simbo Klice]

Big fan of Ryland's games. I don't even watch wrestling anymore but I still play TEW (and WMMA) with regularity.

[BYU 14]

Now just hoping a remake of the DOTT mod is done. Would be epic with the new features!!

[PurdueBrad]

I'll have to consider picking this up. I don't know much about it but I know Ryland has a good rep around here. The clickfest comment concerns me but I'll consider it.

How easy is it to set up a game world?

[BYU 14]

I'll have to consider picking this up. I don't know much about it but I know Ryland has a good rep around here. The clickfest comment concerns me but I'll consider it.

How easy is it to set up a game world?

Sounds like the clickfest will be reduced as he has consolidated a lot of things, still probably more than an average game. In terms if setting things up pretty quick and easy if you do not go in and edit a bunch of things. Basically choose your role, select a company (or start a new one) and off you go.

[PurdueBrad]

Cool, thanks BYU.

[molson]

Ryland's games always come out faster than I expect them to - December 16, awesome.

My first thought is to hold off until there's some real-life mods, but its been my experience that the non-DOTT mods in the game don't work too well. They can be accurate, but don't work so great as a game - maybe it's just the modern wrestling landscape isn't conducive to it, but for whatever reason, usually crazy stuff happens and the universe kind of implodes. Where on the other hand, I've heard great things about the playability of the fictional universe that Ryland's created, so maybe its finally time to give that a shot.

[dubb93]

Ryland's games always come out faster than I expect them to - December 16, awesome.

My first thought is to hold off until there's some real-life mods, but its been my experience that the non-DOTT mods in the game don't work too well. They can be accurate, but don't work so great as a game - maybe it's just the modern wrestling landscape isn't conducive to it, but for whatever reason, usually crazy stuff happens and the universe kind of implodes. Where on the other hand, I've heard great things about the playability of the fictional universe that Ryland's created, so maybe its finally time to give that a shot.

I love Ryland's universe he has created.

What kind of crazy stuff has ruined your mod games? I usually have fun with Genaldi's mods, especially his mods he has created later in the 2010 version of the game's lifespan.

I'm most interested in seeing the revision to show ratings. Finally you can rely on the strength of your angles since they are calculated into the shows rating rather than just adjusting it slightly once it is already calculated AND you can run angles that aren't great since they are calculated like matches with an emphasis on your top angles and your weaker ones count less towards the show's rating.

[BYU 14]

I will agree on the cornellverse. I had never played it until the last version and enjoyed it quite a bit playing NYCW.

Will also second Genaldi's mods, his 1987 mod was pretty stable for me and 2nd favorite after DOTT.

[dubb93]

I think what sets apart Ryland's world from the real world mods is that every single area in Ryland's world is interesting and playable. Most real world mods are made with a specific focus and if you don't play the promotion, or promotions, that are the focus then you don't get a good expierence.

Ryland's world has the best of everything. If has two National promotions in the US and another on the verge of National. It also has an active war going on in the Tri State area among lessor companies. Any of those promotions are playable.

It has a war between two massive companies in Japan with very differing ideas on how wrestling is to be handled. Further down it non-tradional companies, Japanese Sport's Entertainment, check, Japanese Death Matches, check. Each of these companies is completely playable.

Canada has two companies on the verge of going National that are locked in a war. One is a very Traditional company, the other is Sport's Entertainment. One of these companies just stole a huge star from the other. Both are playable.

Other areas are awesome too. Australia, another area with competing companies. Mexico has three that are about the same level and competing with each other.

On the other hand you only get out of it what you put in. If you aren't willing to read his history and know the storylines of the area you are playing in then you may not get a good experience.

He has a website for the world he has created, but it isn't even half the story. You really need to read it, and then read in game bios and company profiles to get the entire picture.

hxxp://www.greydogsoftware.com/cornellverse/

[BYU 14]

Thinking the demo may be out on this as the website is crashed :)

[dubb93]

Thinking the demo may be out on this as the website is crashed :)

Completely crashed. I'd say the demo is a good bet.

[BYU 14]

Demo just released, looking forward to checking out the new features and seeing how the game world has changed in the last 3 years. Hopefully NYCW is still around.

[General Mike]

I'll check it out. Might have to wait til the New Year tho.

[PilotMan]

Downloading the demo right now. I should have some time tonight to get a good look at it.

[BYU 14]

Interface is a lot slicker IMO, been spending the little time I have going through all the promotions, lots of nice little additions that add to the game. One I really like is the alumni section in the company profile section. Shows workers that used to be with the promotion that have moved on.

Hope to get a card in later and see if booking is quicker.

[jbergey22]

This came out earlier today!

Love the game but it is so hard to allocate enough time to it. In order to play it well you really have to plan ahead.

My personal preference is playing as TCW in the Cornellverse. Playing real world mods kind of boxes me in a corner that I dont know how to get out of. It seems I just want to recreate history which really isnt the purpose of this game. I guess Im not creative enough to do real world any other way.

[JonInMiddleGA]

My personal preference is playing as TCW in the Cornellverse. Playing real world mods kind of boxes me in a corner that I dont know how to get out of. It seems I just want to recreate history which really isnt the purpose of this game. I guess Im not creative enough to do real world any other way.

Is there a comprehensive real-world mod available yet/already?

FWIW, I have an almost opposite relationship with the (good) RW mods. I turn the history upside down and inside out in many cases but having the ability to "know" the characters generally is pretty much a must for me to be able to play such a historically click intensive game. Even with the enormous detailed spreadsheet I develop for my roster in each & every universe, without a certain comfort factor with the workers I really can't see me playing the game, would just be too incredibly tedious.

[DaddyTorgo]

Is there a comprehensive real-world mod available yet/already?

FWIW, I have an almost opposite relationship with the (good) RW mods. I turn the history upside down and inside out in many cases but having the ability to "know" the characters generally is pretty much a must for me to be able to play such a historically click intensive game. Even with the enormous detailed spreadsheet I develop for my roster in each & every universe, without a certain comfort factor with the workers I really can't see me playing the game, would just be too incredibly tedious.

Yeah, exactly.

Let me know when a DOTT-era mod comes out and I'll take a good look at it. Or a late-90's "Monday Night Wars" mod too.

[BYU 14]

Is there a comprehensive real-world mod available yet/already?

FWIW, I have an almost opposite relationship with the (good) RW mods. I turn the history upside down and inside out in many cases but having the ability to "know" the characters generally is pretty much a must for me to be able to play such a historically click intensive game. Even with the enormous detailed spreadsheet I develop for my roster in each & every universe, without a certain comfort factor with the workers I really can't see me playing the game, would just be too incredibly tedious.

Yeah, exactly.

Let me know when a DOTT-era mod comes out and I'll take a good look at it. Or a late-90's "Monday Night Wars" mod too.

Someone is finally making a new early 80's mod to model DOTT that starts in Jan 1983 called War to settle the score, still not released though.

Genaldi is also converting his '87 and '97 mods, so there will be some good real world stuff available shortly.

Like jbergey mentioned, still a game you have to plan ahead for, but you can now add angles as well as matches to pre-booking, so as I think of things I put them there as opposed to using the notepad like I used to.

The game is also a lot quicker when advancing between days now, which was an annoynace in the past.

[dubb93]

I'm not a huge fan of this version's CVERSE. For TEW 2010 I actually loved it, but I think this version is more of the same. The starting storylines, unlike last version, seem to just be a bunch of guys lumped together. This was obviously done to showcase the new storylines, but it doesn't do much to get me going.

SWF seems to have given the title to the one guy who I dislike booking. Their Main Event scene was completely stagnant for three years. USPW seems destined to fail at this point IMO and Japan seems to be more of the same too at the top level. Granted the regional scene in Japan is more interesting, but it seems at the cost of everything else.

I guess we were spoiled last version with a DeColt jumping ship to the rival family, the "Man Under Pressure" storyline in SWF with the arrival of Marat, and the INSPIRE closing/BHOTWG invasion in Japan. I can't find anything like that in this version. Makes me not want to play it. Seems I have nothing ready made for me to build on/run with. Hopefully it gets spruced up a bit at some point. Otherwise I'll be waiting for real world mods. I've already played this CVERSE to death last version. With nothing much happening, I just can't bring myself to play what I consider to be inferior data at this point.

EDIT: That said I do appreciate the new features. I can't wait to take them for a spin with data I can enjoy.

[TLK]

1994 Mod is Out (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=522239)

Anyone care to give it a try? On the fence about purchasing the game, but curiosity mixed with boredom will probably equal a purchase at some point over the next week.

[dubb93]

Hive's 1994 mod last year was excellent. This mod was late to the game for TEW 2010, and by the time it hit Hive had already learned from his 1995 and the other top modders putting out several mods. I can't play it yet, but he has basically stated that it is pretty much the same thing. He choose not to mess alot of the new modding features that he feels are too "deterministic." Things such as decline age, peak years, etc he left random.

Hive is my second favorite modder behind Genaldi. Genaldi's first mod will be out in "two weeks."

[Jon]

This may be a dumb question-- given wrestling in general-- but do you always have to pick a winner? I had the old TNM where I ran a fed without selecting the outcome if I wanted the title to change hands (if I wanted a certain outcome to build up the storyline I would do that). Just wondering

[jbergey22]

This may be a dumb question-- given wrestling in general-- but do you always have to pick a winner? I had the old TNM where I ran a fed without selecting the outcome if I wanted the title to change hands (if I wanted a certain outcome to build up the storyline I would do that). Just wondering

In this game you dont have to pick the winner. You can leave it blank and let the computer decide although they will normally pick the wrestler more over.

[BYU 14]

Love Genaldi's mods, also curious about the 1983 mod, which is out but in beta and I want to wait a bit before I try it.

[Raiders Army]

So after getting Wrestling Manager for the iPhone, I got the hankerin for some wrestling sim. I played the crap out of TNM and to me it was the perfect game. That being said, it's really old, doesn't run well on modern Windows, and is not as supported as it used to be. I bought TEW 2008 (I think, it might have been 2007), but I never got into it. I bought TEW 2013 today.

It's incredible. I'm playing the Cornellverse, Invincible Pro Wrestling. While it's really deep, it's also user-friendly for n00bs such as myself. I think I'm going to be playing this one for a while.

[Mota]

I loved TNM as well. Also had Lance Haffner Wrestling back in the mid 90's. I developed a pen and paper wrestling RPG in the 90's and we played over 150 cards worth of matches, so I had a full universe full of fictional wrestlers. I used to get together with a group of about 10 people at a gaming store every Monday night and we'd play a full show every week. Even non-wrestling people would show up just because of the fun atmosphere of rolling dice and playing together with a group of friends every week.

I wish there was a sim that could do what TNM did, simulate the wrestling world as a kayfabe world where the matches were "real" and as a booker you just put things together. I still enjoy TEW a lot but it's a totally different type of game.

[dubb93]

I keep having the game's sim hang and not advance when it runs computer shows. It's happening years down the road. It's made my game completely unplayable. For the first time I'm getting frustrated with the tech support. You post a thread, send in your save game, thread gets deleted, and you get no feedback.

He fixes the freeze when I do it, but months down the road it hangs again on another show the computer runs, and I've grown tired of starting threads only for them to be deleted all over again.

[DaddyTorgo]

I loved TNM as well. Also had Lance Haffner Wrestling back in the mid 90's. I developed a pen and paper wrestling RPG in the 90's and we played over 150 cards worth of matches, so I had a full universe full of fictional wrestlers. I used to get together with a group of about 10 people at a gaming store every Monday night and we'd play a full show every week. Even non-wrestling people would show up just because of the fun atmosphere of rolling dice and playing together with a group of friends every week.

I wish there was a sim that could do what TNM did, simulate the wrestling world as a kayfabe world where the matches were "real" and as a booker you just put things together. I still enjoy TEW a lot but it's a totally different type of game.

I played the hell out of TNM - and like you Mota, wish there was a similar game out there. TEW is different...not the same at all. I used to plan months of TNM cards and angles in a notebook while in class and stuff, and then book them out. It was fucking awesome.

Hell - I'd still play it if I could get it running decent on my rig these days.

[DaddyTorgo]

Any update on the historical mods?

[Ajaxab]

I've been looking into this game having never played any of Ryland's previous titles. The (exhaustive) thread posted here was helpful in better understanding how the game works and how someone might play it:

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?667429-Where-I-Play-Total-Extreme-Wrestling-2013& (hxxp://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?667429-Where-I-Play-Total-Extreme-Wrestling-2013&)

It might be a help to someone who is thinking of taking the plunge into TEW. It definitely has me thinking about it.

[dubb93]

Any update on the historical mods?

1994 has issues.

1987 and 2001 are both out and as far as I can tell just as good or better than they were on the last version.

1997 should be out before too long and is expected to be in the same shape as 87/2001 since it's the same guy.

[DaddyTorgo]

Cool - thanks Dubb!

What about 1983/DOTT?

[BYU 14]

Cool - thanks Dubb!

What about 1983/DOTT?

1983 War to settle the score has been released, but is still in beta and there are issues with it as well.

[DaddyTorgo]

Thanks. Then again - 1987 is plenty far back for me I'm sure too.

LOL

[korme]

Thanks, guys. This thread just made me take the plunge.

I haven't watched wrestling in over a decade. Would I have more fun playing a fictional universe, or a 1987/97 mod?

[korme]

When I try to unzip anything into the TEW folder (like the 1997 mod) it says access is denied.

What n00b thing am I doing wrong?

[INDalltheway]

I imagine you need to right-click the file and "run as administrator."

Oh and Shorty - The fictional 'Cornellverse' is amazing. For the hardcore guys that have been around forever it has evolved in front of their eyes. To someone like us it just takes reading bios and some threads over at greydog.

[INDalltheway]

I've been looking into this game having never played any of Ryland's previous titles. The (exhaustive) thread posted here was helpful in better understanding how the game works and how someone might play it:

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?667429-Where-I-Play-Total-Extreme-Wrestling-2013& (hxxp://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?667429-Where-I-Play-Total-Extreme-Wrestling-2013&)

It might be a help to someone who is thinking of taking the plunge into TEW. It definitely has me thinking about it.
Thank you so much for this link. I've been looking for something exactly like this.

[korme]

I imagine you need to right-click the file and "run as administrator."

Oh and Shorty - The fictional 'Cornellverse' is amazing. For the hardcore guys that have been around forever it has evolved in front of their eyes. To someone like us it just takes reading bios and some threads over at greydog.

Got that part, I had to unzip to a random file and then manually move the files over to override as an admin.

However, when I go into the game and "create a database", the database never seems to appear in the file directory, so I can't apply the file I downloaded.

[INDalltheway]

Got that part, I had to unzip to a random file and then manually move the files over to override as an admin.

However, when I go into the game and "create a database", the database never seems to appear in the file directory, so I can't apply the file I downloaded.

So when you go to select the database is isn't showing up in the box by the "Default" database? Just make sure all of the files from the database you downloaded are in a folder in the GDS/TEW2013/Databases folder. From there it should show up and you select the database then begin a new game.

[DaddyTorgo]

My problem with this game has always been (and continues to be) booking shows that get good ratings vs. just booking shows the way I want to book them.

Think that's why I liked TNM, the star-rating was just based on the in-ring action and not the heat or anything.

[Ajaxab]

Thank you so much for this link. I've been looking for something exactly like this.

I'm really impressed by how the guy explains everything from ground zero. He's pretty much convinced me to give the game a shot. Once I get some work projects out of the way, I think I'll take a chance on it.

Does anyone know just how accurate the mods are for obscure promotions? When I was a kid I used to watch Stampede Wrestling out of Calgary and wondered if I could run it with one of the 80s mods.

[korme]

So when you go to select the database is isn't showing up in the box by the "Default" database? Just make sure all of the files from the database you downloaded are in a folder in the GDS/TEW2013/Databases folder. From there it should show up and you select the database then begin a new game.

It seems the database folder through my Windows eyes shows

Default

and nothing else.

In-game, it says I have a Default database and 1987, which I created. However when I go back to the Windows folder, it doesn't show up therefore I cannot move the .mdb file anywhere.

I am looking in the Program Files(x86)/GDS/TEW2013 folder, that is correct, right?

[INDalltheway]

It seems the database folder through my Windows eyes shows

Default

and nothing else.

In-game, it says I have a Default database and 1987, which I created. However when I go back to the Windows folder, it doesn't show up therefore I cannot move the .mdb file anywhere.

I am looking in the Program Files(x86)/GDS/TEW2013/Databases/FolderTitle folder, that is correct, right?

That's the folder you will drop the database files in that you downloaded.

[korme]

Holy shit, that worked. The in-game step-by-step didn't work, but INDalltheway comes through! Thanks dudes.

[Mota]

My problem with this game has always been (and continues to be) booking shows that get good ratings vs. just booking shows the way I want to book them.

Think that's why I liked TNM, the star-rating was just based on the in-ring action and not the heat or anything.

Yeah I wished there was still a kayfabe wrestling game like TNM. I also used to play a Lance Haffner Wrestling game back in the 90's, it was pretty good.

I had a pen and paper game that I developed back in the 80's - 90's and we played over 150 cards full of matches. So much fun, but it was easier to play the matches with TNM and have the same sense of enjoyment.

[DaddyTorgo]

Yeah I wished there was still a kayfabe wrestling game like TNM. I also used to play a Lance Haffner Wrestling game back in the 90's, it was pretty good.

I had a pen and paper game that I developed back in the 80's - 90's and we played over 150 cards full of matches. So much fun, but it was easier to play the matches with TNM and have the same sense of enjoyment.

Yeah - I think that was it. It was just easier to just...book and play matches in TNM and get a bunch of enjoyment out of it rather than the "work" you have to put into TEW.

[korme]

Is there a way to set a booker, and kind of manage behind the scenes?

[INDalltheway]

Holy shit, that worked. The in-game step-by-step didn't work, but INDalltheway comes through! Thanks dudes.
Anything for a fellow PCJBLer :D

[korme]

Sorry for troubling everyone, but is there a way for the profile pictures to automatically sync or do I really have to manually click on every guy's face and find his file?

[INDalltheway]

Sorry for troubling everyone, but is there a way for the profile pictures to automatically sync or do I really have to manually click on every guy's face and find his file?

Go to the Options tab at the top and then on the left hand side click "Picture Folder." From there just make sure the correct database is selected from the drop down menu.

[BYU 14]

Sorry for troubling everyone, but is there a way for the profile pictures to automatically sync or do I really have to manually click on every guy's face and find his file?

Go to the Options tab at the top and then on the left hand side click "Picture Folder." From there just make sure the correct database is selected from the drop down menu.

One other thing too if you are using a new picture folder. Before starting your game, go to the edit the database, select workers and select mass edit, select all the workers and the first drop down box is a picture option that says picture becomes 'their name jpeg' once that is selected it will populate all the workers in your database. After this you will only have to individually edit worker pictures for those with multiple pix if you want to change.

Now start your new game and all wrestlers with a pic should be good.

[korme]

Thats what I should have done before I started my career, thanks BYU

[TLK]

I get sucked in every version but I'm too lazy to book the cards and ultimately end up being disappointed with the game. So, I started a game with the 1987 data and I'm basically just watching the WWF. I know you can't expect much from the booking, but they are making the last days of WCW look like 1996 ECW.

-Hogan beats Orndroff at Wrestlemania III
-Ric Flair signs with WWF and tags with Bob Orton in the main event of SummerSlam against Don Muraco & Harley Race (Both faces)
-The next week, Flair beats Hogan on Superstars in a non-title match. Hogan and Flair start feuding shortly after that.
-WWF decides not to resign Bret Hart, Rowdy Piper, Jake Roberts to name a few.
-Hogan beats Flair at the October PPV
-Randy Savage loses the Intercontinental title to Jim Brunzell who in turn drops it to a heel Jim Powers.
-Hogan still feuding with Flair, but they go about 6 months without a match
-Hogan defeats Savage at the Royal Rumble only for Savage to turn around and win the Rumble in the next match. Okay, that actually sounds good.
-Hogan drops the belt to King Kong Bundy in February. Bundy almost immediately announces he's leaving the WWF and the title is held up.
-At Wrestlemania, Junkyard Dog beats Ric Flair to win the held-up title and Hogan doesn't wrestle.
-Hogan defeats Flair at the next ppv with JYD not on the card.
-And yes, your new IC champion... a face Nikolai Volkoff

If nothing else, it's been entertaining.

[Flasch186]

that sounds fun.

[korme]

I've added a bunch of picture files for my completely fictionally generated league, and yet it seems like the new players that get generated never have ever gotten any of the new faces. I believe I've named the files correctly, EVPW_WhiteMale_113 for example. Anybody know what could be up?

I would take this to the GDS forums but it won't seem to let me post.

[Simbo Klice]

I've added a bunch of picture files for my completely fictionally generated league, and yet it seems like the new players that get generated never have ever gotten any of the new faces. I believe I've named the files correctly, EVPW_WhiteMale_113 for example. Anybody know what could be up?

I would take this to the GDS forums but it won't seem to let me post.

You have to go into the editor and set their availability under "Free Pictures", basically picking their gender and what size/ethnicity they can be used for.

[korme]

The editor before you start a game? I'm not seeing any option for "Free Pictures" in my season editor.

[Simbo Klice]

The editor before you start a game? I'm not seeing any option for "Free Pictures" in my season editor.

Yeah, the database editor. And after you do that, you can import them into your savegame so you don't have to start over.

[korme]

It's pretty irritating how much of a PITA this stuff can be

[IlliniCub]

Out of place a bit I know but I recently started playing TEW 2007 again because I wanted to do Death of the Territories again. However I can not find it anywhere. Does anyone know where I could find DOTT or other TEW 2007 mods? Any help would be appreciated!

[Suicane75]

that sounds fun.

It does? :confused:

[JonInMiddleGA]

Out of place a bit I know but I recently started playing TEW 2007 again because I wanted to do Death of the Territories again. However I can not find it anywhere. Does anyone know where I could find DOTT or other TEW 2007 mods? Any help would be appreciated!

FWIW, I've got a zip file labeled DOTT135Data on my hard drive, 1,027kb
Also have a rar file labeled DOTT_v135 , 807kb

I can't remember if that's everything required or not, but if so I'd be happy to email those to you, just PM me an email addy if you want 'em.

[molson]

I just uploaded a jzip file here. I believe it's all there, just extract it into a new file in your TEW data file and you should be able to switch to it. I think one of my old saved games is in there too, but I don't think that impacts the database itself. If anything looks weird though, I'll try to upload a clean version.

dott.zip :: Free File Hosting - File Dropper: File Host for Mp3, Videos, Music, Documents. (http://www.filedropper.com/dott)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Since my son is pretty much dying to buy this suddenly ... questions:

I've read how people did the multiple user character ("your" character) in order to run mutiple feds in an Alliance & to create a sort of workaround "fed" that served as the national / world titles (like an NWA overall vs NWA-Georgia or NWA-Tri State) ... would that same workaround finally allow us to have complete control of our developmental territories?

Or can you not form child relationships as a human owned company?

[BYU 14]

Since my son is pretty much dying to buy this suddenly ... questions:

I've read how people did the multiple user character ("your" character) in order to run mutiple feds in an Alliance & to create a sort of workaround "fed" that served as the national / world titles (like an NWA overall vs NWA-Georgia or NWA-Tri State) ... would that same workaround finally allow us to have complete control of our developmental territories?

Or can you not form child relationships as a human owned company?

You can actually create a development company for a cost. Make sure you grab the 1983 mod :)

[JonInMiddleGA]

You can actually create a development company for a cost. Make sure you grab the 1983 mod :)

K, we could create a development company that same way back in 2010 but it insisted on running itself independently. Did that change in 2013? If we create it can we now run it directly, hands-on?

[dubb93]

Since my son is pretty much dying to buy this suddenly ... questions:

I've read how people did the multiple user character ("your" character) in order to run mutiple feds in an Alliance & to create a sort of workaround "fed" that served as the national / world titles (like an NWA overall vs NWA-Georgia or NWA-Tri State) ... would that same workaround finally allow us to have complete control of our developmental territories?

Or can you not form child relationships as a human owned company?

I can't answer that question but I will say if you are looking at playing a company that runs story lines and angles and is traditionalist/se and that is how you play the game....the way this game calculates show grades is a complete game changer. That is probably my favorite new "feature" of this version.

If I were taking a shot at your question, I don't think it is possible for a user character to be employed by a child company. You would want to double check that.

[dubb93]

K, we could create a development company that same way back in 2010 but it insisted on running itself independently. Did that change in 2013? If we create it can we now run it directly, hands-on?

No you can not.

[JonInMiddleGA]

No you can not.

And thus ends most of the interest I might have had. That, plus the great attempt-but-not-really Affiliate model, I'll just stick with the 2010 I'm 4-5 (game) years into and be fine.

Key phrase there, mostly likely, is MY interest. The kid is still gung ho to take a full blown crack at it. He's played older versions for several years now, so he's more than ready for it.

[dubb93]

And thus ends most of the interest I might have had. That, plus the great attempt-but-not-really Affiliate model, I'll just stick with the 2010 I'm 4-5 (game) years into and be fine.

Key phrase there, mostly likely, is MY interest. The kid is still gung ho to take a full blown crack at it. He's played older versions for several years now, so he's more than ready for it.

I think it is the biggest upgrade since EWR to TEW fwiw and I felt like the upgrade to 2010 was a waste of money (even if I did buy it like 3 times).

The way the show ratings are calculated make it impossible for me to go back.

Old way: Match Rating Portion = % of card matches (70% ME, 20% Co ME, 10% rest of card) Angle Portion = % of card angles (total average of all angles).

New way: Match portion is the same. Angle portion = % of card angles (70% top rated angle, 20% 2nd highest angle, 10% everything else).

Means you can now heavily include mid card angles on A shows with basically no penalty. You can also simulate Feds with really popular/entertaining guys who can't wrestle by putting them in 2 highly rated angles per show and cranking up the angle %. Best change the series has made in quite some time IMO.

[dubb93]

Guys don't take huge popularity losses if they don't take the pinfall in tag/multiman matches anymore either. Which is extremely nice as well. Those are the big two for me. The other changes are nice but those are two I've been waiting a long time to see.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Guys don't take huge popularity losses if they don't take the pinfall in tag/multiman matches anymore either. Which is extremely nice as well. Those are the big two for me. The other changes are nice but those are two I've been waiting a long time to see.

I went through the change list pretty extensively, there were a few little things I did like. For example tag team experience now counts when that team is part of a larger tag match (say a 3v3 or 4v4).

Aside from the ratings calculation change -- which I agree is extremely significant -- so many of the changes really seemed to go toward helping either mod makers (which I'm not one of, I just play 'em) and things like regens which I've even gotten to (hell, it's taken me how long to just book 500 shows and play out 3-4 years in game?) that I just don't feel compelled to walk away from the '10 game I'm so deep into.

I've had more fun playing basically as Scrooge McDuck in a nearly sandbox universe (main roster over 100 guys, nearly that many more across 2 developmentals) than I've ever had with the series to date.

If the kid buys it I might tinker around with another fed when his laptop is idle just to see the new mechanics in action but, dammit, I would like to actually finally kill off WWE once & for all before leaving that '10 universe :)

[dubb93]

I wouldn't want to give up that long of a save either. I lost my last long save to a hard drive crash (lost my SSD :() and I'm currently over a year into my current game. That being said, don't underestimate the profound effect of the change to the show rating. Biggest change for me since ERW -> TEW. Been calling for something like this since the TEW series came into existence.

I did go back to EW 9000 a while ago for a month or so. That was the game that started it all for me. Was interesting to go back to it. The roster made me feel old, but not as old as a Mick Foley interview where he mentions how long ago hell in a cell took place.

Completely off topic, I met him last year for the first time while he was on his comedy tour. He's basically the nicest celebrity I have ever had the pleasure of personally interacting with. He offered a picture which I declined. What the hell would I do with a picture? It was worth it for the handshake and the 2 minutes of conversation.

[INDalltheway]

TEW 2016 announced for a Q2 release! (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/home.php) I'm looking forward to seeing what additions are going to be coming.