NFL week 15 thread

[Desnudo]

Lots of interesting games this weekend

[mckerney]

So it turns out Adrian Peterson is pretty good.

[Jas_lov]

Adrian Peterson is not human. Rodgers has had chances vs the Bears defense and has missed. Would be nice if GB defense could tackle and Crosby should be put out to pasture.

[Desnudo]

Texans smushing Luck pretty good. Can't stop the run though.

[Alan T]

Go Falcons!

[Vince, Pt. II]

At what point do discussions about Adrian Peterson being in the "best of all time" category begin? Dude is incredible.

[Thomkal]

Rams shame on you-you realize that's Christian Ponder that's stomping your team right?

[mckerney]

Why are the Vikings passing? Only bad thing that let the Rams back in the game can happen from pass plays.

[mckerney]

Rams shame on you-you realize that's Christian Ponder that's stomping your team right?

It's AP and the defense stomping them, Ponder isn't doing shit besides turning TD chances into FGs and nearly getting receivers killed.

[RainMaker]

Cutler still sucks.

[MIJB#19]

By my math, Houston, Baltimore and Green Bay can all win their divisions today with a simple win. San Francisco also needs a Seattle loss to secure the division title. Atlanta is in position to lock up a bye, potentially home field advantage if both Green Bay and San Francisco lose.

[mauchow]

Packers and Houston will be the only ones to wrap up their divisions today.

[Alan T]

Falcons look like a different team from last week. I learned decades ago though not to be too optimistic about this team in the playoffs.

[stevew]

Some records that might be broken

Sacks-Strahan, 22.5

JJ Watt has 18.5 sacks
Aldon Smith has 19.5

Rushing Yards-

Dickerson-2105yards

Peterson-1712 with 2.5 games lef.

[Jas_lov]

Rodgers and Jones have taken over the game. One more LOL Cutler INT and this one will be over. These teams like Chicago and Baltimore have to realize that you can have as many different O-Coordinators as you want, it's all about QB play and that's why they'll never win a Superbowl with their current QB situation.

[Grover]

lol Ravens.

[mckerney]

My god Ponder is awful, why are the Vikings trying to have him pass rather than just feeding AP for the record?

[cuervo72]

Dear Browns,

The Redskins SEEM TO LIKE ROLLING COUSINS OUT MAYBE YOU SHOULD EXPECT IT.

Signed,
Everyone With Eyes

[Jas_lov]

What are you doing, McCarthy? The Bears are only in this because of Crosby and Grant, two guys who shouldn't be playing football anymore. Jesus.

[ISiddiqui]

Falcons look like a different team from last week. I learned decades ago though not to be too optimistic about this team in the playoffs.

Seriously. Two completely different teams in one week.

[Jas_lov]

McCarthy confirmed idiot. Up by 11 in the 4th quarter he's running trick plays on special teams.

[Desnudo]

Houston Indy game shaping up to be yet another 4th quarter test for luck

[mckerney]

Keep feeding AP, no more passing...

[Desnudo]

I don't care if it is 4th and 20 you have to go for it down two scores with 5 minutes left

[fpres]

Some records that might be broken

Sacks-Strahan, 22.5

JJ Watt has 18.5 sacks
Aldon Smith has 19.5

Rushing Yards-

Dickerson-2105yards

Peterson-1712 with 2.5 games lef.


Watt has been huge today with 3 sacks and 6 tackles for loss so far.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Falcons look like a different team from last week. I learned decades ago though not to be too optimistic about this team in the playoffs.

I believe a rematch of this game is a distinct possibility for the Falcons 1st playoff game. I'd expect the outcome to bear no resemblance to today's game.
It's the Falcons.

[stevew]

Watt has been huge today with 3 sacks and 6 tackles for loss so far.

Yeah, 19.5 sacks out of a 3/4 DE is like Bruce Smith-esque(and he probably never had that many)

[Thomkal]

wow why are HOU/IND playing so late in the season-this week and last week of the season-that's pretty silly.

[Matthean]

If Washington and NY are tied, who wins the division?

[Thomkal]

I apologize on behalf of my fellow Cardinals fans for the offensive debacle you are about to see. Kevin Kolb got moved to the regular IR, so its apparently the rookie for the rest of the season.

[Desnudo]

Washington better div record

[Radii]

Washington better div record

If they both win out, yes. Washington's final two games are both against division opponents, only one of the Giants games is against a division opponent, so they could both finish 9-7 with the same division record if it plays out just right. Next tiebreaker is record vs common opponents, not sure how that one goes.

[Matthean]

Washington better div record

So the Giants might not even make the playoffs if they win their last two and can essentially be out if they lose at Baltimore next week.

[cuervo72]

CBS studio crew is just awful. In thirty seconds Marino referred to RGIII as "RG Griffin the Third" and "RJ3".

[Jas_lov]

Packers clinch another division title but made it much harder than it had to be thanks to the triumvirate of McCarthy, Crosby and Ryan Grant. They won't be as fortunate in the playoffs to go up against teams as inept offensively as the Bears. Hopefully NE can win tonight giving the Packers a good chance at #2 seed. If NYG doesn't make the playoffs that eliminates their biggest competition.

[larrymcg421]

Yeah, there's no scenario for NYG to win a tiebreaker against WAS. They will be behind in division record in any combination of games where they end up tied.

It gets more complicated if there's a three way tie with Dallas. The first tiebreaker is combined games among the three teams.

Right now:

Dallas: 1-2
Giants: 2-2
Washington: 2-1

If Washington beats Dallas in week 17 then they will win the three way tiebreaker as well. If Dallas beats Washington, but loses week 16, while Washington wins week 16 and Giants split their final two, then it goes to 2nd tiebreaker and Giants are eliminated by division record. Then it reverts to the two team tiebreaker between Dallas and Washington and goes to team with best record in common games, which I'm too lazy to look up.

[Jas_lov]

NYG have 3 division losses, Washington only has 1 so there's really no way for NYG to win the tiebreaker. Redskins would need to lose their last two and go 8-8. If that's the case then NYG would need to split their last two and go 9-7 to beat Washington outright. If NYG also lost their last 2 and went 8-8 then that would mean they lost to Philly giving them their 4th division loss.

[mckerney]

Some records that might be broken

Sacks-Strahan, 22.5

JJ Watt has 18.5 sacks
Aldon Smith has 19.5

Rushing Yards-

Dickerson-2105yards

Peterson-1712 with 2.5 games lef.

Peterson finished with 1812 yards, he needs to average 147 in the last two games to pass Dickerson.

[tucker rocky]

CBS studio crew is just awful. In thirty seconds Marino referred to RGIII as "RG Griffin the Third" and "RJ3".

I was waiting for Marino to also refer to him as R2D2. :lol:

[Lathum]

How pissed are newtons fantasy owners that they are obviously trying to get Tolbert goal line touches against his old team.

[JPhillips]

Josh Brent on the Cowboys sidelines is revolting.

[cuervo72]

I was waiting for Marino to also refer to him as R2D2. :lol:

Heh, I'd thought C-3PO to myself. :)

[Jas_lov]

2012 NFL Playoff Machine - Simulate Matchups and Scenarios - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine)

You can run playoff scenarios through this simulator. Giants probably have a better chance at the wildcard at this point, with Chicago losing today. Looks like they can win conference tiebreakers vs Chicago and Seattle.

[BillJasper]

The Chargers really are terrible...

[BillJasper]

Josh Brent on the Cowboys sidelines is revolting.

Agreed.

[Desnudo]

2012 NFL Playoff Machine - Simulate Matchups and Scenarios - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine)

You can run playoff scenarios through this simulator. Giants probably have a better chance at the wildcard at this point, with Chicago losing today. Looks like they can win conference tiebreakers vs Chicago and Seattle.

Seattle is almost definitely going at least 10-6. I think it'll be a however many dog fight for the last spot at 9-7

[cougarfreak]

Josh Brent on the Cowboys sidelines is revolting.

I was going to comment on that as well. That's ridiculous with all the bullshit rules this league has, a drunk driving killer is allowed on the sidelines 10 days after he killed someone?

[BishopMVP]

Adrian Peterson is not human.Kind of funny that the two best "Comeback" seasons of all time happen the same year.

Btw, not worth getting into the argument, but games like today are why people have so much trouble buying into Eli being an "elite" QB. Just so schizophrenic.

PS - Brady has a 104-20 TD/INT ratio over the last 3 years - I just feel like that needs pointing out. ;) Can't wait to see him match-up against SF's defense.

[tucker rocky]

Arizona scored a TD.

[larrymcg421]

2012 NFL Playoff Machine - Simulate Matchups and Scenarios - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine)

You can run playoff scenarios through this simulator. Giants probably have a better chance at the wildcard at this point, with Chicago losing today. Looks like they can win conference tiebreakers vs Chicago and Seattle.

Looks like Dallas has the common games tiebreaker. It has them winning the division in a three way 9-7 tie if they lose in week 16 but beat
the Skins in week 17.

[Thomkal]

Arizona scored a TD.

The world really is coming to an end then.

[MIJB#19]

At 10-6 the Dallas-Washington winner will be ahead of NYGiants.

At 9-7 If Dallas beats Washington, Dallas is ahead on common games*. If Washington beats Dallas, Washington is ahead on division record. NYGiants will be behind the others no matter what happens from here on.

* Common games tie-breaker for the NFC East teams is all results minus the games vs NFC North and NFC West opponents. Dallas has that one locked up (Chi L, Sea L), 1 game better than Washington (Min W, StL L) and 2 better than NYGiants (GB W, SF W), if tied in total W/L after 16 games.

[Jas_lov]

Seattle is almost definitely going at least 10-6. I think it'll be a however many dog fight for the last spot at 9-7

Yeah, looks like they'll score another 50+ today, lol. What the Bears have going for them is games at Arizona and at Detroit, two they can still win even with their struggles against better teams. If they go 10-6 it puts the pressure on the other 8-6 teams to win out. Giants have to play Baltimore, Dallas and Washington play each other, and the Vikings have to play at Houston and home vs GB. Chicago still has a good shot at #6 seed.

[tucker rocky]

Matt Flynn might get some more reps this week, as Seattle continues its dominance against bad teams.

[BishopMVP]

Also, I believe the Patriots set a post-merger NFL record for points in consecutive games with 108 a couple weeks ago. After last week's 58-0 shellacking and this week's fast start Seattle is at 89 mid 2nd-quarter vs. the Bills. I know Football Outsiders' metrics have loved them all year, but I didn't buy them being quite this good.

[whomario]

Russel Wilson with 3 rushing TDs in the first half after not getting one all year.
I know people for some reason felt a need to harp on him but the last couple weeks he´s doing absolutely everything that was asked of him.

[Matthean]

I apologize on behalf of my fellow Cardinals fans for the offensive debacle you are about to see. Kevin Kolb got moved to the regular IR, so its apparently the rookie for the rest of the season.

However, the Lions are involved.

[RedKingGold]

Seahawks are peaking too soon!

(At least that's what I'm telling myself as a 49ers fan).

[Jas_lov]

Kind of funny that the two best "Comeback" seasons of all time happen the same year.


Are those two the frontrunners for MVP with Brady and Rodgers 3 and 4? I think if the Vikings make the playoffs and AP breaks the rushing record he'll win the MVP. They have no passing game. ROY is also very interesting as it's looking like Luck, RG3 and Wilson might make the playoffs.

[Desnudo]

Also, I believe the Patriots set a post-merger NFL record for points in consecutive games with 108 a couple weeks ago. After last week's 58-0 shellacking and this week's fast start Seattle is at 89 mid 2nd-quarter vs. the Bills. I know Football Outsiders' metrics have loved them all year, but I didn't buy them being quite this good.

Wilson would be either one or two (rg3 being the other) rookie of the year if he played in a major market. They have one of the best strength of victory records. If they get some home field games they could easily go to the SB.

[tucker rocky]

I see NE scheduled a practice game next week. :lol:

[Matthean]

ROY is also very interesting as it's looking like Luck, RG3 and Wilson might make the playoffs.

If Indy makes it and they should, Luck wins it. Cousins filled in for RGIII. Seattle has Flynn. Luck has to perform for Indy to do anything. Luck also led his team to a likely +8 change in wins vs. maybe +5 for RGIII one of which he didn't play, and +4 at most for Wilson. Indy has the 8th most passing yards. Washington is 21st. Seattle is 29th. Washington is #1 in rushing. Seattle is #4. Indy is #22.

[Thomkal]

Well Detroit that was a pretty pathetic first half against the worst offensive in football.

[stevew]

That was amazing


Big Ben

[Matthean]

If the Lions do lose this game, somebody seriously does need to be fired. Stafford is 9-22 with two INTs. In other words, the Cards have more points than Stafford's QBR.

[BishopMVP]

Are those two the frontrunners for MVP with Brady and Rodgers 3 and 4? I think if the Vikings make the playoffs and AP breaks the rushing record he'll win the MVP. They have no passing game. ROY is also very interesting as it's looking like Luck, RG3 and Wilson might make the playoffs.I think Brady is right there 1A/B/C. 10 picks for Manning vs. 4 for Brady. We'll see - all 3 have major storylines to play out in the next 2-3 weeks. AP needs the Vikings to make the playoffs (and probably needs to break Dickerson's record to have a chance), Manning and Brady are fighting for at least a bye if not homefield - if Brady looks as good vs. SF's defense as he did in last week's primetime showdown vs. Houston I think he's the frontrunner. He's also been doing it without either Hernandez or Gronkowski almost all season.

[Jas_lov]

If Indy makes it and they should, Luck wins it. Cousins filled in for RGIII. Seattle has Flynn. Luck has to perform for Indy to do anything. Luck also led his team to a likely +8 change in wins vs. maybe +5 for RGIII one of which he didn't play, and +4 at most for Wilson. Indy has the 8th most passing yards. Washington is 21st. Seattle is 29th. Washington is #1 in rushing. Seattle is #4. Indy is #22.

Yeah, but the other two are also putting up pretty good numbers and not turning it over as much. Luck has more passing yards but RG3 has 500 more rushing yards. Is Indy's possible +8 in wins all due to Luck? If the Colts had just an average QB last year they probably don't lose 14 games. I think all 3 have a good case as I'm not sure any of them were expected to win 10 games and they all might.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Well Detroit that was a pretty pathetic first half against the worst offensive in football.

The defense gave up 2 sub-10 yard drives off turnovers and Stafford threw a pick six. The worst offense in football wasn't asked to do all that much in that half.

[Matthean]

The defense gave up 2 sub-10 yard drives off turnovers and Stafford threw a pick six. The worst offense in football wasn't asked to do all that much in that half.

And yet it succeeded.

[stevew]

the Steelers cannot keep playing 8 yards off the Cowboys receivers.

[mckerney]

http://i.imgur.com/gr7mr.jpg

[frnk55]

Now that was a hell of a bomb.

[kingfc22]

Pete Carroll calls a fake punt up 47-17...

[Buccaneer]

http://i.imgur.com/gr7mr.jpg

Perhaps this will be the very last we'll see of him?

[Matthean]

Pete Carroll calls a fake punt up 47-17...

A 49ers/Seahawks playoff game needs to happen.

[rowech]

Coaches who pass on 3rd and 1 should be fired.

[rowech]

I guess it wasn't really a pass. I should say any coach who doesn't run a rb into the line on 3rd and 1 should be fired.

[Matthean]

Stafford has scored more points for Arizona than his own team.

[stevew]

Fuckin A...we just blew a chance to put Dallas in the ground.

[jbergey22]

At what point do discussions about Adrian Peterson being in the "best of all time" category begin? Dude is incredible.

I think they began his rookie year;)

His fumbles were his only weakness but he took care of that last season. And atleast I dont have to hear people(like Skip Bayless) trying to claim Chris Johnson as being the best in the league anymore. That just made me sick.

[BishopMVP]

I guess it wasn't really a pass. I should say any coach who doesn't run a rb into the line on 3rd and 1 should be fired.Bo? Woody?

[Buccaneer]

Ugh. No QB who goes 14 for 21, 104 yds and 1 int should deserve to win in a rout.

[Desnudo]

Yeah, but the other two are also putting up pretty good numbers and not turning it over as much. Luck has more passing yards but RG3 has 500 more rushing yards. Is Indy's possible +8 in wins all due to Luck? If the Colts had just an average QB last year they probably don't lose 14 games. I think all 3 have a good case as I'm not sure any of them were expected to win 10 games and they all might.

+luck is near top in INTs and Indy has barely won games on weak sister schedule while Seattle has far harder. Indy's point differential indicates more like a 5-9 team which means they've been lucky in a lot of close games.

[Matthean]

Stafford is the new Rivers or Romo. A highly talented QB you would never want if something was on the line.

[stevew]

Antonio Brown is giving dallas this game

[larrymcg421]

On 3rd and 4, Cowboys should've run it. That way they could've gone for it on 4th down without worrying about giving the ball back to Pitt with too much time on the clock.

[stevew]

Outcoached back to back by Norv and Garrett

[Buccaneer]

Following on GameCenter, I got confused when I read Romo taking a knee first and goal. Then I remembered that Pittsburgh already had the ball.

My son is excited since that likely knocks the Giants down to 3rd place but I'm disappointed since that brings the Jets back into play. :(

[tucker rocky]

Outcoached back to back by Norv and Garrett

They way SD played today, that loss last week seems unreal.

[Matthean]

If the Colts had just an average QB last year they probably don't lose 14 games.

Let's not forget the stable of QBs Seattle and Washington had. Both teams brought in two new QBs.

+luck is near top in INTs and Indy has barely won games on weak sister schedule while Seattle has far harder. Indy's point differential indicates more like a 5-9 team which means they've been lucky in a lot of close games.

Luck also throws a lot more passes so teams expect the pass much more. Luck isn't as gifted as a runner so it is one less thing to worry about. Washington still scored 38 points with their backup rookie QB. Sure, Seattle is putting up a stupid amount of points against bad teams, but it kind of helps having a coach run fake punts when you are up 30. For how good Seattle is suppose to be, there are bad loses in there with the good wins. I just think Luck has brought his team further along than the other two have. Some of that so called luck in close games is due to, you know, Luck. :D

[Desnudo]

Let's not forget the stable of QBs Seattle and Washington had. Both teams brought in two new QBs.



Luck also throws a lot more passes so teams expect the pass much more. Luck isn't as gifted as a runner so it is one less thing to worry about. Washington still scored 38 points with their backup rookie QB. Sure, Seattle is putting up a stupid amount of points against bad teams, but it kind of helps having a coach run fake punts when you are up 30. For how good Seattle is suppose to be, there are bad loses in there with the good wins. I just think Luck has brought his team further along than the other two have. Some of that so called luck in close games is due to, you know, Luck. :D

You know, people seem to have this position on Luck and no amount of evidence can move them off it. They've been incredibly lucky in close games which is something that is variable year to year. It will be interesting to see if they return to expectations next year.

[tucker rocky]

After that performance of the national anthem, I have an urge for some opera listening. :)

[kingfc22]

Niners defense better being their A game today. Need to get pressure on Brady all night.

[Desnudo]

How long is the president supposed to be talking...

[kingfc22]

How long is the president supposed to be talking...

Not sure but it appears the Niners went straight down the field through the air!

[Desnudo]

yes, I'm glad I missed the action. Sounds like the bad old Patriots pass d is back.

[jeff061]

I don't want to seem heartless(but I will), I'm sure the speech is on every channel on TV. Show the game.

I'm watching on the web now and was lucky enough to see Moss torch the Pats.

[Jas_lov]

The game is on CNBC and NBC Sports Network until Obama's speech is over.

[jeff061]

yes, I'm glad I missed the action. Sounds like the bad old Patriots pass d is back.

Eh, forty niners made some nice plays. Pats didn't look great, but not as bad as they did weekly early in the season.

[Desnudo]

game here

stadium-live (http://www.stadium-live.com/Channel7.html)

[Desnudo]

The game is on CNBC and NBC Sports Network until Obama's speech is over.

Thank you.

[Desnudo]

this game is over before it began

[DaddyTorgo]

Ugh - what a dildo Brady.

[DaddyTorgo]

this game is over before it began

I fear you very well might be right.

[jeff061]

Haha, you guys are spoiled.

[Desnudo]

very. I like my glass half empty!

Looked like 3 steps and football move

[Desnudo]

Ugh - what a dildo Brady.

Looked like Welker held up his run just bit, enough to intercept

[kingfc22]

F'n Delanie Walker...he's been killing the Niners

[tucker rocky]

Speech over, game back on regular channel.

[tucker rocky]

Caught the Pats napping.
49ers can also run a fake punt.

[kingfc22]

Great call with the fake

[Desnudo]

If this was the bud bowl, SF is bringing the kitchen sink

[tucker rocky]

Great call with the fake

Harbaugh must've seen the Seattle game.

[cuervo72]

Ah, Akers....

[kingfc22]

Akers is going to cost them in the playoffs. Guaranteed.

[Jas_lov]

Maybe the Packers and 9ers can trade kickers. McCarthy came out after the game today and said Crosby is still our guy. Don't know how many kicks he has to miss to at least sign someone else and see if he can hit 75%.

[jeff061]

What a nutty game.

I did like that fake call, even if it got stuffed. I love Harbaugh.

But.... I hope the Pats hang up 35 unanswered on them :D.

[Desnudo]

Pats D playing well, out there too long though

[cuervo72]

49ers should be up by so much in this game.

[tucker rocky]

This game shall be decided by a turnover.

[kingfc22]

Niners need to start capitalizing on what the defense is doing so far.

[kingfc22]

Kaep needs to put a glove on!

[Vince, Pt. II]

Damn it.

[kingfc22]

Still don't like that PI can account for 35 yards regardless if the call is correct and favors my team.

[Lathum]

Niners- Seahawks is going to be an awesome game. Factor in Xmas eve is the next day and a lot of people willing to stay up late it could be the coming out for Wilson and the hawks.

[cuervo72]

Eh, he missed the ball completely.

[Desnudo]

if it was holding on the kicking team, what difference does it make?

[jeff061]

Belichick has done a lot of dumb challenges this year.

[dubb93]

Illegal touching by downing a punt?

[kingfc22]

I'm confused. Why would it be illegal touching on NE if Ginn missed it which it seems he did in fact not touch the ball? Wouldn't they simply be downing the ball at that point?

[tucker rocky]

Oh lawds! I'm so confused now Hochuli !

[jeff061]

I have no idea what's going on. I just know that NE is not getting the ball back except maybe to re-punt it.

[Jas_lov]

Who illegally touched the ball?

[cuervo72]

.

[kingfc22]

And these guys are the "good" officials? WTF

[Crapshoot]

The 49ers should be up by 20. This might come back to bite them.

[tucker rocky]

...and after what seems like a half-hour, a play is run.

[jeff061]

And these guys are the "good" officials? WTF

Well this doesn't happen 5 times a game any more. So yes.

[Desnudo]

I actually think the decision was correct but it took 10 times too long to get there

[jbergey22]

And these guys are the "good" officials? WTF

This crew stinks. Weren't they the crew that screwed up the Lions Thanksgiving day game? Certain head refs like tonight's I just get a bad feeling about.

[tucker rocky]

I actually think the decision was correct but it took 10 times too long to get there

I was waiting for Hochuli's closing argument.

[tucker rocky]

Maybe punt returners should start wearing those lights and buzzers garb, like they do in that sport of fencing.

[Desnudo]

This feels like watching the giants play the patriots

[kingfc22]

Kaep definitely needs to work on the touch pass.

[Desnudo]

Huge difference between 17-3 and 21-3

[kingfc22]

Huge difference between 17-3 and 21-3

Yes. Niners need a TD here

[Desnudo]

Yes. Niners need a TD here

Depends on your perspective :)

[Desnudo]

Wilfork king of the butt tackle

Patriots are playing fucking horrible

[DaddyTorgo]

Wilfork king of the butt tackle

Patriots are playing fucking horrible

Yep. I was going to say - if they don't score the next points of the game I'm turning it off and I'll watch my DVR'd episodes of Dexter and Homeland and play some FIFA.

McCourty kept me watching at the last second I guess. At least for a lil longer.

[Desnudo]

Ridley needs to take a seat

That said 49ers have been more lucky on the recovered fumbles front

[DaddyTorgo]

Fucking Ridley. Hold onto the motherfucking ball. He's fucking killing them - although to be fair the rest of the team is playing like dogshit too.

Ballgame. Time for me to find something else to do.

[tucker rocky]

49ers executed that play to perfection.

[DaddyTorgo]

Trying to think positively - it's good for the Pats to have a humbling loss like this later in the season. It forces them to refocus.

Sure...that's what I'll tell myself.

[RedKingGold]

With all these fumbles, hard to regard this game as anything but a fluke.

[tucker rocky]

Any weather predictions for next week in Seattle?
SF seems to thrive in bad weather.

[Desnudo]

49ers are doing to Patriots what the Giants are so good at doing. Bounces have gone their way, but they'd be winning anyway.

[tucker rocky]

Trying to think positively - it's good for the Pats to have a humbling loss like this later in the season. It forces them to refocus.

Sure...that's what I'll tell myself.

With a loss like this, the wrath and anger gets taken out on their next opponent.

[Desnudo]

Can't defend that hit collngsworth

[Desnudo]

Why didn't it just bounce into the fucking end zone unbelievable

[kcchief19]

That Gore fumble recovery run for TD is going to be a fantasy football scoring nightmare in the playoffs.

Since it was a fumble, it is not rushing yards nor a rushing TD. It is an offensive fumble recovery TD, so it doesn't count as a defensive score either. In the ESPN leagues I'm in, it currently counts as nothing.

I'm in a league on MyFantasyFootball.com, and it actually accounts for offensive fumble recovery TDs and awards the points to the offensive player, but not the recovery yards.

Weird play. Even more weird than Aldon Smith picking off a pass.

[tucker rocky]

NE baking up all kinds of fresh turnovers.

[RedKingGold]

Cannot wait for my Kaepernick jersey this Christmas (yes, I am an adult).

[kingfc22]

BEATDOWN!!!

[Julio Riddols]

Wow, young QB's are taking over. And this game is going the opposite of how I expected it to.

[Jas_lov]

Damn, guess we'll need Seattle to beat SF next week for GB to get the 1st round bye. NE didn't even show up tonight, probably costing themselves the 1st round bye as Denver closes at home vs Cleveland and KC.

[Desnudo]

Trying to think positively - it's good for the Pats to have a humbling loss like this later in the season. It forces them to refocus.

Sure...that's what I'll tell myself.

If you want half full texans were probably taking the 1 seed anyway. Gronk would have been huge in this type of game. Terrible luck on the bounces. Mallet gets some development time.

[DaddyTorgo]

49ers are doing to Patriots what the Giants are so good at doing. Bounces have gone their way, but they'd be winning anyway.

This. Their defense is damn good. Credit to them.

Not a believer in Kapernick, but credit to their defense.

[Desnudo]

49ers must be playing prevent

[SackAttack]

The ball can cross the plane after the knee is down and that's a touchdown? Really?

[Desnudo]

A pick 6 would change everything come on kapernackle!

[RedKingGold]

A lot of time left to play

[cuervo72]

That little hair thing on Woodhead's chin annoys the shit out of me.

[Desnudo]

A lot of time left to play

This is the false hope phase don't worry. Arrington will get flagged for a 60 yard PI at the 1 yard line

[RedKingGold]

49ers are so good at goal-line defense.

[Danny]

This years NFL MVP should be JJ Watt

[kingfc22]

15 long minutes left...

[Desnudo]

Goddamn he scares the hell out of me everytime

[Desnudo]

Wow that looked like PI

[Glengoyne]

Wow that looked like PI

Just as much as on the flea flicker.

I think both good no calls.

[Desnudo]

Yes, if Brady throws it closer to Welker it is PI

[Scoobz0202]

Just got off work. I can't believe the Cowboys are tied for first. This team doesn't deserve first. I mean, I'll take it.

But I fully expect them to be beat down by the Saints next week.

[cuervo72]

Dammit, knew I should have predicted the comeback at 31-3. :)

[DaddyTorgo]

Don't look now, but it's a 1-score game with 12 minutes left and the Pats offense has finally come alive (while SF has gone silent).

[Eaglesfan27]

Yep. I was going to say - if they don't score the next points of the game I'm turning it off and I'll watch my DVR'd episodes of Dexter and Homeland and play some FIFA.

McCourty kept me watching at the last second I guess. At least for a lil longer.

Might want to keep watching. ;-)

[stevew]

Megatron is less than 200 yards from breaking Rice's record.

[RedKingGold]

Don't look now, but it's a 1-score game with 12 minutes left and the Pats offense has finally come alive (while SF has gone silent).

I thought you left the game to go masturbate, or something.

[tucker rocky]

Fucking Ridley. Hold onto the motherfucking ball. He's fucking killing them - although to be fair the rest of the team is playing like dogshit too.

Ballgame. Time for me to find something else to do.

Trying to think positively - it's good for the Pats to have a humbling loss like this later in the season. It forces them to refocus.

Sure...that's what I'll tell myself.

Game just got interesting.

[DaddyTorgo]

Might want to keep watching. ;-)

I actually just muted it and started watching Dexter on my iPad in front of the TV, so I've noticed that yes...it just might end up being a ballgame again.

[Desnudo]

Ba bam!

[Buccaneer]

Dammit, knew I should have predicted the comeback at 31-3. :)

I texted my son when it was 31-10 that the final score will be 34-31 Patriots. ;)

[Desnudo]

Beware Arrington PI

[kingfc22]

Difference right now is:
1st half 49ers chances = Too many blanks
2nd half Pats chances = All TD's

[tucker rocky]

So who thinks Denver has the least questionables heading to the playoffs in a few weeks?

[Desnudo]

Lb on Welker?

[DaddyTorgo]

53yd pass from Brady to Lloyd - Pats 1st and 10 at the SF 29 with 8:40 to go

[Julio Riddols]

I think this one is over. Brady is in one of those bad moods he gets in. They might put up 50.

[DaddyTorgo]

I think this one is over. Brady is in one of those bad moods he gets in. They might put up 50.

Maybe the baby kept him up last night and that's why they weren't sharp in the first half??

[tucker rocky]

SF defense has shat the bed.

[kingfc22]

Geez. Talk about a tale of two halves.

[DaddyTorgo]

Seriously. Wow.

[Crapshoot]

Wait DT still watching? I thought you left in outrage as you do every time they're trailing :D

[jeff061]

Brady hasn't had a drive like that when the pressure's on in a long time.

[tucker rocky]

28 unanswered so far....

[DaddyTorgo]

Wait DT still watching? I thought you left in outrage as you do every time they're trailing :D

I muted it and I was watching Dexter on my ipad while it played on the TV, so I saw the scores, and turned it back on fully for this last drive.

[Desnudo]

Will be interesting to see how kapernick responds

[kingfc22]

I think he was out of bounds about 30 yards back...

[DaddyTorgo]

LOL - well that was pathetic.

[kingfc22]

HELL YES!!!

[JAG]

What a fun half this has been.

[Desnudo]

Fucking Arrington

[Julio Riddols]

Oh shit, the guy the Bengals should have drafted!

[RedKingGold]

Fuck yeah James and Crabtree!

[Galaril]

So who thinks Denver has the least questionables heading to the playoffs in a few weeks?

Yes, I think they can play anyone anywhere right now and look to get Willis McGahee back for the playoffs if they even need him.

[Glengoyne]

Will be interesting to see how kapernick responds

Well that didn't take long.

[tucker rocky]

...until NE special teams shats....giving SF TD on next play.

[Matthean]

So who thinks Denver has the least questionables heading to the playoffs in a few weeks?

Biggest wins have been Pitt and Baltimore, so they haven't exactly beaten anybody top tier yet. All three loses came against NE, Houston, and Atlanta. If NE wins tonight and their last two games, Denver is a #3 seed.

[kingfc22]

Hopefully this knocks the fog off the defense.

[Desnudo]

Arrington still on the team is baffling

[Danny]

Biggest wins have been Pitt and Baltimore, so they haven't exactly beaten anybody top tier yet. All three loses came against NE, Houston, and Atlanta. If NE wins tonight and their last two games, Denver is a #3 seed.

And all those losses came early in the season. They mean little now

[Desnudo]

Well that penalty was obvious

[DaddyTorgo]

Ugh

[kingfc22]

Pass rush finally gets home on back to back plays!

[RedKingGold]

49ers finally getting pressure on Brady.

[Desnudo]

Fucking horseshoe up ginns ass tonigh

[DaddyTorgo]

Fucking horseshoe up ginns ass tonigh

Especially compared to the lack of horseshoes on the Pats side.

That being said, credit to the SF defense though.

[kingfc22]

Well it is only fitting that this comes down to Brady vs. the Niners D

[Desnudo]

I obviously hope the patriots win but this has been the best game of the season either way

[Desnudo]

Welker not a great punt returner for whatever reason

[Matthean]

And all those losses came early in the season. They mean little now

Outside of Baltimore, the last time Denver played a team with a winning record was week 9 against the Bengals. Before that it was NE.

[DaddyTorgo]

Ugh. Damn Woody.

I go for it on 4th and 2. You gotta do it.

[DaddyTorgo]

ballgame. blah

[kingfc22]

YES!

[RedKingGold]

YES!

[RedKingGold]

lol

[Desnudo]

Bad call good risk

[DaddyTorgo]

Bad game by the Pats. Played like crap for the entire first half and put themselves wayyyy behind the 8-ball.

[kingfc22]

Smart play by James do go down in bounds.

[kingfc22]

Bad game by the Pats. Played like crap for the entire first half and put themselves wayyyy behind the 8-ball.

I'm pretty sure it has more to do with them being outplayed in the first half...

Just like they outplayed the Niners in the second half minus the James KR and Crabtree catch and run.

[Desnudo]

I don't know what you take away from this game other than it would be a pretty awesome SB matchup

[kingfc22]

Best thing about tonight's win is that no matter what happens next week, the Niners simply have to beat ARZ at home in week 17 to win the division.

[Desnudo]

Hernandez has been aggravating at times tonight

[RedKingGold]

Best thing about tonight's win is that no matter what happens next week, the Niners simply have to beat ARZ at home in week 17 to win the division.

Nothing simple in the division, home slice. I'm sure we also circled wins over both Rams games this season.

[Desnudo]

Not a gimme would get more yards

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm pretty sure it has more to do with them being outplayed in the first half...

Just like they outplayed the Niners in the second half minus the James KR and Crabtree catch and run.

Niners defense played well the first half, I already said that. Pats also played incredibly bad in the first half too though. I'd argue that the Pats played worse then the Niners played great (especially looking at the 3 uncharacteristic turnovers).

[stevew]

What is that logo on the Pats field(50yard line)

[Abe Sargent]

Wow that was a game

[Buccaneer]

I'm sorry the Pats lost but man, that was a great game. You don't ever give up on Brady.

[Desnudo]

Niners defense played well the first half, I already said that. Pats also played incredibly bad in the first half too though. I'd argue that the Pats played worse then the Niners played great (especially looking at the 3 uncharacteristic turnovers).

49ers fumbled six times and only lost one. That is easily the difference in the game. Patriots recover two more of those, especially considering where they happened and they win.

49ers were better in the first, patriots in the second. Kapernick threw for 4 TDs in the rain on the road. kind of hard to doubt him.

[albionmoonlight]

Two very good teams last night. Fun game.

[RedKingGold]

With all these fumbles, hard to regard this game as anything but a fluke.

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