2013 College Football Offseason thread

[CU Tiger]

Didn't see one outside of the recruiting thread so thought Id start one.
Hearing rumblings that LSU head coach Les Miles will be resigning Monday AM after being caught Friday on campus with a 19 year old female African American student. Not sure why race even matters but the source I heard it from mentioned it repeatedly....any other NCAA boards rumbling?

[Buccaneer]

LSU resigning from what? SEC?

[DeToxRox]

I have heard the Les thing as well. We'll see.

[Tigercat]

All signs point to a false rumor spread by a WKU journalism student, picked up as probable by the wonderful world of social media and message boards. What a world!

On to real news, it got little national play so some of y'all may have missed it, but Miles hired Cam Cameron to be the new OC. LSU finally got the OC/QB coach they'be been missing since Jumbo Fisher left.

[Matthean]

You mean the guy who said his team was smart for firing him?

[Tigercat]

You mean the guy who said his team was smart for firing him?

Yup. He struggled as head coach of the dolphins as well. I hear even guys with those kind of experiences in the NFL can still have some success on the college level...? That's what I've heard at least, you might know better than I.

Seen positive quotes from Brees and Rivers on how he aided their development, Brees has been especially complimentary. And developing them at that level is a lot harder than at the college level. One of the best QB coaches they could have gotten, IMO. With that in place, some level of success as an OC should be easy to attain with his experience in college and the pros.

[Matthean]

I'm still surprised Denard made it that far and that Johnny Football isn't the one he's going up against.

University of Michigan Official Athletic Site (http://www.mgoblue.com/allaccess/?media=376496)

[digamma]

CU,
Any thoughts on Clemson agreeing to play a Thursday night game? Is it a student break or something?

[miami_fan]

I'm still surprised Denard made it that far and that Johnny Football isn't the one he's going up against.

University of Michigan Official Athletic Site (http://www.mgoblue.com/allaccess/?media=376496)

Are you talking about the NCAA football game cover vote?

[Kodos]

Yup. He struggled as head coach of the dolphins as well. I hear even guys with those kind of experiences in the NFL can still have some success on the college level...? That's what I've heard at least, you might know better than I.

Seen positive quotes from Brees and Rivers on how he aided their development, Brees has been especially complimentary. And developing them at that level is a lot harder than at the college level. One of the best QB coaches they could have gotten, IMO. With that in place, some level of success as an OC should be easy to attain with his experience in college and the pros.

Cameron never managed a winning season at IU despite having an offense led by Antwaan Randle El.

Maybe he's a better OC than HC.

[Matthean]

Are you talking about the NCAA football game cover vote?

Yes.

[miami_fan]

Yes.

From the looks of it, they started off by having people vote for the school and then at some point they attached former "student-athletes" to the schools.

[cschex]

Cameron never managed a winning season at IU despite having an offense led by Antwaan Randle El.

Maybe he's a better OC than HC.

I think there's no question he's not a good HC between IU and Miami. However, the man has developed a lot of prolific QB's and led a lot of top 10 offenses. That's what has me excited as an LSU fan. We have good quarterback talent, we just haven't had a high-level QB coach since Jimbo Fisher left

[Tigercat]

Cameron never managed a winning season at IU despite having an offense led by Antwaan Randle El.

Maybe he's a better OC than HC.

Lots of guys are like that. Even given only one year and what he had to work with for the Dolphins, thought he did a rather poor overall job there as well. Again, I am not even worried if he is a great OC, as long as he can coach up the QBs at LSU. If Jarett Lee had a good QB coach during his time at LSU, I would bet the NC game last year would have been entirely different.

[Matthean]

Lee played about as well as he could have versus 'Bama. It's their D at the end that killed their chances.

[Tigercat]

Lee played about as well as he could have versus 'Bama. It's their D at the end that killed their chances.

He didn't play in the NC game, and in the regular season game that year he was horrible against Bama. He had some serious talent in that arm, but never had a real QB coach at LSU, unfortunately. Will be curious if he ever plays professional football anywhere. (He was on a NFL practice squad last year.) Jefferson, on the other hand, probably wouldn't have ever been better than pretty good, even with a good QB coach.

[Matthean]

If Jarett Lee had a good QB coach during his time at LSU, I would bet the NC game last year would have been entirely different.

Wait, how would the NC game last year been different when he was in the NFL? Mettenberger was their QB last year. Two years ago I would make the argument that I don't even think a better QB coach would of made that much of a difference. LSU's offense sucked twice against 'Bama even with Lee involved and historically speaking you beat Saban teams at 'Bama via the run. During the NC game the play calling was likely more to blame than anything. Lee didn't even play in the game and that could be blamed on Miles as much as anybody. Hell, if 'Bama's kickers didn't put up the performance they did in the first game, LSU might not have even been in the title game.

FYI, since you said last year, I didn't catch that you likely were talking about the year before.

[cschex]

LSU wouldn't have gotten the same mulligan Bama got for losing on the road (as opposed to at home) in 2011? Probably not, but there is no question that they were the two best teams that year. FWIW, I agree with you on the title game because the play calling was just so uninspired , along with the play of the team. A different QB wouldn't have made a huge difference

[MacroGuru]

Not big name for most of you...but BYU announced a Home and Home with UCONN for 2014/2015 starting at UCONN in 2014.

I am excited for the 2014 game, that is close to a 6 hour drive for me and I will be there for it.

[HomerSimpson98]

I'm still surprised Denard made it that far and that Johnny Football isn't the one he's going up against.

University of Michigan Official Athletic Site (http://www.mgoblue.com/allaccess/?media=376496)

Current student athletes are not allowed to have their images associated with a money-making product, such as the EA Sports football game series. The children! Think of the poor children!

[Matthean]

Gardner gets another year so Michigan gets even more time to develop him and Morris can be groomed slowly.

Michigan QB Gardner granted extra year - Big Ten Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/72604/michigan-qb-gardner-receives-extra-year)

[JPhillips]

I wish there was a year deadline to file these or let the player decide to file. The whole idea of waiting to see if the player is worth the scholarship is a little shady.

[Matthean]

A shock to no one.

Gunner Kiel to transfer from Notre Dame Fighting Irish, source says - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9029462/gunner-kiel-transfer-notre-dame-fighting-irish-source-says)

[Kodos]

:lol:

[BYU 14]

Indiana is probably sounding pretty good to Kiel about now.

[MrBug708]

Indiana probably can do better than Kiel

[Lathum]

Was just looking at Washingtons schedule for next year and realized we play at Illinois in Chicago on 9/14. Negotiations have just begun with my wife.

[MrBug708]

Seferian-Jenkins arrested for DUI

[Lathum]

Seferian-Jenkins arrested for DUI

For real?

[JonInMiddleGA]

For real?

Even got HuffPo coverage

Austin Seferian-Jenkins Arrested For DUI: Washington Tight End Released From Precinct Office (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/10/austin-seferian-jenkins-arrested-dui-washington_n_2850075.html?utm_hp_ref=sports)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Even got HuffPo coverage

Austin Seferian-Jenkins Arrested For DUI: Washington Tight End Released From Precinct Office (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/10/austin-seferian-jenkins-arrested-dui-washington_n_2850075.html?utm_hp_ref=sports)

I like how they made sure to show a game pic of him dropping the ball for this story.

[dawgfan]

Not good. It appears he drove off the road into a ditch and banged his face pretty hard on the windshield or dash. Unclear at this point if others were in the car.

I know the spot where it happened (it's less than a 5-minute walk from my house) - it's a 90 degree curve at the bottom of a hilly drive, bordering a park. My guess is he was buzzed, going too fast & lost control of the car. Doesn't sound like he hit anyone else (but details keep leaking out, so who knows); does seem pretty clear he was driving rather than the passenger.

Pretty clear cross-roads here for ASJ. He has 1st round NFL potential, but he's now got one significant strike. Does he get the message and keep his nose clean from here on out, or does he continue to be reckless? For a guy who should be one of the leaders of the team, not a smart move.

[Logan]

Yeah I hope he was just buzzed and not drunk.

[dawgfan]

Yeah I hope he was just buzzed and not drunk.
In Washington any minor above a 0.02 is considered "under the influence".

[CU Tiger]

CU,
Any thoughts on Clemson agreeing to play a Thursday night game? Is it a student break or something?

Shrug.
New AD flexed his muscle a bit. He will understand after the debacle why it's specifically a bad idea in CLEMSON. I have a private parking spot not on campus property that i own, so it won't kill me. But it will be chaos, again.

[MrBug708]

How do you own a private parking spot?

[dawgfan]

How do you own a private parking spot?
It's at a business he owns?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Pretty minor news, except that IIRC former Tucker HS star Thomas Brown was featured in one of the HS football threads here a number of years ago. He's reportedly leaving Ga State as RB coach to take the same job at Marshall. Thomas Brown resigning from Georgia State | www.ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/thomas-brown-resigning-from-georgia-state/nWp5F/)

[QuikSand]

How fast dat boy run again?

[Atocep]

Pretty minor news, except that IIRC former Tucker HS star Thomas Brown was featured in one of the HS football threads here a number of years ago. He's reportedly leaving Ga State as RB coach to take the same job at Marshall. Thomas Brown resigning from Georgia State | www.ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/thomas-brown-resigning-from-georgia-state/nWp5F/)

I doubt anyone is interested but the chain of events that led to this was WVU lost former Gator Robert Gillespie to Tennessee as running backs coach, WVU filled that spot with Marshall running backs coach and former WVU player JaJuan Seider, and Marshall filled their spot with Brown.

[MrBug708]

It's at a business he owns?

On a college campus?

[dawgfan]

On a college campus?

"I have a private parking spot not on campus property that i own..."

[MrBug708]

Don't be obtuse :)

[CU Tiger]

How do you own a private parking spot?

Directly across from Clemson's stadium just off campus a good friend of mine who is a local developer had a brilliant idea. He bought 3 acres of dirt and made it a parking lot suitable for 150 parking spaces. Added really nice bathrooms and a huge covered party area with TVs, a gas log fireplace, grills and some other nice ammenities.

Then he sold those parking spots for $25,000 each. Complete with a deed to your ~11' x 25' piece of land.

I own the parking spot, and can sell it at a later date. I have a guaranted parking spot for anything I want to do in Clemson forever, and its inisde a gated and number pad accessed fence. I was able to reduce my iptay contribution by $2500/year as primo parking was no longr and issue, I sell my el cheapo parking spot for $500- $1,000 a year and the ROI is incredible. Add in its a real state transactuon interest was tax deductible..and viola

And Tom W made about 3 mil on a 200k investment.

Tom Winkopp Realtor/Developer, LLC Developing our community's potential (http://www.tomwinkopp.com/developments.php?details=26)

And if one owned an electrical contracting business one could probably trade some minor electrical work for spot..

[Matthean]

Jack Ryan, Michigan's leading tackler, has a torn ACL.

Jake Ryan of Michigan Wolverines has torn ACL - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9075304/jake-ryan-michigan-wolverines-torn-acl?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

[Matthean]

Alabama Crimson Tide, Wisconsin Badgers to play in 2015 season opener - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9076312/alabama-crimson-tide-wisconsin-badgers-play-2015-season-opener)

[Atocep]

Former WVU, New Mexico, JUCO, and current Maryland WR Deon Long suspended 2 weeks for breaking university policy (most likely positive drug test). That means it's already his 2nd offense since arriving on campus and he faces a 1 year suspension if he tests positive again.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Shell out at Pitt?


http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21959981/report-pittsburgh-rb-rushel-shell-considering-transfer

[Atocep]

Shell out at Pitt?


http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21959981/report-pittsburgh-rb-rushel-shell-considering-transfer

The current rumor is Shell has decided to transfer and is looking at his options. There hasn't been a formal request to transfer yet, but Pitt people are saying it's going to happen soon. He's supposedly been told ASU isn't going to happen so he's interested in UCLA or USC. I'd honestly be surprised if he went that far away from home.

There's another rumor that Deaysean Rippy may be seeking a transfer as well and WVU is a possibility there since he came close to committing to WVU before choosing Pitt and his lead recruiter at Pitt is now coaching at WVU. A couple of the Pitt people seem to think a Rippy and Shell package to WVU is possible although I'm not sure WVU would take Shell. He's got some baggage.

[MacroGuru]

I don't know how big this is for the ND folks

Davonte' Neal, Justin Ferguson to leave Notre Dame Fighting Irish - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9103426/davonte-neal-justin-ferguson-leave-notre-dame-fighting-irish)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Mal Moore, former Alabama Crimson Tide athletic director, dies at 73 - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9115234/mal-moore-former-alabama-crimson-tide-athletic-director-dies-73)

[BishopMVP]

I don't know how big this is for the ND folks

Davonte' Neal, Justin Ferguson to leave Notre Dame Fighting Irish - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9103426/davonte-neal-justin-ferguson-leave-notre-dame-fighting-irish)Combined with Amir Carlisle's injury, hurts us a lot for spring practice because I don't think we have a slot receiver left. Can't be too surprised about Neal leaving though.

UMass also lost a starting WR, Marken Michel. Interesting because he's the older brother of top 5 2014 recruit Sony Michel, and UMass coaches are alleging that an SEC school illegally contacted him and offered him a spot to help with their recruitment of Sony. I doubt that goes anywhere, and I don't even know if they'll push it with the NCAA, but interesting to me.

[digamma]

Mal Moore, former Alabama Crimson Tide athletic director, dies at 73 - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9115234/mal-moore-former-alabama-crimson-tide-athletic-director-dies-73)

11 days after he retired. I think that beats Bear's record.

[BYU 14]

. Can't be too surprised about Neal leaving though.



Trust me, after observing the dog and pony show that was this kid and his dad through his high school career up close (3 in 4 years BTW) the Irish are not missing anything. Great talent, but a huge PITA in all other aspects. They are saying it is to be close to his kid, but hearing they are not satisfied that he will be 'featured' the way they think he should in the ND offense.

[Brownkeg8]

Trust me, after observing the dog and pony show that was this kid and his dad through his high school career up close (3 in 4 years BTW) the Irish are not missing anything. Great talent, but a huge PITA in all other aspects. They are saying it is to be close to his kid, but hearing they are not satisfied that he will be 'featured' the way they think he should in the ND offense.


There definitely was something amiss when the Buckeyes were recruiting him. The rumor was the dad requested something extra and Urban immediately dropped interest.

[BishopMVP]

We're now up to like half a starting lineup of talented headcases that have left or decommitted from ND in the last 3 years. QB Gunner Kiel, WR's Neal, Ferguson and Deontay Greenberry at Houston. Aaron Lynch at DE and Ronald Darby and Tee Shephard at CB. Probably not too out of the ordinary, and a couple recruiting saga kids have worked out - Te'o, Stephon Tuitt, Cierre Wood all come to mind.

[Atocep]

Pittsburgh papers reporting Shell is transferring to a PAC-12 school. The rumor is that it's Arizona.

Considering his family situation I really thought he'd end up staying closer to home.

Wherever he ends up, there's a considerable amount of baggage. He stayed in Chryst's doghouse most of last year and didn't show up for spring camp in the greatest shape.

[dawgfan]

http://www.roopstigo.com/reader/auburns_vainted_title_victims_violations_and_vendettas_for_glory/

I've never heard of roopstigo.com before, but it's a pretty interesting read.

[BYU 14]

There definitely was something amiss when the Buckeyes were recruiting him. The rumor was the dad requested something extra and Urban immediately dropped interest.

He asked for some guarantees, Meyer pulled the offer and they then tried to twist it to make OSU look bad, as if they were the victims.

In terms of where he will end up, his Dad had a falling out with his HS coach who now has a none coaching position on Rich Rod's staff and U of A and he also told ASU he would consider them if they didn't hire another HS coach form here that he (Dad) didn't like, so Graham told him to take hike. So pretty sure the home state bridges are burned.

[Matthean]

http://www.roopstigo.com/reader/auburns_vainted_title_victims_violations_and_vendettas_for_glory/

I've never heard of roopstigo.com before, but it's a pretty interesting read.

It's on ESPN now.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9131624/auburn-tigers-coaches-bribed-players-altered-grades-broke-recruiting-rules-gene-chizik-according-report

[Kodos]

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2051041

[BishopMVP]

Victims, Violations and Vendettas for Glory (http://www.roopstigo.com/reader/auburns_vainted_title_victims_violations_and_vendettas_for_glory/)

I've never heard of roopstigo.com before, but it's a pretty interesting read.Weren't ex-players (also awaiting trial or kicked off the team for being arrested iirc) alleging they had been paid money by Auburn/Trooper Taylor while being recruited or while at the school back around Thanksgiving 2010 as well? I guess Muschamp's name coming up and the grade-changing allegations are new, and I have no problem believing most of it is true, but I fail to see the NCAA doing much of anything now when they turned a blind eye then.

[bhlloy]

It's fine. We'll just all erase the memory of them winning the title game, they can give the trophy back and a bunch of recruits in four years will get hit with sanctions.

That is if the investigators manage not to shit all over themselves at every possible opportunity, which might be too much to ask thinking about it. What a fucked up organization

[Buccaneer]

Auburn players got paid and altered grades? How is that different than any other major program the past 30 years. Heck, I saw/heard that at Carolina a long time ago. But being Auburn and SEC, they're the best at it.

[MrBug708]

Pittsburgh papers reporting Shell is transferring to a PAC-12 school. The rumor is that it's Arizona.

Considering his family situation I really thought he'd end up staying closer to home.

Wherever he ends up, there's a considerable amount of baggage. He stayed in Chryst's doghouse most of last year and didn't show up for spring camp in the greatest shape.

ASU I think

[MrBug708]

He asked for some guarantees, Meyer pulled the offer and they then tried to twist it to make OSU look bad, as if they were the victims.

In terms of where he will end up, his Dad had a falling out with his HS coach who now has a none coaching position on Rich Rod's staff and U of A and he also told ASU he would consider them if they didn't hire another HS coach form here that he (Dad) didn't like, so Graham told him to take hike. So pretty sure the home state bridges are burned.

I think he is taking a visit to Arizona

[BYU 14]

I think he is taking a visit to Arizona

That is a little surprising, I will have to look into that. He would fit really well in that offense, but god, the baggage!!

[Kodos]

Mizzou's SEC recruiting woes starting to show (http://www.foxsportsmidwest.com/collegefootball/missouri-tigers/story/Mizzous-SEC-recruiting-woes-starting-to-?blockID=887233)

[Matthean]

Looks like ESPN will add to the Auburn situation.

A darker side to the downfall of the Auburn Tigers -- ESPN The Magazine - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/espn/e60/story/_/id/9133824/a-darker-side-downfall-auburn-tigers-espn-magazine)

[SnDvls]

Pittsburgh papers reporting Shell is transferring to a PAC-12 school. The rumor is that it's Arizona.

Considering his family situation I really thought he'd end up staying closer to home.

Wherever he ends up, there's a considerable amount of baggage. He stayed in Chryst's doghouse most of last year and didn't show up for spring camp in the greatest shape.

PITT has blocked ASU, Arizona and the ACC

[dawgfan]

PITT has blocked ASU, Arizona and the ACC
That's some serious bullshit. Pitt isn't scheduled to play either if the Arizona schools through 2019. And while I guess I get the bitterness of not allowing him to play for their former coach that jilted the program after a year, why block Arizona?

[SnDvls]

That's some serious bullshit. Pitt isn't scheduled to play either if the Arizona schools through 2019. And while I guess I get the bitterness of not allowing him to play for their former coach that jilted the program after a year, why block Arizona?

they have 2 ex-Pitt coaches on staff. RB coach who originally recruited him and recruiting cord.

it's a petty move by them and Ted Miller of ESPN is already ripping on them.

Shell is fighting it as well so we'll see in a week or so what happens.
Also Pitt did allow a player to transfer to ASU last year.

[MrBug708]

I went to Devils Digest to see what was being said about Shell/Pitt and man, that board is pretty hard to read.

[yacovfb]

Pitt cares about Shell too much to let him play for the Fraud or DickRod

[dawgfan]

Pitt cares about Shell too much to let him play for the Fraud or DickRod
Yeah, I mean why let the kid actually play for a successful program - that'd really throw him for a loop after being at Pitt.

[yacovfb]

Yeah, I mean why let the kid actually play for a successful program - that'd really throw him for a loop after being at Pitt.

Nice one but when Pitt has coaching stability, they've proven they can win 8 games with the best of them too;)

Technically, Shell can play for Arizona or Arizona State if he wants to. He would just have to pay his own way the first year. Honestly, I wish Pitt released him to Arizona State - he and the Fraud deserve one another.

[dawgfan]

Nice one but when Pitt has coaching stability, they've proven they can win 8 games with the best of them too;)

Technically, Shell can play for Arizona or Arizona State if he wants to. He would just have to pay his own way the first year. Honestly, I wish Pitt released him to Arizona State - he and the Fraud deserve one another.
I think it's very unbecoming of a great academic institution like Pitt to be acting so petty with regard to Shell. And I'd say the same thing if it happened at Washington.

[Kodos]

http://www.indystar.com/article/20130406/SPORTS/304060043/Gunner-Kiel-former-No-1-QB-prospect-checks-out-Ball-State?nclick_check=1

Gunner is kicking the tires at Ball State. Hopefully Mommy likes Balls!

[CU Tiger]

Pitt feels very strongly there is tampering by the asu staff. I have no idea if its legit, but i know that's why they blocked them.

[dawgfan]

Pitt feels very strongly there is tampering by the asu staff. I have no idea if its legit, but i know that's why they blocked them.
If that's what they think, then I understand their desire to block him. It still comes across as petty & vindictive though without any proof.

At the end of the day, Shell doesn't want to be at Pitt any more. That's Pitt's fault - it wouldn't matter if Graham or his staff was tampering if Shell was happy at Pitt, because he wouldn't be looking to leave.

[Chief Rum]

If that's what they think, then I understand their desire to block him. It still comes across as petty & vindictive though without any proof.

At the end of the day, Shell doesn't want to be at Pitt any more. That's Pitt's fault - it wouldn't matter if Graham or his staff was tampering if Shell was happy at Pitt, because he wouldn't be looking to leave.

Maybe to you. Not to me. It feels to me like I see colleges blocking transfers to schools that hired former coaches all the time. And that's without allegations of tampering.

I don't think Pitt is under any obligation to make allowances for a transfer out except to allow those players the ability to go to a school where they feel they can be comfortable, get an education and get a chance to play football. And that goes for all schools with transfers.

[dawgfan]

Maybe to you. Not to me. It feels to me like I see colleges blocking transfers to schools that hired former coaches all the time. And that's without allegations of tampering.

I don't think Pitt is under any obligation to make allowances for a transfer out except to allow those players the ability to go to a school where they feel they can be comfortable, get an education and get a chance to play football. And that goes for all schools with transfers.
You're free to disagree. But I'm having a really hard time seeing any justification for blocking his choice of schools to transfer to without penalty that has the kid's best interests at heart - it's all about what's best for the institution.

I'm not someone that advocates full out payment to college athletes (though I would like to see an increase in the stipend) because A) I think the value of what they get in terms of education is already a great value, and B) the kids are under no obligation to go through the college process - if they want to get paid right away, go semi-pro, or CFL, or Arena League.

That said, I also think the system is gamed to benefit the schools more than the kids, and this is a great example of that. If Pitt has some proof that he's been tampered with, I can see the desire to not reward that behavior, but without that proof I think they simply need to accept that their program is not attractive enough to keep Shell from being tempted to leave, and rather than be petty with him, they should focus on improving themselves enough so that kids are less inclined to want to leave.

And as I said before, I'd say the same thing if it were a Washington Husky looking to transfer. I think this whole business of blocking where kids can transfer is bullshit.

[MrBug708]

I'm kind of split on the issue. I think not allowing a kid to transfer to ASU is fine. When a coach leaves a school, the LOI isn't released because the kid commits to a school, not a coach and it's part of the business. Just like a school does not have to release a kid from an LOI, the kid must sit out a year and essentially RS to leave the school. Maybe following a coach who doesn't have the kids best interests at heart and lied to a school, should be a good sign. If it means that much to the kid to play for Graham, he could easily go to a JC for a year and transfer unopposed to wherever his heart desires.

I also fully agree with any negative PR hit that Pitt takes in not allowing him to transfer to ASU.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Really excited to have Henry Josey back on the team. Kid was one of the best rushers in the nation before his knee injury. Staff believes that he's back at full strength and speed.

Mizzou's Josey takes 'remarkable' step forward : Sports (http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/mizzou-s-josey-takes-remarkable-step-forward/article_c161f03f-fc07-5902-86ff-2d4416c43396.html)

[SnDvls]

Pitt feels very strongly there is tampering by the asu staff. I have no idea if its legit, but i know that's why they blocked them.

but then why block Arizona too??? again petty move

[SnDvls]

I went to Devils Digest to see what was being said about Shell/Pitt and man, that board is pretty hard to read.

the unmoderated boards are hard to read on just about any site. Gotta get on the inside LOL

[BYU 14]

He asked for some guarantees, Meyer pulled the offer and they then tried to twist it to make OSU look bad, as if they were the victims.

In terms of where he will end up, his Dad had a falling out with his HS coach who now has a none coaching position on Rich Rod's staff and U of A and he also told ASU he would consider them if they didn't hire another HS coach form here that he (Dad) didn't like, so Graham told him to take hike. So pretty sure the home state bridges are burned.

I think he is taking a visit to Arizona

Well, Davonte Neal decided to go to UofA over UCLA, which his Dad says was the front runner before they met with RichRod.

Now he is applying for a hardship waiver to play next year, which is another SMH moment in the drama that follows this kid.

I applaud him for moving back to be close to his daughter and be responsible as a father, but how the hell does that constitute a hardship that should allow him to play? Probably the better plan would be to sit, burn your redshirt year, focus on academics and taking care of your daughter and not worrying about being able to play this season.

I will be interested to see how the NCAA rules on this, but I can't imagine them granting a waiver.

Edit: His HS coach is actually the TE coach now at UA, but apparently the prior falling out was not a factor.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Didn't know if any of the other Mizzou fans have been watching the daily pics from the Mizzou coaches of the Rock Hill renovation. Moving a lot of dirt.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHlyr24CIAEHRpm.jpg:large

[britrock88]

I tend to slack off in the offseason, but the UNC spring game is tomorrow. Today, they unveiled a tweaked end zone design:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/546059_10151540959320900_1514594989_n.jpg

Essentially, they're bringing the argyle over from basketball. It's strange-looking, but unquestionably unique, so I can roll with it.

What's scarier about it is what it might portend for the unveiling of a new set of jerseys tomorrow. How often does Nike get a redesign right?... :(

[BYU 14]

Hehe, not cool MrBug ;)

Looking forward to this though, I live 15 minutes from UOP and will be taking up the poster in this thread who offered to share his beer with the BYU fans.

[MrBug708]

Ha! :)

[Wolfpack]

I tend to slack off in the offseason, but the UNC spring game is tomorrow. Today, they unveiled a tweaked end zone design:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/546059_10151540959320900_1514594989_n.jpg

Essentially, they're bringing the argyle over from basketball. It's strange-looking, but unquestionably unique, so I can roll with it.

What's scarier about it is what it might portend for the unveiling of a new set of jerseys tomorrow. How often does Nike get a redesign right?... :(

For a moment, I thought this was a picture of the crowd at today's game. ;)

(20,000? Really? I saw the highlights and there's no way Keenan was one-third full. Looked decently full in one of the lower level sideline stands, though.)

[britrock88]

For a moment, I thought this was a picture of the crowd at today's game. ;)

(20,000? Really? I saw the highlights and there's no way Keenan was one-third full. Looked decently full in one of the lower level sideline stands, though.)

Oh, and to follow up on the uniforms, they're hideous. :(

[TargetPractice6]

Estimated 40-50,000 at the Kentucky spring game last night. Check out last year's crowd compared to this year's:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHxiHl1CIAAAvHu.jpg:large

[MrBug708]

Pittsburgh papers reporting Shell is transferring to a PAC-12 school. The rumor is that it's Arizona.

Considering his family situation I really thought he'd end up staying closer to home.

Wherever he ends up, there's a considerable amount of baggage. He stayed in Chryst's doghouse most of last year and didn't show up for spring camp in the greatest shape.

UCLA

[M GO BLUE!!!]

"If I do my job and do it 100 percent between the whistles and just try to physically dominate someone every single play and make them hurt at the end of the game, that's enough for me to go home happy every Saturday," he said. "I enjoy the pain of it. Maybe I'm a little messed up in the head, I don't know, but I enjoy hitting my face on another man's face and trying to put him in the dirt and make him feel every single inch of it.

"Something about that, it puts me on cloud nine."

This is a good read.

Taylor Lewan pays the price to be a Michigan Man - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/74641/lewan-pays-the-price-to-be-a-michigan-man)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Pretty clear why Kelly left Oregon.....

Reports: NCAA, Oregon Ducks agree 'major' violations committed by football program - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9177148/ncaa-oregon-ducks-agree-major-violations-committed-football-program)

[Atocep]

Clint Trickett transferring from FSU. Likely destination is WVU.

[BYU 14]

Clint Trickett transferring from FSU. Likely destination is WVU.

That was quick, I watched the spring game and didn't think he would be named the starter.

[Atocep]

UCLA

Really talented kid, but word about issues with him were coming out before he even signed at Pitt.

Sounds like there are more transferring out of that program as well. Rippy, who I mentioned, is expected to transfer and word is 3-4 more players in the program might be leaving.

2014 QB Chandler Kincade also decommitted today. Chryst seems to be having some issues.

[MrBug708]

Rippy was a UCLA guy at one time, but the staff basically stopped recruiting him. The same thing with Colorado and they were desperate for bodies

As for Shell, UCLA probably doesnt lose much if he doesnt pan out so it's a nice gamble. We don't need a RB as badly this year, but the following year, so he will have a year to get things straightened out or he's gone. Mora hasn't had much problem booting kids out for not towing the line.

ASU fans are convinced that Pitt steered him to UCLA so he would face ASU every year.

[Matthean]

Report: Texas A&M set to expand Kyle Field to 103K capacity | Campus Union - SI.com (http://college-football.si.com/2013/04/30/texas-am-kyle-field-seating-capacity/?eref=sihp)

Interesting how both schools new to the SEC are already doing stadium renovations. :lol:

[Matthean]

College Football's Top 50 Running Backs of the BCS Era | AthlonSports.com (http://www.athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-top-50-running-backs-bcs-era)

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Never thought about it this way, but looking at the stats in the top 50 QB's Denard Robinson had 1,268 more passing yards than Tom Brady, threw for 18 more TD's and on the ground had 39 more rushing TD's. Thirty-nine.

[Matthean]

Also had 20 more INTs, which probably was more of his downfall than his actual inability to throw although it went hand in hand. His utter and complete inability to throw the long ball was mind numbingly bad.

[Matthean]

Dienhart: 25 things I learned this Spring « Big Ten Network (http://btn.com/2013/05/02/dienhart-25-things-i-learned-from-spring-football-2013/)

[Cap Ologist]

Never thought about it this way, but looking at the stats in the top 50 QB's Denard Robinson had 1,268 more passing yards than Tom Brady, threw for 18 more TD's and on the ground had 39 more rushing TD's. Thirty-nine.

Didn't Brady also split time as the starter with Drew Henson?

[Cap Ologist]

Report: Texas A&M set to expand Kyle Field to 103K capacity | Campus Union - SI.com (http://college-football.si.com/2013/04/30/texas-am-kyle-field-seating-capacity/?eref=sihp)

Interesting how both schools new to the SEC are already doing stadium renovations. :lol:

It's been in the works for awhile, I remember reading about it for the first time 3 years or so ago.

[Matthean]

Didn't Brady also split time as the starter with Drew Henson?

Yep.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Kind of weird to see how much they've changed the hill at Memorial Field. GA seats are going to be a lot closer to the action now. Going to love sitting there with my kids.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/941428_10152222379080283_1516963384_n.jpg

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Nice story here......

Oklahoma State's Spencer and ESPN's Edwards: A love story - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/jeremy-fowler/22246927/oklahoma-states-glenn-spencer-and-espns-jeannine-edwards-a-love-story)

[Matthean]

Big Ten 2014 Schedule
http://bigtennetworks.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/2014-big-ten-football-schedule_.pdf

[Logan]

Rutgers' first B1G game is hosting Penn State, and then in October we start a four game stretch hosting Michigan, at Ohio State, at Nebraska, and home for Wisconsin. Going to be brutal but can't wait.

[Swaggs]

This is gold: HAIRSWAPS: RIVALRY EDITION - Every Day Should Be Saturday (http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2013/5/16/4336942/hairswaps-rivalry-edition)

[DeToxRox]

Haven't seen a 2nd confirmation of this but:

@angdicarlowndu: BREAKING: Notre Dame confirms to WNDU that quarterback Everett Golson is no longer enrolled at ND. They can't say why due to privacy laws.

[DeToxRox]

Apparently DaVaris Daniels may be gone as well.

[Atocep]

Haven't seen a 2nd confirmation of this but:

@angdicarlowndu: BREAKING: Notre Dame confirms to WNDU that quarterback Everett Golson is no longer enrolled at ND. They can't say why due to privacy laws.

The rumor is plagiarism.

[JonInMiddleGA]

The rumor is plagiarism.

Bet he copied something from Teo's gf

[Lathum]

Espn reporting now.

[DeToxRox]

@StevePoliti: I've been told we're minutes from a very explosive Rutgers story going up on our site. Hang tight ...

[Atocep]

@StevePoliti: I've been told we're minutes from a very explosive Rutgers story going up on our site. Hang tight ...

I'm guessing it's this

Hermann involved in controversy over existence of video | Scarlet Scuttlebutt (http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/rutgers/2013/05/25/hermann-involved-in-controversy-over-existence-of-video-tape/)

[Jon]

I'm guessing it's this

Hermann involved in controversy over existence of video | Scarlet Scuttlebutt (http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/rutgers/2013/05/25/hermann-involved-in-controversy-over-existence-of-video-tape/)

But wait...there's more!!!!


Rutgers' new athletic director faces fresh questions about her past | NJ.com (http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/05/rutgers_new_athletic_director.html#incart_river)

[Matthean]

Rees feels like he's been there forever so I think for next year they will be OK. If Kelly can work on his next guy next year there could be little transition time, but Golson just screwed himself so hard by doing whatever he did. Whatever prevents ND from going undefeated again and certainly beating Michigan I am all for.

[JonInMiddleGA]

But wait...there's more!!!! ... Rutgers' new athletic director faces fresh questions about her past

Somewhat ironically, the Joan Cronan mentioned prominently in the volleyball controversy is the same woman who is now working out her own severance after the position of women's AD was eliminated at UT. A $1.29 million dollar severance package with a number of perks will send her into retirement after a stint as "adviser to the University President".

[bob]

Gunner Keil has to be kicking himself.

They should be ok with Tommy Rees for this year. No one thought they would duplicate last year anyway.

[JPhillips]

The rumor is plagiarism.

If that's true, good to see the school holding high standards. When I turned in a D3 athlete for copying an entire paper the AD and coach came to my chair's office and tried to get her to pressure me to drop it. When she wouldn't, they got the president involved, and while he still failed my class, he didn't see any punishment as far as his team.

[BYU 14]

Gunner Keil has to be kicking himself.

They should be ok with Tommy Rees for this year. No one thought they would duplicate last year anyway.

Malik Zaire was an early enrollee, so he will be in the mix as well. He probably has as much or more upside than Golson anyway. Just no depth after those two and after this season they will only have two schollie players at the position.

[bob]

Malik Zaire was an early enrollee, so he will be in the mix as well. He probably has as much or more upside than Golson anyway. Just no depth after those two and after this season they will only have two schollie players at the position.

Don't they still have Hendrix as well?

[Julio Riddols]

Gunner Kiel is a huge dumbass. So glad we have Sudfeld instead.

[BYU 14]

Don't they still have Hendrix as well?

Yeah, he is the other senior. Can't see him getting the job, I think it is either Rees and hope he can be consistent, or start building for the future now with Zaire, or a combination with Rees starting early and Zaire getting reps in here and there.

[dawgfan]

But wait...there's more!!!!


Rutgers' new athletic director faces fresh questions about her past | NJ.com (http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/05/rutgers_new_athletic_director.html#incart_river)
What a fuster-cluck of an athletic department. That search firm Rutgers used - what a waste of money.

[Jon]

What a fuster-cluck of an athletic department. That search firm Rutgers used - what a waste of money.

It was a waste since the search committee didn't use any of the names put forth by the firm.

Hermann was added by co-chair of the RU search committee.

[Jon]

It's now staring to look like the Star Ledger basically took one side of the story and failed to investigate the allegations further. Many many people have come out in defense of Hermann, including a former assistant coach.

[Lathum]

This whole Rutgers thing seems like piling on at this point.

[JonInMiddleGA]

It's now staring to look like the Star Ledger basically took one side of the story and failed to investigate the allegations further. Many many people have come out in defense of Hermann, including a former assistant coach.

Then again, how much credibility does a woman who claims to have forgotten that she attended a wedding where she caught the bouquet possibly have left?

I might buy the forgetting a wedding absent that but under those circumstances, srsly, how many women have you met in your entire life who would forget that detail?

[dawgfan]

Then again, how much credibility does a woman who claims to have forgotten that she attended a wedding where she caught the bouquet possibly have left?

I might buy the forgetting a wedding absent that but under those circumstances, srsly, how many women have you met in your entire life who would forget that detail?
She was really drunk...?

[JonInMiddleGA]

She was really drunk...?

A woman drunk enough to forget that detail would almost certainly have been unconscious already & couldn't have caught it in the first place.

[Matthean]

A woman drunk enough to forget that detail would almost certainly have been unconscious already & couldn't have caught it in the first place.

She could have gotten wasted later on.

[JonInMiddleGA]

She could have gotten wasted later on.

In the words of the mighty Metallica ... "but the memory remains" :p

[BishopMVP]

Rees feels like he's been there forever so I think for next year they will be OK. If Kelly can work on his next guy next year there could be little transition time, but Golson just screwed himself so hard by doing whatever he did. Whatever prevents ND from going undefeated again and certainly beating Michigan I am all for.Malik Zaire was an early enrollee, so he will be in the mix as well. He probably has as much or more upside than Golson anyway. Just no depth after those two and after this season they will only have two schollie players at the position.I'm really unimpressed with Rees and Hendrix, so I hope it's Zaire who impresses and wins the starting job, but Rees as a fallback isn't the worst option. Golson can also come back after a year/semester off (Gary Gray and someone else did a couple years back), and rumor has us in on Wes Lunt from Oklahoma State as a transfer. Kelly certainly does like rotating through his quarterbacks, in season and out!

[Julio Riddols]

Lunt showed some promise last year.

[Kodos]

Gunner Kiel is a huge dumbass. So glad we have Sudfeld instead.

Agree 100%. Love Sudfeld.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Lest my reasoning for not believing the current (and future former?) Rutgers AD appear sexist, consider this from ESPN's Dana O'Neil "Trust me, no woman forgets being a bridesmaid, especially in the 1980s and '90s. Taffeta memories have the shelf life of a cockroach."

[Matthean]

I'm really unimpressed with Rees and Hendrix, so I hope it's Zaire who impresses and wins the starting job, but Rees as a fallback isn't the worst option. Golson can also come back after a year/semester off (Gary Gray and someone else did a couple years back), and rumor has us in on Wes Lunt from Oklahoma State as a transfer. Kelly certainly does like rotating through his quarterbacks, in season and out!

I think Rees gets dumped on due to his sophomore season. The Irish aren't in the title game last season without him, and I thought he was their better QB for a decent chunk of the season.

[BishopMVP]

I think Rees gets dumped on due to his sophomore season. The Irish aren't in the title game last season without him, and I thought he was their better QB for a decent chunk of the season.I really think Kelly's offense needs a QB with the threat of mobility to work properly - Rees is not that. (Hendrix is the opposite in that he can run, but can't/never throws.) Having a QB with 18 career starts and a couple big 4th quarter drives step in as a caretaker is a pretty good fallback scenario, and based off the rumors of Golson's practice style I'm not sure he had as much upside as it appeared, but I think this greatly lowers our offensive upside. Strength of the team will again be a dominant front 7 on D, so I think we'll be right there vs. any non-Alabama team we play, but it's unlikely we'll win every tight game again. Hopefully the DaVaris Daniels rumor was just that - having a couple legit big-play threats will take the pressure off whichever QB plays.

I thought Vanderdoes was supposed to release a statement today?

[Matthean]

Speaking of former Kelly QBs.

Ex-Grand Valley State QB Cullen Finnerty found dead in Michigan - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9320270/cullen-finnerty-found-dead-michigan)

[Matthean]

Gordon Gee, Ohio State president, takes shots at Notre Dame and Catholics - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9325510/gordon-gee-ohio-state-president-takes-shots-notre-dame-catholics)

It's just so easy to hate on OSU sometimes.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Gordon Gee, Ohio State president, takes shots at Notre Dame and Catholics - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9325510/gordon-gee-ohio-state-president-takes-shots-notre-dame-catholics)

It's just so easy to hate on OSU sometimes.

Not sure what all the chatter is about. It was a funny comment. People need to lighten up.

[RomaGoth]

Not sure what all the chatter is about. It was a funny comment. People need to lighten up.

No, it wasn't funny it was just ignorant unless you think insulting a religion is funny.

The sooner that president goes away the better, he is an embarrassment to OSU, the big ten, and college in general.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

No, it wasn't funny it was just ignorant unless you think insulting a religion is funny.

The sooner that president goes away the better, he is an embarrassment to OSU, the big ten, and college in general.

It depends on what context I suppose. I wisecrack things about my Catholic brother-in-law. We wisecrack about having to give out brown bags at the winery so the Baptists don't see your booze. People don't spend enough time laughing at themselves IMO.

Should he have said it given his position? Probably not. Is it to the level that you sugguest? Absolutely not.

[Lathum]

I think people need to lighten up as well, that being said I can see people being offended, and someone in his position with his recent history probably shouldn't have said it.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

People DO need to lighten up a bit, but university presidents need to show MUCH better judgement.

I'm sure he wouldn't think it was quite as funny if you laughed up his exact wordage, substituting "Mormon" for "Catholic."

Hopefully this turns off a few Catholic football recruits. :D

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

People DO need to lighten up a bit, but university presidents need to show MUCH better judgement.

I'm sure he wouldn't think it was quite as funny if you laughed up his exact wordage, substituting "Mormon" for "Catholic."

Hopefully this turns off a few Catholic football recruits. :D

This is a much better summation of the situation. I agree with this.

[RomaGoth]

It depends on what context I suppose. I wisecrack things about my Catholic brother-in-law. We wisecrack about having to give out brown bags at the winery so the Baptists don't see your booze. People don't spend enough time laughing at themselves IMO.

Should he have said it given his position? Probably not. Is it to the level that you sugguest? Absolutely not.

It's one thing to wisecrack about something in jest. It's another thing to be an ignorant douchebag who says whatever is on his mind at the time with no regard for consequences. I guarantee if he said something about gays/lesbians or skin color people would be up in arms over it. But I guess since it is just Catholics it's ok.

[RomaGoth]

dola

And to follow up on my above statements, I am Catholic and not particularly offended by what he said at all. However, I do get tired of the double-standard that is thrown around in public discourse; some things are ok to say and some aren't, it just depends on the mood of society and who is in political office at the time. If it is a jerky thing to say then don't say it, regardless of who thinks it's funny or "not a big deal".

[mckerney]

This is a much better summation of the situation. I agree with this.

I'm glad you got it, otherwise I was going to tell you to learn to read and write so then you could figure out what we're talking about. :D

[Butter]

Glad all the Michigan fans are finding some way to fill their summer.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Who said I was a Michigan fan?

[Lathum]

Glad all the Michigan fans are finding some way to fill their summer.

This comes off as sour grapes.

What he said was stupid, plain and simple. Do Michigan fans take some joy in it, likely, but don't act like it's just Michigan fans raising a ruckus because it is the president of OSU.

[Butter]

Of the 7 people posting on the subject, we've got Matthean, RomaGoth, and M GO BLUE!!! And me, who doesn't count. And mckerney, who is also a rival B1G fan.

Is Gee an idiot? Sure. There are many reasons he deserves to be fired. But they are certainly not going to be in this thread commenting if this was anyone but Gee.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Of the 7 people posting on the subject, we've got Matthean, RomaGoth, and M GO BLUE!!! And me, who doesn't count. And mckerney, who is also a rival B1G fan.

Is Gee an idiot? Sure. There are many reasons he deserves to be fired. But they are certainly not going to be in this thread commenting if this was anyone but Gee.

I happen to think Gee does not deserve to be fired. I want him in Columbus forever. Give him a raise & a 24/7 open mic!

[molson]

But they are certainly not going to be in this thread commenting if this was anyone but Gee.

It's impossible to know that because it doesn't happen. He's one of a kind among college presidents. I think he might be deteriorating mentally or something. I think if anything, he gets the benefit of the doubt and this is less of a big deal because he's such a joke.

[RomaGoth]

I happen to think Gee does not deserve to be fired. I want him in Columbus forever. Give him a raise & a 24/7 open mic!

this

[RomaGoth]

Of the 7 people posting on the subject, we've got Matthean, RomaGoth, and M GO BLUE!!! And me, who doesn't count. And mckerney, who is also a rival B1G fan.

Is Gee an idiot? Sure. There are many reasons he deserves to be fired. But they are certainly not going to be in this thread commenting if this was anyone but Gee.

This has nothing to do with liking Michigan or Illinois or Iowa or any other school in the Big 10. This is all about how much of a senile old man your school president is.

[cartman]

Maybe he was still reeling from his "Little Sisters of the Poor" statements.

LSUFreek needs to do an animated gif of him and his bowtie, making it spin as a hypnotizing agent of evil.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Maybe the members of the Board of Trustees at tOSU are Michigan fans too.

Gordon Gee has 'embarrassed' Ohio State Buckeyes, trustees say - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9328980/gordon-gee-embarrassed-ohio-state-buckeyes-trustees-say)

The interesting thing about this to me is that the Board appears -- based on the March 11th date of their letter that's reference in the article -- to have taken him to task before this latest incident started making heavy headlines.

[JPhillips]

That letter is just theatre for the outside world. Any real criticisms of Gee wouldn't have been put into a letter like that. They said what they need to to appear sensitive and Gee knows he as their support.

I can only imagine how much fun it would be if every president's comments to athletic donors were aired publicly. I imagine this is pretty tame stuff.

[RomaGoth]

I can only imagine how much fun it would be if every president's comments to athletic donors were aired publicly. I imagine this is pretty tame stuff.

True, and I wonder how much fun it would be if more universities had Orville Redenbacher as their president.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

True, and I wonder how much fun it would be if more universities had Orville Redenbacher as their president.

Please don't insult the popcorn gods.

[RomaGoth]

Please don't insult the popcorn gods.

My apologies. :(

[molson]

I can only imagine how much fun it would be if every president's comments to athletic donors were aired publicly. I imagine this is pretty tame stuff.

Sure, but every other person of that position knows his environment and knows when to act like a president. On the golf course with 3 big donors, I'm sure plenty say much worse stuff. At an official university meeting attended by students and professors, every other president has the ability to act like a president. Even the snark about bashing the academics of other schools, it's just beneath that position. It makes Ohio St. seem lower rent. It's also kind of weird to have a college president who is so openly into the athletic program, who talks like a sports talk radio host or frat boy superfan. After Penn St. and the NCAA's current meltdown, I think a president should be a little more distant from the athletic program as not to emphasize so much that sports are the only thing that matters at the school.

Edit: How many college presidents could you identify? I could only identify one, this guy, and I have no connection to any Big 10 school. I don't even know who my own alma mater's president is these days without looking it up. Maybe that's good for branding, I don't know, but I'm sure plenty aren't thrilled with having the goofball president that everyone knows because he's so wacky.

[RomaGoth]

Sure, but every other person of that position knows his environment and knows when to act like a president. On the golf course with 3 big donors, I'm sure plenty say much worse stuff. At an official university meeting attended by students and professors, every other president has the ability to act like a president. Even the snark about bashing the academics of other schools, it's just beneath that position. It makes Ohio St. seem lower rent. It's also kind of weird to have a college president who is so openly into the athletic program, who talks like a sports talk radio host or frat boy superfan. After Penn St. and the NCAA's current meltdown, I think a president should be a little more distant from the athletic program as not to emphasize so much that sports are the only thing that matters at the school.

To be fair, he does show up at student pep rallies and dorm pizza parties. Or so I have heard.

[RomaGoth]

So I finally just listened to the audio of Gee's statements. Wow, what an asshole. From his tone of voice, the remarks about Catholics was not meant to be funny but he later tried to bend it that way to cover his own ass. Then he went on to throw Louisville, Kentucky, the SEC, and Brent Bielema (called him a thug - WTF?) under the bus.

This guy needs to be reigned in before he finds himself in more trouble than he can get out of.

[britrock88]

To be fair, he does show up at student pep rallies and dorm pizza parties. Or so I have heard.

Well, chyeah, free pizza!

[CU Tiger]

Gee's comments are offensive, insensitive and at least 3 layers below his title dictates.

He's a blow hard, old school elitist who thinks hes beyond reproach.

That said, meh.
It's Ohio State...he fits in

[JPhillips]

Sure, but every other person of that position knows his environment and knows when to act like a president. On the golf course with 3 big donors, I'm sure plenty say much worse stuff. At an official university meeting attended by students and professors, every other president has the ability to act like a president. Even the snark about bashing the academics of other schools, it's just beneath that position. It makes Ohio St. seem lower rent. It's also kind of weird to have a college president who is so openly into the athletic program, who talks like a sports talk radio host or frat boy superfan. After Penn St. and the NCAA's current meltdown, I think a president should be a little more distant from the athletic program as not to emphasize so much that sports are the only thing that matters at the school.

Edit: How many college presidents could you identify? I could only identify one, this guy, and I have no connection to any Big 10 school. I don't even know who my own alma mater's president is these days without looking it up. Maybe that's good for branding, I don't know, but I'm sure plenty aren't thrilled with having the goofball president that everyone knows because he's so wacky.

He was rehired largely because of his work/affinity for athletics. OSU got exactly what they were after, top football and basketball teams and improved athletic facilities. I don't think that's what OSU should value in a president, but they don't seem to care about my opinion. I just think the board's "disciplining" of Gee is mostly for PR cover. If they were really unhappy with him they'd fire him, but overall he's done exactly what they wanted.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Gee's comments are offensive, insensitive and at least 3 layers below his title dictates.

He's a blow hard, old school elitist who thinks hes beyond reproach.

That said, meh.
It's Ohio State...he fits in

TRUTH

[Matthean]

Glad all the Michigan fans are finding some way to fill their summer.

Women's team in the softball tournament. #1 recruiting class in football so far with potentially more to come. Highest average in all sports in terms of standings in the Big Ten with 5 titles and two national titles. Yeah, Michigan fans are really looking to fill their summer.

[Butter]

Women's team in the softball tournament. #1 recruiting class in football so far with potentially more to come. Highest average in all sports in terms of standings in the Big Ten with 5 titles and two national titles. Yeah, Michigan fans are really looking to fill their summer.

Women's softball, shit. You really put me in my place.

[Kodos]

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t446/KodosForPrez/Helmets_zps0ebd2c5b.png (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/KodosForPrez/media/Helmets_zps0ebd2c5b.png.html)

IU unveiled a bunch of helmet designs yesterday. The candy-striped one is chrome...

Give me the Block I, please. The second from the right is the state flag for Indiana.

Here's a closer look at the chrome monstrosity. I hope we aren't turning into Oregon.

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t446/KodosForPrez/Helmets2_zps9dc2c7d5.png (http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/KodosForPrez/media/Helmets2_zps9dc2c7d5.png.html)

[BYU 14]

The chrome is horrid, but I like the helmet with the number on the side, has a nice old school look to it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Dear Lord, that chrome is hideous.

It looks like somebody stuck a Christmas candy on his head.

[Matthean]

There's a video of the unveiling and you kind of have to feel sorry for the guy who got the chrome helmet. You can tell he really doesn't want to be wearing it and then he goes out and gets a lukewarm reception at best.

[Kodos]

Actually, it seems like the chrome one was the most popular with the team. I personally think it is awful.

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[RendeR]

dola

And to follow up on my above statements, I am Catholic and not particularly offended by what he said at all. However, I do get tired of the double-standard that is thrown around in public discourse; some things are ok to say and some aren't, it just depends on the mood of society and who is in political office at the time. If it is a jerky thing to say then don't say it, regardless of who thinks it's funny or "not a big deal".


Really? "double standard"? You want to go down THAT road defending Catholics? They invented the fucking term.

Was he insulting Catholics? Perhaps, but then again what he says has been shown to be true over time. Every Catholic is a paragon of virtue on Sunday, they're all too typically human the rest of the time. Is it wrong to state an obvious truth?

The jab at the SEC is probably far more insulting as some SEC schools have fantastic academic histories, that's more of a competitor's jab than anything reality based.

What it really boils down to is that no matter anyone's position, we're all human beings. We have every right to act and do as we please. People in turn have every right to be offended. Doesn't give you me or anyone else the right to affect anyone's life over it.

Everyone has the right to BE offended. Embrace it and stop crying about what "that old dude said about my school/religion/conference!!!"


Fucking crybabies.

[Kodos]

I guess there is speculation that the chrome one will be used in night games. I hope it's not at the Mizzou game, as I am likely to be at that game. Give me the classic Block I.

[Butter]

It looks like somebody stuck a Christmas candy on his head.

"Son, you've got a panty on your head."

[RendeR]

Actually, it seems like the chrome one was the most popular with the team. I personally think it is awful.




Chrome stripes is hideous, I actually kinda like the state flag design. It catches your attention.

[RomaGoth]

Really? "double standard"? You want to go down THAT road defending Catholics? They invented the fucking term.

Was he insulting Catholics? Perhaps, but then again what he says has been shown to be true over time. Every Catholic is a paragon of virtue on Sunday, they're all too typically human the rest of the time. Is it wrong to state an obvious truth?

The jab at the SEC is probably far more insulting as some SEC schools have fantastic academic histories, that's more of a competitor's jab than anything reality based.

What it really boils down to is that no matter anyone's position, we're all human beings. We have every right to act and do as we please. People in turn have every right to be offended. Doesn't give you me or anyone else the right to affect anyone's life over it.

Everyone has the right to BE offended. Embrace it and stop crying about what "that old dude said about my school/religion/conference!!!"


Fucking crybabies.

Ah yes rendeR being rendeR.

[JonInMiddleGA]

What it really boils down to is that no matter anyone's position, we're all human beings. We have every right to act and do as we please. People in turn have every right to be offended.

You were doing okay right up until ...

Doesn't give you me or anyone else the right to affect anyone's life over it.

(the royal) I have every right to respond to an offense as I see fit. That follows right along with everything else you said up to that point.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I guess there is speculation that the chrome one will be used in night games. I hope it's not at the Mizzou game, as I am likely to be at that game. Give me the classic Block I.

Been considering road-tripping for that game along with some of my STL friends. I know a lot of Mizzou fans have been snapping up tickets for that game, so it should be a fun atmosphere.

Any tailgating at the games at IU?

[Kodos]

Been considering road-tripping for that game along with some of my STL friends. I know a lot of Mizzou fans have been snapping up tickets for that game, so it should be a fun atmosphere.

Any tailgating at the games at IU?

Definitely. Although I have not been to a game at IU since 1994 or so. Kickoff is a 8 p.m., just in case you weren't aware.

[dawgfan]

Women's softball, shit. You really put me in my place.
It's actually pretty damn entertaining to watch, which you might know already if Ohio State weren't so decidedly mediocre at it.

[MrBug708]

Softball is 100x more entertaining than baseball is on the college level.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

It's actually pretty damn entertaining to watch, which you might know already if Ohio State weren't so decidedly mediocre at it.

Softball is very popular right now. The NCAA softball games on the ESPN networks are outdrawing the NHL playoff games by a 2:1 or even 3:1 margin when up against each other.

[britrock88]

Softball is very popular right now. The NCAA softball games on the ESPN networks are outdrawing the NHL playoff games by a 2:1 or even 3:1 margin when up against each other.

Agree with the sentiment. At the same time, wouldn't ya think that some of that advantage is due to the bars that have a TV tuned in to ESPN at all times?

[Young Drachma]

All of that damn singing they do is annoying.

[digamma]

Softball is very popular right now. The NCAA softball games on the ESPN networks are outdrawing the NHL playoff games by a 2:1 or even 3:1 margin when up against each other.

Funny someone once told me:

If you're interested in talking about women's diving, golf, and softball, go right ahead. With all due respect to those other sports, 99% of the general population couldn't give a flying rip about anything outside of the big two sports.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Agree with the sentiment. At the same time, wouldn't ya think that some of that advantage is due to the bars that have a TV tuned in to ESPN at all times?

I don't believe that to be the reason. But if it is, how sad is it that those bars don't turn on the NHL playoffs on the other screens?

Funny someone once told me:

Which is generally still true. You're still playing to the 1%, but there is 1% to be had. The exposure produced by the conference networks helps somewhat.

[Young Drachma]

I don't believe that to be the reason. But if it is, how sad is it that those bars don't turn on the NHL playoffs on the other screens?

Most bars just default to what's on ESPN unless someone asks.

[dawgfan]

One of the perks (to me) of the Pac-12 Networks is I get a lot more exposure to sports that didn't get a lot of airtime previously. While softball gets the WCWS on ESPN, regular-season games were hard to come by. Now those and volleyball get plenty of airtime, and it's fun stuff to watch. I'm actually kind of surprised Volleyball doesn't get more draw than it does - it's athletic as hell, fast, and to be caveman here, there's usually a lot of attractive ladies involved.

As the father of a daughter, I'm optimistic that women's sports will continue to make gains in exposure and popularity in the coming years, and if she turns out to be athletically inclined, she'll have more options available to her to pursue sports.

[Lathum]

Most bars just default to what's on ESPN unless someone asks.

This. And tbh the NHL games are hard to find. I know what channel espn is.

[Lathum]

Obligatory fuck the PAC 12 network and direct tv post.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

This. And tbh the NHL games are hard to find. I know what channel espn is.

The networks that each sport are on are a direct correlation to how popular they are. If the NHL was drawing well, it would still have a ESPN package. It doesn't, so it was moved down the pecking order. I like hockey, but it's a lousy sport to watch on TV.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Ohio State's Gordon Gee to retire in wake of controversy - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9342172/ohio-state-gordon-gee-retire-wake-controversy)

[Kodos]

Up close and personal!

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[cuervo72]

All of that damn singing they do is annoying.

I would say this about soccer broadcasts, too. And any time fans sing along to Zombie Nation, etc. HATE IT.

[digamma]

The networks that each sport are on are a direct correlation to how popular they are. If the NHL was drawing well, it would still have a ESPN package. It doesn't, so it was moved down the pecking order. I like hockey, but it's a lousy sport to watch on TV.

Wait. Hold on. If ESPN could pay what it is paying for the rights to the WCWS (and a bunch of other packaged NCAA sports) for hockey, I guarantee you it would.

[cuervo72]

The networks that each sport are on are a direct correlation to how popular they are. If the NHL was drawing well, it would still have a ESPN package. It doesn't, so it was moved down the pecking order. I like hockey, but it's a lousy sport to watch on TV.

Case in point: the WNBA! It's on ESPN, so it must be good. And popular!

[CraigSca]

Softball is very popular right now. The NCAA softball games on the ESPN networks are outdrawing the NHL playoff games by a 2:1 or even 3:1 margin when up against each other.

My wife's cousin bats leadoff for Tennessee, so we obviously have a rooting interest, but the games themselves have been great. The exposure of college softball has played a part in increasing my daughter's interest in the sport - she is now playing travel ball as a 12 year old. It's been a great experience for her (and us) and has gone a long way in developing her as an athlete.

[Kodos]

http://www.indystar.com/article/20130604/SPORTS0601/306040086/Hoosiers-join-trend-multiple-helmets?nclick_check=1

Quick article about how IU came up with the various helmet ideas.

[Eaglesfan27]

DT Delvon Simmons is transferring to USC.

[Matthean]

Alabama on APR honor roll of 13 FBS teams - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9346303/alabama-apr-honor-roll-13-fbs-teams)

[nol]

Case in point: the WNBA! It's on ESPN, so it must be good. And popular!

From ESPN's standpoint, the WNBA and packaged NCAA sports are just part of the cost of securing deals with the NBA and big-time college hoops/football. The NBA deal as a whole would probably still be profitable if the WNBA games pulled a 0.0 Nielsen rating.

[MrBug708]

So Notre Dame denied Eddie Vanderdoes' LOI request and the NLI group upheld the appeal.

Coming out that he Grandmother has gotten pretty sick and wants to be closer to home.

I think the more that comes out about the story, the worse Notre Dame will look, though I feel he'll be let go once he enrolls at UCLA officially

[Matthean]

It's not like ND is preventing him from going home. I still think ND sticks to their intentions.

[MrBug708]

It's not like ND is preventing him from going home. I still think ND sticks to their intentions.

As a Michigan fan, you would like that for Notre Dame. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Don't know how true it is, but I've read that ND and FSU are getting a lot of pressure from other schools not to let Vanderdoes or Thomas out of their LOI for fear of creating precedent.

[MrBug708]

It's not really precedent to allow someone out of their LOI to be closer to a sick relative. It happens all the time. Most of the pressure was before it was announced as a sick grandmother.

[dawgfan]

It's not really precedent to allow someone out of their LOI to be closer to a sick relative. It happens all the time. Most of the pressure was before it was announced as a sick grandmother.
Here's the thing though - Notre Dame isn't preventing him from being much closer to his sick grandmother. He's already enrolled at UCLA. And unless I'm misreading the situation, all that's happening is that he'll be forced to use his redshirt this year since Notre Dame won't release him from his LOI.

Am I missing something?

[Chief Rum]

Here's the thing though - Notre Dame isn't preventing him from being much closer to his sick grandmother. He's already enrolled at UCLA. And unless I'm misreading the situation, all that's happening is that he'll be forced to use his redshirt this year since Notre Dame won't release him from his LOI.

Am I missing something?

Technically, he isn't enrolled yet. I think summer classes start on June 16 (next Monday), and it may not even matter then until he attends his first class, whenever that is (presumeably sometime next week).

He doesn't lose his redshirt year; he loses a year of eligiblity. This season can't be used as a redshirt year where he still would have four years to play four. If Notre Dame doesn't release him from the LOI, he will have four years to play three.

So the penalty is a little sharper than having to redshirt.

[Eaglesfan27]

Technically, he isn't enrolled yet. I think summer classes start on June 16 (next Monday), and it may not even matter then until he attends his first class, whenever that is (presumeably sometime next week).

He doesn't lose his redshirt year; he loses a year of eligiblity. This season can't be used as a redshirt year where he still would have four years to play four. If Notre Dame doesn't release him from the LOI, he will have four years to play three.

So the penalty is a little sharper than having to redshirt.


Yep. LOI penalties are stricter than just transferring once enrolled. Although a guy with his potential is only a 3 year guy anyway.

[dawgfan]

He doesn't lose his redshirt year; he loses a year of eligiblity. This season can't be used as a redshirt year where he still would have four years to play four. If Notre Dame doesn't release him from the LOI, he will have four years to play three.

So the penalty is a little sharper than having to redshirt.
Ah, OK - yeah, that's a little harsh that he'd lose a year of eligibility.

[Atocep]

:D

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Georgia Tech has announced the departure of pbp voice Wes Durham after 18 seasons, as he accepts an offer (unspecified) to work "television across the region".

I wish the guy nothing but the best, he's been awesome afaic & in one of broadcasting's tougher spots (following a legend in Al Ciraldo)

[digamma]

Indeed.

Got to have lunch with Wes a few times when I interned in the GT athletic office for a summer. He was the same off the air as on and a lot of fun. Loved listening to him.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Boy, big improvements on the hill at Mizzou. Here's the before picture of the 'M'.....

http://www.komu.com/images/news/sports_mizzou_faurot_field.jpg

New 'M' has been framed out with concrete. Also much closer to the field.....

http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/william_morgan2/Facebook/ATT%20Locker%20Uploads/1014740_10101520610132060_1182900603_o.jpg

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

dola

Looks like the SEC got several of its affiliated bowl games to reduce the required allotment for schools.

Gators took financial bath in Sugar Bowl loss | CollegeFootballTalk (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/12/gators-took-financial-bath-in-sugar-bowl-loss/)

[CU Tiger]

Boy, big improvements on the hill at Mizzou. Here's the before picture of the 'M'.....

http://www.komu.com/images/news/sports_mizzou_faurot_field.jpg

New 'M' has been framed out with concrete. Also much closer to the field.....

http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/william_morgan2/Facebook/ATT%20Locker%20Uploads/1014740_10101520610132060_1182900603_o.jpg

But where will te fans sit?
On the concrete?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

But where will te fans sit?
On the concrete?

Yes actually. On days when there's a sellout and the grass is full, the rest of the GA ticket holders sit on the rocks. Below is an example from a Nebraska game a few years ago. You'll see the top half of the 'M' isn't visible. Only reason the bottom half of the 'M' is visible is because they had temporary bleachers next to the end zone, blocking the view from the bottom half of the 'M'. That won't be the case anymore. There's no need to use the temporary bleachers now that the hill has been moved next to the end zone.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/184476/09_NU_live.jpg

[CU Tiger]

I know just poking fun...

HIll seats are great for students...my knees wouldnt last a quarter standing on an incline these days.

[Logan]

Wasn't there a Wash St fan or two who used to post around here? Can't remember seeing them for a while...

Anyway, Rutgers and WSU just finalized a two game series for 2014 and 2015. The 2014 game will be the season opener and will take place in Seattle. It's a city I've never been to and have always wanted to check out, might make the trip.

[Chief Rum]

Wasn't there a Wash St fan or two who used to post around here? Can't remember seeing them for a while...

Anyway, Rutgers and WSU just finalized a two game series for 2014 and 2015. The 2014 game will be the season opener and will take place in Seattle. It's a city I've never been to and have always wanted to check out, might make the trip.

WSUCougar

[dawgfan]

Wasn't there a Wash St fan or two who used to post around here? Can't remember seeing them for a while...

Anyway, Rutgers and WSU just finalized a two game series for 2014 and 2015. The 2014 game will be the season opener and will take place in Seattle. It's a city I've never been to and have always wanted to check out, might make the trip.
WSUCougar used to be pretty active around here but his posting is a lot more sporadic now.

Seattle is very nice in September - weather is almost always sunny and high '70's/low '80's early in the month. CLink is a great stadium, and it's situated at the south end of downtown right next to the historic Pioneer Square district and a short walk to the waterfront and a slightly longer walk up to the Pike Place Market and the shopping district of downtown. If you can swing it, I'm sure you'd have fun.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Pretty cool story with a great reaction photo......

Georgia quarterback Aaron Murray surprises, thrills 96-year-old Bulldogs fan | Dr. Saturday - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/georgia-quarterback-aaron-murray-surprises-thrills-96-old-162858740.html)

[CU Tiger]

Its been kept fairly hush as not to glorify idiots, but a significant piece of Howard's Rock was chiseled off and stolen earlier this month. The first arrest was made this morning with two more pending.

18 year old idiot who calls himself a fan and wanted a piece for his bedroom,...

[BishopMVP]

Didn't realize Charles Sims had transferred to West Virginia. That's a great pickup for them.

[Eaglesfan27]

UCLA's associate AD resigns while facing child internet porn investigation:

Report: UCLA associate AD Michael Sondheimer resigns amid misconduct allegations - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/ucla-associate-athletic-director-michael-sondheimer-resigns-amid-child-internet-conduct-allegations-070213)

[Swaggs]

Didn't realize Charles Sims had transferred to West Virginia. That's a great pickup for them.

I'm cautiously optimistic on this one, too.

If he is healthy all season, I could see him having 50-75 receptions out of the backfield and slot in Holgorson's offense.

[MrBug708]

UCLA's associate AD resigns while facing child internet porn investigation:

Report: UCLA associate AD Michael Sondheimer resigns amid misconduct allegations - College Basketball News | FOX Sports on MSN (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/ucla-associate-athletic-director-michael-sondheimer-resigns-amid-child-internet-conduct-allegations-070213)

Not sure how this relates to college football, but at least you get to toss in child molestation and UCLA in the same subject line. At least bother to read the article before throwing stuff out there.

In other news (see?)

Walter Lee Williams, Former USC Professor On FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives List, Arrested In Mexico (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/walter-lee-williams-arrested_n_3464469.html)

[Eaglesfan27]

Not sure how this relates to college football, but at least you get to toss in child molestation and UCLA in the same subject line. At least bother to read the article before throwing stuff out there.

In other news (see?)

Walter Lee Williams, Former USC Professor On FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives List, Arrested In Mexico (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/walter-lee-williams-arrested_n_3464469.html)

Don't be obtuse.

[MrBug708]

If that is what you have..

[molson]

College football fandom, where news of child molestation and porn provokes great glee in those looking to jab cross-town rivals.

[Swaggs]

WVU and Virginia Tech announced a future football series today: http://www.register-herald.com/todayssportsfront/x1614268093/WVU-VT-to-renew-football-series

[MrBug708]

College football fandom, where news of child molestation and porn provokes great glee in those looking to jab cross-town rivals.

+1

It's kind of sad

[Eaglesfan27]

No glee, most of my career is focused on helping abused children. I was just pointing out an issue that may affect the football team as he was fairly high up in their athletic department infrastructure.

[MrBug708]

No glee, most of my career is focused on helping abused children. I was just pointing out an issue that may affect the football team as he was fairly high up in their athletic department infrastructure.

He doesnt have anything to do with the football team. He works in an administrative role dealing with non-revenue sports at UCLA. This isn't USC where everyone has a hand in football 24/7.

I bet you didn't know that he was an Olympic Volleyball official as well. Why not find a wayward Olympic and/or Volleyball thread and post it there? Oh wait, because that doesn't have much to do with taking a shot at UCLA, even if it uses something deplorable like this. I'm surprised that you didnt' just compare it to the Penn State situation while you are at it.

I hope he rots in jail.

[JonInMiddleGA]

College football fandom, where news of child molestation and porn provokes great glee in those looking to jab cross-town rivals.

Meh.

You either hate a rival or you don't, pretty much simple as that.

[Lathum]

He doesnt have anything to do with the football team. He works in an administrative role dealing with non-revenue sports at UCLA. This isn't USC where everyone has a hand in football 24/7.

I bet you didn't know that he was an Olympic Volleyball official as well. Why not find a wayward Olympic and/or Volleyball thread and post it there? Oh wait, because that doesn't have much to do with taking a shot at UCLA, even if it uses something deplorable like this. I'm surprised that you didnt' just compare it to the Penn State situation while you are at it.

I hope he rots in jail.

You seem to be taking this very personally. I hate it when something bad comes up about my alma mater, but this seems as good a thread as any to post that story. And it's not like EF27 is a troller.

[MrBug708]

Admittedly had most any other person posted it, I [probably wouldn't have the same reaction. And he can troll when it comes to UCLA. The stuff he posted show laziness in what the article said which makes me think he saw a thread, copied the article and posted it here without reading it.