WW CLVIII - The Princess Bride Returns (Game Over: Wolves Win!!!)

[EagleFan]

Bringing back a previous game, The Princess Bride. The first time we didn't get enough players to run this at its fullest. Hopefully this time we get a full roster and all roles can be utilized.

I am away Wednesday and Thursday this week so we will go for a 3/25 day one.

Please let me know if there are any issues with playing on Good Friday. If there are issues we will just have 4 days next week and take a three day weekend.

[EagleFan]

Rules

Teams

Village - Basic Villagers as in any game of werewolf.

Wolves - Basic Wolves as in any game of werewolf.

Voting

- Votes must be in bold to count.
- The player with the most votes at the end of the day will be lynched.
- Roles revealed upon lynching.

Posting

- No quoting from PM's which have been sent by me. If a PM is a response to a question about the game I will also post that response in thread for everyone to see.
- No personal attacks, keep it friendly.
- Once a player is killed (lynched or night killed) they may not post in thread about anything game related.

Deadline

- 10 PM EST Weeknights.
- One deadline for both day and night actions.
- Night actions may be submitted with a conditional but it must be a specific conditional (ex: the wolves can't say "if someone reveals as the seer then kill him"). If there are any questions if the conditional is okay, please ask.
- 10:00 timestamp on a post or PM = valid; 10:01 and later will not be accepted.

Tie Vote

- 1st tie vote will result in a random killing of one of the players that voted for someone other than the players who were tied (example: if I was tied with Lathum for the vote a random player who did not vote for either Lathum or I will be lynched).
- 2nd tie vote will result in multiple random killings. One player who voted for each of the tied players will be lynched (example: if I was tied with Lathum for the vote a random player who voted for me will be lynched and a random player who voted for Lathum will be lynched).
- 3rd tie vote will result in everyone being lynched and I will be declared the winner. Seriously, if you have three votes result in a tie in one game do you really deserve to win?

Win Conditions

- Village wins if they eliminate all wolves.
- Wolves win by eliminating all villagers (once they reach a 1:1 ratio they will lash out and eliminate the remaining villager(s)).

Roles

- The number of players that sign up will determine what roles are used.
- If there are unused roles the wolves will be told of one role that is not in the game.
- Only roles which are published in the roles posting will be in the game, no hidden roles (there may be hidden win conditions).

Items

- Only items described in the item section will be in the game.
- Item abilities will be clearly defined.
- Items may be passed to other players.
- On day one players may select one item. Only one of each will exist. I will use random.org to select which player who requested and item will actually receive it. There is one exception to this rule, the holocaust cloak will start with Miracle Max and he may select one player to give the cloak to by the day 2 deadline.
- To be in the running for an item players must select that item on day one by the deadline. Use the same mechanic as the voting mechanic but use the phrase Select (Item Name). The winner of that item will be selected from the pool of players that selected the item. Miracle Max may select an item as he has to give away the cloak.

[EagleFan]

Roles

Westley - Villager role. He is equally skilled and intelligent. His ability to beat skill, strength and brains make him a very formidable player. He will have the seer role and may select one person each night to scan. Additionally he may protect himself one time during the game.

Inigo Montoya - Villager role. His skill with the sword has developed over the years as he searched for the 6 fingered man. Revenge shall be his and he can search for the 6 fingered man. He has the duke abilities in this game and may once during the game change the result of the lynch.

Fezzik - Villager role. His strength is second to none. He has the bodyguard role. He may select someone to protect each night. He may self protect. He may not protect the same person on consecutive nights.

Princess Buttercup - Villager role. A vision of beauty, we can only assume. She has a passive role in this game. If she is either lynched or night killed the wolves gain a 50% chance of a random conversion.

Miracle Max - Villager role. Each night he may select a player to attempt to bring back from the dead (protect). If that player happens to be Westley and is night killed that night the kill will be blocked. If that player is any other character and is night killed that night, Max will be killed in his place.

Grandpa - Villager Role. As he tells us this story he may decide if we need to skip ahead in the story. This power will allow him to negate a day. He may submit this action prior to the deadline. After the lynch is announced the game will be interupted by his grandson and he will begin telling the story again. The lynched player will remain alive and no wolf action that night.

Dread Pirate Roberts - Neutral Role. Will have his own win condition.

Vizzini - Wolf Role. Hired by Prince Humperdink to kidnap and kill the princess. He may scan for Inigo, Westley and Fezzik. If found he may steal their ability for a day (but only if they are still alive). He is easiy fooled; though he finds that inconceivable.

Prince Humperdink - Wolf role. Though a coward at heart the prince is the leader of the wolves. He must find the Princess and have her killed. He may scan one player each night to see if that person is the princess.

Count Rugen - Wolf role. This man is ruthless and will kill anyone who gets in his way and is not expecting it. He has the brutal role and will take one defenseles villager to the grave with him when (if) he is lynched.

The Albino - Wolf role. One time during the game he may imprison a player the following day. No matter how that player votes he may change the vote (example: if I am the albino and choose to imprison Lathum for day 2 no matter what Lathum votes I may tell myself to change that vote to another player). It will not be known whose vote was changed when announcing results.

The Clergyman - Wolf role. While it looks like he is bumbling his way through services and seems to not like the Prince, he is truly evil at heart (though few cansee that). He has the cunning role. If scanned he will scan as a villager.

ROUS - Optional Rogue Wolf Role. No PM rights but will have a one time night kill ability. Will not know who the other wolves are but may select a player to sniff to determine if that player is a wolf. One problem is that the cunning will even come back as villager to this scan as well.

Items

Holocaust Cloak - One time use. Will protect the wearer from harm that night (and the next day). If the player submits a request to wear it on day one that player will not be able to be night killed and will not be lynched the next day. If the player is the leading vote getter for lynching that day the second vote getter will be lynched instead. If that causes a tie the tie mechanics will kick in.

Wheelbarrow - One time use. Can be used as part of a ploy to frighten the target. The target will be unable to perform a night action that night or vote the following day. The target may still post and will be informed that the item was used against him.

Iocane Powder - Odorless and tasteless, but one of the deadliest poisons known to man. If the holder of this item is lynched he may challenge one person who voted for him to a battle of wits. The one who drinks poison will be killed. If the original lynch target (the holder of the powder) survives his role/allegiance will still be announced.

[EagleFan]

Signups

1) britrock88 - vanilla villager (day 5 lynch)
2) Danny - vanilla villager (day 4 iocane victim)
3) Narcizo - Grandpa (night 6 kill)
4) JAG - Westley (night 4 shredding)
5) fontisian
6) Autumn - Dread Pirate Roberts (night 2 kill)
7) Coffee Warlord - vanilla villager (night 5 kill)
8) KatyLied - vanilla villager (day 6 brutal)
9) murrayyyyy
10) Julio Riddols
11) Lathum - Count Rugen (day 6 lynch)
12) Chief Rum - Princess Buttercup (night 4 kill)
13) The Jackal - Prince Humperdink (day 4 lynch)
14) Zinto
15) mauchow
16) DaddyTorgo - vanilla villager (day 3 lynch)
17) path12 - vanilla villager (day 2 lynch)
18) PackerFanatic
19) DQ BOY1000 - Fezzik (Night 3 kill)

[EagleFan]

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[britrock88]

One week break? Perfect. In.

DQ, Katy -- movie night? :)

[EagleFan]

One week break? Perfect. In.

DQ, Katy -- movie night? :)

I thought the other game was going to finish mid week this week so was planning on posting signups Monday night. Then I saw the game was over aready, that was fast.

[Julio Riddols]

I like the sound of this.

[Danny]

In

[Narcizo]

In but I won't have an internet connection on Good Friday.

You might need to change the Dread Pirate Roberts role somewhat. Really hope you can get enough players to use all the roles.

[JAG]

In.

[fontisian]

In.

[Autumn]

In

[Coffee Warlord]

I am intrigued, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[KatyLied]

One week break? Perfect. In.

DQ, Katy -- movie night? :)

I'm in, too.

Also in on a movie night - I've never actually seen this movie start to finish - only through random clips. For the record, I wouldn't mind revisiting Ghostbusters, either. I have a weird Harold Ramis thing.

[JAG]

Pretty funny that we're on our third straight 80s movie theme. I think Autumn will finally break up that trend unless he's breaking out Back to the Future for his next game.

[Autumn]

Pretty funny that we're on our third straight 80s movie theme. I think Autumn will finally break up that trend unless he's breaking out Back to the Future for his next game.

Damnit!

[murrayyyyy]

Is this were Danny is allowed to use "and Andre re-enters the ring" properly?

In but Sat play deadline is out for me with a fantasy baseball draft I said I could do for someone. Actually this week will suck for all deadlines. March Madness on also.

[Lathum]

Is this were Danny is allowed to use "and Andre re-enters the ring" properly?

In but Sat play deadline is out for me with a fantasy baseball draft I said I could do for someone. Actually this week will suck for all deadlines. March Madness on also.

game starts on the 25th

[EagleFan]

I like the sound of this.

Is that an "In"?

[Danny]

Regardless of my actual role, I am going to play as Fezzik

[EagleFan]

Nice start to the signups. I would love to be able to use all the roles in this one. Could make for a very interesting game (I hope). :)

[EagleFan]

Regardless of my actual role, I am going to play as Fezzik

Way to get your self night killed day one. :)

[Lathum]

sure, why not

[Chief Rum]

Back from vacay, so I'm in.

[The Jackal]

I will give it a shot. There might be some days when I can only check in once or twice, but I will do my best. :)

[Zinto]

I am in

[mauchow]

Innnn-concievable!

[murrayyyyy]

Innnn-concievable!

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm so in.

[EagleFan]

Sweet, really nice to see the signups buzzing like this. We went through quite a bit of downtime for a while there and thought we were on our last legs.

[Danny]

Sweet, really nice to see the signups buzzing like this. We went through quite a bit of downtime for a while there and thought we were on our last legs.

Nothing can stop the WW

[EagleFan]

Nothing can stop the WW

Much like the love that you and CR share? ;)

[Autumn]

We can't stall now. Where's the rest?

[EagleFan]

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Added the spoiler tag for those who haven't seen the movie yet.

[path12]

It's busy next week but I'll play.

[PackerFanatic]

Added the spoiler tag for those who haven't seen the movie yet.

They deserve to be spoiled if they haven't seen this classic!

[PackerFanatic]

Alright I am in.

[PackerFanatic]

Well I am happy to have killed the thread, lol.

[Danny]

I hope Packer is a wolf again, so we can lynch him again. Actually no though, you have done a good job not picking the players I have wanted since the first few rounds, so I am not mad at you anymore.

[JAG]

I will do my best. :)

Will you wear your vest?

[PackerFanatic]

I hope Packer is a wolf again, so we can lynch him again. Actually no though, you have done a good job not picking the players I have wanted since the first few rounds, so I am not mad at you anymore.

Quiet you. I am a terrible wolf - partially the fact that I hardly ever am, and partially the fact that I am just a terrible liar, lol

[The Jackal]

Will you wear your vest?

Certainly I'll be a pest

[JAG]

Certainly I'll be a pest

It's what you do best.

[Autumn]

It's what you do best.

Let's put that to the test.

[britrock88]

Let's put that to the test.

Won't DQ Boy join the rest?

[KatyLied]

Won't DQ Boy join the rest?

I've tried to peer pressure him once. I'm not such a big fan of aloof.

[Coffee Warlord]

Fail. Surely you jest.

[Danny]

I just decided that if I ever decided to quit WW, I am going to go back and edit all of my games so that I win before giving up moderator power. I may edit some select posts by individuals as well.

[DQ_BOY1000]

Okay I will play!


CAN I BE THE GIANT PWLEEEAAASSSEEEE!!!!!

[Autumn]

I just decided that if I ever decided to quit WW, I am going to go back and edit all of my games so that I win before giving up moderator power. I may edit some select posts by individuals as well.

Whose bright idea was it to let Danny be moderator?

[PackerFanatic]

Whose bright idea was it to let Danny be moderator?

Nobody that knows him from WW :)

[Chief Rum]

Heh... I think he got that when BK stepped down, and it was a particularly dead time for WW. No one else wanted to step up and take it, so Danny manned up.

We have been regretting it ever since! Lol... (j/k Danny!)

[Danny]

Whose bright idea was it to let Danny be moderator?

I've been moderator for two years now. To quote futurama "when you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"

[Danny]

I take that back, its been 3 and a half years now, wow

[Danny]

Whose bright idea was it to let Danny be moderator?

And you're just jealous you didn't get any votes ;)

Vote for Your New WW Moderator - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=74954)

[Autumn]

AlanT, Hoops, clap, Lathum. I've been getting rid of you bastards one by one. It would have worked too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids.

[Autumn]

And Hoops and Lathum coming back.

[Lathum]

how on earth did I get 4 votes for that?

[The Jackal]

how on earth did I get 4 votes for that?

We pulled your name from a hat

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[EagleFan]

This game needs to Fox!!!! Write your congressman!!!

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[Narcizo]

It's busy next week but I'll play.

Yay! I'm not the oldest person in a game! :)

[Narcizo]

We pulled your name from a hat

I prefer "We thought it was a lynch vote".

[Narcizo]

Double Dola. Important that I get my post total up before the game starts in case I'm a wolf and have to play UTR.

[Danny]

If I am seer, I am scanning narc night 1.

[EagleFan]

Going to try to make one last push to get players. Would love to get another 6 players so we can use all the roles. If not I may combine a couple roles.

[The Jackal]

I prefer "We thought it was a lynch vote".

Clearly you missed the boat

[hoopsguy]

That ended on a sour note.

[EagleFan]

Which is clearly what he wrote.

[Narcizo]

You guys are starting to get my goat.

[hoopsguy]

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[The Jackal]

My ears, they have been smote!

[hoopsguy]

This is clearly posting bloat.

[path12]

Yay! I'm not the oldest person in a game! :)

VOTE NARCIZ-OAT

[EagleFan]

I like this one...

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[Chief Rum]

Someone remind me. When do we start again? :)

[EagleFan]

I will start sending out roles shortly. Just trying to even things out a bit with the numbers that we have.

[EagleFan]

Not all roles will be used. The wolves will know of one villager role not in use.

[Lathum]

Not all roles will be used. The wolves will know of one villager role not in use.

i bet it is Fezzik just to piss Danny off

[EagleFan]

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[Danny]

Is the game on or we still waiting?

[EagleFan]

The book opens and our story has begun...

Let the fencing, fighting, torture, revenge, giants, monsters, chases, escapes, true love and miracles begin!!!!!!

[EagleFan]

Day 1 deadline Monday at 10 PM EST.

[Danny]

AND ANDRE THE GIANT RE-ENTERS THE RING!!!!

[The Jackal]

DING DING DING

[The Jackal]

(I will probably be fairly inactive tomorrow between work and then passover dinner with family, FYI)

[Narcizo]

Hello. How is everyone doing?

[Lathum]

wife and I have a birthing refresher class tomorrow night so I will not be around in the evening.

[Narcizo]

That will be all the exciting, enlightening insights you shall be getting from me.

[The Jackal]

That will be all the exciting, enlightening insights you shall be getting from me.

But why, wisdom sets you free!

[Narcizo]

vote mauchow

Congrats on the last game.

[JAG]

I'm not a wolf, yippee!

[Narcizo]

But why, wisdom sets you free!

That is something I just can't seem to see.

[JAG]

Vote britrock

[JAG]

Unvote britrock

Just kidding. Even though it's been good luck two games in a row, that's just unfair to me.

Vote KatyLied

She seems to only get engaged when she's getting voted, so let's get her engaged early.

[JAG]

Select Wheelbarrow

I think that's the more dangerous item for the wolves to have if they get lucky enough to win one. Iocane could be annoying in their hands too, but that's a 50-50 chance to work whereas the wheelbarrow is guaranteed to work and easier for them to use against whomever they want.

[EagleFan]

As of post 99:

Lynch:
mauchow 1 - Narcizo (95)
KatyLied 1 - JAG (99)

Item:
Wheelbarrow - JAG (99)
Iocane Powder - n/a

[fontisian]

Select Wheelbarrow

I think that's the more dangerous item for the wolves to have if they get lucky enough to win one. Iocane could be annoying in their hands too, but that's a 50-50 chance to work whereas the wheelbarrow is guaranteed to work and easier for them to use against whomever they want.

Iocane powder is more useful for town and scum IMO. The wheelbarrow only really helps us in an endgame scenario, though I suppose it could be used for townfirming if we're down to one wolf.

Select Iocane powder

Ideally, it should go to a towny who has a good chance of being lynched.

[fontisian]

Dola. I'll also probably be away around deadline because of Passover.

[Danny]

select holocaust cloak

[Danny]

Easy choice for me on the items

[Danny]

vote packerfanatic

[fontisian]

Danny, the holocaust cloak automatically goes to Miracle Max.

[The Jackal]

select holocaust cloak

doesn't the cloak start with max? i guess he could be out of the game, but seems risky to bank on that. i'd probably rather see no one select the cloak so there are as many villagers as possible on the other items. then either max is giving it to a gut feel or it goes somewhere random (presumably).

actually - EF can you clarify what happens if max isn't in the game? if none of us vote for the cloak would it just go somewhere random?

select wheelbarrow

[Danny]

Maybe I am missing something, but I dont see anything about Max starting with the cloak

[Danny]

I am thinking clearly 4 wolves with the princess in the game so they have a possible shot at conversion

[Danny]

Vizini and Hunperdink seem like automatics

[Danny]

That leaves 2 out of clergymen, rugen, and Albino. Knowing Eaglefan, I think he kept the Albino in the game because its a unique role. That leaves either a brutal or cunning

[Danny]

I dont think there is anyway all 5 wolves are in the game. That would be way too much especially with princess and humperdink all but certain for story purposes.

[The Jackal]

Maybe I am missing something, but I dont see anything about Max starting with the cloak

in le rules:


- On day one players may select one item. Only one of each will exist. I will use random.org to select which player who requested and item will actually receive it. There is one exception to this rule, the holocaust cloak will start with Miracle Max and he may select one player to give the cloak to by the day 2 deadline.

[fontisian]

- On day one players may select one item. Only one of each will exist. I will use random.org to select which player who requested and item will actually receive it. There is one exception to this rule, the holocaust cloak will start with Miracle Max and he may select one player to give the cloak to by the day 2 deadline.
So, the cloak is out of the running unless Max is the excluded town role.

[The Jackal]

I dont think there is anyway all 5 wolves are in the game. That would be way too much especially with princess and humperdink all but certain for story purposes.

i agree with this, especially since the neutral roles are also both cool

[Danny]

I dont think EF would have structured things the way he did if miracle max was not in the game

[Danny]

unselect holocaust cloak
select wheelbarrow

[JAG]

That leaves 2 out of clergymen, rugen, and Albino. Knowing Eaglefan, I think he kept the Albino in the game because its a unique role. That leaves either a brutal or cunning

I would be surprised if Rugen wasn't in the game as he was a fairly major character. I wouldn't be surprised to see the ROUS in there too. When this ran last time as a 16 (I think?) person game there were 3 wolves and the ROUS so that would be almost the same ratio.

[EagleFan]

Mirale Max gives away the cloak, no one selects it.

[Danny]

Although looking at the good roles, Miracle Max seems most likely not to be in the game as that is really the only bluff role the wovles could have (grandpa and Inigo are both provable roles).

[Danny]

Mirale Max gives away the cloak, no one selects it.

Though based on this I think max would have to be in the game

[Danny]

I think Grandpa is likely not in the game, but again, thats not a role the wolves could bluff with

[Danny]

Only other possible bluffinf role is buttercup

[EagleFan]

As of post 121:

Lynch:
mauchow 1 - Narcizo (95)
KatyLied 1 - JAG (99)
PackerFanatic 1 - Danny (106)

Item:
Wheelbarrow - JAG (99), The Jackal (108), Danny (118)
Iocane Powder - fontisian (102)

[EagleFan]

Maybe I made everyone vanilla villagers and want to see how long until you notice... ;)

j/k...



... or am I?


:devil:

[Julio Riddols]

Well, you're 1/1 with me on that. I've got mad vanilla flavor.

[britrock88]

AND ANDRE THE GIANT RE-ENTERS THE RING!!!!

I was hoping we'd see this again. :)

[Danny]

I may just make that my standard check in lol

[Danny]

Well, you're 1/1 with me on that. I've got mad vanilla flavor.

I am always a little suspicious of strong vanilla check ins.

[PackerFanatic]

Checking in. Not much else to offer at this point.

Except - Danny, what the hell man?! :-P

[EagleFan]

Time for a little 1987 flashback...

[EagleFan]

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[EagleFan]

The 1987 season, though the playoffs and super bowl were 1988..

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[EagleFan]

This one is painful (would rather watch game 6)

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[britrock88]

EF's artificially inflating his post count...

Vote EagleFan

;)

[Danny]

That's s bit much with the videos

[JAG]

It's a great day when Danny can complain about someone posting too much.

[EagleFan]

EF's artificially inflating his post count...

Vote EagleFan

;)

An unsetling feeling strikes everyone. You hear something approaching in the distance, in the dark...

[EagleFan]

That's s bit much with the videos

No CF, someone has to post them... ;)

[hoopsguy]

It's a great day when Danny can complain about someone posting too much.

If CrimsonFox was here, he would have comments on each and every one of the music videos :)

[path12]

Checking in. Hi. Mondays are busy.

[britrock88]

OK, someone watching the Duke/Creighton game - Kelly with 4 fouls. How many minutes did it take for him to get those fouls? Guessing not many ...

The real question is how many more minutes would the refs wait to call a 5th on him? When I saw Plumlee and Kelly with 4 each at about 12 minutes to go, and 5 Creighton guys with 3 fouls at the same time, I bet a friend that 2 Creighton guys would foul out before either of Plumlee or Kelly. Glad Echenique finally made the move that proved me wrong at 2:45 (Plumlee had picked up his 4th at 14 or 15 minutes to go).

[Narcizo]

*nods head sagely* mmm-hmmm. mmm-hmmm. I see.

Anyway it would seem britrock has the hidden basketball commentator role. Which is good to know. Come on everybody! Vote and select.

select holocaust cloak

[Lathum]

Vote Iocane Powder

[EagleFan]

*nods head sagely* mmm-hmmm. mmm-hmmm. I see.

Anyway it would seem britrock has the hidden basketball commentator role. Which is good to know. Come on everybody! Vote and select.

select holocaust cloak

that item cannot be selected.

[Lathum]

vote Murray5Y
dangerous as a wolf, played enough that I don't feel bad voting him D1

[mauchow]

Hopefully I can help the village win this time. I won't know how my day will be til I get to work. May have an auditor today so we'll see.

[Coffee Warlord]

De da. Re-reading rules.

[Coffee Warlord]

Vote PackerFanatic

He's a Packers fan. Still.

Select Iocane Powder

Because.

[DaddyTorgo]

Hey I know - maybe you guys should lynch me D1 again and put yourselves far behind the 8-ball!!

:P

Vanilla villager here. Won't be around after work, and maybe not even till just before deadline or just after, because I have a work dinner.

[Coffee Warlord]

Don't tempt me!

[PackerFanatic]

Since I already have two votes (WTF?), I am going to wait to put my vote down to see how things shake out. I know it's only day 1, but I still don't like already having two votes this year!

[Coffee Warlord]

What can I say. I'm a cruel, cruel man who prefers people get to 2 votes early in the day on the first day. YOU WIN!

[Autumn]

Okay, checking in and catching up. I didn't read the rules carefully this time around so I need to do so this morning.

[Autumn]

19 players must be pretty close to what EF expected, so I would think most roles would be in the game. I imagine Dread Pirate Roberts is not, that would give the wolves something they could bluff and doesn't change the balance. Then maybe drop Grandpa and the ROUS? Or drop the Albino?

[Coffee Warlord]

You can't drop the Albino! You will regret this!

[DaddyTorgo]

So do I simply state in thread: I WANT THE IOCANE POWDER

[Autumn]

anyway, I think we have a lot of roles so it would be best to just assume they're all there. Four to five wolves, we've got plenty of work to keep us busy.

[Autumn]

You can't drop the Albino! You will regret this!

No one puts the albino in the corner!

[Coffee Warlord]

My grandmother put the albino in the corner once....

ONCE.

[path12]

Request Wheelbarrow

So we request things and one of us gets it at the end of the day, is that right?

VOTE DQ BOY1000

Back later.

[Narcizo]

Select Wheelbarrow

Didn't read carefully and got them a-mixed up.

[JAG]

As of post 172:

Lynch:
PackerFanatic 2 - Danny (106), Coffee Warlord (159)
murra5y 1 - Lathum (156)
mauchow 1 - Narcizo (95)
KatyLied 1 - JAG (99)
DQBoy1000 1 - path12 (171)

Item:
Wheelbarrow - JAG (99), The Jackal (108), Danny (118), path12 (171), Narcizo (172)
Iocane Powder - fontisian (102), Lathum (154), Coffee Warlord (159), DT (167) (assuming that counts)

[Autumn]

I'm more worried about the wolves getting this one.

Select Iocane Powder

[Coffee Warlord]

I'm more worried about the wolves getting this one.


If the original lynch target (the holder of the powder) survives his role/allegiance will still be announced.

At least there's that part. Still a good one for wolves, but at least we still know if we got one.

[JAG]

You can make a reasonable case for both, but in my opinion there are a lot of potential villager roles with scans, protections, and potentially even grandpa power that could be disrupted by the wolves coming away with the wheelbarrow. That and the fact that the powder has a chance to fail.

[EagleFan]

As of post 175:

Lynch:
PackerFanatic 2 - Danny (106), Coffee Warlord (159)
murrayyyy 1 - Lathum (156)
mauchow 1 - Narcizo (95)
KatyLied 1 - JAG (99)
DQ_Boy1000 1 - path12 (171)

Item:
Wheelbarrow - JAG (99), The Jackal (108), Danny (118), path12 (171), Narcizo (172)
Iocane Powder - fontisian (102), Lathum (154), Coffee Warlord (159), DaddyTorgo (167), Autumn (174)

[EagleFan]

As an FYI, I have a late meeting tonight but should be done in plenty of time to get home and run the results on time. Wanted to note it just in case it is a couple minutes late.

I know, I sound like a wolf trying to cover my tracks. ;)

[Autumn]

Oh, I missed that bit CW. That's true, that's a dead giveaway. I was imagining having to run around in circles if somebody used htat discussing whether they were just a villager. In that case the wheelbarrow seems more of a worry, for example if the seer was revealed and could get in a scan while being guarded.

<b>UNSELECT IOCANE POWDER
SELECT WHEELBARROW</b>

[murrayyyyy]

SELECT IOCANE POWDER

VOTE MAUCHOW out of respect for the way he played last time.

[fontisian]

I don't like having so many people on the wheelbarrow. If a wolf gets it and uses it against us, they'll be pretty hard to narrow down. If the Iocane Powder is used, at least the user and their alignment will be obvious. I guess we can just hope the wheelbarrow goes to a towny. :/

[murrayyyyy]

vote Murray5Y
dangerous as a wolf, played enough that I don't feel bad voting him D1

Shouldn't it be Murray4y or Murra5y?

[PackerFanatic]

SELECT IOCANE POWDER

Already enough people on the wheelbarrow, and like font said - it will already be hard enough to narrow down if a good guy got it.

[Chief Rum]

Okay, everyone relax. I am here.

[Chief Rum]

I think it's obvious that we have Miracle Max in the game, from the rules.

For story purposes, we have to consider Westley in the game for the village, and for both story and role, I believe Inigo and Fezzik must be in the game as well. For the wolves, as noted the Prince and Fezzini, I feel, must be in the game, and I also agree with the thinking that Rugen is too key a character to leave out (plus, he's the brutal).

Where we're not thinking it through, in my opinion, is viewing their abilities, which can lead us to other conclusions.

For instance, the Prince is looking for Buttercup. We agree the Prince is in the game, so I would think so is Buttercup. Plus, she's absolutely a key character in the game. Aside from Rugen being the brutal, IMO, since Inigo is a for sure character story-wise and he is searching for Rugen, that's another point for Rugen being in the game. Vizzini scans for Westley, Inigo and Fezzik. Same thing.

The other roles, including the neutral roles, IMO, are less likely to be in the game as a result.

[Chief Rum]

SELECT IOCANE POWDER

I can buy one or the other helping the village or wolves more, and use that as a reason to select that item, but really, I just like the concept of having this and engaging in a battle of wits, lol.

[DaddyTorgo]

Wouldn't it better to start building a CoT for us to agree on 2 people to have the items and then we could establish views on them? Rather than everybody putting in claims for them and thus we'd have no idea who gets them (I assume)??

[Chief Rum]

VOTE PACKERFANATIC

I know, why I am piling on, right? Call it an experiment, just a gut call right now.

[fontisian]

Wouldn't it better to start building a CoT for us to agree on 2 people to have the items and then we could establish views on them? Rather than everybody putting in claims for them and thus we'd have no idea who gets them (I assume)??

... But that would make too much sense.

Vote fontisian for the Iocane Powder! She probably won't challenge you to a death match!

[Autumn]

Wouldn't it better to start building a CoT for us to agree on 2 people to have the items and then we could establish views on them? Rather than everybody putting in claims for them and thus we'd have no idea who gets them (I assume)??

That would be a good idea, actually, but we're notoriously bad at pulling anything off that involves everybody putting in or not putting in an action.

[PackerFanatic]

Well this is an interesting turn...

[Lathum]

Shouldn't it be Murray4y or Murra5y?

nah, it's like calling a fat guy "slim"

[PackerFanatic]

Time to slash my lead.

VOTE MAUCHOW

[EagleFan]

As of post 193:

Lynch:
PackerFanatic 3 - Danny (106), Coffee Warlord (159), Chief Rum (188)
mauchow 3 - Narcizo (95), murrayyyyy (180), PackerFanatic (193)
murrayyyyy 1 - Lathum (156)
KatyLied 1 - JAG (99)
DQ_Boy1000 1 - path12 (171)

Item:
Wheelbarrow - JAG (99), The Jackal (108), Danny (118), path12 (171), Narcizo (172), Autumn (179)
Iocane Powder - fontisian (102), Lathum (154), Coffee Warlord (159), DaddyTorgo (167), murrayyyyy (180), PackerFanatic (183), Chief Rum (186)

[EagleFan]

Wow, I just realized that one little typo can really change the meaning of PF's screen name.

[The Jackal]

I'm generally not a fan of voting someone based on last game play or piling on the first candidate. Since it's early enough, let's see what happens with a third.

VOTE KATYLIED

[PackerFanatic]

Wow, I just realized that one little typo can really change the meaning of PF's screen name.

Haha, I assume you did that in your last post? :)

[Autumn]

Packer, who I killed N1 recently. Three new players. And Mauchow. NOw, him I can understand. But for a D1 blind kill, I don't feel great about lynching the rest, so I'll be adding a new contender.

[Autumn]

After I go pee.

[Autumn]

For being after me on the list and being someone who is someone, I vote

<b>VOTE COFFEE WARLORD</b>

[Coffee Warlord]

I'M SOMEBODY!

I'M FINALLY SOMEBODY!

[Danny]

No time to catch up now but

unvote packer

I don't think he's a wolf this game

[Narcizo]

unvote mauchow
vote coffee warlord

[Narcizo]

Keep a level playing field while it's still early.

[fontisian]

Hmm.
Vote Katylied until she says something.

[Lathum]

vote count?

I m leaving work soon and may or may not get back on

[Chief Rum]

Cool, I was wondering if there would be an anti-PackerFanatic lynch backlash, and there was. If he turns out to be a wolf down the line, it will be useful to be able to look back at these votes.

I think mauchow is a good candidate to look at, since I haven't seen much from him yet here. He's usually around a fair bit (not like Danny or Autumn, but still, posting at least), but thus far, he has barely posted. That strikes me as an UTR wolf look in the making.

Until I see him more active today, I think he's a good way to go.

UNVOTE PACKERFANATIC

VOTE MAUCHOW

[britrock88]

Hello, folks. I'll be reading the rules now.

[PackerFanatic]

Not that he couldn't play it differently, but mau was pretty vocal last game and was a wolf from the start.

[PackerFanatic]

KatyLied 3
mauchow 3
PackerFanatic 1
murray 1
DQ_BOY 1
CW 1

[mauchow]

Busy as shit at work today

[The Jackal]

Think there's two votes on CW, PF

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE LATHUM

[murrayyyyy]

As of 213 I believe...

Lynch:
PackerFanatic 1 - Coffee Warlord (159)
murrayyyy 1 - Lathum (156)
mauchow 3 - Murrayyyyy (180), PackerFanatic (193), Chief Rum (207)
KatyLied 3 - JAG (99), The Jackal (196), fontisian (205)
DQ_Boy1000 1 - path12 (171)
Coffee Warlord 2 – Autumn (200), Narcizo (203)
Lathum 1 – DaddyTorgo (213)

Item:
Wheelbarrow - JAG (99), The Jackal (108), Danny (118), path12 (171), Narcizo (172), Autumn (179)
Iocane Powder - fontisian (102), Lathum (154), Coffee Warlord (159), DaddyTorgo (167), Murrayyyyy (180) PackerFanatic (183), Chief Rum (186)

[PackerFanatic]

Think there's two votes on CW, PF

You're right - I had missed Autumns

[DaddyTorgo]

That would be a good idea, actually, but we're notoriously bad at pulling anything off that involves everybody putting in or not putting in an action.

True. I actually think it would be a really good idea, but there's no way to get us all to agree and to actually pull it off.

[DaddyTorgo]

Let's make it a 3 way shall we?

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE COFFEE WARLORD

[Coffee Warlord]

Hot.

[JAG]

Not that he couldn't play it differently, but mau was pretty vocal last game and was a wolf from the start.

I agree with that FWIW. I don't see him ever intentionally playing UTR if he has a choice.

[Coffee Warlord]

Just remember what happened when you voted me last time, ya damn commies.

[britrock88]

12 votes, 13 people with a claim to an item. Danny grabbed without voting.

I'm thinking that it's not worth trying to grab the Iocane, as even if I were to use it successfully, we'd kill someone else just to keep a vanilla villager alive.

And it's interesting to see something like consolidation on D1, several hours away from the deadline.

All that said, I'll...

Select Wheelbarrow

Vote Lathum

I like the idea of keeping the voting fairly open for a while longer.

[Chief Rum]

Not that he couldn't play it differently, but mau was pretty vocal last game and was a wolf from the start.

True. Just noting a different pattern here to what I am used to seeing from him, and wondering if it is an indication of something.

Since he has posted about being busy at work, I'll presume that is rue, and unvote him for now.

UNVOTE MAUCHOW

[Chief Rum]

In addition to presuming that is rue, I will also presume it is true. ;)

[Coffee Warlord]

Perhaps you may rue the day you presumed the rue?

[Coffee Warlord]

Unvote PackerFanatic

[Coffee Warlord]

Ohhh who to vote for, who to vote for...

[Coffee Warlord]

Waiting to hear back from the other wolves in PM who to vote for.

Wait, shit! Nevermind!

[mauchow]

Caught !

vote cw

[mauchow]

Work will slow down in an hour or so..then I'll catch up and vote for real. CW just made it too easy lol

[Zinto]

Hey everyone!

[Zinto]

I assume that we will not be told in thread who received the items on day one or do people think we will be told?

[JAG]

As of post 229: (I think)

Lynch:
Coffee Warlord 4 - Autumn (200), Narcizo (203), DaddyTorgo (217), mauchow (228)
KatyLied 3 - JAG (99), The Jackal (196), fontisian (205)
mauchow 2 - murrayyyyy (180), PackerFanatic (193)
DQ_Boy1000 1 - path12 (171)
Lathum 1 - Britrock (221)
murrayyyyy 1 - Lathum (156)

Item:
Wheelbarrow - JAG (99), The Jackal (108), Danny (118), path12 (171), Narcizo (172), Autumn (179), Britrock (221)
Iocane Powder - fontisian (102), Lathum (154), Coffee Warlord (159), DaddyTorgo (167), murrayyyyy (180), PackerFanatic (183), Chief Rum (186)

[mauchow]

select iocane powder

[Zinto]

I guess the other question is, do we want the person with the item to reveal and reveal post deadline who they passed to so we can keep track of the items

[murrayyyyy]

I guess the other question is, do we want the person with the item to reveal and reveal post deadline who they passed to so we can keep track of the items

Not sure why they would reveal. If they did wouldn't they have a target on their back day one from the wolves?

[JAG]

I guess the other question is, do we want the person with the item to reveal and reveal post deadline who they passed to so we can keep track of the items

There's nothing in the rules regarding what happens to items if the person who has them is lynched / night-killed, so that might not be a great idea depending on what happens.

EF, what happens to items if the person who has them is lynched or night-killed?

(worth a shot)

[Narcizo]

unvote coffee warlord
Vote murra5y

Coffee scared me off with his commie-bomb. And pfaffing around with my votes is fun.

[Zinto]

Not sure why they would reveal. If they did wouldn't they have a target on their back day one from the wolves?


Well they have to be passed each day right? Or do they get to keep the items if they get them?

[Zinto]

I guess, we should forget all about my item reveal plan. I thought that each item had to be passed everyday because of the cloaks rules and item rules from other games. It would not make sense for whomever gets the items to reveal.

[murrayyyyy]

Well they have to be passed each day right? Or do they get to keep the items if they get them?

It says it may be passed, nothing about it having to be passed.

[Coffee Warlord]

Alright, I got the PM from Narc, and he told me to vote Murray.

Vote Murrrrraaaaaay

Wait! Shit!

[Chief Rum]

I will go with KatyLied, since she has been on the blocka ll day and we havenm't heard anything from her. We need to get the quiet people talking when they're in trouble.

VOTE KATYLIED

[murrayyyyy]

Well shit, I'm already near the top. Defensive move already.

unvote mauchow
vote coffee warlord

[Coffee Warlord]

Little early on that trigger, aren't we?

[PackerFanatic]

Gotta apply some pressure.

UNVOTE MAUCHOW
VOTE KATYLIED

[Zinto]

Has Katy checked in yet?

[Zinto]

I think I am going to...

Select Wheelbarrow

[murrayyyyy]

Little early on that trigger, aren't we?

Last time I was up first day I ended up in the pile on because I didn't make the defensive move. That got me a d1 exit. I'll make the move early tonight.

Probably not where my vote will stay tonight.

[Zinto]

It has been fairly quiet today. I am not likely going to vote for Katy if she does not check in, same goes for Julio and DQ who I also believe have not checked in.

[Danny]

Vote count? Super tired don't expect much from me tonight