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Kodos
01-21-2015, 11:38 AM
Which team has been the scummiest (cheating, dirty, etc.) in the 2000s? Poll to come.

Kodos
01-21-2015, 11:44 AM
Tough call between New England and New Orleans, but I'll give the nod to New England.

molson
01-21-2015, 11:48 AM
I'm going with Baltimore because putting Lewis on a pedestal and protecting Rice until they absolutely couldn't is still worse than deflating footballs or recording things from the wrong places.

Grover
01-21-2015, 11:49 AM
I'm going with Baltimore because putting Lewis on a pedestal and protecting Rice until they absolutely couldn't is still worse than deflating footballs or recording things from the wrong places.

+1

Kodos
01-21-2015, 11:49 AM
Baltimore has a strong case. Detroit should get some love too for Suh and Raiola.

Lathum
01-21-2015, 12:04 PM
This thread will not end well

Lathum
01-21-2015, 12:05 PM
I went with Philly, I would have been totally fine never seeing Mike Vick play football again.

Buccaneer
01-21-2015, 12:08 PM
Without a doubt, Miami with the Incognito culture. See I can play your stupid games too.

Kodos
01-21-2015, 12:09 PM
Yep. But the NFL has a history of allowing people like Vick, Leonard Little, and Ray Lewis get away with things that were appalling.

Lathum
01-21-2015, 12:10 PM
Without a doubt, Miami with the Incognito culture. See I can play your stupid games too.

Thats actually a really good one

Kodos
01-21-2015, 12:10 PM
Without a doubt, Miami with the Incognito culture. See I can play your stupid games too.

Eh, that was bad. But I haven't been a Dolphins fan since Marino left. ;)

ColtCrazy
01-21-2015, 12:10 PM
This thread will not end well

+1

Voted for NE anyway since they may have just broken the tie with some other franchises.

Grover
01-21-2015, 12:10 PM
Yep. But the NFL has a history of allowing people like Vick, Leonard Little, and Ray Lewis get away with things that were appalling.

Perhaps if they had seen the ta.... oh wait.

Don't forget Donte Stallworth!

albionmoonlight
01-21-2015, 12:18 PM
Baltimore. Ray Lewis obstructed justice in a double murder investigation, but we were all supposed to worship him because he pretended that he was in Gladiator and no one ever proved that he killed someone.

britrock88
01-21-2015, 12:18 PM
Bountygate trumps all.

albionmoonlight
01-21-2015, 12:19 PM
dola:

Actually, now that he's gone, I find myself rooting for Baltimore. Flacco and Harbaugh are a QB and coach that I really like.

Marmel
01-21-2015, 12:22 PM
I'll vote for Pittsburgh and Big Ben the Rapist.

mckerney
01-21-2015, 12:26 PM
Not sure how this poll is anything other than a run away for Washington.

molson
01-21-2015, 12:32 PM
So many good candidates. Who is the least scummy franchise? Houston? Jacksonville?

Brian Swartz
01-21-2015, 12:32 PM
New Orleans, and it's not close.

ColtCrazy
01-21-2015, 12:59 PM
So many good candidates. Who is the least relevant franchise? Houston? Jacksonville?

Fixed. And it's Jacksonville, by far. ;)

HomerSimpson98
01-21-2015, 12:59 PM
So many good candidates. Who is the least scummy franchise? Houston? Jacksonville?

Houston moved to Tennessee so FUCK THOSE GUYS TOO

Can we go historical too? Where is Modell? The Baltimore Colts?

CU Tiger
01-21-2015, 01:46 PM
Come on, no Bengal love?
How many arrests have they had?

albionmoonlight
01-21-2015, 01:59 PM
Al Davis is rolling over in his grave. For three decades, the Raiders would have owned this poll.

Subby
01-21-2015, 01:59 PM
All of the above.

Buccaneer
01-21-2015, 02:13 PM
Interesting cut-off date. Guess Kodos did not want to include the dirty Shanahan Broncos of the late 1990s.

Galaril
01-21-2015, 02:18 PM
Interesting cut-off date. Guess Kodos did not want to include the dirty Shanahan Broncos of the late 1990s.

What because of Romanoski?

Buccaneer
01-21-2015, 02:26 PM
OL cut blocking.

Kodos
01-21-2015, 02:46 PM
Interesting cut-off date. Guess Kodos did not want to include the dirty Shanahan Broncos of the late 1990s.

2000 seemed like a good cut-off. More or less covers the careers of current players. Agree that the cut-blocking would get the 90s Broncos some votes. And Romanowski was a world-class asshole. Also, a lot of people think Shanahan is dirty. I won't argue against any of those things.

mckerney
01-21-2015, 02:59 PM
OL cut blocking.

And salary cap cheating.

Thomkal
01-21-2015, 03:36 PM
I'd say New England overall for this time period-Baltimore, Miami, NO, and Cincy are good choices too. Some have isolated events, while New England seems to have at least one bad story/incident per year.

At least no one said my beloved Cardinals yet. :)

BishopMVP
01-21-2015, 03:58 PM
And salary cap cheating.Nobody cares that both those Broncos and the 49ers dynasty were violating the salary cap.

Blackadar
01-21-2015, 04:00 PM
I really wish Roger Goodell was a choice in this poll. :)

muns
01-22-2015, 07:16 AM
It's Baltimore. Surprised nobody even talks or brings up Suggs. Dude has beaten his girlfriend more times than ray rice ever did (she is now his wife), and that has been swept under the rug for the past few seasons.

Boston.com did a nice piece on it last week here Terrell Suggs Stands Tall as Another Case of Hypocrisy for the Baltimore Ravens and the NFL - Eric Wilbur's Sports Blog - Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/wilbur/2015/01/terrell_suggs_stands_tall_as_another_case_of_hypoc.html)

JonInMiddleGA
01-22-2015, 08:11 AM
Too many legit contenders, not sure I can actually narrow down to one pick.

flere-imsaho
01-26-2015, 07:25 AM
For me it's always been Baltimore. On top of the off-field stuff, they're the one team I could always count on to be looking to purposely injure players during games.

Kodos
01-26-2015, 07:57 AM
For me it's always been Baltimore. On top of the off-field stuff, they're the one team I could always count on to be looking to purposely injure players during games.

Plus whatever team Rodney Harrison was on.

flere-imsaho
01-26-2015, 08:02 AM
Plus whatever team Rodney Harrison was on.

*shrug*

From watching the games it always looked to me like the Ravens defense systematically worked to set up situations where they could injure an offensive player. Different from the individual player who is out to play dirty and/or injure people.

One example that sticks out was a game in which the first tackler deliberately held up a runner who was half-way to ground specifically so he could have his head taken off by the 2nd tackler.

cuervo72
01-26-2015, 08:04 AM
Reminds me - I never did finish the Tournament of Rick.

stevew
01-26-2015, 09:08 AM
Our nickname is a racial slur and we absolutely do not give a fuck.