FOFC's Greatest Athlete III (interactive)

[Breeze]

I was asked recently to resurrect this dynasty, so I've pulled out my old work and am in the process of building the tables and implementing some updates I designed after the second go-round.

Just as before with the Greatest Athlete II, there has been a long layoff between runs, and I want to make sure there is enough interest in this before I put forth the effort. If my memory serves, I believe we had 16 the first time and 10 the second time...Let me know if you'd like to participate.

If you are unfamiliar with this dynasty you can catch up. Just click the links...

FOFC's Greatest Athlete (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=41243&highlight=greatest%20athlete)

FOFC's Greatest Athlete II (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=83431&highlight=greatest%20athlete)

[path12]

Inn.

[PilotMan]

https://imgflip.com/s/meme/OMG-Cat.jpghttp://www.operationsports.com/fofc/data:image/jpeg;base64,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

INININININININ! Fuck yeah.

[collegesportsfanms]

Sounds like a blast, I'll give it a go

[JAG]

This was always fun, in.

[DavidCorperial]

I'm in as well.

[cmp]

I'm in.

[Coffee Warlord]

I remember this! In.

[tarcone]

In

[Greyfriars Bobby]

I'll join the fun.

[britrock88]

In, for sure.

[Simbo Klice]

In, to defend the bronze medal I think I got last time

[ntndeacon]

In !
Maybe I'll stay out of the cellar this time!

[thealmighty]

In,

[Breeze]

So I count 13 so far...that's enough to move forward. I'm about half way through building the random tables...so hopefully I can get you instructions on building your skills by next week.

[chesapeake]

In! I'd love the chance to defend my championship!

[Breeze]

Ok, the tables are configured to randomly build the player cards based on your skill choices. There have been a few changes to the way the game is played, which I'll get into in more detail after you've submitted your skills. As with the FGAII there are 10 skills to choose from:

Balance
Speed
Strength
Athletic Ability
Technique
Explosiveness
Focus
Drive
Flexibility
Stamina

You have 800 points to split between these categories (no going over 100). Please PM your settings to me along with you character name and country and we'll get started...

[Breeze]

I had a question asked in a PM that I figured I'd follow up with here, because many of you may be thinking the same thing....

"What's the lowest we can apply to a skill" - the Answer is 0...if you want to avoid one all together that is fine.


OK SO THAT DIDN'T WORK THE WAY I EXPECTED. AFTER PLUGGING IN SOME NUMBERS IT IS HAVING THE OPPOSITE EFFECT. SO LETS SAY THERE IS A 20 POINT MINIMUM PER SKILL

[BYU 14]

I'm in!

[PilotMan]

His body is ripped, his mind is lacking, he's from the USA and he posed for Playgirl, welcome.......Mike Honcho!

[JAG]

Submitted. Babson is back.

[tarcone]

Tarc Jordan is going to show the world what out of this world athleticism is.

[Breeze]

7 people have submitted their skills...so we are about half way there...

[Breeze]

BTW...if any of you would like to provide some background on your character, PM it to me and I'll add it to the pre-event write up...

[path12]

7 people have submitted their skills...so we are about half way there...

I will get mine to you sometime today.

[Breeze]

I will get mine to you sometime today.

that work, thanks.

[britrock88]

snet

[Greyfriars Bobby]

I'll be able to get my athlete profile to you later today/this evening, too. I hope that won't be too late.

[Breeze]

Tomorrow is fine...I probably won't start until next week just to make sure everyone has time to get their character's in.

[ntndeacon]

scent

[Umbrella]

Just curious breeze, is this based on the Avalon Hill decathlon game? It sounds like it based on your dice rolls and injuries, etc., but I haven't played that in probably over 20 years, so my memory is fuzzy.

If so, how do you create the character cards?

[path12]

cented.

[path12]

Just curious breeze, is this based on the Avalon Hill decathlon game? It sounds like it based on your dice rolls and injuries, etc., but I haven't played that in probably over 20 years, so my memory is fuzzy.

If so, how do you create the character cards?

I have this game around somewhere. I don't remember character traits though, just the statis pro charts.

[Breeze]

Ubrellla & Path,

Yes I'm using the Avalon Hill Track Meet/Decathlon game as the base mechanics for the dynasty, but the game has evolved a good bit from the one that was released in the early 70s, and I added some touches for the dynasty.

I don't want to bore anyone, so I'm not sure how far into the gory details I should go. But if you are interested read on...if not feel free to ignore the babbling stat junkie in the corner...

To begin, the game mechanics are identical to the Decathlon game released in 1972. You roll the 3 Statis Pro dice resulting in a number between 10 and 39, and each player has a unique card that amounts to a spreadsheet with events in each column and dice roles in each row and results in every cell. To breakdown the columns/results/odds here is was I wrote from the initial FOFC’s Greatest Athlete Dynasty (some of this will change with the new version, but I’ll get to that later)

- There is a 1 in 6 chance of rolling in the 10s, 2 in 6 of rolling in the 20s and 3 in 6 of rolling in the 30s

- The field events (minus pole vault and high jump) are divided into 3 columns, safe, average and aggressive - players announce which column they will use prior to their attempt

- The cards are based on templates where injuries are preset, as are some "NG" (no good) attempts.

Originally, when the game was released there were 7 athlete cards. Back in 2005 when I ran a dynasty called the World’s Greatest Athlete (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=40532&highlight=greatest%20athlete), I used the updated version with 15 athlete cards (that dynasty is what prompted the FOFC’s Greatest Athlete dynasties and the customizations I made in order to create unique user cards and skills). Currently the game has grown to 36 cards, and the cards have been standardized (which made set up this time much easier).

If you’ve read or participated in any of the past dynasties you are probably aware that I broke down each event into different ability levels, A-C in game 1 and A-F in game 2. These ratings were basically a grade level for each athlete card in each event, for instance, Jim Thorpe is an amazing high jumper, so his card would be graded and A in that event, but he’s only ok at pole vault so he’d be graded a C or D in that event. These graded cards combined to create 1 master table for each graded event. Then I created a formula that takes the skill points selected by the dynasty participants and uses a formula for each event to determine each player’s grade. Then a weighted formula randomly picks results from the existing athlete cards of the same grade to create a completely unique card for each of the FOFC players.

With 36 athlete cards currently available as the base, the number of combinations/permutations is significant so no chance any two event columns will be the same, much less any two player cards.

Hope this answers your questions, if you have any more, feel free to ask. There are some differences with the new version of the game, and I’ll get into those details once I’ve given everyone a chance to get their skills in, we are still a few short based on the people that said they’d like in above.

[Breeze]

snet

never got yours...not sure why...

[Breeze]

I count 5 that I don't have skills from yet that indicated they wanted to particpate. By my count they are:

umbrella
greyfrairs bobby
britrock88 (never received yours if you PMed it)
BYU14
chesapeake

You still have time, but after not getting britrock's I wanted to get a list out in case there is a problem with my inbox and you've sent it I just haven't received it.

[Greyfriars Bobby]

I sent mine not long after your last post...hope it got to you!

[britrock88]

never got yours...not sure why...

You're totally right... no trace of the PM on my end! Redoing it...

[Breeze]

Only missing stats at this point are from

umbrella
BYU14

[Breeze]

Decathletes, I just wanted to let you know that I'll be occupied for the next several days at the kids Long Course State Swim Meet. So I'm not sure how much of this I'll get to work on. I hope to kick this off on Monday…and maybe this will allow enough time for Umbrella and BYU14 (and others if any stragglers want to join) to get their stats in.

[Umbrella]

I sent a PM, but I think I will pass. I'm really busy, so I don't want to hold things up.

[BYU 14]

PM sent sorry for the delay guys

[Breeze]

Dynasty Update

The cards for all 15 players have now been created. However, I want to get some feedback from the group.

This new version of the game will require players to determine there level of effort on each event/jump/throw. Thus I will require some guidance from each of you on how you want to proceed. If you've played in the past or if you are new and just wondering, I try to guide you by letting you know basic odds of improving etc. Obviously, your decisions will be impacted by the results of your previous attempts, where you are in the standings, injuries, and more. Given that the interaction will go up a bit, this dynasty will probalby take a bit longer.

Now with that said, I'll be going on vacation for a week starting 7/28 and won't return until 8/3 or 8/4...so I wanted to find out if you'd prefer we start, see how far we get, pause and finish after vacation, or just wait to start until after I get back?

[ntndeacon]

either way is fine with me

[path12]

My feeling is whatever is best for the guy doing the work.

[Greyfriars Bobby]

I'm fine with whatever you decide, too.

[Breeze]

FOFC's GREATEST ATHLETE III - Game Mechanics

Regardless if you are a returning athlete or new to this franchise it will probably be wise to read through the game mechanics below as there are numerous changes in the way the game is played and the way the dynasty will play out.

Card Construction
To begin, this year the tables are divided into 4 levels of performance (previously the A-C grade in vI and A-F in vII). This time one of the performance levels was dropped due to the increased number of results (more base data to randomly draw from) and the new version already categorized the cards based on an Excellent, Good, Fair, Poor scale, thus making it easier to incorporate the new data set by using the 4 level scale. Your skills were combined in a formula for each event to determine where in that 4 level scale you fall and your card was randomly created from the matching data set.

Game Play / Interactive Decisions
In the new version of the game, the player must announce their level of effort (safe, average, or all out) for each event (not just the field events this time).

- safe - highest probability recording a results but the odds of that result approaching a personal best or even an average result is lower.

- average - the number of injury, scratch, false start results is in the middle, results are typically better than safe but don't have potential for huge results

- all out - risk reward column. Injury, scratch, false start, etc. much higher, but results can be big. However, they can also be poor on occasion, think of it like trying too hard and ending up with a bad attempt


Another new twist with this version is - You'll only get to use All Out a set numnber of times for the each day. That set number is also based off of the skills you chose. I'll be PMing each of you the totals you can use. These new effort points are applied with each dice roll. What that means is - if you want to use All Out, you will asign 1 effort point each time you make an attempt. Each day will have numerous attempts, so you won't be able to use all out all the time. To give some guidelines, let's assume you take all 3 attempts on your field events, and you take your 7 jumps in pole vault and high jump that are allowed without creating fatigue penalties...you will end up with 18 rolls (1 in the 100 meters, 3 in long jump, 3 in shot put, 7 in high jump, 4 in the 400) on day 1 and 19 rolls (1 in hurdles, 3 in discus, 7 in pole vault, 3 in javelin, and 5 in 1500) on day 2. Each all out will cost 1 effort point, except in the 1500, and all out in any of the 5 segments of that race will cost 3 points - so choose wisely...

Injuries
Not all injuries are created equal, so the game has been modified to reflect that. When an injury occurs it can be mild, moderate, or severe, and each will have corresponding penalties that will impact future results. Multiple injuries can compound penalties.

Fatigue
Fatigue impacts options/results like injuries do. As long as each player stays at or under the 18 first day rolls and the 19 second day rolls there are no fatigue penalties. Anything over and penalties will start to be factored in

False Starts
This is a new feature...and it occurs in the 100 meters, hurdles, and 400 meters. Here is how these results work. The first false start causes no penalty at all. In the event there is a second false start there is no penalty, unless the person false starting is the same one that caused the first false start...in that case that player will receive no score for that event. If there are 2 false starts from different players, and a 3 false start occurs, the person false starting on the 3 time will receive no score in the event. Obviously, a false start by one or more people may change strategy for an event, so in the dynasty after a false start is reported, I'll need each player to once again annouce the effort they plan to use in the event. (no a false start does not cost you an all out effort point)


I think that covers it...if you have questions, fire away.

[britrock88]

Looks fun! And operate it on whatever time frame works well for you.

[JAG]

Now with that said, I'll be going on vacation for a week starting 7/28 and won't return until 8/3 or 8/4...so I wanted to find out if you'd prefer we start, see how far we get, pause and finish after vacation, or just wait to start until after I get back?

Whatever works best for you.

[Simbo Klice]

I'd like to get it rolling, but I can see the pros/cons of either way

[PilotMan]

I'm actually planning on being on vacation the same time. I've waited for years for III. I'm just excited you're running it again. It is without reservation, one of the very best interactive dynasties of all time.

[Breeze]

FOFC's GREATEST ATHLETE III - Game Mechanics

Couple more quick notes for game play.

Effort Points & Fatigue
As I mentioned in the initial Game Mechanics write up, each of you will receive effort points that you can assign to each dice roll in order to use the all out column on your player card. However, I've decided to add some additional strategy to this by allowing you to go over the number of effort points assigned, with the understanding that fatigue penalties will be applied from that point forward. Moreover, the penalties are cumulative, so the more you go over the more fatigue you will experience. (If you are thinking of going over on the 1500 just because the penalties will not have time to impact you, you are welcome to try it and see…)

Injuries & Fatigue
Also, I mentioned that I would be letting you know basic probabilities for jump/throw/event improvements with each attempt, however, I think it is important to understand that my explanations to you will not factor in fatigue or injury penalties. Like in real life, an athlete knows he’s not 100%, so he doesn’t expect a personal best, he doesn’t know how off he is, and I’m not going to flat out tell you how much you are being impacted.

[Breeze]

Effort Points Update

I attempted to PM all of you with your effort points for each day. If you didn't receive anything let me know, I probably forgot to put a subject in the message and it didn't send.

[Breeze]

Update

Just waiting on a quick response from 1 person and then I'll introduce the field and we'll get started...

[Breeze]

Meet the Athletes

After a long layoff, we have finally gotten the funding required to host another FOFC’s Greatest Athlete Decathlon. This will be the 3rd Championship hosted by FOFC and we are looking forward to another spectacular event. Before we get started, let’s take a second to recognize our previous champions:

- Stan Gunner – USA (9049 points)
- Gryffydd Llyw – Wales (8788 points)


Before we get started we want to take a moment to introduce the athletes:

Gryffydd Llyw – Wales – the champion from the second greatest athlete competition, I mean the Greatest Atlete II...not the second greatest athlete, that'd be dumb, who wants to be the second greatest...that was just...oh nevermind...anyway he's back to defend his championship. Similar to vII, Llyw continues to be an all-around focused athlete that hopes his steady approach allows him to once again come out on top. He basically won’t have any stretch of time where he’ll dominate, but he should make jumps in the High Jump and Javelin. Llyw is so popular in his home country that he requests to compete for Wales rather than Great Britain…a point that is sometimes sticky between the two entities, but apparently the agreement is he can compete for Wales in all competitions other than the World Championships and the Olympics, and that’s why he shows up as a Welsh representative here.

Brian Babson – Iceland – The former boxer and golfer is the only athlete to compete in all three of these competitions. This also happens to be the 3rd country he represents. In the first competition he represented the US. However, he ran out of money when in Germany for a golf tournament and couldn’t afford to return home. That is until he collected his prize money for finishing second in the Greatest Athlete II. Then he attempted to fly back to the US, but his plane had to emergency land in Iceland, and while he was waiting on repairs he knocked out a security guard with a left hook, and has been detained in the country ever since (the government considered it assault with a deadly weapon once they learned he had previously been a boxer). He’s agreed to represent Iceland in this event in hopes of gaining his freedom. Last time he competed he dominated the event, leading the entire time, until his lack of endurance resulted in a pathetic result in the 1500 and he was passed for the overall victory. He had vowed to improve his endurance, but when interviewed about that he said, “Do you know how cold it is in Iceland? No way in hell I’m going outside in that weather!” So we’ll have to wait and see how much his lack of, um…outside activity hurts his results.

Kurt Rambis, Jr. – USA – The bronze medal winner from vII is also back. Last time out he had strong showings in the Shot Putt, High Jump, Discus, Javelin, and 1500…he’s since worked more on his speed so I suspect he’ll have good results in the 100 meters, shot, hurdles, discus and especially pole vault.

Rob Nielsen – Denmark – Another returner from the second competition, Nielsen managed to finish 7th last time out, but was much more competitive than that sounds. Poor performances in the last day in the discus, javelin and the 1500 caused him to lose ground. Going into the 1500 he was in medal contention sitting in 4th place. He has greatly improved his endurance in hopes of preventing the collapse he suffered last time out, and he should battle Babson for the best result in long jump.

David Ginsberg – Israel – In vII, Ginsberg finished a solid 5th, only 15 points out of the medals. He’s determined to improve this time around. He was so close last time out, had he thrown the discuss 3 feet further, or the shot 11” further, or run the 1500 3 seconds faster he would have earned the bronze. Like last time out, he’s going to have to overcome poor field events if he hopes to improve on his final standings.

Jawouk Bafou – Cameroon – The former basketball player for Duke University finished 9th in this event last time out on raw ability and stamina, having just transitioned into track and field. Since the last decathlon, he’s finished his major, and he’s been concentrating on improving his training to produce more consistent results, but it appears he’ll be strongest in the end of both day 1 and day 2. I also suspect he’ll get off to a very slow start. When he isn’t training he is giving back to his community as he opened and operates an NGO that builds secondary schools in villages like the one he grew up in. No information on if those schools have good track and field teams.

Al Mighty – Italy – The final returning competitor to our competition is also the only one that competed in the first but not the second competition. Al, the former Irish athlete competed in the first decathlon finishing 7th, but before the second one could be run, he had a falling out with Larry McGillicuddy, the Irish representative in that meet. Rumors are the argument was over Guinness vs Smithwick’s…but we can’t confirm that. Whatever the reason, Mighty left the country and now competes for Italy. Unfortunately for Ireland McGillicuddy didn’t qualify for this meet. Like last time, Mighty is hoping a quick start in the 100 meters and long jump will help carry him, but he’ll have to avoid a let down on day 2 to get on the podium.

Tarc Jordan – Ireland – Ireland may not have Mighty anymore and McGillicuddy may not have qualified to compete here, but Tarc Jordan did. The new entry has a solid looking skill set and like Mighty he’ll approach this event hoping to jump out to an early lead and hang on as he is decidedly better on day 1 than he is on day 2.

Paavo Ketola – Finland – Probably the fastest of all the fast starters, so much so that if he isn’t is the top position after the first 3 events by a pretty good margin I’ll be very surprised. However, after those first 3, it will be a struggle. It’s almost as if his training started with event one, moved to event two, then to the shot putt and then he runs out of time and goes home, only to repeat the process the next day. That assessment isn’t actually fair as he’s also good at the discuss, but the distance stuff and going over a bar (pole vault and high jump) are below average.

Mike Honcho – USA – The US’ second representative at these games is an interesting competitor. He is athletic, fast, and strong, but he’s all over the place. Raw in a way that is reminiscent of Bafou from the last meet, he struggles with technique and he appears to be stiff and out of control a majority of the time. However, that doesn’t prevent him from dominating from time to time. Watch out for him in the final events of both days and the discus, where his wild bizarre out of control rotation sometimes results in big throws.

Mike Schaplowsky – Poland – The Polish representative is the epitome of consistency in training. He’s solid across the board in his skills which results in pretty consistent performances. He probably won’t dominate anything, but he shouldn’t disappear in any single event either. His training style typically results in a poor 100 meters, as the rest of the field tends to have more speed, but in the middle of the meet, expect to see Schaplowsky make a steady climb up the leaderboard.

Comrade Path – Russia – very little is known about Comrade Path…he hails from Chernobyl and he’s sports a tattoo of Putin, and other competitor swear his shoes have a faint glow to them, but other than that it’s as if this athlete never existed. When asked for more details the Russian officials just shrug apologetically saying they don’t have any to give, and amazingly the come across completely believable not like they are actually trying to cover anything up. It’s obvious the other competitors as well as the Russian officials, trainers, and coaches are all uncomfortable around him. As far as ability goes, practice results indicate he should be strongest in the middle of the meet and again at the very end. In fact, he could outright win the javelin event…there are rumors that he hunts with one which is what makes him so good at that event, but no one wants to get close enough to talk with him in order to confirm.

Octavio Palmiero – Paraguay – another in a long list of fast start competitors. He’ll be very good early in the 100 meters, long jump and shot putt. He should also do well in the hurdles and javelin. However, unlike some of the other fast starters, Palmiero doesn’t have obvious weaknesses, which has led some of the experts to pick him as a favorite for this decathlon.

Em Peltonen – Finland – The second representative from Finland to make the qualifying score for this event, Peltonen is more at home in Winter sports, as he continues to push for a Winter Decathlon, but until he can get some traction on that, he competes in the Summer Games, and he competes well. He really has no weaknesses, but he won’t be a fast starter. He’ll hit his stride at the end of day 1 and early into day 2, with solid scores throughout.

Eddie Chilton – Great Britain – This is the first representative (not counting Llyw) from Great Britain since the first competition, when David Yelloppe finished 5th. Chilton is an up and down performer with strong sprinting and jumping skills, but weak field events and 1500 will make it difficult for him to medal unless he outperforms his typical results in his weak events or blows people away in his strong ones.

[Breeze]

Event 1 - 100 Meter - Preview

Event Favorites
Ketola, Babson, Chilton

Event Underdogs
Schaplowsky, Bafou, Path

[Breeze]

Event 1 – 100 Meter – Card Review

Ketola – Very strong card with high probability rolls of 10.3 or better. Actually has the ability to go sub 10 with a good roll. If the result isn’t 10.4 or under he will consider the time poor. Prediction 10.2

Babson – Another strong card with results available that are sub 10 seconds. Lots of 10.2s here, and in fact if that isn’t the result I’ll be surprised – Prediction 10.2

Nielsen – A really good sprinter, who on average is well behind the first two athletes listed. Most typical results fall between 10.4 and 10.6…there are a couple of 10.7 that are in dangerous spots and a roll of 10.7 would be disappointing. – Prediction 10.6

Honcho – This card, while the same level as Nielsen’s is actually better…with most results falling in the 10.4 range. Anything over 10.55 would be bad luck – Prediction 10.35

Jordan – Similar looking card to Nielsen, though maybe a bit better with high probability rolls of 10.4 and 10.5 – Prediction 10.5

Mighty – a scary 10.75 on the 3 most likely roll…a bunch of rolls between 10.4 and 10.6. Prediction 10.5.

Rambis Jr. – a very up and down card, with some rolls as low as 10.1 or 10.2, but some bad rolls as high as 10.8 and 10.9. One of the harder cards to predict based on the fluctuations. Prediction – 10.65

Schaplowsky – Needs to go under 11 seconds, but most high probability rolls are 10.85 or higher. Prediction 11.05

Path – While in the same range as Schaplowsky, it appears he has a much better chance of going sub 11, and with a 10.5 on a high probability roll might end up making him the sleeper of this event. Prediction – 10.8

Palmiero – most results are around 10.6 anything well below or well above is either very lucky or unlucky…Prediction 10.6

Ginsberg – very strong rolls of 10.3 and 10.4 on some high probability spots. With a good roll could out perform some of the people ranked above him…Prediction 10.5

Peltonen – another card that I sup and down, with high probability results ranging from 10.5 to 10.9…Prediction 10.7

Bafou – If the result is better than 10.8 it will be a very fortunate roll… Prediction 11.1

Llyw – a tempting 10.4 in a very high probability roll could change the standings in this one early, but mostly likely result will fall around 10.7. Prediction 10.75

Chilton – the final real flyer in this event, can get sub 10, but a bad roll could have him at 10.6. Prediction 10.35.

[Breeze]

Event 1 - 100 Meter Player Announcements

With that...I'm now ready for you to announce your level of effort...

[Breeze]

Event 1 - 100 Meter Result Specifics

Safe
Injuries - 0%
False Starts - 0%

Average
Injuries - .94%
False Starts - .04%

All Out
Injuries - 1.8%
False Start - 13.98%

[ntndeacon]

looks like an average for Palmiero

[Coffee Warlord]

Average seems to be the way to go for Nielsen.

[Greyfriars Bobby]

Peltonen is going average, too.

[path12]

Comrade will go average.

[JAG]

Babson - average. And he will break you.

[collegesportsfanms]

Average is the way to go for Schaplowsky

[cmp]

Average for Ketola.

[Simbo Klice]

Kurt Rambis Jr. will look to make an early move and go All Out.

[BYU 14]

Average for Chilton

[DavidCorperial]

Um, was I supposed to see my cards?

[PilotMan]

Honcho ~ Avg

[Breeze]

Um, was I supposed to see my cards?

No I don't actually distribute the cards...thought about doing that way back in vI but the discussion was it would be too difficult to manage. However, your question did key me into the fact that I probably owe each of you a little better breakdown on the event, so I'll post that shortly and allow any changes to effort level following the new post.

[Breeze]

Event 1 – 100 Meter – Card Review

Note: In reading the card review by effort below the comment in the parentheses is the probability of rolling that result...


Ketola
- SAFE - 10.15 (decent) to 10.8 (low) with average roll around 10.6. A wide spread thru high probability rolls from 10.35 to 10.75
- AVE - 10 (good) to 10.65 (extremely rare) with average roll around 10.3. High probabilty rolls hover between 10.1 and 10.45
- ALLOUT - 9.85 (rare) to 10.6 (decent) with average roll around 10.2. High probabilty rolls range from 9.95 to 10.6

Babson
- SAFE - 10.2 (rare) to 10.75 (good), average roll 10.5, high probabiliy rolls are tightly bunched around 10.5
- AVE - 9.95 (fair) to 10.55 (fair), average roll 10.25, high probabilty rolls almost all are 10.2
- ALLOUT - 9.8 (low) to 10.6 (rare), average roll 10.2, high probabilty rolls vary wildly from 9.85 to 10.55

Nielsen
- SAFE - 10.4 (rare) to 11.05 (good), average roll 10.75, high probably rolls are all bunched around the 10.75.
- AVE - 10.2 (extremely rare) to 10.7 (good), average roll 10.5, high probably rolls between 10.45 and 10.55
- ALLOUT - 10.15 (fair) to 10.8 (good), average roll 10.5, most high probabilty rolls hover around 10.65 but there is that 10.25 mixed in.

Honcho
- SAFE - 10.4 (rare) to 11 (good), average roll 10.75, high probably rolls are all bunched around the 10.75.
- AVE - 10.2 (rare) to 10.8 (rare), average roll 10.5, high probably rolls between all around 10.45
- ALLOUT - 10.05 (rare) to 10.8 (good), average roll 10.5, most high probabilty rolls hover around 10.7.

Jordan
- SAFE - 10.45 (fair) to 11.05 (good), average roll 10.75, high probably rolls most are around 10.85, but a couple are around 10.5.
- AVE - 10.2 (good) to 10.85 (rare), average roll 10.55, high probably rolls lots of 10.4s, but a few 10.65 and 10.7s
- ALLOUT - 10.1 (fari) to 10.8 (good), average roll 10.5, most high probabilty rolls hover around 10.7.

Mighty
- SAFE - 10.4 (rare) to 11 (good), average roll 10.75, high probably rolls most are around 10.80
- AVE - 10.35 (fair) to 10.8 (fair), average roll 10.55, high probably rolls wide spread from 10.4 to 10.75
- ALLOUT - 10.1 (fair) to 10.85 (good), average roll 10.55, most high probabilty rolls widely spread 10.35 to 10.85

Rambis Jr.
- SAFE - 10.5 (fair) to 11 (very good), average roll 10.75, high probably rolls 10.6 to 10.9
- AVE - 10.3 (fair) to 10.85 (fair), average roll 10.55, high probably rolls wide spread from 10.35 to 10.7
- ALLOUT - 10.1 (rare) to 10.9 (good), average roll 10.55, most high probabilty rolls around 10.65

Schaplowsky
- SAFE - 11 (fair) to 11.6 (fair), average roll 11.25, high probably rolls 11.05 to 11.3
- AVE - 10.5 (fair) to 11.35 (fair), average roll 11, high probably rolls around 10.9
- ALLOUT - 10.35 (fair) to 11.3 (rare), average roll 10.9, most high probabilty rolls around 11 but a tempting 10.4 on one of the results

Path
- SAFE - 10.8 (rare) to 11.55 (fair), average roll 11.2, high probably rolls around 11.3
- AVE - 10.5 (good) to 11.2 (rare), average roll 10.85, high probably rolls range from 10.5 to 11.1
- ALLOUT - 10.35 (rare) to 11.3 (good), average roll 10.9, most high probabilty rolls around 11

Palmiero
- SAFE - 10.5 (average) to 11.05 (average), average roll 10.75, high probably rolls around 10.75
- AVE - 10.2 (good) to 10.8 (extremely rare), average roll 10.55, high probably rolls around 10.6
- ALLOUT - 10.05 (rare) to 10.85 (rare), average roll 10.5, most high probabilty rolls around 10.65

Ginsberg
- SAFE - 10.55 (very good) to 11.05 (good), average roll 10.8, high probably rolls all appear to be 10.8
- AVE - 10.2 (extremely rare) to 10.85 (fair), average roll 10.55, high probably rolls most around 10.45, but a few 10.7s
- ALLOUT - 10.15 (rare) to 10.85 (good), average roll 10.55, most high probabilty rolls around 10.8

Peltonen
- SAFE - 10.7 (fair) to 11.2 (good), average roll 11, high probably rolls appear to be around 10.95
- AVE - 10.45 (fair) to 11 (fair), average roll 10.7, high probably rolls most around 10.55
- ALLOUT - 10.3 (rare) to 11.15 (fair), average roll 10.7, most high probabilty rolls around 10.9, but a tempting 10.4 is also present

Bafou
- SAFE - 10.85 (poor) to 11.5 (poor), average roll 11.2, high probably rolls appear to be around 11.25
- AVE - 10.5 (extremely rare) to 11.45 (fair), average roll 10.9, high probably rolls most around 10.9
- ALLOUT - 10.35 (fair) to 11.35 (good), average roll 10.85, most high probabilty rolls around 11.15

Llyw
- SAFE - 10.7 (fair) to 11.25 (poor), average roll 10.95, high probably rolls appear to be around 10.9
- AVE - 10.45 (rare) to 11.25 (fair), average roll 10.7, high probably rolls vary from 10.45 to 10.75, most closer to the high end.
- ALLOUT - 10.3 (fair) to 11 (good), average roll 10.7, most high probabilty rolls around 11

Chilton
- SAFE - 10.15 (rare) to 10.8 (fair), average roll 10.5, high probably rolls appear to be between 10.4 and 10.65
- AVE - 9.9 (fair) to 10.5 (fair), average roll 10.25, high probably rolls vary most around 10.3
- ALLOUT - 9.8 (fair) to 10.6 (good), average roll 10.25, most high probabilty rolls vary between 10.1 and 10.6

Hope this helps. I'm not going to assume that everyone will stick with their previous effort level, so please repost your efforts so I know you've seen the information above...

[Coffee Warlord]

Still cool with Average on the Mighty Dane.

[ntndeacon]

I am sticking with average

[JAG]

Babson - still average

[cmp]

Average for Ketola

[path12]

Path average.

[collegesportsfanms]

You know what, I feel like being gutsy here. Have Mr. Schaplowsky go all out and see what happens. It will probably backfire on me, but what the hey

[Greyfriars Bobby]

Peltonen will stick with average.

[Simbo Klice]

Hmmm, the risk/reward benefit would seem to make Average a better play for Rambis Jr.

[Breeze]

Hmmm, the risk/reward benefit would seem to make Average a better play for Rambis Jr.

Everyone this brings up a good point.

Keep in mind, in the write ups it is hard to relate the risk reward aspects of the allout column. Because the allout has very good results and poor results often the average of those is very similar to the average column...however, there are more big results in the allout than there are in the average column, you just need to hit the right row...

[chesapeake]

Based on my card review, it appears that my all-out card may actually be worse than my average card. So I will go with AVERAGE.

Thanks! I'm having fun already.

[Breeze]

Event 1 - 100 Meter - Status

Waiting on effort announcements from:

Hancho
Jordan
Mighty
Ginsberg
Bafou
Chilton

Once I have them I will post results. If I don't get the announcement before tomorrow at 2 PM, I will plan to run them as Average.

[PilotMan]

It'll be a avg run from Honcho. No sense in getting hurt on the first event.

[BYU 14]

Still average for Chilton

[thealmighty]

Al goes average.

[DavidCorperial]

Average for Ginsberg, sorry for the delay, was asking and am on vacation in Costa Rica and did a trip to Nicaragua yesterday, did not get any internet.

[Breeze]

Average for Ginsberg, sorry for the delay, was asking and am on vacation in Costa Rica and did a trip to Nicaragua yesterday, did not get any internet.

No problems...have fun...

[Breeze]

Just waiting on Bafou and Jordan now...

[Breeze]

Event 1 – 100 Meter - Preview

The runners are all stretched out and we are about to get underway. The 100 Meters will be run in 2 heats, with 8 in the first and 7 in second.

Heat 1

L1 -Schaplowsky
L2 - Rambis Jr
L3 - Honcho
L4 - Babson
L5 - Ketola
L6 - Jordan
L7 - Nielsen
L8 - Mighty


Heat 2

L1 - Bafou
L2 - Llyw
L3 - Palmiero
L4 - Chilton
L5 - Ginsberg
L6 - Peltonen
L7 - Path

The first heat should be much faster than the second one with big time sprinters Babson and Ketola in the first heat along with the very strong Nielsen, Honcho, Jordan, Might and Rambis Jr. In fact, poor Schaplowsky is the only runner in the first 8 you wouldn’t consider at least good in this event…he’ll almost certainly not only come in last, but the rest of the field might be sitting and having a meal before he reaches the line.

In heat two you’ll see a much wider spread in ability as Chilton is the only athlete that can be considered a top end sprinter for a decathlete. However, Palmiero and Ginsberg are capable of ripping off a fast time. The rest will be also rans in this event, but hoping to earn as many points as possible.

[Breeze]

Event 1 – 100 Meters - Heat 1

The runners are taking their places. The starter issues his set order…the gun fires and…

Oh my! Babson is out quickly – like he was shot out of a gun. The quick start appears to have caught Honcho in the lane next to him by surprise and he stumbles on his start. That’s going to really hurt.

As we approach the midway point of the race, Babson is really striding out and starting to pull away from the field, this is going to be a very fast time for him. Ketola, easily in second is trying to real in Babson, while Jordan and Rambis Jr battle for third with Nielsen hot on their heals. Mighty is in 6th, with Schalowsky next and Honcho still trying to recover from his stumble.

As Babson heads into the finish, Ketola appears to have second locked up, and Jordan is starting to edge out ahead of the others for 3rd. Nielsen, Rambis Jr, and not Mighty are tight for 4th, and Honcho has caught Schalowsky.

Babson wins…and Ketola is second.
Jordan takes 3rd.
The rest come to the line tightly bunched, Honcho is closing hard, but will he have enough room to catch the pack…

It’s extremely close, but it appears that Honcho didn’t quite catch the pack, and that Mighty appears about a half a step behind Nielsen and Rambis Jr…but I can’t tell with my naked eye who got 4th. We will have to wait on the photo finish and the official results. Schaplowsky as predicted brought up the rear a good ways back…

The official results are in:

Babson – 9.95
Ketola – 10.25
Jordan – 10.4
Rambis Jr. – 10.55
Nielsen – 10.6
Mighty – 10.7
Honcho – 10.8
Schaplowsky – 11.15

Well that certainly didn’t go according to the script…Honcho’s early stumble was a killer, probably cost him half a second, and Babson going sub 10 is HUGE…we’ll get into this more in the event review when we have more time. Right now it’s time to get the second heat into the starting blocks.

[Breeze]

Event 1 – 100 Meters - Heat 2

The runner charge out of the blocks as the gun goes off to start heat two. The field is tightly bunched early.

At the midway point Chilton is establishing himself, and Palmiero is responding by trying to keep pace. The rest of the field is moving like a wall towards the finish, there is almost to room between them.

Approaching the finish and Chilton is definitely going to win the heat and Palmiero will be about a stride back, but the rest of the field is still tightly bunched. It looks like the defending champ Llyw, Peltonen and Ginsberg are beginning to inch out on Bafou and Path. I’d expect Ginsberg to pull ahead coming in and take 3rd as he is the superior sprinter.

Chilton wins
Palmiero second

Peltonen, Llyw, and Ginsberg continue to battle for third, while Bafou and Path bring follow a step and half back…

Third is too close to call…

But Path does cross slightly ahead of Bafou…

The results are up on the board and they are:

Chilton – 10.3
Palmiero – 10.45
Ginsberg – 10.7
Peltonon – 10.7
Llyw – 10.7
Path – 10.85
Bafou – 10.9

Another surprise in that the back end Path and Bafou performed as well as they did, and Ginsberg’s inability to open up a lead on Peltonon and Llyw has to be disappointing…

[tarcone]

Sorry about not getting my effort preference in. Was on the road the last two days. Just got to where I was going.

[cmp]

Solid start for Ketola. I know he has more left in the tank.

[collegesportsfanms]

Geez, so much for going all out. lol

[JAG]

Babson smiles, hoping the decathlon will end after this event because he's already tired.

[PilotMan]

Honcho should've went balls out.

[britrock88]

Sorry about not getting my effort preference in. Was on the road the last two days. Just got to where I was going.

Pretty much a ditto here; sorry. I'll try to keep better watch as my travels continue for several more days...

[Breeze]

Event 1 - 100 Meter - Recap



Winners

Babson - Yes, we expected him to do well, but managing to hit the only sub 10 second roll on the average column is huge, as there was no better result possible without going all out.

Bafou - Predicted to go over 11 seconds, not only stayed under but stayed reasonably close to the tail end of the middle pack


Losers

Honcho - as I stated in the prediction, anything over a 10.55 would be bad luck. Well we are way over 10.55. In fact, this was the exact opposite of Babson, Honcho rolled the absolute worst number possible, which he had only about a 2.8% chance of doing.

Schaplowsky - yes we expected him to be slow, but he used a precious all-out pick, and ended up with a poor time. In fact, in the column there were only 5 outcomes worse and 20 better...

Ginsberg - the 10.7 result was surrounded by 10.3 to 10.4 results. The are only four 10.7 results in the column (most in low probability spots) and a 10.75 (also low probabilty), everything else is better.


The rest basically performed as expected. Palmiero had a nice improvement over the prediction, but it wasn't totally unexpected, while Mighty was the opposite under performing based on his prediction, but again not totally unexpected as the card breakdown talks about a wide range of results from 10.4 to 10.75.

[Breeze]

Standings - After Event 1


Babson 1108
Ketola 1035
Chilton 1023
Jordan 999
Palmiero 987
Rambis Jr 963
Nielsen 952
Mighty 929
Ginsberg 929
Peltonen 929
Llyw 929
Honcho 906
Path 894
Bafou 883
Schalowsky 827

[Breeze]

Event 2 – Long Jump – Preview

Event Favorites
Ketola & Nielsen

Event Underdogs
Ginsberg, Bafou, Honcho

After poor showings in the 100 for Ginsberg and Honcho it is a bad time for them to be in the underdog category...

[BYU 14]

A 10.3 keeps Chilton where he needs to be, since I don't even know if can finish the 1500. I will need to make hay in the track events.

[Breeze]

Event 2 – Long Jump - Result Specifics

Safe
Injuries – 0%
Fouls – 0%

Average
Injuries - 2.3%
Fouls - 29.37%

All Out
Injuries – 4.6%
Fouls – 58.75%

[Breeze]

Event 2 – Long Jump – Card Review

(note: all predictions assume average attempts)

Ketola
- SAFE – 22’7” (fair) to 25’11” (poor), average roll appears to be around 24’, with the high probability rolls hovering around the mid 23’ range
- AVE – 24’10” (average) to 27’1” (average), average roll appears to be around 26’ with high probability rolls in the low 26’ range
- ALLOUT – 24’10” (average) to 27’ 10” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 26’
- Prediction – 26’ 2”

Babson
- SAFE – 21’4” (average) to 25 (average), average roll appears to be around 23’5”, with the high probability rolls hovering around the mid 23’ range
- AVE – 23’4” (rare) to 26’5” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 25’ with high probability rolls ranging from high 24’ to low 26’
- ALLOUT – 22’11” (average) to 27’ 3” (fair), average roll appears to be around 26’ with high probability rolls ranging from mid 24’ to mid 26’
- Prediction – 25’

Nielsen
- SAFE – 22’4” (fair) to 25’7” (poor), average roll appears to be around 24’, with the high probability rolls hovering around the mid 23’ to low 24’ range
- AVE – 24’7” (rare) to 26’10” (fair), average roll appears to be around 25’6” with high probability rolls ranging from high 24’10” to low 26’
- ALLOUT – 24’10” (good) to 27’2” (average), average roll appears to be around mid 26’ with high probability rolls ranging from 24’10” to upper 26’
- Prediction – 25’6”

Honcho
- SAFE – 19’6” (good) to 23’11” (poor), average roll appears to be around 21’6”, with the high probability rolls hovering in upper 20’ to lower 21’ range
- AVE – 21’1” (rare) to 24’5” (good), average roll appears to be around 23’8” with high probability rolls mostly in the 23’ range
- ALLOUT – 22’5” (good) to 25’8” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be in low 24’ range with high probability rolls falling in the 24’ range
- Prediction – 23’ 8”

Jordan
- SAFE – 21’11” (good) to 25’3” (average), average roll appears to be around 22’8”, with the high probability rolls also hovering around 22’8”
- AVE – 22’3” (rare) to 26’6” (average), average roll appears to be around 25’ with high probability rolls mostly between 24’10” and 25’10”
- ALLOUT – 23’8” (average) to 27’4” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be in low 25’8” range with high probability rolls falling in the upper 25’ to lower 26’ range
- Prediction – 25’ 3”

Mighty
- SAFE – 20’2” (average) to 25’2” (rare), average roll appears to be around 23’10”, with the high probability rolls mostly in the low 23’, but there is that 21’3” on one of the most likely rolls
- AVE – 23’4” (rare) to 25’10” (fair), average roll appears to be around 25’3” with high probability rolls mostly in the mid 25’ range
- ALLOUT – 23’8” (fair) to 27’4” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be in low 25’10” range with high probability rolls mostly in the 26’ range
- Prediction – 25’ 3”

Rambis Jr.
- SAFE – 20’9” (fair) to 24’7” (rare), average roll appears to be around 22’8”, with the high probability rolls from very high 21’ to high 22’
- AVE – 23’2” (fair) to 25’7” (great), average roll appears to be around 24’8”, with the high probability rolls varied from 23’8” to 25’7”
- ALLOUT – 23 (fair) to 26’3” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be 25’ range with high probability rolls is varied but most are in the low 25’ range
- Prediction – 24’ 10”

Schaplowsky
- SAFE – 21’ (fair) to 24’5” (rare), average roll appears to be around 24’ with the high probability rolls mostly in the 24’ range
- AVE – 23’8” (fair) to 25’8” (rare), average roll appears to be around 24’8”, with the high probability rolls from the mid 24’ to mid 25’ range
- ALLOUT – 22’9” (fair) to 26’5” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be 25’2” range with high probability rolls mostly in the mid to upper 25’ range
- Prediction – 24’ 4”

Path
- SAFE – 21’ 1” (fair) to 24’4” (fair), average roll appears to be around 22’10” with the high probability rolls in the upper 21’ to upper 22’ range
- AVE – 23’6” (rare) to 25’5” (rare), average roll appears to be around 24’6”, with the high probability rolls from the upper 23’ to mid 24’ range
- ALLOUT – 23’5” (extremely rare) to 26’2” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be 25’ range with high probability rolls most are in lower 25’ range
- Prediction – 24’

Palmiero
- SAFE – 21’ 4” (fair) to 25’ (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 23’2” with the high probability rolls in the lower 23’ range
- AVE – 22’1” (fair) to 26’1” (good), average roll appears to be around 24’10”, with the high probability rolls spread out but several in the upper 25’ range
- ALLOUT – 23’7” (fair) to 27’3” (fair), average roll appears to be upper 25’ range with high probability rolls ranging from 24’5 to 26’10”
- Prediction – 25’ 4”

Ginsberg
- SAFE – 19’ 1” (average) to 23’11” (rare), average roll appears to be around 22’ with the high probability rolls mostly in the 21’ range
- AVE – 21’6” (fair) to 24’4” (average), average roll appears to be around 23’2”, with the high probability rolls mostly in the 23’ range
- ALLOUT – 23’ (fair) to 25’5” (rare), average roll appears to be upper 23’ 10” range with high probability rolls ranging around low 24’ results
- Prediction – 23’ 9”

Peltonen
- SAFE – 20’ 11” (fair) to 24’3” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 22’ 7” with the high probability rolls mostly in the upper 21’ to mid 22’ range
- AVE – 22’11” (fair) to 25’8” (average), average roll appears to be around 24’’2”, with the high probability rolls mostly in the 24’ range
- ALLOUT – 23’1” (fair) to 26’5” (extremely rare), average roll appears 25’ range with high probability rolls ranging bounces between upper 23’ and mid 25’
- Prediction – 24’ 2”

Bafou
- SAFE – 18’ 11” (good) to 23’11” (rare), average roll appears to be around 21’ 4” with the high probability rolls in the lower 21’ range
- AVE – 21’6” (rare) to 24’5” (good), average roll appears to be around 23’’2”, with the high probability rolls between low 23’ and lower-mid 24’
- ALLOUT – 20’11” (rare) to 25’9” (extremely rare), average roll appears 24’ with high probability rolls ranging mainly in the lower 24’ range
- Prediction – 23’ 2”

Llyw
- SAFE – 21’ 4” (fair) to 24’5” (fair), average roll appears to be around 22’ 5” with the high probability rolls mostly in the lower 22’ range
- AVE – 23’ (extremely rare) to 24’3” (good), average roll appears to be around 24’2”, with the high probability rolls mostly in the low 24’ area
- ALLOUT – 22’5” (fair) to 26’4” (extremely rare), average roll appears 25’2” with high probability rolls ranging mainly around 25’
- Prediction – 24’ 6”

Chilton
- SAFE – 20’ 2” (good) to 25’3” (average), average roll appears to be around 22’ 9” with the high probability rolls mostly in the 22’ range
- AVE – 23’4” (rare) to 26’3” (good), average roll appears to be around 24’8”, with the high probability rolls ranging from 24’4” to 26’3”
- ALLOUT – 22’9” (rare) to 27’2” (extremely rare), average roll appears 26’ with high probability rolls ranging in the upper 25’ to mid 26’ range
- Prediction – 25’

[Breeze]

Event 2 - Long Jump - Player Announcements

I am now ready for you to annouce your effort level for jump 1 of the Long Jump. If you have any questions, before announcing your effort, let me know, and just to be clear...I will provide more specific guidance based on your cards once I have a base result for each of you to work off of.

[Coffee Warlord]

Jump 1 the mighty Dane will go Average.

[JAG]

Babson - average

[collegesportsfanms]

Average for Schaplowsky. He is saving his all-outs, especially since the first one he used turned out to be worthless anyways.

[path12]

All out for Path.

[cmp]

Average for Ketola

[DavidCorperial]

Average for Ginsberg to start

[Greyfriars Bobby]

Peltonen will go Average on his first attempt.

[ntndeacon]

Average for palmiero

[Breeze]

Guys, I will be running the first jump on Monday morning. If I don't have your effort level I will assume average...

[tarcone]

Tarc is average for 1st jump

[PilotMan]

Honcho all out

[BYU 14]

Chilton all out for first jump

[Simbo Klice]

Average for Rambis Jr.

[britrock88]

Bafou will go with average intensity.

...when will we have an event he's good at? :)

[thealmighty]

Average.

[Breeze]

Nielsen – in his first attempt...Nielsen start his sprint down the runway, he starts striding out, hits mark and launches himself to the pit. The jump appears to be in the 24’ long range, but the white flag is up and it won’t matter, that’s a foul…Need to record a score

Babson – starts his sprint down the runway, and he’s flying like he did in the 100 Meters, must still have some adrenalin going. He hits mark, jumps and sores through the air…this is a long one. He lands and he’s out around the 26’ mark. We’ll have to wait on the measurement to be sure…and it is 26’ 1”. In the average column - you have a 26' 3" result on 31, which is a relatively high probability roll, but that is the only result better than your current distance. In the allout column, I count 12 of the 18 good results that are higher.

Schaplowsky – the big Pol takes his turn, his launch is good, no flag. The result…after the measurement appears to be a solid effort 24’ 3”. This distance is looks to be slightly lower than the average result in the average column. There are still quite a few results better if you stay average. Almost the entire allout column is better, if you can get a good result.

Path – Path stares down the runway…visualizing his effort…now he off, it’s clear he’s going hard on this one. He nails the board, and he’s flying down through the pit. He hits the sand, and that looks like a good jump – and it is, he measures in at 25’ 5”. Average column is maxed out…you hit the highest distance on the rare result outlined in the preview. In allout about half of the good results are better than your current distance

Ketola – he get a good head of steam going down the runway…he heads to the board, and he…have skips off of it. He fouled and he knew it, so he pulled up rather than risk and injury. - Need to record a score

Ginsberg – had a solid approach to the board, launches and he’s a bit early off the front end of the board, but it is a solid jump and his result is 23’ 4”. I count only 9 of the 24 good results in the average column lower, so still a bunch of room for improvement here. In allout almost the entire column in better. In fact you'd be hard pressed to get a good result and not do better.

Peltonen – his approach looks really good, strides hits the blocks good, trajectory is good and jump is good to. Final measurement 24’ 10”. I only show two results better...both are 25' or better and both are on low probability rolls. In the allout column 12 of the 18 are better, including some results in the 26' range.

Palmiero – Palmiero races down the runway, his steps are off, he tries to stagger them but he’s over the line. The jump won’t count, not that it was a good one anyway…Need to record a score

Rambis Jr. – His approach and jump look very good…technique was solid, effort good and the resulting jump is 24’ 6”…that’s a good start. I still show 10 results better in the average column…5 are in the teens, 4 are in the 20s and 1 on 31. In allout 13 of the 18 good results are better

Bafou – Runs, plants, jumps and that isn’t a particularly good effort. I’ve seen him do much better in practice…23’ 4”. About dead on the average result for the column, so still a bunch of improvement available in that column. If you get a good result in allout you’d be hard pressed to get a shorter distance.

Mighty - has a nice fast approach, the plant appears clean, and it’s a textbook angle…jump is a little sloppy, but the result is still a very strong 25’ 5”. 5 results in the average column are better, most in the low proability teens. In allout 14 of the 18 are still better.

Honcho – appears determined do overcome his poor result in the 100 meters as he really gets his speed up going down the run way. He plants jumps, and it’s in the 25’ range…but the white flag has been raised, it appears his toe was over the line. Foul. Need to record a score

Chilton – really gets the speed up down the runway, he’s going after this first jump. The plant and take off are clean, and the result – 25’ 8”… The only result better in the average column is the high result 26’3” on 31 (good). In allout, 10 of the 18 good results are better, most are in the low probability teens

Jordan – everything on the attempt was good, except the toe was over the line…foul need to record a score

Llyw – after watching Jordan’s attempt, Llyw basically duplicated it – similar approach and distance but toe was also over the line. need to record a score

[Breeze]

Event 2 - Long Jump Standings (after jump 1)



Babson 26’ 1”
Chilton 25’ 8”
Mighty 25’ 5”
Path 25’ 5”
Peltonen 24’ 10”
Rambis Jr. 24’ 6”
Schaplowsky 24’ 3”
Ginsberg 23’ 4”
Bafou 23’ 4”
Nielsen NS
Ketola NS
Honcho NS
Jordan NS
Llyw NS
Palmeiro NS

[Breeze]

Event 2 - Long Jump - Player Announcements

I'm not sure we'll get all the player announcements for jump two in time for me to run the jumps and post results, but you can state your plan for the second jump now.

[Breeze]

General Update

All, I got a PM question about attempts and I want to take a second to try and clarify my earlier post about fatigue.

Basically, with every field event you get multiple chances for a result. 3 jumps in the long jump, 3 throws in shot putt, javelin, and discuss. The high jump and the pole vault you continue to jump until you get 3 consecutive misses or you elect to stop. From a fatigue perspective you are allowed 7 without penalty. However, for every jump/throw you skip in the other field events with multiple opportunities, you will gain another jump attempt in the high jump or pole vault. Moreover, if you save a significant number of attempts, you could be granted another allout effort in either the 400, 1500 or javelin (javelin because it would take quite a few extra attempts to get an allout in the 1500 and if you have saved attempts and won't have enough to use in the 1500 the extra rest will allow for an allout attempt in the javelin so you can use that extra energy you strategically conserved earier in the meet).

Hope that makes enough since you get how to plan your strategy.

[DavidCorperial]

All Out for jump number 2 for Ginsberg

[PilotMan]

General Update

All, I got a PM question about attempts and I want to take a second to try and clarify my earlier post about fatigue.

Basically, with every field event you get multiple chances for a result. 3 jumps in the long jump, 3 throws in shot putt, javelin, and discuss. The high jump and the pole vault you continue to jump until you get 3 consecutive misses or you elect to stop. From a fatigue perspective you are allowed 7 without penalty. However, for every jump/throw you skip in the other field events with multiple opportunities, you will gain another jump attempt in the high jump or pole vault. Moreover, if you save a significant number of attempts, you could be granted another allout effort in either the 400, 1500 or javelin (javelin because it would take quite a few extra attempts to get an allout in the 1500 and if you have saved attempts and won't have enough to use in the 1500 the extra rest will allow for an allout attempt in the javelin so you can use that extra energy you strategically conserved earier in the meet).

Hope that makes enough since you get how to plan your strategy.

So how does that play out with the effort points that you PM'd us each before we began?

[PilotMan]

Ack, the bad luck continues.

I guess I'll go Avg on effort #2.

[JAG]

Babson will skip jump #2

[Coffee Warlord]

Shit. Average again.

[Breeze]

So how does that play out with the effort points that you PM'd us each before we began?

It doesn't yet. the only time effort points would come into play is if you elect not to use you extra jumps in the high jump or pole vault. At that point...if you are 2 jumps/throws under your total on day 1...you will get 1 extra effort point that you can use in the 400, or you can save your 2 extra jumps for the pole vault the next day. If you are 4 jumps/throws under you may get 1 more effort point for the 1500. If you are 2 jump/throws under on your last throw in the javelin, so you can't get to 4 total under required for the 1500, then you may go allout in the last javelin throw without using one of your effort points.

[cmp]

Average for the pride of Finland, Paavo Ketola

[chesapeake]

Average for Llyw for jump 2.

[Simbo Klice]

With a result down, Rambis will try an all out jump.

[path12]

Path will skip the second/third attempts.

[ntndeacon]

Average for Palmiero

[Breeze]

some very interesting results already in jump 2...

[Greyfriars Bobby]

Peltonen's going to go for it on his second attempt. All Out.

[tarcone]

Average for Jordan

[Breeze]

Guys, I'm gong on vacation...so this will be quiet for a little over a week. Don't give up on it...we will resume events on Wednesday 8/5...

[PilotMan]

Awesome. Where are you going? We are leaving Wednesday and coming back Monday, so your timing is perfect.

[britrock88]

All-out for Bafou.

[thealmighty]

All out for Al on attempt 2.

[Breeze]

Awesome. Where are you going? We are leaving Wednesday and coming back Monday, so your timing is perfect.

Hey PilotMan,

We just headed to a lake in the North Georgia moutains. Special place to me, as my family had a cabun on that lake when I was in 4th and 5th grade and I spent my entire Summer up there for those years.

Breeze

[Breeze]

I still show:

Rambis Jr
Schaplowsky
Chilton

as needing to get their effort level in...will allow some time given I put this on hold for vacation, but will post results tomorrow morning regardless.

[collegesportsfanms]

Just go average for Schaplowsky

[Simbo Klice]

I'm up there- all out for Rambis Jr.

[BYU 14]

Chilton all out for jump 2

[Breeze]

Event 2 - Long Jump - Jump 2 Results

Babson – Waves off his second attempt…decides rest may be his best option at this point.

Honcho – Fouled on his first attempt, so really needs to score here…He’s off…looks good coming down the runway. Hit’s launches, and the flag is up again. He’s fouled for a second time…now he’ll go into the 3rd jump needing a good jump just to record a score in the event. And the bad luck continues to continue…do you go conservative to insure a score, albeit likely a poor one, or do you roll the dice and go average again, hoping to get something legal[/b]

Ginsberg – Clearly putting more effort into his second jump…Ginsberg flys down the runway, and he walks out of the jump…his steps were off, he’d have fouled for sure, so he just walked through the effort to save himself for his last attempt – Foul Status stays the same

Nielsen – Hoping to avoid heading into the final jump without a score, goes through his routine, executes his jump and lands 26’ 3” into the pit. Very nice result In the average column there are still 6 results better, including a few that are several inches longer. In the allout column 10 of the 18 are better with most being in the 27’ range (but most are low probability rolls)

Ketola – Looking to follow Nielsen’s lead, by overcoming a foul on the first attempt with a big jump on the second. The speed is really good down the runway, solid plant, and leap. This looks like he completely imitated Nielsen. In fact, it looks like the distance is almost the same as well. Final measurement – 26’ 6”… Only 4 jumps higher in the average column…but they really aren’t in bad spots (38, 30, 28, & 22). In the allout column, 9 of the 18 are higher, including the huge 28’ 3” result.

Rambis Jr. – Appears that he’s going hard after this attempt…he’s really pushing himself down the runway, he hits the board and screams – and that doesn’t sound like an effort scream. Watching his jump also indicates something is clearly wrong. He lands in a heap, and is helped out of the pit. As they are walking him away, he appears to be grabbing his hamstring…the resulting jump was also a foul. So you have been injuried…this injury will impact your results moving forward. The doctors have reported this injury is a second stage pull, meaning you will be limited in what you can expect from here on out.

Llyw – Heads down the runway…and he jumps, but again his steps are off and he’s about a half a foot over the board. That leaves the defending champ with only 1 jump left to score in this event. Like Honcho, do you go conservative to get a score or average and hold your breath?

Palmiero – trying to avoid the double foul situation Llyw is in, takes his turn. There is no flag on the leap, and the result is a pretty good 25’ 2” Heading into the last jump I show 12 results still better than your current one in the average column, including a couple in high probability spots. I also show 13 of the 18 allout results are better, but many are in the lower probability rolls

Peltonen – looking to improve on his 24’ 10” jump, which had him in 5th place after round 1, but he has seen his effort bested by several jumpers already in round 2. Down the runway he goes…he leaps, and this one looks better, he drops down in the sand and it looks like he’s about a foot further this time…the measurement is in, and he records a25’ 8” result. There is no result in the average column that will beat this score. In the allout column, I count only 5 better results, 2 of which are only 1” longer.

Jordan – runs, jumps, lands and it looks like he’s continued the string of strong results in this round. His distance is measured at 25’ 7”, a good result that will keep him in the thick of things, with 1 jump remaining. I count 7 results better in the average column, and 12 of the 18 good results better in the allout.

Bafou – looking to improve on his first jump, Bafou appears to be putting much more effort into his second go around. He’s running hard down the path, hits the board, and jumps…landing around the 24’ mark, so it looks like it will be an improvement. And he official distance is dead on 24’. 5 jumps better in the average column, including two in the 30s, and results on 23 and 24. 8 results are still better in the allout column

Mighty – also looking to improve on his first jump, Mighty is going hard after the second attempt. Everything looked great and he landed in the pit beyond the 26’ mark, but his toe was just over the board so it’s not going to count. In the same situation as you were coming into jump 2

Schaplowsky – on his second attempt his timing looked off and he only half jumped into the pit, knowing he had fouled. In the same situation as you were coming into jump 2

Chilton – after a very strong 25’ 8” result that had him in second after the first round of jumps, Chilton has seen 2 people pass and 1 person tie him in the second round. He’s decided to go for it on the second jump…good speed, clean take off, and a nice jump…and it’s clearly an improvement…measurement is in and he lands at 26’ 4” can’t get better in the average column. There are still 7 results better in the allout column

[Coffee Warlord]

With a jump on the books, we'll burn one of our All Out's on Nielsen and see if we can't get a big one.

[DavidCorperial]

All out for Ginsberg again.

[Breeze]

Event 2 - Long Jump Standings (after 2 Jumps)




Ketola 26’ 6”
Chilton 26’ 4”
Nielsen 26’ 3”
Babson 26’ 1”
Peltonen 25’ 8”
Jordan 25’ 7”
Mighty 25’ 5”
Path 25’ 5”
Palmiero 25’ 2”
Rambis Jr. 24’ 6”
Schaplowsky 24’ 3”
Bafou 24’
Ginsberg 23’ 4”
Honcho NS
Llyw NS

[Breeze]

Event 2 - Long Jump - Player Announcements

announce your intentions for the 3rd and final jump of the event now...(I got Nielsen and Ginsbergs)

I will conduct the jump tomorrow around 12 EDT...if you haven't gotten your announcement in I will jump you in the average column (unless you don't currently have a distance recorded in which case I will use the conservative column)

[collegesportsfanms]

I'm debating on using an all-out here, but I'm also a little hesitant If I were to use an all-out on my 3rd jump here, how many all-out attempts would that leave me with? I'm at work and can't seem to figure it out.

[chesapeake]

Bad start. But I'm going to take a risk and put out another average effort.

[ntndeacon]

Average for palmiero

[britrock88]

Average for Bafou.

[collegesportsfanms]

I'm gonna take a chance and go all-out with Schaplowsky's 3rd jump

[JAG]

Babson will skip Jump #3

[PilotMan]

Crap.

All out is too risky at this point, but we need to try for something. Avg for the third jump for Honcho.

[BYU 14]

Chilton will skip jump 3

[Breeze]

We are coming up on the time I set to post results and I still haven't heard from quite a few players. I really don't want to proceed wtihout some guidance, and I'm sure my vacation has probably thrown some people off, so I'm going to hold off until later in the afternoon with hopes I'll get more feedback.

Still waiting on:

Ketola
Jordan
Mighty
Rambis Jr
Peltonen

And Path announced after the first jump he'd skip his last two...he can change that for the last jump if he wants, but if I don't hear, I'll have him pass...

[path12]

Path is still passing. It seemed like what I hit on my first jump is about as good as I'm going to get without going all out, so I'll just take it.

[cmp]

Ketola will skip jump 3.

[Breeze]

Event 2 - Long Jump - 3rd Attempt Results



Nielsen – Looking to uncork a big jump, Nielsen flies down the runway…and he’s off clean – This is going to be a big one…he’s out way beyond his previous effort of 26’ 3”…the final result is a jump of 27’ 2”.

Ginsberg – again looking to improve on his pedestrian 1st jump result which currently has him in last place for anyone that has actually recorded a distance. He’s really going after this final jump – you can see the determination in his expression. He’s got good speed, nice trajectory on the jump…and he’s in the pit close to 25’…no flag so this one is going to count. It’s a good jump 24’ 11” that’ll definitely help his overall score.

Llyw – The defending champ comes into his final jump with no score…this is huge. I talked to him before this effort and he basically said, “going conservative isn’t going to win this thing…so I’m going to take my normal approach, and we’ll see how it goes.” Well…the run and jump looks good, and he ends up with a respectable result of 24’ 5”. That’s about dead on his average jump result…(by the way…on rolled a 36 for your final jump – a 32 – 35 are all fouls – thought you might be interested to know how close it was)

Palmeiro – looking to improve on his previous jump of 25’ 2”, jumps with his toe over the board and fouls on the final attempt. He’ll have to settle for that 25’ 2” distance.

Bafou – takes his 3rd attempt, but he chops off his steps right before the leap so he'd time the jump correctly, and the result is a disappointing 22’ 11” result.

Schaplowsky – Seeing his 24’ 3” result continuing to slide down the leaderboard for this event, prompted Mike to up his effort, unfortunately, that increased intensity resulted in another foul, so he doesn’t improve on his result from the first try.

Babson – Once again waves off his attempt…continuing to rest (or maybe he’s already out of gas…we’ll have to see).

Honcho – sitting on no score, but determined not to give into pressure, Honcho is approaching this like all the other attempts. He heads down the runway…jumps and puts in a good effort, but wait…the white flag is up again. He’s fouled for the 3rd time and will receive no score in this event. What a shame…(the exact opposite of Llyw...your roll was one spot from recording a legit distance)

Chilton – he passes his final attempt and will settle for this 26’ 4” result.

Ketola – elects to conserve some energy and passes his final attempt as well

Jordan – goes for his 3rd jump, and it looks like an instant replay of his first. Foul.

Mighty – gives it a go for his 3rd jump as well, and his too looks like an instant replay of his first jump. The tape comes out…and he matches his distance of 25’ 5”….

Rambis Jr. – On his 3rd attempt, it’s obvious the injury is bothering him, he make a legal jump but only manages 23’ 4”, not better than his first jump.

Peltonen – Passes on his 3rd jump (there was no way to beat the current score, and I wasn’t going to use an allout spot without instruction)

Path - also passes to end the round.

[Breeze]

Event 2 - Long Jump - Standings



Nielsen 27’ 2”
Ketola 26’ 6”
Chilton 26’ 4”
Babson 26’ 1”
Peltonen 25’ 8”
Jordan 25’ 7”
Mighty 25’ 5”
Path 25’ 5”
Palmiero 25’ 2”
Ginsberg 24’ 11”
Rambis Jr. 24’ 6”
Llyw 24’ 5”
Schaplowsky 24’ 3”
Bafou 24’
Honcho NS

[Breeze]

Event 2 - Long Jump - Points



Nielsen 1133
Ketola 1079
Chilton 1066
Babson 1048
Peltonen 1015
Jordan 1007
Mighty 995
Path 995
Palmiero 977
Ginsberg 957
Rambis Jr. 925
Llyw 920
Schaplowsky 908
Bafou 888
Honcho 0

[Breeze]

Event 2 – Long Jump – Recap


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Winners

Nielsen – He was a favorite coming in, but winning a large margin is a win for sure

Babson – Managed to finish 4th and only used 1 jump

Path – Also managed a good score in only 1 jump

Ginsberg - While finishing 10th may not seem like winning, he was arguably one of the 3 worst at this event coming in, so he greatly out performed his standard

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Losers

While we had several athletes that didn’t perform well, there were 2 clear losers in this event:

Honcho – failed to get a score in this event due to three straight fouls. If memory serves, this is the first time we’ve had this occur

Rambis Jr. – While he recorded a score, he also suffered the first injury of the meet, and this early in the event, it will greatly impact his overall score.

[Breeze]

Overall Standings - After 2 Events



Babson 2159
Ketola 2117
Chilton 2092
Nielsen 2088
Jordan 2009
Palmiero 1967
Peltonen 1947
Mighty 1927
Path 1892
Rambis Jr 1891
Ginsberg 1889
Llyw 1852
Bafou 1774
Schalowsky 1738
Honcho 909

[chesapeake]

Close, schmose. I never doubted that I would record a score. The fact that I have been refreshing this page to see the results all afternoon is simply a reflection of my eagerness to see the magnitude of my inevitable success.

[PilotMan]

wow

fuck it, nothing but craziness to play for now. It's gonna be wild now.

[PilotMan]

Event 2 – Long Jump – Recap




---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Losers

Honcho – failed to get a score in this event due to three straight fouls. If memory serves, this is the first time we’ve had this occur



Nice job with that ~ 1/32 chance to get that.

[DavidCorperial]

Really happy with that result, went over my prediction my more than a foot, really impressive.

[collegesportsfanms]

Geez, 2 all-outs wasted already. I hope Schaplowsky picks it up in the later events

[Breeze]

Event 3 - Shot Put - Preview

Favorites

Ketola & Babson


Underdogs

Path, Ginsberg, Chilton, Llyw

[Breeze]

Event 3 - Shot Put - Result Specifics

Chances of Occurance

Conservative
Fouls - 0%
Injuries - 0%

Normal
Fouls - 23.61%
Injuries - 2.31%

Aggressive
Fouls - 47.22%
Injuries - 4.63%

NOTE: Any roll that results in an injury also results in a foul.

[PilotMan]

Avg for Honco

[Breeze]

Event 2 – Long Jump – Card Review

(note: no predictions due to the wide range of results)

Ketola
- SAFE – 58’5” (poor) to 65’8” (poor), average roll appears to be around 61’, with the high probability rolls falling between mid 59’ and lower 62’ results
- AVE – 60’6” (fair) to 68’3” (fair), average roll appears to be around 64’ but there are a wide range of results, high probability rolls mostly in the low 64’ range, but there are a couple poor 61’ results mixed in.
- ALLOUT – 60’2” (average) to 70’ 7” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 67’, high probability rolls are also around 67’, but there are a couple low results like the 60’2” bottom end number on a roll of 24

Babson
- SAFE – 58’6” (high) to 65’8” (poor), average roll appears to be around 61’, with the high probability rolls hovering around in the 59’2” range
- AVE – 59’4” (ave) to 67’6” (rare), average roll appears to be around 65’ with high probability rolls ranging from high 62’ to low 66’
- ALLOUT – 59’4” (ave) to 70’ 5” (poor), average roll appears to be around 66’6” with high probability rolls ranging from mid 66’ as well

Nielsen
- SAFE – 53’3” (average) to 58’11” (poor), average roll appears to be around 55’, with the high probability rolls falling between 54’ and 56’6” range
- AVE – 52’11” (ave) to 61’2” (poor), average roll appears to be around 57’3” with high probability rolls in the upper 57’ range.
- ALLOUT – 55’6” (ave) to 63’ 10” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 58’ with all but 1 high probability roll above 57’4”, that one though is the 55’6” low end result

Honcho
- SAFE – 46’11” (high) to 54’ (poor), average roll appears to be around 50’, with the high probability rolls split between upper 46’ and lower 47’ and upper 51’s and lower 52’
- AVE – 48’5” (ave) to 56’1” (fair), average roll appears to be around 51’6” with high probability rolls mostly around 51’
- ALLOUT – 48’6” (ave) to 62’2” (rare), average roll appears to be around 54’ with high probability rolls also around 54’

Jordan
- SAFE – 53’10” (extremely good) to 59’ (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 55’, but most of the high probability rolls are below the average 55’ result
- AVE – 54’5” (poor) to 61’4” (average), average roll appears to be around 57’6” with high probability rolls in the upper 57’ range.
- ALLOUT – 53’7” (ave) to 63’ 8” (rare), average roll appears to be around 59’4” with most high probability roll above 60’ that one though is the 53’7” low end result mixed in

Mighty
- SAFE – 47’ 2” (high) to 56’4” (poor), average roll appears to be around 50’, with the high probability rolls mostly in the 47’ and 48’ range
- AVE – 49’ (ave) to 57 (average), average roll appears to be around 52’2” with high probability rolls all over the map, from 49’ to 57’
- ALLOUT – 48’ (ave) to 59’ 11” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 54’4” with high probability rolls slightly higher than the average (but the 48’ result is mixed in)

Rambis Jr.
- SAFE – 53’10” (extremely good) to 58’9” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 54’ 10”, but most of the high probability rolls are in the low to mid 54’ range
- AVE – 53’3” (fair) to 60’8” (poor), average roll appears to be around 58’ with high probability rolls in mostly split between 57’ and 59’, with one poor roll mixed in.
- ALLOUT – 53’7” (ave) to 63’ 6” (rare), average roll appears to be around 59’4” with most high probability roll either above 60’ or below 56’2”.

Schaplowsky
- SAFE – 46’ 9” (high) to 56’11” (fair), average roll appears to be around 49’, with the high probability rolls mostly below 48’ 5”
- AVE – 49’5” (fair) to 57’3” (rare), average roll appears to be around 52’ with high probability rolls all over the map, most from 50’ to 54’ 6”
- ALLOUT – 52’11” (ave) to 60’ 10” (rare), average roll appears to be around 55’ with high probability rolls mostly above 57’

Path
- SAFE – 43’ 3” (fair) to 49’3” (fair), average roll appears to be around 45’3”, with the high probability rolls mostly around 45’
- AVE – 43’3” (good) to 51’3” (average), average roll appears to be around 48’4” with high probability rolls basically the same
- ALLOUT – 43’8” (good) to 53’ 4” (rare), average roll appears to be around 52’ with high probability rolls split between 51 to 53 and 45 to 48.

Palmiero
- SAFE – 52’9” (good) to 59’3” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 55’, but most of the high probability rolls are in the low to mid 54’ range
- AVE – 52’11” (average) to 61’4” (average), average roll appears to be around 57’9” with high probability rolls in mostly split between 56’6” or better in most cases (that 52’11” is in a bad spot though)
- ALLOUT – 53’7” (ave) to 62’ 11” (rare), average roll appears to be around 60’ with most high probability roll either above 61’ or below 56’5”.

Ginsberg
- SAFE – 41’ 11” (good) to 48’8” (fair), average roll appears to be around 45’3”, with the high probability rolls mostly around 45’
- AVE – 46’ (poor) to 50’9” (fair), average roll appears to be around 47’6” with high probability averaging around the same
- ALLOUT – 44’10” (good) to 55’10” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 51’ with high probability rolls really spread out 46 highs all the way to 54’ results

Peltonen
- SAFE – 47’ 4” (good) to 54’1” (average), average roll appears to be around 50’, with the high probability rolls most in the 49’ range
- AVE – 49’8” (rare) to 57’5” (average), average roll appears to be around 51’8” with high probability rolls all over the map, most from 50’ to 52’ but a couple results over 56’
- ALLOUT – 50’3” (ave) to 59’ 9” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 53’6” with high probability rolls mostly above 53’4”

Bafou
- SAFE – 47’ 3” (good) to 54’2” (poor), average roll appears to be around 50’, with the high probability rolls also averaging about 50’
- AVE – 48’11” (fair) to 57’ (rare), average roll appears to be around 53’ with high probability rolls mostly above 53’, but a couple poor rolls (50’6” and 48’11”) are lurking.
- ALLOUT – 49’11” (fair) to 60’ 1” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 54’ with high probability rolls either under 53’ or over 54’

Llyw
- SAFE – 42’ 4” (good) to 48’9” (rare), average roll appears to be around 45’, with the high probability rolls mostly around 45’, but a few 46’4” and a 48’ are close.
- AVE – 45’7” (extremely rare) to 51’6” (average), average roll appears to be around 48’ with high probability averaging 48 lows
- ALLOUT – 45’10” (good) to 55’10” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 51’ with high probability ranging from 47’ to 52’ results

Chilton
- SAFE – 43’ 6” (fair) to 48’11” (rare), average roll appears to be around 45’6”, with the high probability rolls mostly around 45’ highs
- AVE – 43’1” (fair) to 51’6” (average), average roll appears to be around 47’10” with high probability averaging above 48’
- ALLOUT – 43’1” (good) to 54’9” (extremely rare), average roll appears to be around 51’ with high probability rolls tough to call…two high probability rolls are in the 43’ range, but most of the rest are over 51’

[Coffee Warlord]

Average for Nielsen sounds good.

[chesapeake]

Average effort.

[Breeze]

Event 3 - Shot Put First Attempt - Player Announcements

Ready for players to announce their effort for this round.

[britrock88]

Average for Bafou.

[cmp]

Average for Ketola

[Breeze]

If I don't hear from everyone, I will execute average throws and post results by 2 EDT tomorrow (8/11)

[path12]

All out for Path.

[JAG]

Average for Babson

[DavidCorperial]

Average for Ginsberg

[collegesportsfanms]

Average for Schaplowsky

[Simbo Klice]

Let's try an all out for Rambis. Nothing to lose now!

[ntndeacon]

average for Palmiero

[Breeze]

Event 3 - Shot Put - First Attempt Update

Still waiting on effort announcements from:

Jordan
Mighty
Peltonen
Chilton

[Breeze]

Event 3 - Shot Put - First Attempt


Honcho – Mike will go first…he makes a strong rotation and huge toss…this one is long. The measurement is in and it’s a 57’ 5” throw. That’s big…maybe competing with no pressure, allowed him to relax and execute. (This is the top throw possible in the Ave column, sorry overlooked this one in the preliminary write up. There are 6 of the 18 positive results in the allout column that are better).

Nielsen – follows Honcho’s lead and also uncorks a big first throw…his measures in a 59’ 3”. (I count 3 better results in the average column, and 12 of the 18 positive results better in the allout)

Llyw – First throw is a good one, but his toe brushed the board, so it isn’t going to count.

Bafou – Another foul…this time Bafou not only hits the board, but steps on top of it…

Ketola – After two really good throws to start off the event, we’ve now had our third straight foul. Ketola bumps the kick board hard and his throw won’t count either.

Path – It must be contagious, Path really went after his first attempt and he hit the board and ended up stepping over it onto the grass…that’s our 4th straight foul.

Babson – looking to break the run of bad luck, Babson takes his time getting set up…he spins, grunts, tosses…no flag, so this one’s going to count, and as expected, it’s going to be good. Well beyond the 2 results currently on the board. The measurement is officially 65’ 1”. (I count 10 results that are still better in the average column, and 13/18 are better in the allout).

Ginsberg – This isn’t a strong event for Ginsberg, so going after that throw from Babson could be intimidating. However, David appears to have stayed within himself, as he uncorks a throw that is a strong one based on his typical results. The distance is officially only 50’ 7”, but that’s really pretty good and probably better than he expected. (There are only 2 results better in the average column 50’ 8” on 31 and 50’ 9” on 39. In the allout 10 of 18 are better)

Schaplowsky – Form was good, but the toe brushed the white board…you can just see the scuff mark. So that is our 5th foul of the round.

Rambis Jr – Though he is hurting, Rambis clearly put everything he had into that toss…and it’s a good one measuring in at 61’…(no better result in the average colum, I count 5 of the 18 still better in the allout column)

Palmiero – Octavio, sets for his turn…twists – tosses, and it seems to have come out of his hand wrong…almost like the put rolled up into the fingers a bit causing a less than productive push. The distance is in and it is a very disappointing 53’ 9”…that is well below even his average performance in this event and you can tell he’s not happy (looks like this is the second worst possible outcome in the average column).

Jordan – Jordan’s effort ends up being very different form Palmiero…his toss is long measuring 61’ 2”. (I count only a 61’4” on 23 as being better in the ave column, and 9/18 are better in the allout)

Mighty – Mighty throws one out in the 53’ range…it’s an ok throw for him…not nearly his best, but it’s a solid start. His official score is 52’ 10” (about dead on average in the average column, all but 1 result in the allout column is better)

Peltonen – Good toss from Peltonen…not quite out there with Nielsen or Honcho, but close…official distance 56’ 4” (I only count 3 results better in the average column, but one is an improvement of almost a foot. In the allout column, I also only count 3 results better…)

Chilton – This isn’t a strong event for Chilton, so he’s hoping for a good start that might allow him to rest or take a few chances. He ends up flipping it out there 48’ 11” (I count 8 results better in average, and 13/18 better in allout)

[Breeze]

Event 3 – Shot Put – Standings After First Attempt



Babson 65’ 1”
Jordan 61’ 2”
Rambis Jr. 61’
Nielsen 59’ 3”
Honcho 57’ 5”
Peltonen 56’ 4”
Palmiero 53’ 9”
Mighty 52’ 10”
Ginsberg 50’ 7”
Chilton 48’ 11”
Ketola NS
Schplowsky NS
Path NS
Bafou NS
Llyw NS

[Breeze]

Event 3 - Shot Put - Second Attempt Announcement

Make your announcements for throw 2...

[DavidCorperial]

All out for Ginsberg

[Coffee Warlord]

Nielsen will do 1 All Out, and then rest on throw 3.

[collegesportsfanms]

Just to get on the board, Schaplowsky will go safe for throw 2

[Breeze]

I'd like to post the results for round 2 tomorrow afternoon, but we'll see how any people get their level of effort in. If there are a bunch missing I'll probably wait until Thursday morning.

[path12]

All out again for Path.

[cmp]

Average for Ketola

[britrock88]

Average for Bafou.

[chesapeake]

The pressure is clearly getting to Llyw. Average, again.

[Simbo Klice]

Not bad at all for Rambis, he will rest for the remainder of the event.

[JAG]

Babson passes on toss 2

[PilotMan]

Honcho all out toss 2.

[Greyfriars Bobby]

Average for Peltonen on his second attempt.

[BYU 14]

All out for Chilton

[Breeze]

We are doing good...just need effort annoucements from:

Jordan
Mighty
Palmiero

[ntndeacon]

Ave. For palmiero

[thealmighty]

avg. for Mighty

[Breeze]

I'm going to give tarcone (Jordan) a little bit longer to check in. But given he's the only one who hasn't reported and about the only thing he can really do to improve is go allout; I'm going to post the results shortly and if I don't hear anything I'll have Jordan pass

[Breeze]

Event 3 – Shot Put – Second Attempt

Ginsberg – After a good first throw…Ginsberg really went after his second one – and he launched a beauty. He ended up recording a distance of 55’ 1”…(I only count 1 result that is better and it is a 1/216 chance of occurring. Also…you just so you know…you rolled a 12…there are injuries on 10, 11, and 13.)

Nielsen – Also sitting on a pretty good score after round 1, elects to really go after it in round two, and like Ginsberg it appears that it is going to pay off. This is a big toss…it measures in at 61’ 11”…(I know you are planning on skipping the final toss, but just so you know…there are only 3 of 18 results better)

Schaplowsky – After seeing Honcho fail to record a score in the long jump, Schaplowsky backs off a bit on his second attempt here to insure a good result. The toss is actually pretty good considering the turned down effort and the distance is recorded as 53’ 7” (I count 8 better results in the average column, and 15/18 better in the allout)

Path – Path’s coach has informed me that he isn’t backing off in order to record a score…he’s going after it again with his second attempt. There’s the throw…and it’s pretty good for him. It measures in at 53’ 4”, which doesn’t sound all the impressive given some other distances, but this ties his personal best (you have maxed out this event, there are no better results anywhere on your card)

Ketola – Trying to get a good throw on the board, Ketola executes beautifully and gets the put out there 65’ 11’. A really good result, but he’s done better in the past. (I show 4 results better in average, and 12/18 better in allout)

Bafou – Also looking to get on the board. No flag goes up this time, so this throw will count. His distance is a solid one for him - 53’. (about dead middle in the results of average, and 13/18 better in allout)

Llyw – Llyw has really struggled so far in the field events…it took until the 3rd attempt on the long jump to record a good score, and he’s fouled the first time on the shot put. He’s second turn is better…he’ll record a score this time around. Llyw isn’t good at this event, so the measurement of 47’ 10” sounds poor, but honestly it isn’t terrible based on his history – in fact, it’s pretty standard. (About half the results in average are still better and all but 2 are better in allout)

Rambis Jr – Dealing with his injury and coming off a very strong effort in the first throw, Rambis is passing on his second attempt, and it won’t surprise me if he packs it in on the third as well.

Babson – Babson, like Rambis has waived off his second attempt…this meet couldn’t be going any better for Babson at this point. He nailed his first attempts at long jump and shot put which has allowed him to get rest…as even doing one attempt appears to be exhausting for him.

Honcho – Looking to improve on his strong first effort, it’s obvious Honcho has picked up the effort…unfortunately, he hits the toe board and the white flag is raised.

Peltonen - Peltonen makes his second attempt, and it’s another good one, it doesn’t appear to have reached the distance of the first throw, but we’ll have to wait for the official word. The scoreboard flashes a distance of 54’ 1”…so no improvement this round. (same situation as previous result)

Chilton – Chilton grunts loudly on his toss, and it is a decent one…but nope, the white flag is raised late so the official result is a foul.

Palmiero – Hoping to improve on the poor result from the first throw, Palmiero is a little off balance and end up stepping over the toe board for a foul.

Mighty – A sloppy effort from Might results in a foul.

Jordan – Passes his second attempt (not going to use an attempt where there is only 1 better outcome and not going to use an allout without instruction)

[DavidCorperial]

Ginsberg passes on attempt 3.

[Breeze]

Event 3 – Shot Put – Standings After Second Attempt



Ketola 65’ 11”
Babson 65’ 1”
Nielsen 61’ 11”
Jordan 61’ 2”
Rambis Jr. 61’
Honcho 57’ 5”
Peltonen 56’ 4”
Ginsberg 55’ 1”
Palmiero 53’ 9”
Schplowsky 53’ 7”
Path 53’ 4”
Bafou 53’
Mighty 52’ 10”
Chilton 48’ 11”
Llyw 47’ 10”

[Breeze]

Event 3 - Shot Put - Player Announcements - 3rd Attempt

Ready for 3rd attempt announcements

[Coffee Warlord]

Yep, the mighty Dane is cracking open a beer and kicking back.

[britrock88]

All out for Bafou.

[ntndeacon]

ave again for Palmiero

[collegesportsfanms]

Schaplowsky will take his chances with average again. After all, his stats are all average, so this seems to be the way to go

[Greyfriars Bobby]

Average for Peltonen on his final throw.

[PilotMan]

Rest for the final jump for Honcho.

[thealmighty]

Mighty must go all out.

[BYU 14]

Yikes, Chilton will go average and play it safe

[path12]

Path will pass on his final attempt.

[JAG]

Babson will pass again.

[cmp]

Ketola will pass

[Breeze]

Just waiting on:

Llyw
Rambis (I know you are planning to pass...if I don't hear, I will pass)
Jordan (I will pass here again unless I hear otherwise...again I won't go allout without instruction and there is no need to take an average attempt at this point)

[Breeze]

I'll post results tomorrow morning...

[Breeze]

Event 3 – Shot Put – Third Attempt

Ginsberg – Passes as it would take a personal best toss to beat his current distance

Nielsen – Happy with his current result, Nielsen also passes

Bafou – with a score on record, Bafou picks up his effort, but it is wasted when he fouls.

Palmiero – Palmiero still looking to improve on his poor first attempt, lines up, spins, tosses, he’s off balance…and he steps out of the ring…that’s a foul and Octavio is going to be stuck with the result from his first subpar effort.

Schaplowsky – Takes his 3rd turn, he launches, and almost immediately turns to walk off…there’s not white flag, so it isn’t a foul, but the toss is well short of his previous attempt and he must have know it almost immediately…distance is 50’

Peltonen - On his 3rd attempt he fouls – so his first throw ends up being the one of record.

Honcho – Waves off his 3rd attempt…

Mighty – Wanting to try for a big score, Mighty really goes after his final attempt, and it isn’t going to matter as the white flag is raised. He must have hit the toe board.

Chilton – Not surprisingly Chilton finds himself at the bottom of the leaderboard in this event…so he wants another go to try an better his result. He tosses and it’s a clean throw, but not a good one. It measures in at 46’ 5” – so no improvement this time around.

Path – Passes his final attempt – not a surprise considering the Russian has tied his personal best in this event

Babson – The extra rest continues…passes on his turn for the 4th time already this meet.

Ketola – With a nice lead in the event, Ketola has elected to rest.

Llyw – Wanting to improve on his current throw, Llyw takes his 3rd chance, and goes through the routine, tosses and it appears short of his 47’ 10” throw from the second attempt. The official measurement confirms my suspicion as it’s reported at 46’ 4”

Rambis Jr – Rambis passes again on, as he continues to get treatment on his injury

Jordan – Passes his last attempt.

[ntndeacon]

Ave again for Palmiero

[Breeze]

Event 3 – Shot Put – Final Standings



Ketola 65’ 11”
Babson 65’ 1”
Nielsen 61’ 11”
Jordan 61’ 2”
Rambis Jr. 61’
Honcho 57’ 5”
Peltonen 56’ 4”
Ginsberg 55’ 1”
Palmiero 53’ 9”
Schplowsky 53’ 7”
Path 53’ 4”
Bafou 53’
Mighty 52’ 10”
Chilton 48’ 11”
Llyw 47’ 10”




There was no change in the standings from round two as all throws failed to beat distances already on record

[Breeze]

Event 3 – Shot Put – Points



Ketola 1105
Babson 1090
Nielsen 1028
Jordan 1015
Rambis Jr 1012
Honcho 944
Peltonen 924
Ginsberg 900
Palmiero 875
Schalowsky 872
Path 867
Bafou 861
Mighty 857
Chilton 784
Llyw 764

[Breeze]

Event 3 – Shot Put – Recap

Winners

Babson – Again was able to rest 2 of the 3 chances and still finished 2nd in the event
Rambis – Also able to rest 2 times and with the injury that can be huge
Ginsberg – Almost maxed out his event
Path – Did max out this event
Nielsen – Only 3 results better on the entire card

Losers

Palmiero – poor first throw followed by two fouls hurts
Bafou – average result for the card, but with so many winners in this event, he loses ground to the field
Llyw – Same situation as Bafou

[Breeze]

Overall Standings – After 3 Events



Babson 3246
Ketola 3219
Nielsen 3113
Jordan 3021
Rambis Jr 2900
Chilton 2873
Peltonen 2868
Palmiero 2839
Ginsberg 2786
Mighty 2781
Path 2756
Bafou 2632
Llyw 2613
Schalowsky 2607
Honcho 1850

[Breeze]

Standings Review

Babson is clearly establishing himself as the person to beat right now, but the next couple of events aren't his best, so the field could make a move. In fact, several of the athletes currently at the bottom of the standings are in a position to start climbing as we are reaching the events where they will be the favorites.

[Breeze]

Event 4 - High Jump - Ground Rules

The mechanics of the high jump are different from the other events (Pole Vault will be done the same way when we get there), so I want to take a moment to try and explain how this event runs in hopes of avoiding any confusion.

The event will start with an announced height (probably 6' 5") and you will either pass or choose to jump. Once you've passed or cleared the bar the height is raised 1". It is important to note that once the bar is raised it will not be lowered again, so you can't go back and clear a lower height to insure a score. Also, you don't have to clear a height to jump a the a higher level. For instance, if you miss a lower height you were hoping to get in order to insure a score, rather than try that height again, you can wait until the bar gets higher. You will continue to eligable to jump until you have 3 straight misses, regardless of height, or until you announce you are finished with the event.

Given that you can keep going until you have 3 misses, obviously, it is possible to take quite a few jumps based on how the dice rolls work out for you. Therefore it is important to note that each athlete gets 7 jumps without a fatigue penalty. In addition, for each attempt that was passed in the long jump and shot put, you also get an attempt without penalty (or you can save those extra attempts for the pole vault or to potentially trade them in for additional allout chances in the 400 or the 1500).

Let me know if you have any questions...this is historically the most confusing point of the dynasty.

Do to the fact this event requires numerous interactions I know that doing these through PM work the best...I won't announce results (and I ask you don't mention them) until everyone is finished, but by doing this through PM we can knock it out typically in a matter of minutes whereas doing it through the dynasty thread would take days.

I'll be posting a card breakdown for everyone soon...


A couple of notes that became obvious after starting the jumps

1. You will select your starting height - previously it was easy to determine a lowest value but now the range is much more diverse
2. When you announce your height you will also need to let me know effort.

[Breeze]

Event 4 – High Jump – Preview


Favorites

Chilton & Llyw


Underdogs

Ketola, Babson, Honcho & Rambis Jr.

[Breeze]

Event 4 – High Jump – Result Specifics

Chances of Occurance

Conservative
Fouls - 0%
Injuries - 0%

Normal
Misses – 5.6%
Injuries - .94%

Aggressive
Misses – 8.3%
Injuries – 1.9%

NOTE: Any roll that results in an injury also results in a miss

[Breeze]

Event 4 – High Jump – Card Review

In this event, the safe column is more tightly bunched results and as your effort goes up the risk reward goes up. In most cases you’ll see better high end results as effort increases, but the average result may go down or stay the same.

Because we are going to do these results through PM, I can help guide you more as we progress…


Ketola
Safe – High is 6’ 3” (ave) , low is 5’ 10”(high) – most results are between 5’11” and 6’
Ave – 6’ 6” is high, and there are a couple in good high probability spots. Low is 5’ 10”, but only 1. Average result appears to be around 6’ 2”
Allout – 7’ on a rare roll, but a nice 6’ 11” on 35, plus a couple results of 6’6” or better also in the 30s. Low end is a 5’ 7” (low). Average result appears to be around 6’
Prediction – 6’ 2”

Babson
Safe – similar car to Ketola, only the high appears to be 6’2” (good) and low is 5’ 10” (high). Average result is probably 6’
Ave – 6’ 5” appears to be the high and it really isn’t a very likely result. 5’ 8” (fair) is the low. Average here is 6’1”.
Allout – 7’ on 30 is the top end, with several 5’ 8”s floating around. Average result appears to be about 6’
Prediction – 6’ 2”

Nielsen
Safe – low end is 5’ 11” (fair), and high end is 6’8” (rare), but there are several 6’7”s floating around. Ave is 6’ 4”
Ave – 6’1” is low end, and it appears a couple of times making is an average chance of hitting it. High end is 6’ 9”, also shows up a couple of times in decent spots. Average result is 6’ 6”
Allout – high is 7’ 1” in a fair location. There are 3 other 7’ results combining to get a good probability. Low end appear to be 6’ 1”, average is probably 6’ 3”
Prediction – 6’ 6”

Honcho
Safe – 6’ 3” in a reasonable spot, low is 5’ 6”- seriously 5’6” (extremely rare), average jump is 5’ 11”.
Ave – High is 6’5” two of them sitting on 33 and 35…very nice. Low is 5’ 8” (fair). Average result is 6’ 1”
Allout – 6’ 11” is high…on the 33 again so good. 5’7 “ is low and several 5’ 8”s as well. Average result here is probably 6’
Prediction – 6’ 3”

Jordan
Safe – 5’ 11”is low…3 of them in the middle of the 10s, 20s & 30s. High is 6’8” on 29 and 30 or fair. Average result is 6’6”
Ave – low is 5’ 11 (rare), high is 6’ 11” (rare). Ave result is 6’ 7” and there are a bunch of those
Allout – 7’ is high end, and there are 2 in the 30s plus 1 in the 10s…good chance. Low end is 5’ 11: in a bad spot (32). Ave result is around 6’ 4”
Prediction – 6’ 8”

Mighty
Safe – low is 6’5” and there are a bunch of them in the low 20s and teens. High is 6’ 11” (fair). The average result is 6’ 7”
Ave – the high is 7’2” (rare), and there are 2 other 7’ or better results and 7 that are 6’ 11”. Low end is 6’ 3” (ave). Average result is 6’ 9”
Allout – 7’ 3” (fair) is high, but 4 other 7’ or better results in the 30s, low is 6’3” (ave). Average result is 6’ 7”
Prediction – 6’ 11”

Rambis, Jr.
Safe – low 5’ 6” (extremely rare), high is 6’ 3” (fair). Average result is 6’
Ave – 5’ 8” (rare), high is 6’ 6” (good), Ave result is 6’ 2”
Allout – 5’ 8” (rare), High is 6’ 7” (fair). Ave result is 6’
Prediction – 6’ 2”

Schaplowsky
Safe – low is 6’ 1” and there are several, high is 6’ 9” on 31. Ave result is 6’ 5”
Ave – low is 6’ 3” (fair), and high is 7’. There are 6 results of 6’ 11” or better. Ave is 6’ 8”
Allout – low is 6’ 3” (fair), 4 results over 7’ , ave is 6’ 7”
Prediction – 6’ 11”

Path
Safe – 6’2” (rare) is low and 6’ 11” (fair) is high. Ave result is 6’ 6”
Ave – 7’ 2” (fair) is high with four 6’ 11” results also in the column, low is 6’ 2” (fair). Ave result is 6’ 9”
Allout – 4 results over 7’ (good), low is in the 6’ 3” range (good) and average result is 6’ 7”
Prediction – Path – 6’ 10”

Palmiero
Safe – 5’ 11” low (poor) and 6’ 7” (fair) high, average is 6’ 3”
Ave – 6’ 1” is low (poor) and 6’ 11” (fair) is high. Average is 6’ 7”
Allout – Low is 6’ 1” and there are several, High is 7’ 1” (fair), 2 other 7’ results and a couple high probability 6’ 11”s around.
Prediction 6’ 9”

Ginsberg
Safe – 5’ 11” (fair) low end, and 6’ 8” (fair) high end. Average result is 6’ 3”
Ave – 6’ 1” (rare) low and 6’ 9” (fair) high. Average is 6’ 6”
Allout – 7’ 1” (fair), 2 other rare 7’ results, low end is 6’1” and there are several of them. Average is 6’ 4”
Prediction – 6’ 7”

Peltonen
Safe – low 6’ 1” (fair), high 6’ 11” (Fair), Average is 6’ 7”
Ave –low 6’ 3” (fair), High 7’ 1” (ave), Ave result is 6’ 9”
Allout – low 6’ 3” (very rare), High 7’ 3” (fair), 4 results over 7’, Average is 6’ 8”
Prediction – 6’ 9”

Bafou
Safe – low 6’ 2” (fair), high is 6’ 11” (fair), but really bunched up results from 6’5” to 6’8”…ave 6’ 7”
Ave – two 6’ 3” (ave) results in the 30s for a low end is bad luck, 7’ (poor) on the high, ave result is around 6’ 9”
Allout – a very rare 6’ 3” is the low, and high is two 7’ 3”s with decent probability. In all there are four 7’ results or better, aver result is 6’ 7”
Prediction – 6’ 8”

Llyw
Safe – low is 6’ 7” and there are several, high is two 7’ 3” results in good spots. Ave result is 6’ 10”
Ave – 6’ 7” (fair), high is 7’ 6” (ave)…it appears a little more than half the results are over 7’ with several 6’ 11”s too…Ave result 7’ 1”
Allout - Low is 6’ 7” and there are a bunch, high is 7’ 9”(fair) – 8 total results over 7’. Ave result is 6’ 10”
Prediction – 7’ 3”

Chilton
Safe – low is 6’ 3” (fair), High is 7’ 3” (ave)…average result is around 6’ 10”
Ave – low is 6’ 7”, but both in the 30s which is bad, high is 7’ 7” (rare), about half of the results are over 7’, average is 7’1”
Allout – low is 6’ 6” (rare), high is 7’ 6”, two of them combined you have a fair shot of hitting them. There are eight 7’ or better results in the column, including two 7’4” results on high probability outcomes of 33 and 35.
Prediction 7’ 3”

[Breeze]

Event 4 - High Jump - Player Coordination

I am ready to work through PM with anyone that is ready to begin...

[Breeze]

Event 4 - High Jump - Status

Finished

Ginsberg
Schplowsky

In Progress

Ketola

[Breeze]

Event 4 - High Jump - Status

About to head home for the weekend...here is where I stand

Finished

Ketola
Schaplowsky
Palmiero
Ginsberg
Bafou

In Progress

Nielsen
Rambis Jr
Llyw


I will pick up anything outstanding on Monday...

[Breeze]

Event 4 - High Jump - Status

About to head home for the weekend...here is where I stand

Finished

Ketola
Schaplowsky
Palmiero
Ginsberg
Bafou
Rambis Jr
Llyw

In Progress

Nielsen
Mighty
Path

Not Started

Babson
Honcho
Peltonen
Chilton
Jordan




We are back in business this morning...

[Breeze]

Event 4 - High Jump - Note

I wanted to let everyone know that I'm hoping to have this event finished by tomorrow afternoon. I wanted to get that message out because this is one event that it isn't easy to do without instructions. Given that I can't possibly know when you'd prefer to jump and skip. That stated, if I don't hear from you prior to tomorrow I will run the event for you by starting at the average result in the conservative column specified in the write up. All jumps will be conducted in the average column and your player will jump each height (no skips) until 7 jumps have been complete or 3 consecutive misses have occurred.

Hope that's clear.

[Breeze]

Event 4 - High Jump - Status

About to head home for the weekend...here is where I stand

Finished

Ketola
Schaplowsky
Palmiero
Ginsberg
Bafou
Rambis Jr
Llyw
Babson
Nielsen


In Progress

Mighty
Path

Not Started

Honcho
Peltonen
Chilton
Jordan

[Breeze]

Heading out for the day...if you only get on the board at night and want to send me instructions I basically just need starting height and effort level, followed by instuctions for total jumps, where to go for the next height once you cleared and any changes in effort.

[PilotMan]

I could have done it today, but forgot. I'll try and catch you tomorrow.

[Breeze]

I'm available, get your instructions in by 1 EDT or I'll be running your event based on the information outlined above.

[Breeze]

Event 4 - High Jump - Status

About to head home for the weekend...here is where I stand

Finished

Ketola
Schaplowsky
Palmiero
Ginsberg
Bafou
Rambis Jr
Llyw
Babson
Nielsen
Honcho


In Progress

Mighty
Path

Not Started

Peltonen (heard from but haven't started)
Chilton
Jordan

[Breeze]

Event 4 - High Jump

6'

Rambis – miss – terrible approach…chopped into the jump might have cleared 5’7” with some luck

Honcho – clear – easily gets over the opening height…

Rambis – clear – much better this time as he clears it with room to spare.

[Breeze]

Event 4 - High Jump

6' 1"

Rambis - Pass

Ketola – clears – it’s close, but Ketola sneaks over the bar

Babson – clears – your leader starts at 6’ 1” and easily clears the height

Honcho - pass