Levant2494
11-11-2023, 01:52 PM
I'm in the process of porting over a copy of the Complete World Names Database 2.0 mod by Dogzilla made for OOTP.
I will not incorporate most of the name sets in that database other than nations and ethnicities that have any (even if it's very small) presence in Gridiron Football as that mod was made originally for the world of Baseball. I would however welcome suggestions for a small portion of name sets from the mod in question to be incorporated into the first_names_3 file as I recall that being where 0.2% of the names chosen to come from, mostly being reserved for Nicknames and therefore I can use that to reserve more uncommon names.
It will take me an undisclosed amount of time to test and port over names. I think the only way to control assignment is in the amount of weight you give frequency so as I work on this please be mindful that the first few versions of this mod might only add more variety rather than realism until I put time into researching the proper weighing of frequency. I might use the same weighing system the original mod has used in OOTP as a baseline but since this game goes on a per-name basis this might be harder to ascertain.
I assure you I will be aware of this and thus why I am not offering an ETA on completion. I am making a thread mostly not to derail any other conversations as I currently am working on the mod and is intended to currently be more of a statement of intent. At the very least as at the time I am making this thread, I'm currently working on it and will edit this post with the files once I feel it's all in working order and won't mess with or corrupt your drafts.
I've decided to be transparent on which sets I'm pulling from the mod I'm getting this from and where so everyone can see what I am adding, some of these (such as the Haitian nameset) are because there are players in the league of parents from the country and while the country itself doesn't play our brand of football, people of the heritage have. I've looked through a few of the American-centric sets and I have considered this to provide enough variety given that the vast majority of football players are North American (11/13/2023)
Lastly the source of the original mod for OOTP: Complete World Names Database 2.0 - OOTP Developments Forums (https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/showthread.php?t=337949)
(Sets to be Ported)
0 American (Caucasian) (Completed 11/13/2023)
30 Polynesian (Completed 11/14/2023)
38 African-American (Completed 11/14/2023)
46 English-Caribbean (Completed 11/15/2023)
47 Southeast-Asian-American (Completed 11/15/2023)
54 Hispanic-American (Completed 11/14/2023)
60 East-Asian-American (Completed 11/15/2023)
67 Native-American(Completed 11/15/2023)
72 Quebecois (Completed 11/15/2023)
91 English-Pacific (Completed 11/15/2023)
192 Anglo-Irish (Completed 11/15/2023)
199 Barbadan (Completed 11/15/2023)
203 Trinidadian (Completed 11/15/2023)
205 Jamaican (Completed 11/15/2023)
214 Bahaman (Completed 11/15/2023)
221 Haitian (Completed 11/15/2023)
222 Canadian (Completed 11/15/2023)
In Consideration:
105 Samoan (Within November)
106 Tongan (Within November)
180 Puerto-Rican
185 Australian
186 Mexican
187 Cuban
189 East-Asian-Hispanic
190 Maori (Within November)
200 Carib-Indian (No present ETA)
201 Carib-Muslim (No present ETA)
202 Carib-Asian (No present ETA)
[Sets that will be added but will have to play with to weigh less]
7 German
8 French
9 Italian
16 Scottish
20 English
70 Spanish (includes Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, etc)
71 Dominican
75 Argentine-Italian
80 Brazilian
85 Welsh
180 Puerto-Rican
182 Austrian
185 Australian
186 Mexican
187 Cuban
189 East-Asian-Hispanic
198 British Virgin Islands
204 Guyanese
206 Grenadan
207 St.Vincentian
208 St.Lucian
209 Dominica(n)
210 Antiguan
211 Anguillan
212 Montserrat
213 St.Kitts & Nevis
214 Bahaman
215 Cayman Islands
216 Turks & Caicos
217 Bermudan
All last names from the sets I'm planning to port will go into the last names csv most likely weighed the same as in the XML or some currently undetermined degree of magnitude less (probably 30%-60% less the more uncommon the nationality but I will take into consideration the number of times it appears throughout the various sets to better determine frequency.)
I will not incorporate most of the name sets in that database other than nations and ethnicities that have any (even if it's very small) presence in Gridiron Football as that mod was made originally for the world of Baseball. I would however welcome suggestions for a small portion of name sets from the mod in question to be incorporated into the first_names_3 file as I recall that being where 0.2% of the names chosen to come from, mostly being reserved for Nicknames and therefore I can use that to reserve more uncommon names.
It will take me an undisclosed amount of time to test and port over names. I think the only way to control assignment is in the amount of weight you give frequency so as I work on this please be mindful that the first few versions of this mod might only add more variety rather than realism until I put time into researching the proper weighing of frequency. I might use the same weighing system the original mod has used in OOTP as a baseline but since this game goes on a per-name basis this might be harder to ascertain.
I assure you I will be aware of this and thus why I am not offering an ETA on completion. I am making a thread mostly not to derail any other conversations as I currently am working on the mod and is intended to currently be more of a statement of intent. At the very least as at the time I am making this thread, I'm currently working on it and will edit this post with the files once I feel it's all in working order and won't mess with or corrupt your drafts.
I've decided to be transparent on which sets I'm pulling from the mod I'm getting this from and where so everyone can see what I am adding, some of these (such as the Haitian nameset) are because there are players in the league of parents from the country and while the country itself doesn't play our brand of football, people of the heritage have. I've looked through a few of the American-centric sets and I have considered this to provide enough variety given that the vast majority of football players are North American (11/13/2023)
Lastly the source of the original mod for OOTP: Complete World Names Database 2.0 - OOTP Developments Forums (https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/showthread.php?t=337949)
(Sets to be Ported)
0 American (Caucasian) (Completed 11/13/2023)
30 Polynesian (Completed 11/14/2023)
38 African-American (Completed 11/14/2023)
46 English-Caribbean (Completed 11/15/2023)
47 Southeast-Asian-American (Completed 11/15/2023)
54 Hispanic-American (Completed 11/14/2023)
60 East-Asian-American (Completed 11/15/2023)
67 Native-American(Completed 11/15/2023)
72 Quebecois (Completed 11/15/2023)
91 English-Pacific (Completed 11/15/2023)
192 Anglo-Irish (Completed 11/15/2023)
199 Barbadan (Completed 11/15/2023)
203 Trinidadian (Completed 11/15/2023)
205 Jamaican (Completed 11/15/2023)
214 Bahaman (Completed 11/15/2023)
221 Haitian (Completed 11/15/2023)
222 Canadian (Completed 11/15/2023)
In Consideration:
105 Samoan (Within November)
106 Tongan (Within November)
180 Puerto-Rican
185 Australian
186 Mexican
187 Cuban
189 East-Asian-Hispanic
190 Maori (Within November)
200 Carib-Indian (No present ETA)
201 Carib-Muslim (No present ETA)
202 Carib-Asian (No present ETA)
[Sets that will be added but will have to play with to weigh less]
7 German
8 French
9 Italian
16 Scottish
20 English
70 Spanish (includes Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, etc)
71 Dominican
75 Argentine-Italian
80 Brazilian
85 Welsh
180 Puerto-Rican
182 Austrian
185 Australian
186 Mexican
187 Cuban
189 East-Asian-Hispanic
198 British Virgin Islands
204 Guyanese
206 Grenadan
207 St.Vincentian
208 St.Lucian
209 Dominica(n)
210 Antiguan
211 Anguillan
212 Montserrat
213 St.Kitts & Nevis
214 Bahaman
215 Cayman Islands
216 Turks & Caicos
217 Bermudan
All last names from the sets I'm planning to port will go into the last names csv most likely weighed the same as in the XML or some currently undetermined degree of magnitude less (probably 30%-60% less the more uncommon the nationality but I will take into consideration the number of times it appears throughout the various sets to better determine frequency.)