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FrogMan 04-07-2003 07:59 PM

Official FOFC Hattrick Rankings for week 19.01
 
The new Hattrick season is finally underway, this must means that new FOFC Hattrick ratings are available. WELL, YEAH!!!

I'll get to them in a moment, for now, some explanations...
- TW stands for "This Week"
- LW stand for "Last Week"
- The first set of numbers (to the left of the team names) represents the relative ranking of every team. A blank in either column means that team wasn't ranked that week.
- The second set of numbers (to the right of the FOFC member name) represents the rankings points scored for the last two week.
- The rankings points for a given week are calculated using a weighted moving average of that week's NSI points and the score of the previous two weeks' NSI points.
- "NSI points" is the sum of all your position ratings from your game report, with midfield counting as triple its value
- Ratings are scored with the base value set at disastrous = 1, wretched = 2, and so on.

Below, you will find a text formatted version of the rankings, but they are available on the web, GO TO THE OFFICIAL FOFC HATTRICK RANKINGS HOME ON THE WEB

Finally, some comments about this week's rankings:
  • As expected, TargetPractice6's team stands at the top of our rankings. Hey what did you expect from a division II team? Now we all really got something to shoot for. Ready TP? ;)
  • Congratulations to some real newly ranked team, especially Qwikshot's team that enters the rankings in 8th place with 54 points, and a few others with some strong perormances around 43-44 points (GoldenEagle, fantastic flying froggies, RonnieDobb). Many of you have done your homework in this pas offseason...
  • Best moves upwards include dacman (up 13 spots) and Vince (up 28 spots). As you'll see on the website, I consider up to be good and down to be bad, as going up a ladder... Sorry if I missed your team's achievement, feel free to brag about it ;)

That's about it for me, enjoy the rankings. As always, your comments are welcome and bragging is encouraged :D If you have any question about my very scientific methodology, feel free to ask :)

FrogMan


Code:

  RANK                                                                    POINTS
 TW  LW  Team                            FOFC member                  TW      LW
  1      Airborne Penguins              TargetPractice6              76.3
  2    1  Screamin' Seamen                DataKing                    65.2    62.8
  3    3  Gargoyles                      Raven Hawk                  65.0    60.8
  4    2  SouthPark Cows                  lytic                        63.0    61.3
  5    4  Slumlords                      winking pirate              58.3    54.7
  6    7  MoKan Mighty Bastards          Meanstrosity                55.8    52.7
  7    5  North County Raiders            Ardent Enthusiast            54.5    54.3
  8      Ultra Nox                      Qwikshot                    54.0
  9    6  Long Island Pride              NYFAN                        53.2    52.8
 10    8  Calibiri                        Daedalus                    52.2    52.5
 11  10  Aardvarks                      Aylmar                      51.2    49.2
 12    9  NE Oklahoma Sidekicks          vexroid                      50.5    50.2
 12  16  Hamas Mad Bombers              astralhaze                  50.5    46.0
 14  12  Cedar Pond Horned Toads        HornedFrog Purple            48.8    47.8
 14  11  Ruskies                        The_herd                    48.8    48.3
 16  16  Houston Hippopotami            sterlingice                  48.5    46.0
 17  13  Morrisville Morrisvillians      NevStar                      47.7    47.2
 18  19  Aviators                        damnMikeBrown                47.5    45.5
 19  14  Galesburg Avengers              Coffee Warlord              47.3    47.0
 20  24  Midwest Ice Storm FC            Pilotman                    46.8    42.7
 21  21  Blade Bombers                  Blade6119                    45.8    44.0
 22  45  S. Boston Hooligans            McSweeny                    45.7    40.0
 23  18  Arkham Avengers                Nylarlahotep                45.0    45.8
 24  20  Alf Trickers                    Alf                          44.8    44.8
 24  25  Cowtown FC                      Mrushh                      44.8    42.5
 24  29  Louisiana Cyclones              Doug5984                    44.8    41.7
 27  14  Bees                            ausonny                      44.5    47.0
 27  25  goldurnears                    robbgmaier                  44.5    42.5
 29      Golden Eagles FC                GoldenEagle                  44.0
 30  39  Fairfax Admirals                awm9a                        43.8    40.7
 30  31  Chesapeake Cheapshots          Quiksand                    43.8    41.5
 32  23  Bull Dogs                      Eilim                        43.7    43.0
 33  28  Negative Waves                  moriarty                    43.5    41.8
 34  47  Rochester Roosters              dacman                      43.2    39.3
 34  62  Isla Vista Vandals              Vince                        43.2    34.0
 36      Fantastic Flying Froggies      fantastic flying froggies    43.0
 36      Boston Wyckyd Sceptre          RonnieDobbs                  43.0
 36  27  Scranton Slime                  TredWel                      43.0    42.3
 39  29  Concord Assassins              BishopMVP                    42.8    41.7
 40  68  Slithy Toves                    Brillig                      42.7    32.0
 41  31  Oklahoma City Rednecks          Airhog                      42.2    41.5
 42      Tomahawks                      -Panther                    42.0
 43  38  Pintendre Pittbulls            FrogMan                      41.5    40.8
 44  50  Goldfish                        MikeVic                      41.3    38.0
 44  39  White Sox Pride                Aesyrqwe                    41.3    40.7
 44  34  Seagrove United                auwillie                    41.3    41.2
 47  31  Bbors                          bbor                        41.2    41.5
 47  48  G-Vegas FC                      Easy Mac                    41.2    39.0
 47  22  FC Hartford                    samifan24                    41.2    43.8
 50  35  booger ballers                  fflix                        41.0    41.0
 50  35  Maniacal Misfitz                Havok                        41.0    41.0
 52  53  AnalBumCovers                  AnalBumCover                40.7    37.5
 52  44  Gasmasters                      Fonzie                      40.7    40.3
 54  56  Complex Spikes                  Masked                      40.5    36.0
 54  43  Michigan Moon Shine            DeToxRoxDVHStyle            40.5    40.5
 56  59  Lancre Wowhawks                Katon                        40.2    35.7
 56  39  West Henrietta FC              bigjdotcom01                40.2    40.7
 58  52  Spring Grove Fighting Eagles    illifan999                  40.0    37.7
 59  39  Shaw_Shanksters                Superman=#54                39.8    40.7
 59  45  High Tops                      Professor58                  39.8    40.0
 61  65  Eugene Emeralds                JHandley                    39.7    32.3
 62  61  Reign                          HeavyReign                  39.5    34.3
 63  51  Fighting Crawfish              The Afoci                    39.2    37.8
 63  60  Flying Condors                  condors                      39.2    34.5
 63  35  Boulder Blaze                  Bertogarce                  39.2    41.0
 66      Mississippi Strikers FC        Ranger93C                    39.0
 67  62  McGees                          AccardoOutfit29              38.7    34.0
 68  54  Newton Rams                    GrantDawg                    38.2    37.3
 69      White Bear FC                  Scholes                      38.0
 70  56  Else United                    rexallsc                    37.5    36.0
 71  69  Racoons                        Barkeep49                    37.2    31.8
 72      Falmouth United                Kevin                        37.0
 72  58  Toledo Drunkards                Rich1033                    37.0    35.8
 72      West Fargo Stangs              leverb66                    37.0
 75  55  IFK Bananskruv                  3ric                        36.8    37.0
 76  64  Manchester Silver Bullets      Sublime                      36.5    33.0
 77  49  Little Green Monsters          SplitPersonality1            36.3    38.2
 78      First Coast Conquistadors      MylesKnight                  36.0
 78      Plowboys                        Calis                        36.0
 80  74  Shadow Dragons                  Astott                      35.3    24.0
 81  72  North Plainfield Plague        cthomer5000                  35.0    29.0
 82      Square Pegs                    mckerney                    34.0
 83  71  Baltimore Blast                Raven                        33.5    29.2
 84  70  Vileurban FC                    jfbbis                      32.5    30.8
 85  65  Averill Park Mercury            RPI-Fan                      31.8    32.3
 86  67  Rio Grandes                    Radii                        30.7    32.2
 87      Milford Money                  Shorty3281                  27.0
 87      Mountain's Manglers            Mountain                    27.0
 89  75  Los Alamitos Fury              heybrad                      26.0    22.0
 90  73  ThunderThighs                  Neuqua                      25.0    24.3


TargetPractice6 04-07-2003 08:19 PM

On yeah, two CoCers in the top five :)

lytic 04-07-2003 08:35 PM

w00t!

BTW, maybe we should turn our FOFC fans to "our game." Anyway, I think TP should automatically lose 10 points for having such a head start... oh wait, he'd still be in first!

TargetPractice6 04-07-2003 08:39 PM

Bah, just imagine in three weeks when I play normal after five straight PICs! :P Titanic midfield anyone?

FrogMan 04-07-2003 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
Bah, just imagine in three weeks when I play normal after five straight PICs! :P Titanic midfield anyone?


WHAAAAAAT????? Titanic?!? Ouch!

However, while getting your ratings for the last week of season 18, I came across a "poor" midfield, is that real or a bug? If so, what happened???

FrogMan

TargetPractice6 04-07-2003 08:47 PM

I threw the match so I wouldn't have to go to II.3 :)

Bah, stupid elbow gnomes

Coffee Warlord 04-07-2003 08:54 PM

Bah, just wait till I get Mosley back from his torn ACL, and Guinot back from his sex change operation. Then you'll see a boost in my stats.

McSweeny 04-07-2003 09:25 PM

wow! i jumped up 23 places! hot damn!

FrogMan 04-07-2003 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by McSweeny
wow! i jumped up 23 places! hot damn!


Hey, I missed that! :o Congrats!!! That was certainly a big jump, from 45th to 22nd. WOW!

FrogMan

illinifan999 04-07-2003 09:36 PM

I win my last two matches by a combined score of 17-1 and I still drop 6 places. Damn you guys are good. :( ;)

lytic 04-07-2003 09:36 PM

I got hit by the form Mack Truck...

FrogMan 04-07-2003 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by illinifan999
I win my last two matches by a combined score of 17-1 and I still drop 6 places. Damn you guys are good. :( ;)


What needs to be noted is the quality of the first ever games played this week. We have a dude who learned from his mistake in Qwikshot. He assembled a top notch team there.

Then we have soome newbies who really learned by asking many questions. I'm talking about guys we see around a lot on the board, guys like GoldenEagle, RonnieDobbs, and -Panther. Darn, -Panther is at 42 in one week of league, where I'v been kinda stuck for the last 4 weeks :mad:

Oh well...

FrogMan

FrogMan 04-07-2003 09:52 PM

dola...

Forgot to say that before, but if you go and visit the rankings website and you see anything wrong with your listing (division, member name, etc), please let me know so I can adjust it in my spreadsheet. Thanks in advance.

FrogMan

RonnieDobbs 04-07-2003 10:00 PM

So, can anyone make sense of this for me? I'm ranked t-36, although I've been outscored 5-0 my two games. I'M HIGHER RANKED THAN THE TEAM THAT JUST BEAT ME 4-0. Sorry. What is going wrong, then? If you can, check out my dynasty with advice. I had a feeling my team had been playing well... any help is greatly appreciated.

TargetPractice6 04-07-2003 10:02 PM

You have to remember better ratings don't guarantee you the victory. Upsets happen all the time. How do you think a div. V team put Slashers out of the cup last season?

RonnieDobbs 04-07-2003 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
You have to remember better ratings don't guarantee you the victory. Upsets happen all the time. How do you think a div. V team put Slashers out of the cup last season?

Fair enough. I've only had my team about a week, maybe they started off better than I thought. I guess I just assumed I'd be sucking it up in score and ratings. However, this news has gotten me a little excited... is it possible I could win a few now as well? Would love to take a few steps to make that happen, as I would love to start filling my newly expanded stadium ASAP.

Incidentally, are the distributions of talent on new (series V I guess) teams completely random? Could a new team be so good as to run through the series without any tinkering? Or is it that they are given equal levels of talent in differing areas?

Brillig 04-07-2003 10:27 PM

I think the assortment of players is completely random - I've seen teams with pretty decent starting talent, others with pretty poor players out of the gate...

Given that any div V series probably has at least one serious owner, I don't think any starting team could survive completely without tinkering.

I'm also up 28 places this week :D

But I think the big achievement award should go to Astott, whose Shadow Dragons posted a 11.3pt jump in TWA NSI. (And yet still lost 6 places in the rankings. This *is* a tough crowd).

GoldenEagle 04-07-2003 10:37 PM

Thanks for doing the records FrogMan. Do we use these to seed the FOFC Cup? Also, I am real suprised at how highly my team is rated. Maybe we are kinda good. :)

The Afoci 04-07-2003 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
Bah, just imagine in three weeks when I play normal after five straight PICs! :P Titanic midfield anyone?


Lets see how titantic it is after i get those god damn laser blasters mounted on the Crawfish!!!!

TargetPractice6 04-07-2003 11:05 PM

The level of talent should be roughly the same for all starting teams. But as you can imagine it does vary from team to team. One team might start with no players worth more than $100k, while another team get three. Thought you won't see any team that gets, say, three excellents and a formidable.

PS: Bring on the Crawfish!!

-Panther 04-07-2003 11:09 PM

to be honest I'm shocked. I didn't think I'd be as good as that.

Granted I doubt I played a team that actually gives a chit. But,
I got my team on the 28th not knowing anything about soccer.
Hell, I didn't know how to change formation from what is shown
on the screen until the 2nd :p Didn't know what 'towards the wing' etc...
did other than just make the guy go towards the winger. I thought a
central defender set to that would play next
to 'winger' not wingback lol

I'm still not sure how I'll fare in the division since I just sold my
best defender to fund a much wanted stadium upgrade :D
I still have 2 passables but that dropped my rating to barely 30
on mybestteam.

I give credit for my team to you guys for answering questions,
mybestteam for the concept of lineups, databased for a better
understanding, along with ABCs of tactics.

If not for them sites and you guys. I'd be sitting 0-1 in league, out
of the cup with a combined scoring effort of them-me 1000-0
lol

so for that, Thanks!

now with HATStats I doubt
I'll ever have free time again lol:D

TargetPractice6 04-07-2003 11:20 PM

The Hattrick rules are also very informative. :) I read them twice before I even got my team... Also one of the things I like about Hattrick is you don't have to be a soccer guru to be good at it.

-Panther 04-07-2003 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
The Hattrick rules are also very informative. :) I read them twice before I even got my team... Also one of the things I like about Hattrick is you don't have to be a soccer guru to be good at it.


that's a given. the rules on hattrick should be read daily by newbies!

I still read them twice a day :p and probably will for first half of season
minimum.

everyone's said it almost to the point of beating it into the ground
but that's because it should be done so I'll say it this time...
READ THE RULES!!!!!!!!!!! :D

daedalus 04-07-2003 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by McSweeny
wow! i jumped up 23 places! hot damn!

I'm not impressed. I mean, if you can keep making that jump, I'd be. Myself, on the other hand, I've managed to drop a few spots in the rankings in all four. That's consistency, baby!!! :)

lytic 04-08-2003 12:12 AM

I'm your prime example of starting off with a piss poor team... not one player valued over $100k when I took over.
*sigh*

vex 04-08-2003 12:22 AM

I think I had one player over $100K when I started.

DataKing 04-08-2003 01:15 AM

This is SO unfair. :p

;)

sterlingice 04-08-2003 02:30 AM

Sorry for not posting in the stat collection thread, FrogMan. As soon as I get my main computer back up and running, I'll keep my stuff updated.

SI

Havok 04-08-2003 07:56 AM

i think my team is average for a new team. But lucky for me im the second best team in my divison and the best team isnt that much better then me. Ill probally MOTS against him when we play and hope for an upset. And the best part is im a good 50k away from debt :) If my team stays healthy this might be a pretty productive season.

Thanks to all the HT vets out there that helped me in the begining.

FrogMan 04-08-2003 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vexroid
I think I had one player over $100K when I started.


I also had only one and now that he got hurt, he's only worth half of his initial value :(

I had a few worth over 100 000 C$ but that doesn't count, since our money is so much like Monopoly money ;) (100 000 C$ = 50 000 U$)

FrogMan

FrogMan 04-08-2003 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sterlingice
Sorry for not posting in the stat collection thread, FrogMan. As soon as I get my main computer back up and running, I'll keep my stuff updated.

SI



Hey SI, no big deal. I gotta I was kinda surprised when I started gathering ratings by myself and your team was still unrated... I know what it's like to be computerless though...

FrogMan

fantastic flying froggies 04-08-2003 09:36 AM

Great job of compiling all the data Frogman, keep it coming...

EDIT : because I'm not a Frog man, I'm just a bunch of little Fantastic Flying Froggies... ;)

Qwikshot 04-08-2003 10:22 AM

Thanks for the congrats...it is nice to start out with 3 solid defenders (selling one for 200k) which helped immensely. I just managed to grab from our own Boston Wycked Sceptre an older solid defender...

My biggest problem is my division is stocked with lethal teams, I may stay high up in the ranks, but I may be relegated by the end of the season, unless my defense holds and I gather more firepower...

The Afoci 04-08-2003 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
PS: Bring on the Crawfish!!


As long as we can play at your house, I am a little short on cash right now, I don't think I have the money to turn the stadium lights on. :)

dacman 04-08-2003 11:01 AM

Nahh..there are a couple of teams significantly worse than you in your division, Qwikshot. You won't likely be near relegation territory. Promotion would be quite difficult, though.

samifan24 04-08-2003 12:14 PM

Wow, my club dropped a whopping 28 spots. It doesn't really surprise me though, since I cut payroll down to a minimum, keeping only several high-priced, young players to build around. I doubt I'll really be competitive till late this season, early next season. In the meantime, I'm trying to cut debt and keep making progress.

Qwikshot 04-08-2003 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by samifan24
Wow, my club dropped a whopping 28 spots. It doesn't really surprise me though, since I cut payroll down to a minimum, keeping only several high-priced, young players to build around. I doubt I'll really be competitive till late this season, early next season. In the meantime, I'm trying to cut debt and keep making progress.


I play you Weds, good luck, my first against a fellow FOFC that mattered.

TargetPractice6 04-08-2003 01:16 PM

Yeah, I'm a bit strapped for cash as well. That outstanding scorer with passable passing really put a dent in my wallet :p

The Afoci 04-08-2003 01:58 PM

After this economic update, i will be anywhere from 479k to 469k in the hole. Anyone want to have a Save The Crawfish Marathon. I bet if I call PETA they will do something to help the struggles of the poor Crawfish :)

bbor 04-08-2003 02:17 PM

31 to 47

AHHAHAHAHA

I suk

Should the ratings be weighted for D4 and D5?

D4 teams that drop to D5 would get better ratings against weaker player....no?

FrogMan 04-08-2003 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TargetPractice6
Yeah, I'm a bit strapped for cash as well. That outstanding scorer with passable passing really put a dent in my wallet :p


I hear you man, I remember the last time I bought an oustanding player, wait, wait, that was a passable scorer with inadequate passing... :o Shoot, and I'm in debt anyway, oh well...

FrogMan

FrogMan 04-08-2003 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bbor
31 to 47

AHHAHAHAHA

I suk

Should the ratings be weighted for D4 and D5?

D4 teams that drop to D5 would get better ratings against weaker player....no?



I always thought that the game ratings were an evaluation of your team's performance and were independant from the opposition. I mean, if you are playing "excellent" on defense, YOU are playing excellent, it's not that the other team is playing "poor" on attack. At least that's the way I understood it...

Anybody with more experience could corroborate?

FrogMan

FrogMan 04-08-2003 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RonnieDobbs
So, can anyone make sense of this for me? I'm ranked t-36, although I've been outscored 5-0 my two games. I'M HIGHER RANKED THAN THE TEAM THAT JUST BEAT ME 4-0. Sorry. What is going wrong, then? If you can, check out my dynasty with advice. I had a feeling my team had been playing well... any help is greatly appreciated.


Hey Ronnie, I decided to take a look at your game against Oklahoma City Rednecks. Here are the ratings for your two teams...

Oklahoma City Rednecks
Midfield: poor
Right Side Defence: solid
Central Defence: solid
Left Side Defence: passable
Right Side Attack: inadequate
Central Attack: inadequate
Left Side Attack: weak
NSI = 43

Boston Wyckyd Sceptre
Midfield: wretched
Right Side Defence: passable
Central Defence: solid
Left Side Defence: solid
Right Side Attack: passable
Central Attack: inadequate
Left Side Attack: passable
NSI = 43

So even though your opponent's team is currently listed lower than yours, they had the exact same rating this week. The thing is the rankings are based on a three weeks moving average and they score 41 last week and 42 two weeks ago, which gives them 42.2, compared to your only score of 43...

Maybe your team has some stamina problems, because looking at your game, I see it was only 1-0 at the half and their possession rate increased from 60% in the first to 67% in the second. Could be a lot of things, but it looks like in this one their slightly higher midfield rating helped them...

Good luck with your team.

FrogMan

RonnieDobbs 04-08-2003 02:40 PM

Thanks Frogman, and thanks for all the work doing the ratings. I pretty much came to the same conclusions that you did... so, then, I'll work a bit on stamina and upgrade the midfield a little. I would love to be competitive now instead of later, and didn't realize until you put up that rankings that that may have been feasible.

FrogMan 04-08-2003 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by RonnieDobbs
Thanks Frogman, and thanks for all the work doing the ratings. I pretty much came to the same conclusions that you did... so, then, I'll work a bit on stamina and upgrade the midfield a little. I would love to be competitive now instead of later, and didn't realize until you put up that rankings that that may have been feasible.


No problem, and I have a lot of fun doing the rankings ;)

About your team, don't feel bad about it. Heck, you got a better team than mine after only one league game and I've already played 6 weeks worth of transfer market crazy spending :D

Keep reading what everybody else is saying (don't always take what I too seriously ;) ) and you should do fine.

FrogMan

Aylmar 04-08-2003 03:51 PM

Damn...I posted my best rating ever (52...tied with another match last season) and I still lost 3-0. My opponent only posted a 47 (according to HatStats) and he still beat me. Must have been that all nighter the team pulled at the strip club before the game. Dammit....I told them not to come with me. :)

Raven Hawk 04-08-2003 07:34 PM

3 3 Gargoyles Ravenhawk
83 71 Baltimore Blast Ravenhawk

I would just like to point out that I do not own the Baltimore Blast. To do so would be cheating and that is not what the Gargoyles are about . . . . unless you call playing your first match in a stadium that is under construction, cheating. :)

Just wanted to clear this up.

FrogMan 04-08-2003 07:39 PM

Yeah, dacman has already pointed that to me by PM yeasterday night. Sorry, it's all Bill Gates' fault, with is stoopid auto-fill feature in excel :) (Although sometimes it can be useful)

I'll update it at some point this evening, the Baltimore Blast is owned by Raven, not Raven Hawk...

FrogMan

FrogMan 04-08-2003 08:14 PM

dola, to say that the rankings have been updated with Raven as owner of Baltimore Blast. I also corrected Ravenhawk to Raven Hawk and dataking to DataKing.

If you see anything not right with your entry, let me know...

FrogMan

Qwikshot 04-08-2003 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dacman
Nahh..there are a couple of teams significantly worse than you in your division, Qwikshot. You won't likely be near relegation territory. Promotion would be quite difficult, though.


You must see something that I don't...I figure Ring of Fire is tough, I think the Nationals are weak, I should have beaten the Heavy Metal team...I'm going to experiment with different formations but until I can finally play friendlies, that will have to wait...of course Samifan has to play me, I'm sure he'll love coming to a small cramped 7000 seat stadium.


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