04-07-2003, 08:59 PM | #1 | ||
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Official FOFC Hattrick Rankings for week 19.01
The new Hattrick season is finally underway, this must means that new FOFC Hattrick ratings are available. WELL, YEAH!!!
I'll get to them in a moment, for now, some explanations... - TW stands for "This Week" - LW stand for "Last Week" - The first set of numbers (to the left of the team names) represents the relative ranking of every team. A blank in either column means that team wasn't ranked that week. - The second set of numbers (to the right of the FOFC member name) represents the rankings points scored for the last two week. - The rankings points for a given week are calculated using a weighted moving average of that week's NSI points and the score of the previous two weeks' NSI points. - "NSI points" is the sum of all your position ratings from your game report, with midfield counting as triple its value - Ratings are scored with the base value set at disastrous = 1, wretched = 2, and so on. Below, you will find a text formatted version of the rankings, but they are available on the web, GO TO THE OFFICIAL FOFC HATTRICK RANKINGS HOME ON THE WEB Finally, some comments about this week's rankings:
That's about it for me, enjoy the rankings. As always, your comments are welcome and bragging is encouraged If you have any question about my very scientific methodology, feel free to ask FrogMan Code:
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04-07-2003, 09:19 PM | #2 |
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On yeah, two CoCers in the top five
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04-07-2003, 09:35 PM | #3 |
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w00t!
BTW, maybe we should turn our FOFC fans to "our game." Anyway, I think TP should automatically lose 10 points for having such a head start... oh wait, he'd still be in first!
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04-07-2003, 09:39 PM | #4 |
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Bah, just imagine in three weeks when I play normal after five straight PICs! :P Titanic midfield anyone?
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04-07-2003, 09:42 PM | #5 | |
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WHAAAAAAT????? Titanic?!? Ouch! However, while getting your ratings for the last week of season 18, I came across a "poor" midfield, is that real or a bug? If so, what happened??? FrogMan
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04-07-2003, 09:47 PM | #6 |
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I threw the match so I wouldn't have to go to II.3
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04-07-2003, 09:54 PM | #7 |
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Bah, just wait till I get Mosley back from his torn ACL, and Guinot back from his sex change operation. Then you'll see a boost in my stats.
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04-07-2003, 10:25 PM | #8 |
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wow! i jumped up 23 places! hot damn!
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04-07-2003, 10:28 PM | #9 | |
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Hey, I missed that! :o Congrats!!! That was certainly a big jump, from 45th to 22nd. WOW! FrogMan
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04-07-2003, 10:36 PM | #10 |
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I win my last two matches by a combined score of 17-1 and I still drop 6 places. Damn you guys are good.
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04-07-2003, 10:36 PM | #11 |
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I got hit by the form Mack Truck...
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04-07-2003, 10:49 PM | #12 | |
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What needs to be noted is the quality of the first ever games played this week. We have a dude who learned from his mistake in Qwikshot. He assembled a top notch team there. Then we have soome newbies who really learned by asking many questions. I'm talking about guys we see around a lot on the board, guys like GoldenEagle, RonnieDobbs, and -Panther. Darn, -Panther is at 42 in one week of league, where I'v been kinda stuck for the last 4 weeks Oh well... FrogMan
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04-07-2003, 10:52 PM | #13 |
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dola...
Forgot to say that before, but if you go and visit the rankings website and you see anything wrong with your listing (division, member name, etc), please let me know so I can adjust it in my spreadsheet. Thanks in advance. FrogMan
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04-07-2003, 11:00 PM | #14 |
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So, can anyone make sense of this for me? I'm ranked t-36, although I've been outscored 5-0 my two games. I'M HIGHER RANKED THAN THE TEAM THAT JUST BEAT ME 4-0. Sorry. What is going wrong, then? If you can, check out my dynasty with advice. I had a feeling my team had been playing well... any help is greatly appreciated.
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04-07-2003, 11:02 PM | #15 |
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You have to remember better ratings don't guarantee you the victory. Upsets happen all the time. How do you think a div. V team put Slashers out of the cup last season?
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04-07-2003, 11:09 PM | #16 | |
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Fair enough. I've only had my team about a week, maybe they started off better than I thought. I guess I just assumed I'd be sucking it up in score and ratings. However, this news has gotten me a little excited... is it possible I could win a few now as well? Would love to take a few steps to make that happen, as I would love to start filling my newly expanded stadium ASAP. Incidentally, are the distributions of talent on new (series V I guess) teams completely random? Could a new team be so good as to run through the series without any tinkering? Or is it that they are given equal levels of talent in differing areas?
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04-07-2003, 11:27 PM | #17 |
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I think the assortment of players is completely random - I've seen teams with pretty decent starting talent, others with pretty poor players out of the gate...
Given that any div V series probably has at least one serious owner, I don't think any starting team could survive completely without tinkering. I'm also up 28 places this week But I think the big achievement award should go to Astott, whose Shadow Dragons posted a 11.3pt jump in TWA NSI. (And yet still lost 6 places in the rankings. This *is* a tough crowd). |
04-07-2003, 11:37 PM | #18 |
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Thanks for doing the records FrogMan. Do we use these to seed the FOFC Cup? Also, I am real suprised at how highly my team is rated. Maybe we are kinda good.
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04-07-2003, 11:52 PM | #19 | |
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Lets see how titantic it is after i get those god damn laser blasters mounted on the Crawfish!!!!
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04-08-2003, 12:05 AM | #20 |
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The level of talent should be roughly the same for all starting teams. But as you can imagine it does vary from team to team. One team might start with no players worth more than $100k, while another team get three. Thought you won't see any team that gets, say, three excellents and a formidable.
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04-08-2003, 12:09 AM | #21 |
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to be honest I'm shocked. I didn't think I'd be as good as that.
Granted I doubt I played a team that actually gives a chit. But, I got my team on the 28th not knowing anything about soccer. Hell, I didn't know how to change formation from what is shown on the screen until the 2nd Didn't know what 'towards the wing' etc... did other than just make the guy go towards the winger. I thought a central defender set to that would play next to 'winger' not wingback lol I'm still not sure how I'll fare in the division since I just sold my best defender to fund a much wanted stadium upgrade I still have 2 passables but that dropped my rating to barely 30 on mybestteam. I give credit for my team to you guys for answering questions, mybestteam for the concept of lineups, databased for a better understanding, along with ABCs of tactics. If not for them sites and you guys. I'd be sitting 0-1 in league, out of the cup with a combined scoring effort of them-me 1000-0 lol so for that, Thanks! now with HATStats I doubt I'll ever have free time again lol
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04-08-2003, 12:20 AM | #22 |
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The Hattrick rules are also very informative. I read them twice before I even got my team... Also one of the things I like about Hattrick is you don't have to be a soccer guru to be good at it.
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04-08-2003, 12:26 AM | #23 | |
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that's a given. the rules on hattrick should be read daily by newbies! I still read them twice a day and probably will for first half of season minimum. everyone's said it almost to the point of beating it into the ground but that's because it should be done so I'll say it this time... READ THE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!
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04-08-2003, 12:59 AM | #24 | |
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I'm not impressed. I mean, if you can keep making that jump, I'd be. Myself, on the other hand, I've managed to drop a few spots in the rankings in all four. That's consistency, baby!!! |
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04-08-2003, 01:12 AM | #25 |
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I'm your prime example of starting off with a piss poor team... not one player valued over $100k when I took over.
*sigh*
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04-08-2003, 01:22 AM | #26 |
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I think I had one player over $100K when I started.
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04-08-2003, 02:15 AM | #27 |
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This is SO unfair.
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04-08-2003, 03:30 AM | #28 |
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Sorry for not posting in the stat collection thread, FrogMan. As soon as I get my main computer back up and running, I'll keep my stuff updated.
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04-08-2003, 08:56 AM | #29 |
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i think my team is average for a new team. But lucky for me im the second best team in my divison and the best team isnt that much better then me. Ill probally MOTS against him when we play and hope for an upset. And the best part is im a good 50k away from debt If my team stays healthy this might be a pretty productive season.
Thanks to all the HT vets out there that helped me in the begining.
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04-08-2003, 10:06 AM | #30 | |
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I also had only one and now that he got hurt, he's only worth half of his initial value I had a few worth over 100 000 C$ but that doesn't count, since our money is so much like Monopoly money (100 000 C$ = 50 000 U$) FrogMan
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04-08-2003, 10:08 AM | #31 | |
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Hey SI, no big deal. I gotta I was kinda surprised when I started gathering ratings by myself and your team was still unrated... I know what it's like to be computerless though... FrogMan
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04-08-2003, 10:36 AM | #32 |
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Great job of compiling all the data Frogman, keep it coming...
EDIT : because I'm not a Frog man, I'm just a bunch of little Fantastic Flying Froggies...
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04-08-2003, 11:22 AM | #33 |
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Thanks for the congrats...it is nice to start out with 3 solid defenders (selling one for 200k) which helped immensely. I just managed to grab from our own Boston Wycked Sceptre an older solid defender...
My biggest problem is my division is stocked with lethal teams, I may stay high up in the ranks, but I may be relegated by the end of the season, unless my defense holds and I gather more firepower...
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04-08-2003, 12:01 PM | #34 | |
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As long as we can play at your house, I am a little short on cash right now, I don't think I have the money to turn the stadium lights on.
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04-08-2003, 12:01 PM | #35 |
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Nahh..there are a couple of teams significantly worse than you in your division, Qwikshot. You won't likely be near relegation territory. Promotion would be quite difficult, though.
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04-08-2003, 01:14 PM | #36 |
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Wow, my club dropped a whopping 28 spots. It doesn't really surprise me though, since I cut payroll down to a minimum, keeping only several high-priced, young players to build around. I doubt I'll really be competitive till late this season, early next season. In the meantime, I'm trying to cut debt and keep making progress.
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04-08-2003, 01:15 PM | #37 | |
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04-08-2003, 02:16 PM | #38 |
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Yeah, I'm a bit strapped for cash as well. That outstanding scorer with passable passing really put a dent in my wallet
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04-08-2003, 02:58 PM | #39 |
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After this economic update, i will be anywhere from 479k to 469k in the hole. Anyone want to have a Save The Crawfish Marathon. I bet if I call PETA they will do something to help the struggles of the poor Crawfish
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04-08-2003, 03:17 PM | #40 |
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31 to 47
AHHAHAHAHA I suk Should the ratings be weighted for D4 and D5? D4 teams that drop to D5 would get better ratings against weaker player....no?
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I hear you man, I remember the last time I bought an oustanding player, wait, wait, that was a passable scorer with inadequate passing... :o Shoot, and I'm in debt anyway, oh well... FrogMan
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04-08-2003, 03:23 PM | #42 | |
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I always thought that the game ratings were an evaluation of your team's performance and were independant from the opposition. I mean, if you are playing "excellent" on defense, YOU are playing excellent, it's not that the other team is playing "poor" on attack. At least that's the way I understood it... Anybody with more experience could corroborate? FrogMan
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04-08-2003, 03:30 PM | #43 | |
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Hey Ronnie, I decided to take a look at your game against Oklahoma City Rednecks. Here are the ratings for your two teams... Oklahoma City Rednecks Midfield: poor Right Side Defence: solid Central Defence: solid Left Side Defence: passable Right Side Attack: inadequate Central Attack: inadequate Left Side Attack: weak NSI = 43 Boston Wyckyd Sceptre Midfield: wretched Right Side Defence: passable Central Defence: solid Left Side Defence: solid Right Side Attack: passable Central Attack: inadequate Left Side Attack: passable NSI = 43 So even though your opponent's team is currently listed lower than yours, they had the exact same rating this week. The thing is the rankings are based on a three weeks moving average and they score 41 last week and 42 two weeks ago, which gives them 42.2, compared to your only score of 43... Maybe your team has some stamina problems, because looking at your game, I see it was only 1-0 at the half and their possession rate increased from 60% in the first to 67% in the second. Could be a lot of things, but it looks like in this one their slightly higher midfield rating helped them... Good luck with your team. FrogMan
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04-08-2003, 03:40 PM | #44 |
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Thanks Frogman, and thanks for all the work doing the ratings. I pretty much came to the same conclusions that you did... so, then, I'll work a bit on stamina and upgrade the midfield a little. I would love to be competitive now instead of later, and didn't realize until you put up that rankings that that may have been feasible.
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04-08-2003, 03:43 PM | #45 | |
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No problem, and I have a lot of fun doing the rankings About your team, don't feel bad about it. Heck, you got a better team than mine after only one league game and I've already played 6 weeks worth of transfer market crazy spending Keep reading what everybody else is saying (don't always take what I too seriously ) and you should do fine. FrogMan
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04-08-2003, 04:51 PM | #46 |
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Damn...I posted my best rating ever (52...tied with another match last season) and I still lost 3-0. My opponent only posted a 47 (according to HatStats) and he still beat me. Must have been that all nighter the team pulled at the strip club before the game. Dammit....I told them not to come with me.
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04-08-2003, 08:34 PM | #47 |
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3 3 Gargoyles Ravenhawk
83 71 Baltimore Blast Ravenhawk I would just like to point out that I do not own the Baltimore Blast. To do so would be cheating and that is not what the Gargoyles are about . . . . unless you call playing your first match in a stadium that is under construction, cheating. Just wanted to clear this up. |
04-08-2003, 08:39 PM | #48 |
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Yeah, dacman has already pointed that to me by PM yeasterday night. Sorry, it's all Bill Gates' fault, with is stoopid auto-fill feature in excel (Although sometimes it can be useful)
I'll update it at some point this evening, the Baltimore Blast is owned by Raven, not Raven Hawk... FrogMan
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04-08-2003, 09:14 PM | #49 |
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dola, to say that the rankings have been updated with Raven as owner of Baltimore Blast. I also corrected Ravenhawk to Raven Hawk and dataking to DataKing.
If you see anything not right with your entry, let me know... FrogMan
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04-08-2003, 09:33 PM | #50 | |
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You must see something that I don't...I figure Ring of Fire is tough, I think the Nationals are weak, I should have beaten the Heavy Metal team...I'm going to experiment with different formations but until I can finally play friendlies, that will have to wait...of course Samifan has to play me, I'm sure he'll love coming to a small cramped 7000 seat stadium. |
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