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Solecismic 10-24-2013 04:04 PM

Apparently, a local radio station in Tampa has bought some "Fire Schiano" time on a highway billboard. Sounds like a bad situation getting worse.

Anyone remember back a few years when Schiano turned Michigan down, leading very quickly to the desperation hire of Rich Rodriguez? I used to think Schiano would have been a better option. Now I'm not so sure. Well, I am sure. He would have been a better option. But not by much.

Honolulu_Blue 10-24-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic (Post 2867723)
Anyone remember back a few years when Schiano turned Michigan down, leading very quickly to the desperation hire of Rich Rodriguez? I used to think Schiano would have been a better option. Now I'm not so sure. Well, I am sure. He would have been a better option. But not by much.


I remember this very well. Ever since he rejected Michigan, I wished nothing but ill will on his person. As a result, I've enjoyed watching flame out.

Logan 10-24-2013 04:25 PM

He's a program builder, not a high level winning coach. I don't think Kyle Flood is the answer for Rutgers heading into the B1G, but I know, seeing how he coached over his last couple years here, that Schiano would not have been successful in that league.

Outside of the story of Schiano personally leaking the Freeman/drugs thing to the media, I've believed every word of what I heard coming out of Tampa, and wasn't surprised by any of it. You can't be a bad coach AND treat millionaire professionals like they're 19 year old kids. Tom Coughlin got away with doing that because he actually was a good coach. Schiano was a micromanager to the fullest extent, and that turned away coaches from wanting to work for him. It's why he needed to bring so many Rutgers coaches with him to Tampa...the pool of coaches that could tolerate him was very small.

He's a great defensive mind but he also knows nothing about offense yet refused to turn that area of the game over to his assistants and not meddle.

Once he's fired, he could probably join Belichick as his DC as they run the same system (a reason so many Rutgers kids are on that team). If a big program school makes a run at him, I'll laugh and laugh.

B & B 10-24-2013 04:29 PM

Its quite simple. Some coaches and their coaching techniques do much better in college than pro. Some coaches are the opposite. While football might be football, coaching a 19-22 year old walk on or scholarship player is nothing like coaching a grown man making millions of dollars.

Spurrier comes to mind, good with NCAA, poor at NFL. Schiano is the same. He will be a fine NCAA coach as he can be the hard ass 'my way or the highway' with kids. His shit doesn't fly down in TB, and it wont work anywhere else. The only way you get to operate like that is when you have an established body of work at that level of pro sports. Coughlin and Bellichick can get away with things that say Kubiak would not.

Schiano is no Kubiak. In three years he will be a HC in a mid level NCAA program. Bank it.

B & B 10-24-2013 04:31 PM

Find it very odd that Logan and I mentioned the same 3 coaches in our answers, as I was writing before seeing his post.

Glengoyne 10-24-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by B & B (Post 2867730)
Its quite simple. Some coaches and their coaching techniques do much better in college than pro.


My favorite example of this was Jerry Tarkanian. He was all world at UNLV, and didn't make it 40 games in the NBA. His assistant coaches however, Ron Adams and Tim Grgurich(sp?) stuck in the NBA. Adams to this day, and Grg..err..Tim, until he retired.

When Tark was coaching at Fresno State, I'd occasionally see better coaches take total advantage of Jerry's kids. I was lamenting that Tark left his brain in the NBA. To give Tark credit, he'd occasionally fire his team up such that they stuck with better coached teams, like Bill Self's teams at Tulsa.

Matthean 10-24-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic (Post 2867723)
Anyone remember back a few years when Schiano turned Michigan down, leading very quickly to the desperation hire of Rich Rodriguez? I used to think Schiano would have been a better option. Now I'm not so sure. Well, I am sure. He would have been a better option. But not by much.


RR likes to talk about how he almost because 'Bama's coach which led to Saban going there instead. He would have gown down in flames there as well.

I remember people here talking about how Schiano was more of a recruiter than a good game management type of guy. My response was he was being asked to do the one thing he wasn't good at and wasn't allowed to do the one thing he was good at. I'm not surprised he's failing there. I know Rutgers likely has some sort of ceiling in terms of how far the program can go, but he seemed like a guy who needed to build the program more before getting an NFL job. At least with Saban, he had more years in the NFL and a higher position.

Carman Bulldog 10-24-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 2867488)
Wait, I thought miked was just the past tense posts of Mike D.



cuervo72 10-24-2013 10:08 PM

Man, if anyone in the CAR secondary could actually catch...

Julio Riddols 10-24-2013 10:32 PM

Glennon needs to learn the art of the checkdown.

Julio Riddols 10-24-2013 10:44 PM

Mike James might be an ok back though, from what little I saw of him. He picks up blitzes really well, seems to have decent hands, and runs effectively.

Dutch 10-25-2013 12:06 AM

I saw Steve Mariucci tonight and I said, "Hey Coach! The weather sure is nice in Tampa. Think about it." and he was about to say something, then just smiled, shook his head and slapped my back as he walked past.

Radii 10-25-2013 12:56 AM

How different would we be viewing the Panthers right now if Williams hadn't fumbled in the red zone at the end of the Seattle game or if Rivera had just gone for a damn 4th and 1 to seal the Buffalo game.

Julio Riddols 10-25-2013 01:14 AM

I see them as a legit threat anyway. Their defense is so consistently good and Kuechly might be the best LB in the league.

Dutch 10-25-2013 08:09 AM

Well, at least we have fans with a sense of humor. A Schiano Breaking Bad Chem Suit (ref to MRSA drama). And the most damning sign in the endzone that read "Schiano is worse than MRSA"


Thomkal 10-27-2013 01:36 PM

Brady might be hurt-his throwing hand is swelling pretty bad. Still in the game though.

BillJasper 10-27-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 2868234)
Brady might be hurt-his throwing hand is swelling pretty bad. Still in the game though.


You have to wonder why he's still in there?

Thomkal 10-27-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper (Post 2868235)
You have to wonder why he's still in there?


Because he's Brady I guess. Also Vick's hamstring acted up again and he's out probably for the rest of the game. Looking good for the Giants to pick up another win with Barkley in as QB.

BillJasper 10-27-2013 01:56 PM

I fucking hate being a Miami Dolphins fan!

ColtCrazy 10-27-2013 02:01 PM

How do the Pats do it? I swear someone has a deal with the devil for the way teams fall apart playing them.

First we spy on Merkel for Germany, then send Jags to England. Europe must hate us.

cuervo72 10-27-2013 02:04 PM

Dunno, but it's tiresome.

miami_fan 10-27-2013 02:36 PM

YOU GOTTA FUCKIN KIDDING ME!

BillJasper 10-27-2013 02:37 PM

What a bullshit call.

TroyF 10-27-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper (Post 2868249)
What a bullshit call.


One of the worst calls I have ever seen in an NFL football game. A defensive lineman battles for the football, dives to the ground and hits the ball and it's a penalty? Holy hell, that is just comical.

"Well, they've had some good breaks today" Phil Simms Ummm, understatement of the history of the planet. What a joke.

Desnudo 10-27-2013 02:40 PM

Rules are rules. It's hard to remember a recent call like that...

And he clearly swats it.

TroyF 10-27-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo (Post 2868251)
Rules are rules. It's hard to remember a recent call like that...

And he clearly swats it.


His arm is going sideways as he's falling to the ground. I don't think it is at all clear. And in that situation, unless someone is doing a holy roller, it should not be called. That was horrible.

miami_fan 10-27-2013 02:47 PM

Oh NOW you think he was trying to pull it in?

TroyF 10-27-2013 02:48 PM

The Chiefs just recovered a fumble by a Browns punt returner (and good thing, because the Browns would have had the ball at the Chiefs 40 down 3 if they hadn't. First play after the fumble, they call a flea flicker and get sacked.

At least it turned out better than the Theisman one.

In typical Browns fashion, they allow a screen pass to go for 20 to the clearly hobbled Charles and give up a first down. (sorry for the sarcasm, but the guy has the third most carries in the NFL and the second most touches.

They just showed the the replay of the Dolphin. He didn't bat that ball. I stick with what I said. That call was terrible. Just terrible.

BillJasper 10-27-2013 02:57 PM

At least the Dolphins went ahead a cleared up the rest of the football season for me. No sense in watching them crash and burn yet again. :lol:

BillJasper 10-27-2013 03:01 PM

It'll be interesting to see if the Chiefs can hang with some of the high-scoring teams.

BillJasper 10-27-2013 03:10 PM

Terrelle Pryor is fast!

RedKingGold 10-27-2013 03:10 PM

Pryor 7 yards away from 100 yards rushing . . .with 14 minutes and change to go in the 1st quarter.

Mizzou B-ball fan 10-27-2013 03:14 PM

Another week, another win. The trick play by the Browns made it a game, but another great final quarter for the defense as they shut down the Browns when they need to do so. The penalties in the 4th quarter caused by the crowd noise were also crucial.

JonInMiddleGA 10-27-2013 03:14 PM

What's the record for a QB rush?

Danny 10-27-2013 03:21 PM

Megatron 25 yards from setting single game record

Matthean 10-27-2013 03:22 PM

Lions have out gained the Cowboys by 300 yards and are losing.

Or not.

JonInMiddleGA 10-27-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean (Post 2868266)
Lions have out gained the Cowboys by 300 yards and are losing.


Not anymore ;)

BillJasper 10-27-2013 03:23 PM

Nice drive by Stafford!

TroyF 10-27-2013 03:24 PM

WOW. What a game.

Danny 10-27-2013 03:24 PM

Romo chokes away another one

Julio Riddols 10-27-2013 03:25 PM

Wow, Calvin.

Matthean 10-27-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 2868267)
Not anymore ;)


I had to do an edit because I posted and saw the score.

Matthean 10-27-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2868270)
Romo chokes away another one


Damn him for not covering Megatron better.

mckerney 10-27-2013 03:26 PM

NFL Week 8
 
Seemed like it was about time for this thread.

So how about those Lions? And what a play by Pryor!

Julio Riddols 10-27-2013 03:26 PM

Wow, Calvin.

Thomkal 10-27-2013 03:27 PM

wow what a scoring drive by Detroit and the fake down call by Stafford for the TD. Dez Bryant screaming at Romo and Witten, and Megatron clearly shows who's the better receiver. What a game by him.

Glengoyne 10-27-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2868270)
Romo chokes away another one


Hehe. You beat me to the punch.
Effing Romo

frnk55 10-27-2013 03:27 PM

I'm so glad I'm not a Cowboy fan. Ouch.

BillJasper 10-27-2013 03:27 PM

Time for Romo to earn his money.

BillJasper 10-27-2013 03:29 PM

The Cowboys just look stunned.


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