Official 2024 College Football Thread

[sovereignstar v2]

BYU in trouble

[Solecismic]

If Georgia beats Tennessee next week, and the team with the better conference record wins the remaining games on the SEC schedule, first place comes down to Texas vs Texas A&M, with the winner at 7-1 in the conference and a seven-way tie for second at 6-2.

There are no common conference opponents in that case, so second place is determined by strength of schedule, which Alabama holds by a game or two (one if A&M wins, two if Texas wins) over Tennessee.

At this point, Alabama's best move is to refuse to play in the conference championship (I know, they wouldn't, because there are certainly penalties involved) because losing would mean missing out on the playoff while not playing would likely ensure a berth.

Ideally, there wouldn't be conference championship games, but $$$.

The Big Ten seems headed for an Oregon/Ohio State rematch. The Big 12 has BYU and Colorado ahead of the others and the ACC looks like SMU and Miami (as I see Pittsburgh was shocked by Virginia in the last set of games).

[sovereignstar v2]

BYU wow

[Edward64]

Not sure who to root for in the SEC now. There's a pool of 5 possibles - Texas, TN, GA, AL and A&M. I'm thinking 3 will get in?

Hogs vs #3 Texas next weekend should be depressing.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Edward64

It gives the perennial bottom dwellers (Hogs) hope.

We do have the Waltons & Jerry Jones …

See Hoosiers, Indiana. (NIL/portal)

[RainMaker]

The Kennesaw State story is really weird. Started a program 10 years ago and the same coach has led them all the way up to FBS. They fire him in the middle of his first season in FBS but made it seem like he stepped down on his own. Fans seem kind of mad because the coach was popular and not sure what exactly the expectations were for your first year in FBS for a program that has only existed a decade.

[GrantDawg]

Something is definitely fishy there. Students and fans are upset, and rightfully so. Somebody with money making moves behind the scenes?

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

The Kennesaw State story is really weird. Started a program 10 years ago and the same coach has led them all the way up to FBS. They fire him in the middle of his first season in FBS but made it seem like he stepped down on his own. Fans seem kind of mad because the coach was popular and not sure what exactly the expectations were for your first year in FBS for a program that has only existed a decade.

Eh, issue #1 - moving up was a horrible mistake in judgment. Not his fault, but still

issue #2 - this isn't year one, it's year three of the transition. since then, he's gone 5-6, 3-6, 1-8.

issue #3 - they actually haven't been past round two of the FCS playoffs since 2018.

issue #4 - Bohannon is the son of a (somewhat) legendary HS coaching icon. I was around that program (Griffin) for several years right after his dad stepped down/was forced out(depends on who you asked) That was a change that came after 4 mediocre seasons on the heels of only one meaningful run in two decades ... all based on a state title in his 3rd season, 20 years prior. And I watched his dad spend the better part of the next decade sitting in the visitors bleachers, surrounded by former players and fans who poor mouthed virtually everything that took place -- good or bad -- for the next 3-4 HCs. "Toxic" is an understatement.

issue #5 - Bohannon was, essentially, a Paul Johnson disciple. Make of that what you will, in terms of both coaching and personality.

Which brings us to the conclusion that I feel like the university may have reached: the program, under Bohannon, peaked six years ago. In the modern era, that's an extremely long leashed to give anybody. I see no reason to believe he was going to go quietly, not based on his genetics at least.

That this ended poorly doesn't come as the least bit of a surprise to me.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

The Kennesaw State story is really weird. Started a program 10 years ago and the same coach has led them all the way up to FBS. They fire him in the middle of his first season in FBS but made it seem like he stepped down on his own. Fans seem kind of mad because the coach was popular and not sure what exactly the expectations were for your first year in FBS for a program that has only existed a decade.

Eh, issue #1 - moving up was a horrible mistake in judgment. Not his fault, but still

issue #2 - this isn't year one, it's really year three of the transition. since their 2nd round playoff exit the year prior, he's gone 5-6, 3-6, 1-8.

issue #3 - they actually haven't been past round two of the FCS playoffs since 2018.

issue #4 - Bohannon is the son of a (somewhat) legendary HS coaching icon. I was around that program (Griffin) for several years right after his dad stepped down/was forced out(depends on who you asked) That was a change that came after 4 mediocre seasons on the heels of only one meaningful run in two decades ... all based on a state title in his 3rd season, 20 years prior. And I watched his dad spend the better part of the next decade sitting in the visitors bleachers, surrounded by former players and fans who poor mouthed virtually everything that took place -- good or bad -- for the next 3-4 HCs. "Toxic" is an understatement.

issue #5 - Bohannon was, essentially, a Paul Johnson disciple. Make of that what you will, in terms of both coaching and personality.

Which brings us to the conclusion that I feel like the university may have reached: the program, under Bohannon, peaked six years ago. In the modern era, that's an extremely long leashed to give anybody. I see no reason to believe he was going to go quietly, not based on his genetics at least.

That this ended poorly doesn't come as the least bit of a surprise to me.

[sovereignstar v2]

I stumbled upon this site that focuses on rivalry data last night as I was creating a custom universe for FC:College Dynasty. Thought it was cool enough to share.

NCAA DI Football Bowl Subdivision - Know Rivalry

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

I stumbled upon this site that focuses on rivalry data last night as I was creating a custom universe for FC:College Dynasty. Thought it was cool enough to share.

NCAA DI Football Bowl Subdivision - Know Rivalry

I want the names of those who didn't put TTUN as Ohio State's rival. This is some Russian cyber warfare/deep fake kinda shit.

"Bring me everyone. "
"What do you mean, 'everyone'?"
"EVERYONE!"

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by Bobble

I want the names of those who didn't put TTUN as Ohio State's rival. This is some Russian cyber warfare/deep fake kinda shit.

"Bring me everyone. "
"What do you mean, 'everyone'?"
"EVERYONE!"

Heh, other than the Arizona scores, Ohio State->Michigan looks like one of the highest allocations. In case you didn't notice participants are asked to allocate a possible 100 points to different rivals. It's not that they didn't mark Michigan as a rival, but rather they allocated a small amount of points to Penn State etc as secondary rivals.

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

Heh, other than the Arizona scores, Ohio State->Michigan looks like one of the highest allocations. In case you didn't notice participants are asked to allocate a possible 100 points to different rivals. It's not that they didn't mark Michigan as a rival, but rather they allocated a small amount of points to Penn State etc as secondary rivals.

Oh, I understood the rules. Everyone should have voted 1000 points to TTUN and -900 points equally distributed to all other contestants.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Eh, issue #1 - moving up was a horrible mistake in judgment. Not his fault, but still

issue #2 - this isn't year one, it's really year three of the transition. since their 2nd round playoff exit the year prior, he's gone 5-6, 3-6, 1-8.

issue #3 - they actually haven't been past round two of the FCS playoffs since 2018.

issue #4 - Bohannon is the son of a (somewhat) legendary HS coaching icon. I was around that program (Griffin) for several years right after his dad stepped down/was forced out(depends on who you asked) That was a change that came after 4 mediocre seasons on the heels of only one meaningful run in two decades ... all based on a state title in his 3rd season, 20 years prior. And I watched his dad spend the better part of the next decade sitting in the visitors bleachers, surrounded by former players and fans who poor mouthed virtually everything that took place -- good or bad -- for the next 3-4 HCs. "Toxic" is an understatement.

issue #5 - Bohannon was, essentially, a Paul Johnson disciple. Make of that what you will, in terms of both coaching and personality.

Which brings us to the conclusion that I feel like the university may have reached: the program, under Bohannon, peaked six years ago. In the modern era, that's an extremely long leashed to give anybody. I see no reason to believe he was going to go quietly, not based on his genetics at least.

That this ended poorly doesn't come as the least bit of a surprise to me.

That makes some sense. I just don't know what the expectations should be for a school like Kennesaw State. They were pretty good in FCS after starting the program. Last couple years are definitely down, but it's not like they were getting badly beaten.

Agree that moving up was a horrible mistake. Their facilities look worse than a lot of high schools I've seen. It just seems like asking that school to be competitive in FBS is a huge stretch at this point. Maybe they'd do better with a different coach, but I don't think it'd be by much considering the huge disadvantages they have going for them. Looking at salaries, he was making under $400k a year which is a pittance of what other teams at that level make. Unless they've got a huge budget increase for the coaching staff, they're going to be bottom feeders for awhile.

[Swaggs]

I'm not sure how I feel about the Schadenfreude (aka: How much joy do fans take in the misfortune of the rival team? 1 [lowest] – 7 [highest]) section for WVU.

It has Pitt as 4.5 and VPI as 4.4 (out of 7). I would think it would be much closer to 7, for Pitt in particular.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Bobble

Oh, I understood the rules. Everyone should have voted 1000 points to TTUN and -900 points equally distributed to all other contestants.

Maybe some of the points went to Xichigan and Tulane.

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm not sure how I feel about the Schadenfreude (aka: How much joy do fans take in the misfortune of the rival team? 1 [lowest] – 7 [highest]) section for WVU.

It has Pitt as 4.5 and VPI as 4.4 (out of 7). I would think it would be much closer to 7, for Pitt in particular.

Your Mountaineers are giving me a helluva challenge trying to find a conference for them in my reimagination I'm doing for this game. Currently, you are only able to have conferences of 10/12/14/16 and I'm trying to limit myself to 12 and 14 whilst purging my league of all the riff raff. Rivals have to be a team inside their conference and so far using that site I've been able to have each team matched up with a primary or secondary rival. Until West Virginia.

ATLANTIC COAST
Florida State Miami
Maryland Virginia
NC State North Carolina
Boston College Syracuse
Clemson Florida State
Wake Forest Duke
Syracuse Boston College
Virginia Tech Virginia
Miami Florida State
Georgia Tech Clemson
North Carolina NC State
Duke North Carolina
Virginia Virginia Tech
Pittsburgh Syracuse

BIG TWELVE
Nebraska Oklahoma
Missouri Kansas
Kansas State Kansas
Iowa State Kansas State
Colorado Nebraska
Kansas Missouri
Oklahoma Texas
Oklahoma State Oklahoma
Texas A&M Texas
Baylor TCU
Texas Tech Texas
Texas Oklahoma
TCU Baylor
SMU TCU

BIG TEN
Michigan State Michigan
Iowa Wisconsin
Indiana Purdue
Michigan Ohio State
Ohio State Michigan
Minnesota Wisconsin
Purdue Indiana
Illinois Northwestern
Northwestern Illinois
Wisconsin Minnesota
Penn State Ohio State
Notre Dame Michigan

PACIFIC TWELVE
USC UCLA
UCLA USC
Washington Oregon
Arizona State Arizona
Oregon Washington
Stanford Cal
Arizona Arizona State
Cal Stanford
Washington State Washington
Oregon State Oregon
Utah BYU
BYU Utah

SOUTHEASTERN
South Carolina Georgia
Florida Georgia
Georgia Florida
Tennessee Alabama
Kentucky Tennessee
Vanderbilt Tennessee
Auburn Alabama
Arkansas LSU
LSU Alabama
Alabama Auburn
Mississippi State Ole Miss
Ole Miss Mississippi State

WESTERN ATHLETIC
San Diego State Fresno State
Hawaii Fresno State
Wyoming Colorado State
Colorado State Wyoming
New Mexico San Diego State
Boise State Fresno State
UNLV Nevada
Air Force Colorado State
Utah State Boise State
Fresno State Boise State
San Jose State Fresno State
Nevada UNLV

UNNAMED
Rutgers UConn
West Virginia
Louisville Cincinnati
Cincinnati Louisville
UConn Rutgers
USF UCF
UCF USF
Memphis Cincinnati
Houston Rice
Rice Houston
Army Navy
Navy Army

Sorry for the bad formatting. Rivals are on the right. Maybe I replace Memphis with Marshall or something

[cuervo72]

See, I’d be tempted to put MD, WVU, Pitt, and Syracuse all in the Big 10. (Sorry, BC!) Of course this is largely based off of PSU rivalries of like 50 years ago…

[cuervo72]

Dola - I didn’t notice you had ND in the B1G. Kick them out and take BC, because eff ND.

(Interesting - autocorrect wants to make “dola” into “fils”. Which…kinda fits.)