Werewolf XXIII - Lost - Game Over! Survivors win! - Page 7

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

Is there a benefit to doing that?

Other then my personal enjoyment of the game, no

saldana · 02-10-2006, 08:28 PM

i am gonna have a friggin stroke if we start the "lets force a tie" crap again...that didnt work for us at all last game.

Desnudo · 02-10-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Other then my personal enjoyment of the game, no

Hehe, I think you already seem to get enough personal enjoyment out of this game. I'm not particularly interested in seeing either King or Mr. W go the first night since I think they're both good players. But it looks like one will be. Since I don't know that you're not an Other, I'd prefer not to leave it in your hands, no offense.

Desmond · 02-10-2006, 08:33 PM

Noob question, what happens in case of a tie?

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Desmond

Noob question, what happens in case of a tie?

depends on ardent and how he set up the rules...either a tie-breaker role breaks it, duke decides, last first vote decides, or neither die...

Desnudo · 02-10-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Desmond

Noob question, what happens in case of a tie?

It depends on the rules. Sometimes there's a built-in tiebreaker, like the last person to receive a lynch vote is the one lynched. Other times there's roles, like someone's vote might be counted double in case of a tie. Last game there was a % of total votes calculation that determined whether one, both, or none died.

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

Hehe, I think you already seem to get enough personal enjoyment out of this game. I'm not particularly interested in seeing either King or Mr. W go the first night since I think they're both good players. But it looks like one will be. Since I don't know that you're not an Other, I'd prefer not to leave it in your hands, no offense.

None taken...it was kind of a joke

Desnudo · 02-10-2006, 08:39 PM

All right, let me on the wagon train. Let's roll the dice:

Vote Mr. Wednesday

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 08:46 PM

I really dont like this...wednesday is dead, and i think he had a special role for the good guys...

Raiders Army · 02-10-2006, 08:51 PM

Strange that mckerney voted for a bolded name since he made a big deal out of it before.

Poli · 02-10-2006, 08:53 PM

As the day progresses the survivors of the crash bicker about what they've seen and who is responsible.

Near mid afternoon it's revealed that a huge prison has been dug into the ground just off the beach.

"The ones responsible will be thrown in there until they finally admit what they've done is wrong!" someone yells.

Paranoia ensues.

Raiders Army · 02-10-2006, 08:54 PM

Interesting developments. Prison?

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

As the day progresses the survivors of the crash bicker about what they've seen and who is responsible.

Near mid afternoon it's revealed that a huge prison has been dug into the ground just off the beach.

"The ones responsible will be thrown in there until they finally admit what they've done is wrong!" someone yells.

Paranoia ensues.

No role reveals on death maybe....that could be very bad

SnDvls · 02-10-2006, 08:57 PM

does it mean there might also be a jail break like in the outlaws game?

saldana · 02-10-2006, 08:57 PM

perhaps someone in prison loses their abilites? kind of like the outlaw game?

SnDvls · 02-10-2006, 09:01 PM

it's almost 8 PM here isn't it past deadline?

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

it's almost 8 PM here isn't it past deadline?

yes, mr. w is dead

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 09:21 PM

SnDvls · 02-10-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

ECHO

mckerney · 02-10-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Strange that mckerney voted for a bolded name since he made a big deal out of it before.

I made a big deal out of deciding to vote for someone because their name was in bold. I honestly believe that being bolded has no impact on what role someone has. As I stated in post #104, "I may vote for someone whose name is bold, but the fact that it is in bold will have nothing to do with the decision." My stand by my argument, which as Blade correctly speculated was simply me giving reason for my innocence when he was going under the theory that bold names meant something.

My reasons for voting for Mr. Wednesday were simple, it was quite obvious to me at the time of voting that he was going to be gone anyway. I saw no need to create enemies who could then potentially have reason to vote for me later on, or be a target for assassination by one of the others trying to frame someone else, especially when we having absolutely nothing to go on at this point.

If someone trying to save their own ass appears strange, the same can be said for any one of us at this point.

saldana · 02-10-2006, 09:22 PM

where the hell is ardent

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

ECHO

Sure is quiet around here...a lot of stuff went down today

tanglewood · 02-10-2006, 09:24 PM

Hi, sorry about not being arouind earlier, only just got in. Reading up what happened now...

SnDvls · 02-10-2006, 09:24 PM

yup, not sure where to go with it all. You got any thoughts before AE posts the lynch write up?

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

I made a big deal out of deciding to vote for someone because their name was in bold. I honestly believe that being bolded has no impact on what role someone has. As I stated in post #104, "I may vote for someone whose name is bold, but the fact that it is in bold will have nothing to do with the decision." My stand by my argument, which as Blade correctly speculated was simply me giving reason for my innocence when he was going under the theory that bold names meant something.

My reasons for voting for Mr. Wednesday were simple, it was quite obvious to me at the time of voting that he was going to be gone anyway. I saw no need to create enemies who could then potentially have reason to vote for me later on, or be a target for assassination by one of the others trying to frame someone else, especially when we having absolutely nothing to go on at this point.

By making this comment you achieved everything you didnt want to...in the first paragraph you have made yourself an assasination target to frame me, and with the second you have admitted every reason a wolf would make that vote...just wow

Schmidty · 02-10-2006, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

By making this comment you achieved everything you didnt want to...in the first paragraph you have made yourself an assasination target to frame me, and with the second you have admitted every reason a wolf would make that vote...just wow

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Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

yup, not sure where to go with it all. You got any thoughts before AE posts the lynch write up?

I saw a link between hoops and mckerney today, from hoops' defense to them both being the swing votes to lynch mr. w...it seemed to me mr. w was a good guy, a special good guy...and i normally dont like his play so when i say so you have to believe i think it. I think the other two bolds, saldana and raiders are most likely good...

Lastly, in regards to mckerney/hoops, a sway went to king over mr.w, and right when mr. w left, hoops and mckerney moved it back to mr. w...very interesting

Poli · 02-10-2006, 09:30 PM

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

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Whats the hold-up buddy?

SnDvls · 02-10-2006, 09:31 PM

I think today will turn out to be a wasted day only because Mr. W wasn't here to defend himself from the start and some others got in on that bandwagon.

Schmidty · 02-10-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Whats the hold-up buddy?

He likes to watch you go into ridiculous convulsions of spasticness....

mckerney · 02-10-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

By making this comment you achieved everything you didnt want to...in the first paragraph you have made yourself an assasination target to frame me, and with the second you have admitted every reason a wolf would make that vote...just wow

Perhaps I am an assassination target now. In that case, I can only hope my vote didn't go to get rid of a special survivor who could protect me as you have speculated. Though if that is a reason that one of the others would have made the vote, it's also a reason that a survivor would too. I simply wanted to avoid voting for someone that would still be around on the island with no real reason to make the vote, which is why I waited as long as I did to make my decision.

Alan T · 02-10-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I think today will turn out to be a wasted day only because Mr. W wasn't here to defend himself from the start and some others got in on that bandwagon.

very rarely do we ever seem to lynch a bad person on day 1. Most likely both king and Mr. W were good guys just based on odds alone, unless we are very lucky that tends to usually be the case.. However we can usually learn something about people's actions built up over a few days. Maybe something from today will jump out at us tommorrow or the next day once we know more.

Poli · 02-10-2006, 09:37 PM

Initially, survivors point at each other. Eventually, a fist fight breaks out. It's hard to sort out just what is going on.

The survivors break off into groups, each trying to decide who should go into the prison first. The largest group, with eight people in it, come out of their makeshift huddle and grab Mr. Wednesday.

Wednesday fights and screams that he was on the plane...but to no avail. No one comes to his rescue.

Mr. Wednesday screams from the pit, but everyone just ignores him. Maybe he'll eventually confess.

Night actions are due by Monday morning at 9am CST, but would greatly be appreciated by 9am CST tomorrow.

Sleep tight, survivors.

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 09:38 PM

Can people in prison be killed or freed?

Alan T · 02-10-2006, 09:40 PM

Does anyone know if this prison is part of the show? if so, what are some details about it?

saldana · 02-10-2006, 09:42 PM

ok, so a lynch vote sends you to jail...anyone with background from the show have anything about this jail pit?

i am wondering if we have to vote the same person 2 times to acutally lynch them.

i am also totally confused, as we essentially spent the whole day learning nothing except for voting patterns, but we have no perspective on those patterns without the actual lynch/role reveal

tanglewood · 02-10-2006, 09:43 PM

Right, well as per standard day 1 procedure I don't really have any read on anyone yet. Still not too sure why Mr. W has been singled out, could someone summarise for me?

What implications does the jail have? Possibly those 'lynched' go to jail, so could they be freed later? Does that mean no reveal?

spleen1015 · 02-10-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Does anyone know if this prison is part of the show? if so, what are some details about it?

The Tailies dug a big hole and used it as a prison when they thought one of their folks were a part of the Others.

Then, when the first group of folks found them, they got thrown into the pit as well because the Tailies didn't know hwo they were.

tanglewood · 02-10-2006, 09:44 PM

Crap, just realised it seems that I missed the vote. I thought the deadline was 9pm CT = 4am GMT?

spleen1015 · 02-10-2006, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

Right, well as per standard day 1 procedure I don't really have any read on anyone yet. Still not too sure why Mr. W has been singled out, could someone summarise for me?

What implications does the jail have? Possibly those 'lynched' go to jail, so could they be freed later? Does that mean no reveal?

I voted Mr. W because he hadn't checked in by then. By the time he showed up, I didn't see a need to change the vote.

That is why I vote for Mr. W.

Alan T · 02-10-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

Crap, just realised it seems that I missed the vote. I thought the deadline was 9pm CT = 4am GMT?

It was 3am GMT

Celeval · 02-10-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

ok, so a lynch vote sends you to jail...anyone with background from the show have anything about this jail pit?

i am wondering if we have to vote the same person 2 times to acutally lynch them.

i am also totally confused, as we essentially spent the whole day learning nothing except for voting patterns, but we have no perspective on those patterns without the actual lynch/role reveal

In the show, the prison was in the second camp - the one that didn't come into play until the second season. Those put there generally got back out. However, there were killings - both by the Others and of the Others, and the killings were not who was in the 'prison' area.

I think this implies one in the prison can be released - but if someone is killed (rather than imprisoned), they're gone.

tanglewood · 02-10-2006, 09:46 PM

Ah, 9 am CST = 3 am GMT. Whoops.....

Well that sucks.

Alan T · 02-10-2006, 09:47 PM

Ok, then so not only do we know if Mr. Wednesday is still able to communicate, we don't know if he can still vote, or if not currently will he ever have a possibility to again.. And we do not know if he was an other? I'm so confused!

Desmond · 02-10-2006, 09:48 PM

Odd. There is no "jail" on the show. There was an episode where Sayid "tortured" a dude to get info out of him but I can't remember if that person was a survivor or someone from the outside. This nights action isn't really taking from Lost as far as I can tell.

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Ok, then so not only do we know if Mr. Wednesday is still able to communicate, we don't know if he can still vote, or if not currently will he ever have a possibility to again.. And we do not know if he was an other? I'm so confused!

Im guessing its like the outlaw game...most everything will be learned through night actions

mckerney · 02-10-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Ok, then so not only do we know if Mr. Wednesday is still able to communicate, we don't know if he can still vote, or if not currently will he ever have a possibility to again.. And we do not know if he was an other? I'm so confused!

Agreed. Some clarification is really necessary.

Blade6119 · 02-10-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Desmond

Odd. There is no "jail" on the show. There was an episode where Sayid "tortured" a dude to get info out of him but I can't remember if that person was a survivor or someone from the outside. This nights action isn't really taking from Lost as far as I can tell.

Was sayid like a information guy?...possible see? Sorry, dont feel like going all the way back to find out

mckerney · 02-10-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Desmond

Odd. There is no "jail" on the show. There was an episode where Sayid "tortured" a dude to get info out of him but I can't remember if that person was a survivor or someone from the outside. This nights action isn't really taking from Lost as far as I can tell.

Season 2, Ana Lucia digs a jail when she suspect someone from the island is with them, and then throws Michael, Sayer, and Jin in the jail after they was ashore.

02-10-2006, 08:46 PM	#309
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	I really dont like this...wednesday is dead, and i think he had a special role for the good guys... __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

02-10-2006, 08:53 PM	#311
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	As the day progresses the survivors of the crash bicker about what they've seen and who is responsible. Near mid afternoon it's revealed that a huge prison has been dug into the ground just off the beach. "The ones responsible will be thrown in there until they finally admit what they've done is wrong!" someone yells. Paranoia ensues. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-10-2006, 09:21 PM	#318
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	ECHO __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

02-10-2006, 09:30 PM	#328
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-10-2006, 09:37 PM	#334
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Initially, survivors point at each other. Eventually, a fist fight breaks out. It's hard to sort out just what is going on. The survivors break off into groups, each trying to decide who should go into the prison first. The largest group, with eight people in it, come out of their makeshift huddle and grab Mr. Wednesday. Wednesday fights and screams that he was on the plane...but to no avail. No one comes to his rescue. Mr. Wednesday screams from the pit, but everyone just ignores him. Maybe he'll eventually confess. Night actions are due by Monday morning at 9am CST, but would greatly be appreciated by 9am CST tomorrow. Sleep tight, survivors. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-10-2006, 08:28 PM	#302
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i am gonna have a friggin stroke if we start the "lets force a tie" crap again...that didnt work for us at all last game.

02-10-2006, 08:33 PM	#304
Desmond Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Hatch	Noob question, what happens in case of a tie?

02-10-2006, 08:39 PM	#308
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	All right, let me on the wagon train. Let's roll the dice: Vote Mr. Wednesday

02-10-2006, 08:51 PM	#310
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Strange that mckerney voted for a bolded name since he made a big deal out of it before.

02-10-2006, 08:54 PM	#312
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Interesting developments. Prison?

02-10-2006, 08:57 PM	#314
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	does it mean there might also be a jail break like in the outlaws game?

02-10-2006, 08:57 PM	#315
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	perhaps someone in prison loses their abilites? kind of like the outlaw game?

02-10-2006, 09:01 PM	#316
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	it's almost 8 PM here isn't it past deadline?

02-10-2006, 09:22 PM	#321
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	where the hell is ardent

02-10-2006, 09:24 PM	#323
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Hi, sorry about not being arouind earlier, only just got in. Reading up what happened now...

02-10-2006, 09:24 PM	#324
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	yup, not sure where to go with it all. You got any thoughts before AE posts the lynch write up?

02-10-2006, 09:31 PM	#330
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I think today will turn out to be a wasted day only because Mr. W wasn't here to defend himself from the start and some others got in on that bandwagon.

02-10-2006, 09:38 PM	#335
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Can people in prison be killed or freed? __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

02-10-2006, 09:40 PM	#336
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Does anyone know if this prison is part of the show? if so, what are some details about it?

02-10-2006, 09:42 PM	#337
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	ok, so a lynch vote sends you to jail...anyone with background from the show have anything about this jail pit? i am wondering if we have to vote the same person 2 times to acutally lynch them. i am also totally confused, as we essentially spent the whole day learning nothing except for voting patterns, but we have no perspective on those patterns without the actual lynch/role reveal

02-10-2006, 09:43 PM	#338
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Right, well as per standard day 1 procedure I don't really have any read on anyone yet. Still not too sure why Mr. W has been singled out, could someone summarise for me? What implications does the jail have? Possibly those 'lynched' go to jail, so could they be freed later? Does that mean no reveal?

02-10-2006, 09:44 PM	#340
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Crap, just realised it seems that I missed the vote. I thought the deadline was 9pm CT = 4am GMT?

02-10-2006, 09:46 PM	#344
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Ah, 9 am CST = 3 am GMT. Whoops..... Well that sucks.

02-10-2006, 09:47 PM	#345
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Ok, then so not only do we know if Mr. Wednesday is still able to communicate, we don't know if he can still vote, or if not currently will he ever have a possibility to again.. And we do not know if he was an other? I'm so confused!

02-10-2006, 09:48 PM	#346
Desmond Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Hatch	Odd. There is no "jail" on the show. There was an episode where Sayid "tortured" a dude to get info out of him but I can't remember if that person was a survivor or someone from the outside. This nights action isn't really taking from Lost as far as I can tell.

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