Go West, Young Man: A CIE Player Creation Thread

[SelzShoes]

Ok class, you start a dynasty set in the 1940’s and before the Dodgers and Giants move west, what is the one cliché you must include? That’s right, the PCL declaring itself Major League! While this has not happened yet in the storyline, I figured we all knew it was to be.

The basic rules of creation are taken from metsgeek’s PLAUGE dynasty, and used with his permission. Full rundown of creation rules will be posted later today. The period for creation is from when the rules are posted to Midnight (CST) March 29, 2006. There is at this time no plans to have another player creation window. Readers can create as many players as they want, but each subsequent player created in a class will not have as many points to spend for creation. (so if you create 3 players, one from each class, there is no penalty to any of them. But if you create 3 'established' players, then the second and third will be penalized)

Readers will have 3 classes of players to create: Established, expansion and Negro Leaguer. Each will have pluses and minuses.

Established players will be assigned to one of the following: San Diego, Sacramento, Oakland, Hollywood, Seattle or Portland. Established players have the most points for creation, but must be at least 32 years old at the start of play. Talent equals ratings.

Expansion players will be assigned to one of the following: Phoenix, yet to be named PCL club, Minneapolis, Columbus and Buffalo. Least amount of points for creation, but can not be older than 28. Talent is greater than ratings.

Negro Leaguer can be signed by any club that is integrated. In the middle in terms of point for creation, no age restrictions. Talent is greater than ratings. Only a 10% chance player will be signed by a club.

Details later.

[SelzShoes]

Again, thanks to Metsgeek for his work on this

Note - You will be required to do some MATH

Each player starts with a set amount of "dollars", with which to buy various attributes, according to the following charts

 
Established Batters - $450   Established Pitchers - $350
Expansion Batters   - $400   Expansion Pitchers   - $300
Negro League Batters- $425   Negro League Pitchers- $325

Talents (1-90): Cost $1 per point

Batters: Contact/Gap/Power/Eye/Avoid K   
- No Talent may be above 90
- No Talent may be below 20
- If a Talent is below 30, the next highest must be at least 20 points higher 
- Total Points Allocated to Talents may not exceed 350
  nor be less than 250

Pitchers: Stuff/Control/Movement
- No Talent may be above 90
- No Talent may be below 40
- Total Points Allocated to Talents may not exceed 225
  nor be less than 150

Pitcher Endurance (1-20): Cost $2 per point
Hold Baserunners (1-5): Cost $2 per point
Groundball %: Generated by AI
Velocity: Generated by AI

Speed/Stealing/Instincts (1-20): Cost $2 per point
- Total Points Allocated may not exceed 45 ($100)
  nor be less than 15 ($10).  Only one of the three may exceed 15.

Sac Bunt/Bunt for Hit (1-5): Cost $1 per point

Hitter Type (Spray/Normal/Pull): Your Choice

Injury Rating
Prone - $0  Normal - $25  Durable - $40

Defense (1-20): $2 per point
- Max Points per position = 16
- Allowed up to 4 different positions (unless a pitcher)
- Fielding % is the average of position in 1946

Arm (1-20): Cost $1 per point
- No limit. IF/OF/C are distinct

Character:
Loyalty - Your Choice
Need Winning Team - Your Choice
Leader Ability - None $0/Some $1/Great $3
Clutch Performance - Suffers $0/Normal $2/Great $5
Consistency - Very Inconsistent $0/Average $2/Good $5

Expansion and Negro Leaguer Ratings - Your starting ratings will be a percentage of your Talents. Your age will determine the initial rating percentage as listed in the chart below.

AGE   MAX %
17    30
18    36
19    42
20    48
21    54    
22    60
23    66
24    72
25    78
26    84
27    90
28    96

Example - Your talents: 80/60/50/70/50. You decide to start your player at 23. Your % at 23 is 66% which would result in starting ratings of 53/40/33/46/33 (66% of the above talents rounded up).

A few other things of note:

Each subsequent player created in a class is penalized $25. Example: Your first 'established player gets the full $450, the second $425, the third $400, etc

The players do not have to be ancestors. You may give them fictional names of your own.

No stupid names, please...such as Dick Hurtz, Joey Bag-O-Donuts, etc....

This is my first one of these, I hope it works out.

[Vince]

Sweet. Count me in...

Vince Cressio
Expansion Player
Contact: 70
Gap: 60
Power: 30
Eye: 50
Avoid K's: 30
Speed: 7
Stealing Ability: 7
Running Instincts: 16
Spray Hitter
Durable
Range at SS: 16
IF Arm: 15
Loyal, Endorses Team
Wants Winner: No, not at all
Leadership: Great
Clutch Performance: Great
Consistency: Great

[Vince]

Dola -- I'll be 24 years old, if that is alright.

[SelzShoes]

Originally Posted by Vince

Dola -- I'll be 24 years old, if that is alright.

That is alright.

[SirFozzie]

Rabbit Donovan -22 year old Expansion Player
Born: Spokane, WA

Talents (1-90): Cost $1 per point
Contact 85
Gap 45
Power 20
Eye 65
Avoid K 65

$280

Speed/Stealing/Instincts (1-20): Cost $2 per point

Speed: 18
Stealing 6
Instincts 5

$58

Sac Bunt/Bunt for Hit (1-5): Cost $1 per point
3
Sac Bunt 3
Bunt For Hit 5

Total $8

Spray Hitter

Injury Rating Prone $0

Defense (1-20): $2 per point
SS: 8, 2B 8 ($32)

Arm (1-20): Cost $1 per point
IF: 15 ($15)

Loyalty - Loyal
Need Winning Team -No, Not at all
Leader Ability - Great $3
Clutch Performance - Normal $2
Consistency - Average $2

[SelzShoes]

Bump--will be out of town for a few days

Since there isn't a whole lotta responses, if you want to pick which city you would like to have your creation play in--I will allow that. If you have already created a player, go back and add that info.

Expansion players can choose from:

Phoenix, Minneapolis, Columbus, Buffalo and an as yet unnamed PCL city

Established players can choose from:

San Diego, Hollywood, Sacramento, Oakland, Portland, or Seattle

[fantastic flying froggies]

note to remind myself to do this when I get home

[Vince]

Just as long as my guy is nowhere near the Los Angeles area, I'm ok with that.

[fantastic flying froggies]

Originally Posted by Vince

Just as long as my guy is nowhere near the Los Angeles area, I'm ok with that.

BTW Vince, I think your player may not be legal, it doesn't meet this criteria:

Total Points Allocated to Talents may not exceed 350
  nor be less than 250

[fantastic flying froggies]

OK, my turn now - first, an old power hitter and good defensive first baseman.

Jimmy Fitzpatrick
Age 32
Established Batters - $450

Talents (1-90): Cost $1 per point
Contact: 72
Gap : 66
Power: 86
Eye: 68
Avoid K: 58
total: $350

Speed/Stealing/Instincts (1-20): Cost $2 per point
Speed : 8
Stealing: 1
Instincts : 14
total: $46

Sac Bunt/Bunt for Hit (1-5): Cost $1 per point
Sac Bunt: 3
Bunt for Hit: 1
total $4

Hitter Type : Normal

Injury Rating Prone - $0

Defense (1-20): $2 per point
1B: 15
total: $30

Arm (1-20): IF=7 Cost $1 per point
total $7

Character:
Loyalty - loyal
Need Winning Team - no
Leader Ability - Great $3
Clutch Performance - Great $5
Consistency - Good $5
Would like to play for Portland

[fantastic flying froggies]

Second, a young and promising speedy centerfielder

Graham Walker
Age 21
Expansion Batters - $400

Talents (1-90): Cost $1 per point
Contact: 74
Gap: 41
Power: 21
Eye: 68
Avoid K: 62
total $266

Speed/Stealing/Instincts (1-20): Cost $2 per point
Speed: 11
Stealing: 12
Instincts: 7
total $60

Sac Bunt/Bunt for Hit (1-5): Cost $1 per point
Sac Bunt: 2
Bunt for hit: 4
total $6

Hitter Type : Normal

Injury Rating Normal - $25

Defense (1-20): $2 per point
CF: 12
total $24

Arm (1-20): Cost $1 per point
OF: 11

Character:
Loyalty - not great
Need Winning Team - yes
Leader Ability - Some $1
Clutch Performance - Great $5
Consistency - Average $2
Team does not matter.

[fantastic flying froggies]

And last, a Negro Leaguer from the Bayou, starting pitcher material desperate to make the switch to the big leagues.

Winston Lafayette
Age 26
Negro League Pitcher ($325)

Talents (1-90): Cost $1 per point
Stuff : 49
Control: 80
Movement: 76
total $205

Pitcher Endurance (1-20): 14 Cost $2 per point=$28
Hold Baserunners (1-5): 3 (Cost $2 per point=$6)
total $34

Speed/Stealing/Instincts (1-20): Cost $2 per point (do those apply to pitchers ? I wasn't quite sure...)
Speed: 4
Stealing: 4
Instincts: 7
total $30

Sac Bunt/Bunt for Hit (1-5): Cost $1 per point
Sac Bunt: 4
Bunt for hit: 2
total $6

Hitter Type : spray

Injury Rating Normal - $25

Defense (1-20): 9 $2 per point=$18
Arm (1-20): IF=5 Cost $1 per point=$5

Character:
Loyalty - loyal to any team who'll give him a chance to play in the Major Leagues
Need Winning Team - no, see above - will play for any team in the Majors willing to take him on
Leader Ability - None $0
Clutch Performance - Normal $2
Consistency - Very Inconsistent $0

(I hope I got these right, there was a couple of times I wasn't quite sure how the rules applied to a pitcher)

[Sublime 2]

Owen Hunter
22 yr old Expansion Pitcher
$300

Talents
Stuff: $80
Control: $49
Movement: $52
Total: $181

Endurance: 15 cost $30
Hold Baserunners: 1 cost $2
Total: $32

Speed: 5 cost $10
Stealing: 1 cost $2
Instincts: 3 cost $6
Total: $18

Sac Bunt: $5
Bunt for Hit: $1
Total: $6

Hitter Type: Pull

Injury Rating: Normal $25


Defense: 10 cost $20
Arm: $5
Total: $25

Character:
Loyalty - High
Need Winning Team - High
Leader Ability - Great $3
Clutch Performance - Great $5
Consistency - Good $5
Total: $13

I think that adds up to $300...if any problems just tell me.
And throw me into Columbus if that's ok.

[Vince]

Originally Posted by fantastic flying froggies

BTW Vince, I think your player may not be legal, it doesn't meet this criteria:

Total Points Allocated to Talents may not exceed 350
  nor be less than 250

Good call...I'll modify it shortly. I think I messed up on the bunting part too.

[Vince]

Vince Cressio
24 year old Expansion Player
Contact: 70
Gap: 60
Power: 40
Eye: 50
Avoid K's: 30

($250)

Speed: 7
Stealing Ability: 7
Running Instincts: 16

($60)

Sac Bunt: 5
Bunt for Hit: 5

($10)

Spray Hitter
Injury Rating: Normal ($25)
Range at SS: 16 ($32)
IF Arm: 15 ($15)
Loyal, Endorses Team
Wants Winner: No, not at all
Leadership: Some Ability ($1)
Clutch Performance: Great ($5)
Consistency: Average ($2)

[SelzShoes]

Note--sign up ends at midnight (central time) tonight

[Vince]

Rod Lockheart
Established Pitcher (San Diego)

Stuff: 80
Control: 65
Movement: 80
($225)

Endurance: 20
Holding Runners: 1
($42)

Sac Bunt: 5
Bunt for Hit: 1
($6)

Speed: 5
Stealing Ability: 5
Running Instincts: 5
($30)

Hitter Type: Spray
Injury Rating: Durable
($40)

Defense: 1
IF Arm: 1
Loyalty: Normal
Needs Winning Team: Sometimes
Leader Ability: None
Clutch Rating: Normal
Consistency: Normal
($7)

[Sublime 2]

Maximus Meridius
Established Batters - $450 (Hollywood)

Batters:
Contact - 70
Gap - 60
Power - 90
Eye - 60
Avoid K - 40

$320

Speed - 9
Stealing - 5
Instincts - 12

$52

Sac Bunt - 1
Bunt for Hit - 1

$2

Hitter Type - Normal

Injury Rating - Durable

$40

Defense:
2B - 9

$18

Arm - 8

$8

Character:
Loyalty - Low
Need Winning Team - Very High
Leader Ability - None $0
Clutch Performance - Great $5
Consistency - Good $5

[SelzShoes]

The sign up period is now over, thank you for all who created a player.

[SelzShoes]

I'm putting together the "Spring Training" Rosters, here is where created players with no requested teams are:

Wally Klukas--Minneapolis Millers, will recieve an invite to the Major League camp. Given the youth Minneapolis has at short, there is a chance he could break camp with the starting job.

Vince Cressio--Hollywood Stars, will recieve an invite to Major League camp. The Stars are probably the best team in the PCL, will have to have a great spring to make the big league team. Even if he doesn't, should be a quick call up if the tandem of Barlkey and Bartley don't get the job done.

Rabbit Donovan--Phoenix Senators, will be at the Major League camp. Should make the club, but this could be the 27th best team in baseball, so I don't know if that is a good thing or bad thing for Rabbit.

Graham Walker--Buffalo Bison, uncertain if he will recieve an invite to Major League camp. The Bisons other big prospect is a corner OF slugger, and the age of the invited OFers leaves the door open with a good spring for Walker to make the team.

The created players with teams specified are on the requested teams. In a couple weeks (real time) we'll have a better idea where the created Negro Leaguers will end up.

[SelzShoes]

I'm putting together the "Spring Training" Rosters, here is where created players with no requested teams are:

Wally Klukas--Minneapolis Millers, will recieve an invite to the Major League camp. Given the youth Minneapolis has at short, there is a chance he could break camp with the starting job.

Vince Cressio--Hollywood Stars, will recieve an invite to Major League camp. The Stars are probably the best team in the PCL, will have to have a great spring to make the big league team. Even if he doesn't, should be a quick call up if the tandem of Barlkey and Bartley don't get the job done.

Rabbit Donovan--Phoenix Senators, will be at the Major League camp. Should make the club, but this could be the 27th best team in baseball, so I don't know if that is a good thing or bad thing for Rabbit.

Graham Walker--Buffalo Bison, uncertain if he will recieve an invite to Major League camp. The Bisons other big prospect is a corner OF slugger, and the age of the invited OFers leaves the door open with a good spring for Walker to make the team.

The created players with teams specified are on the requested teams. In a couple weeks (real time) we'll have a better idea where the created Negro Leaguers will end up.

[SelzShoes]

Brief outlook for created players for specific teams:

Owen Hunter, Columbus Clippers: The Clips went old, excuse me, experienced, for most of thier pitching signings. Hunter will start at minor league camp, I would say right now the Clips no. 1 pitching prospect could make a mid-season apperance, if the Columbus is out of the race.

Maximus Meridius and Harley Gathers, Hollywood Stars: the main reasons the Stars are figured to run away with the PCL. The press and the fans have put the burden of winning on thier shoulders--can these two steal enough fans from the NAL Lancers to make the PCL viable in the LA area?

Jimmy Fitzpatrick and Charlie Denton, Portland Beavers: Ever been a fan of a team that does dumb things? Like signing washed up Hal Trosky to compete with one of the top PCL firstbasemen, or going really cheap on the supporting cast. Both guys will have All-Star quality season for a .500 or worst team. On the plus side . . . I'm not sure what the plus side is.

Anton Gogolak, Sacramento Solons: Anchors a very good infield. The club most likely to challenge the Stars for the title, but only if they can find some OF help.

Rod Lockheart, San Diego Padres: Rod and fellow starter Al Brazle will be sueing the offense for non-support by mid-year. The Pads look to lose too many 2-1, 1-0 games to make the pitchers happy.

Dashiell Spivey, unnamed expansion PCL club
and
Josephus Bricker, Achilles Brown and Winston Lafayette, Negro Leaguers: a little longer wait.