07-11-2006, 02:41 PM | #351 |
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Franklin moves in with the most successful attempt at a thread jack so far.
Also. Just what did Sov get boxed for, if it wasn't for the use of the word fagott/fagotty? |
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07-11-2006, 02:46 PM | #353 | |
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No, I don't think I will. But thanks anyway. Maybe I should just not give a damn anymore, but at this point, I'd rather keep on making that point until something is done about it. The real problem is that the mod community here is too proud to take my suggestions seriously. Admitting that I'm right would bruise their egos. Unbanning people like Suicaine, WrongWay, Jesse, and, yes, Capsicum, wouldn't hurt a damned thing around here. And it would take all of ten minutes to set up a sub-forum for problem threads. Moving a problem thread takes about three seconds. So don't give me this crap about how much trouble it would be, because that a load of garbage. We have at least half a dozen mods here who have demonstrated that they have plenty of time to pay attention to the board. |
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07-11-2006, 02:49 PM | #356 | |
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I don't know if he was quoting a movie I have or haven't seen or not. I do know that a lot of people use that particular slang all of the time, in a variety of situations. Those situations include good natured humor. You saw no indication that he was kidding. Why was it assumed that it was done with a particularly venomous intent? Was there any indication that he wasn't kidding? This would be a good opportunity to review my comment that over eager mods should look for opportunities to restrain themselves, perhaps question if they are mis interpreting someone's post. |
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07-11-2006, 02:50 PM | #357 | |
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It wasn't the word I guess, it was that he was trolling.
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But, that's part of the reason people don't cut you much slack on this, FN. You yourself have already done something about it, by becoming moderator of Sportsdigs. So people do have at least one alternative to FOFC. Why try to make the two clones of each other?
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07-11-2006, 02:51 PM | #359 | |
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Unbanning wouldn't hurt them one bit. But that's because anyone with two neurons left to rub together would say "So long and thanks for all the fish" and this forum would be nothing but trolls trolling each other. And this pretty much open and shut boxing (Not banning, boxing) proves that any action the Mods take will be yelled about and cried about. Suck it up, Francis. Deal.
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Sorry WM, but I'm not sure what conclusions can/should be drawn from that either. And I'm not saying that to bust your balls specifically, but since you brought it up I think it might as well be addressed too. It may very well be relevant to the larger topic anyway. My impression, rightly or wrongly, is that he is absent from FOFC more than not at this point. Again, just my impression, that this is related to increased demands IRL that have reduced the amount of time he has to spend here. Or maybe he just tired of it. Or whatever. But what this potentially raises would be a question of whether it would be better for him to be, in effect, an absentee owner who has handed over day-to-day operations to designees or whether it might be time to try to convince him to more formally hand over ownership to another single party. Lest there be any confusion about what I'm trying to say, I believe he has every right and an inalienable right to make whatever choice he sees fit ... but that doesn't preclude anyone else from having an opinion about the choices he makes nor from trying to influence him in those choices. Granted too, that I'm not sure any effort to "try to convince" would be effective (perhaps even counter-productive) but that's sort of cart-before-the-horse to determine until the notion of "would it be better" is considered.
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I don't think you're paying very close attention here. For starters, I've suggested the trolling threads (all of them... including this one) get moved to a sub-forum. General forum readers don't even have to see it. Second, this is not an "open and shut" boxing. It might be in your opinion, but I am clearly not the only person here to disagree on that point. Third, there's a difference between "sucking it up" and being a sheep. You're afraid of the board becoming a haven for trolls, and I'm saying we're in greater danger of it becoming nothing but a haven for anyone who is of like-mind with our little moderator community. SkyDog didn't pick anyone who would argue with him, and that's the biggest weakness in his decision. |
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I think there are plenty of people here who would have no problem with the return of the banned members I mentioned. It's just the loudmouth crybabies like you that don't want anyone they can't get along with to play in their sandbox. Perhaps you should spend a little time checking yourself in that narcissism mirror you're so fond of. |
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Yes, that would be discriminating because of a belief that the race is inferior. Note that saying he is discriminating by choosing only non-whites isn't valid because there is no obvious motivation about inferiority, whereas there is in your example. Edited to add: this is really just a semantic argument that I'm not interested in. The point is that it is not hypocritical at all because running a poll for non-white women is hardly on the same level as saying africans should be caged. They are not even nearly the same, and only a stretch of the definition of racism (a really loose application of it that involves on superiority or inferiority claim) allows it to be called by the same name. Last edited by MJ4H : 07-11-2006 at 03:06 PM. |
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That would probably cause a situation of more moderation rather than less. Many threads that aren't worth boxing and probably still worth moving to a sub-forum. Would we then have to have threads like this one every time a thread got moved? Quote:
Without witnessing the inner workings of the mods, we will never know if this is an open and shut boxing. Did one mod cause the boxing? Where there 50 people reporting the posts? Hard to say how big a deal it was for the forum as a whole since we only see the views of a vocal few. Quote:
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FYI - racism is defined both as thinking that one race is superior to another and discrimination or prejudice based on race. You are making a distinction between racism and prejudice based on race, when one is the definition of the other.
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We're totally looking at 10+ pages here. Bubba's Maximum thread is in serious danger....
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As a memeber of the silent majority (and I suppose that by posting this post, I have lost that mantle), I would only point out that those of you wondering if we like the way that SkyDog runs his board (which he, of course, owns) can pay attention to what we do.
We vote with our (virtual) feet. If we like it, we stay. If we don't, we leave. Are people staying? Are people leaving? Are people going to other forums (this sounds like a dig against sportsdigs. It's not. There are lots of places on the internet that are not FOFC)? Those are the questions to ask--instead of assuming that the silent majority must agree with you. It is the free market in a very pure form. |
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I would never go into detail about any individual decisions, but the notion that I picked mods who always agree with me (or each other) is utterly laughable.
I've scanned over the points made in this thread, and my overwhelming opinion is that enough is enough. You've had ample opportunity to voice your opinions. I'm closing this thread. I plan to read this entire thread more carefully this evening, so know that your opinions in here will all be duly noted. If you've got more input to give, you can PM me. Starting a new thread to continue to beat this ridiculously dead horse will not be tolerated. --Ben
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Good lord, are you kidding me? Seriously, WTF is wrong with some people?
The real problem is that the mod community here is too proud to take my suggestions seriously. Admitting that I'm right would bruise their egos. Yeah, you know, that's why I and the other mods are doing this. It's because we have gigantic egos and are on a power trip. As a group, we've dealt out so many perma bans and so many boxing it's ridiculous, right? Oh, that's right. One permaban for WrongWay and a handful of boxings. Yeah FN, we all talk about how horrific it would be to admit you're right every chance we get. Because, you know, this forum is all about the 8-10 mods + you. Forget the hundreds of others who visit here on a daily basis. It's about the 1% of us at the top who have power and just love abusing it. Unbanning people like Suicaine, WrongWay, Jesse, and, yes, Capsicum, wouldn't hurt a damned thing around here. Yeah, of course. It's not like any of these poor, innocent people had anything to do with what happened to them. They were all just innocent bystanders caught in a helpless position. And it would take all of ten minutes to set up a sub-forum for problem threads. Moving a problem thread takes about three seconds. So don't give me this crap about how much trouble it would be, because that a load of garbage. There we go again. It's all about the vocal minority. We need to create a forum that cares for and caters to the handful of people who cause issues. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. We waste the time of the unpaid mods (I know, my mod status is able to feed my ego and power hungry attitude, that's the sole reason I do it, I'll save you the post) No FN, we don't need to do anything. SD can run this board however he sees fit. This isn't your board so stop pretending it is, ok? Look, everyone. . . if you dislike a mod decision, that's fine. I'm doing the best I can and I FULLY believe all of the other mods are as well. I'm not going to say I'm above a mistake, but i don't believe one has been made thus far. I'm not sorry if you disagree with that. I'm not sorry if you think I'm an idiot that should be banned for life because I made a decision you disagreed with. And I'll stand up for any of the mod team. This may be a news flash for some, but none of these guys are bad people. None of them want to rule the world. All of them put up with undeserved criticism, which is part and parcel with what we do. I can't convince the clearly outspoken group who hates the mod team, hates skydog and hates the world. But I can assure you that none of the mods are doing things for the sake of doing them. We aren't power hungry freaks looking for the world. |
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Just so y'all know, I'm quite sure what happened above is that Troy was writing that long post while I closed the thread. When a mod posts in a closed thread, it adds to it.
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