Players in sports career text sims

Honolulu Blue · 02-27-2007, 10:18 AM

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I'm curious about how people feel about this subject.

This text sim player is a fan of fictional players. Creating a new world that's not like any on earth is empowering, to say the least.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-27-2007, 10:23 AM

What's happening Good Twin?

I've always preferred text sims that use "real" players. For hockey, I like the idea of building a team of players I like, making lines, learning about real prospects and minor league players. For soccer, 90% of the "real" players might as well be fictional as far as I'm concerned. For football, I guess it's like hockey, I like the idea of adding pieces to a team or building a team of players I like. I'm sure there are a few other reasons too, if I thought about it long enough.

Eventually, as is the nature of sims, if the career goes on for many seasons all of the real players are eventually replaced, but I'm fine with that too. I like having the league's history grounded in reality.

JonInMiddleGA · 02-27-2007, 10:31 AM

Real players at the beginning, gradually evolving into a fictional universe over time.

Bee · 02-27-2007, 10:39 AM

Depends. Sometimes I like playing with real players and sometimes I like playing with fictional players. Depends on my mood.

Lathum · 02-27-2007, 10:40 AM

alot of it just depends on how I feel when I am starting that game

Pumpy Tudors · 02-27-2007, 10:40 AM

I LIKE TO USE REAL PLAYERS SO I CAN IMAGINE THE LOOKS ON THEIR REAL FACES WHEN I PRETEND THAT I'M WHIPPING THEM AFTER A LOSS

MikeVic · 02-27-2007, 10:50 AM

A combination of what H_B and JiMG said. I like starting with real players since I find it's easier to get involved with a new career like that. Instead of learning about 700+ players, I gradually learn about the new ones entering the league each season.

twothree · 02-27-2007, 10:50 AM

Fictional players and team. Usually no preconceived notions about how a player is suppose to play in that sim.

I also prefer fictional team contact sports, like: Blood Bowl, Crush! Deluxe, Rollerball, Jugging (or whatever the sport was called in the movie "The Blood of Heroes".), etc.

Tigercat · 02-27-2007, 11:22 AM

I like the option to have both in both text sims and sports video games. Its nice to play in a universe you know, but it can also be fun to mix things up and experience a whole universe of talent that is new.

Izulde · 02-27-2007, 11:25 AM

FOF (though I'm considering a fictional dynasty) and TPB I immensely prefer historical.

OOTP I stick more or less exclusively to fictional.

Icy · 02-27-2007, 11:52 AM

Real players most of the time, once i get bored i play fictional.

Synovia · 02-27-2007, 12:14 PM

I havent found a single football sim that does an adequate job of properly evaluating the players in the NFL, so I prefer fake players Playing with real players just leads to assumptions, and that leads to poor play.

Green Caesar · 02-27-2007, 12:26 PM

Solo career ... real to start and eventually fictional
Multiplayer ... fictional (in my experiences, too many irrational trades when real players are involved)

path12 · 02-27-2007, 01:10 PM

Fictional for me. It makes it more interesting somehow.

Raiders Army · 02-27-2007, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Real players at the beginning, gradually evolving into a fictional universe over time.

ditto

Surtt · 02-27-2007, 01:20 PM

Fictional

I find using real players a distraction.
As some one else pointed out, they're abilities usually do not translate well into the sim.

Young Drachma · 02-27-2007, 01:47 PM

I like real players eventually transitioning to a fictional universe, though the advantages of a fictional universe that I'm writing a dynasty about is that lets me focus more on the team versus the players, which I like better.

sabotai · 02-27-2007, 01:56 PM

Both. Sometimes I'm in the mood to use real players, sometimes fictional. I don't have one strong preference over the other

adubroff · 02-27-2007, 02:07 PM

I like real the first time I play the game so my learning curve for the game is enhanced by my knowledge of the real players. I.E. if I open up a new baseball sim and I see Ryan Howard, Power Hitting: 100/100 and Albert Pujols, Power Hitting: 97/100 ...I can make a pretty good assumption that "Power Hitting" has something to do with home runs. Sometimes, the ratings names in a given game are pretty obscure (Big Play Receiving), and real players can help one understand what they mean.

That being said, once I feel I've translated the game into my brain, I prefer fictional players (and they need to be different fictional players each time).

MizzouRah · 02-27-2007, 02:24 PM

Real.. then move into fictional is fine with me.

I wonder what Ben will vote?

Mike1409 · 02-27-2007, 03:25 PM

I like real players to get a feel for the game and to see how their careers evolve.

PineTar · 02-27-2007, 03:32 PM

Prefer fictional players as long as there is not an inordinate amount of Billy Joes or Bubbas.

Emiliano · 03-01-2007, 02:03 AM

When I first started playing these games, my preference was for the real universes. Now, I'm a big, big fan of "all-fictional" setups, even fictional teams. I don't mind playing with real players, of course, but I strongly prefer playing with fake ones, just to accumulate my history, my records. Hell, I'd LOVE a presim option in FOF!

View Poll Results: What kind of players do you prefer in your professional sports career text sims?
Real players	33	36.26%
Disguised players	0	0%
Fictional players	42	46.15%
doesn't matter	5	5.49%
depends on the game (please explain)	11	12.09%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

02-27-2007, 10:23 AM	#2
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	What's happening Good Twin? I've always preferred text sims that use "real" players. For hockey, I like the idea of building a team of players I like, making lines, learning about real prospects and minor league players. For soccer, 90% of the "real" players might as well be fictional as far as I'm concerned. For football, I guess it's like hockey, I like the idea of adding pieces to a team or building a team of players I like. I'm sure there are a few other reasons too, if I thought about it long enough. Eventually, as is the nature of sims, if the career goes on for many seasons all of the real players are eventually replaced, but I'm fine with that too. I like having the league's history grounded in reality. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

02-27-2007, 10:31 AM	#3
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Real players at the beginning, gradually evolving into a fictional universe over time. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

02-27-2007, 10:40 AM	#6
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I LIKE TO USE REAL PLAYERS SO I CAN IMAGINE THE LOOKS ON THEIR REAL FACES WHEN I PRETEND THAT I'M WHIPPING THEM AFTER A LOSS __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

02-27-2007, 11:22 AM	#9
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	I like the option to have both in both text sims and sports video games. Its nice to play in a universe you know, but it can also be fun to mix things up and experience a whole universe of talent that is new. Last edited by Tigercat : 02-27-2007 at 11:23 AM.

02-27-2007, 10:39 AM	#4
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	Depends. Sometimes I like playing with real players and sometimes I like playing with fictional players. Depends on my mood.

02-27-2007, 10:40 AM	#5
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	alot of it just depends on how I feel when I am starting that game

02-27-2007, 10:50 AM	#7
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	A combination of what H_B and JiMG said. I like starting with real players since I find it's easier to get involved with a new career like that. Instead of learning about 700+ players, I gradually learn about the new ones entering the league each season.

02-27-2007, 10:50 AM	#8
twothree College Prospect Join Date: May 2005	Fictional players and team. Usually no preconceived notions about how a player is suppose to play in that sim. I also prefer fictional team contact sports, like: Blood Bowl, Crush! Deluxe, Rollerball, Jugging (or whatever the sport was called in the movie "The Blood of Heroes".), etc.

02-27-2007, 11:25 AM	#10
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	FOF (though I'm considering a fictional dynasty) and TPB I immensely prefer historical. OOTP I stick more or less exclusively to fictional. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

02-27-2007, 11:52 AM	#11
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Real players most of the time, once i get bored i play fictional. __________________

02-27-2007, 12:14 PM	#12
Synovia High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	I havent found a single football sim that does an adequate job of properly evaluating the players in the NFL, so I prefer fake players Playing with real players just leads to assumptions, and that leads to poor play.

02-27-2007, 12:26 PM	#13
Green Caesar n00b Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Roswell, Georgia	Solo career ... real to start and eventually fictional Multiplayer ... fictional (in my experiences, too many irrational trades when real players are involved) __________________ Little Rock Outlaws - Shiba Football ----------------------------------------------- I feel like part of what I'm being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I'm going wherever they value loyalty the most. - Dwight Schrute

02-27-2007, 01:10 PM	#14
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Fictional for me. It makes it more interesting somehow. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

02-27-2007, 01:20 PM	#16
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	Fictional I find using real players a distraction. As some one else pointed out, they're abilities usually do not translate well into the sim. __________________ “The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” United States Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis

02-27-2007, 01:47 PM	#17
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I like real players eventually transitioning to a fictional universe, though the advantages of a fictional universe that I'm writing a dynasty about is that lets me focus more on the team versus the players, which I like better. __________________ Current dynasty: Up The Scots: Play To Clinch Tennis Dynasty \| OOTP Mod: Managerial Strategy Files \| GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github

02-27-2007, 01:56 PM	#18
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Both. Sometimes I'm in the mood to use real players, sometimes fictional. I don't have one strong preference over the other

02-27-2007, 02:07 PM	#19
adubroff High School JV Join Date: Nov 2006	I like real the first time I play the game so my learning curve for the game is enhanced by my knowledge of the real players. I.E. if I open up a new baseball sim and I see Ryan Howard, Power Hitting: 100/100 and Albert Pujols, Power Hitting: 97/100 ...I can make a pretty good assumption that "Power Hitting" has something to do with home runs. Sometimes, the ratings names in a given game are pretty obscure (Big Play Receiving), and real players can help one understand what they mean. That being said, once I feel I've translated the game into my brain, I prefer fictional players (and they need to be different fictional players each time).

02-27-2007, 02:24 PM	#20
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Real.. then move into fictional is fine with me. I wonder what Ben will vote?

02-27-2007, 03:25 PM	#21
Mike1409 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: St. Pete, FL	I like real players to get a feel for the game and to see how their careers evolve.

02-27-2007, 03:32 PM	#22
PineTar High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000	Prefer fictional players as long as there is not an inordinate amount of Billy Joes or Bubbas.

03-01-2007, 02:03 AM	#23
Emiliano College Prospect Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nuremberg, Germany	When I first started playing these games, my preference was for the real universes. Now, I'm a big, big fan of "all-fictional" setups, even fictional teams. I don't mind playing with real players, of course, but I strongly prefer playing with fake ones, just to accumulate my history, my records. Hell, I'd LOVE a presim option in FOF! __________________ Xbox Live&PSN: Emiliano81 GM of the Rome Gladiators in the WOOF

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