I really dislike the staff hiring phase, always have

Leonidas · 03-14-2007, 04:04 PM

This issue becomes really glaring in online play and I wish once and for all Jim fixed it. You offer a guy to be hired in the offseason, and someone else outbids you, but the guy still hasn't signed, and your owner has limited your funds and you can't outbid the other guy. You are now S-C-R-E-W-E-D. The game really, really, really needs the option to withdraw a bid and go after another guy. Or better yet, allow staff hiring throughout the entire offseason. In solo play never bothered me that much, but in both my online leagues I am about to get really hosed on scouts because of this.

AlexB · 03-14-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

This issue becomes really glaring in online play and I wish once and for all Jim fixed it. You offer a guy to be hired in the offseason, and someone else outbids you, but the guy still hasn't signed, and your owner has limited your funds and you can't outbid the other guy. You are now S-C-R-E-W-E-D. The game really, really, really needs the option to withdraw a bid and go after another guy. Or better yet, allow staff hiring throughout the entire offseason. In solo play never bothered me that much, but in both my online leagues I am about to get really hosed on scouts because of this.

I agree that staff hiring could be a lot better, but you can withdraw your offer and go after someone else from the main staff hiring summary screen.

Leonidas · 03-14-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

I agree that staff hiring could be a lot better, but you can withdraw your offer and go after someone else from the main staff hiring summary screen.

OK, I haven't seen that option before. I'll have to check it out in my next online sim tomorrow.

Vinatieri for Prez · 03-14-2007, 05:11 PM

Yeah, I do it all the time, when I get outbid in phase 1.

Fonzie · 03-14-2007, 08:58 PM

Staff hiring is, by far, my most detested part of the game. The process is so poor, and the results so potentially important, that I thought it was a slam dunk that Jim would improve it for 2k7.

Alas.

gstelmack · 03-15-2007, 08:41 AM

One of my big annoyances is that "so-and-so turned down an offer" is not part of the transaction log for staff. This can make it confusing for players and commishes about "did my offer make it?" vs "did he turn it down?". It would also help as commish for my small league (admittedly an aberration) seeing if everyone got the staff they requested, meaning I can blow through the remaining stages and get to the fun parts.

Leonidas · 03-15-2007, 11:19 AM

I've always fel staff hirings should be handled just like free agents. You have a pool of guys available throughout the preseason, you make offers just like with free agents. And when you let go of a guy to hire another you should have to pay out that guy's contract, which should have an effect on how much you can spend on another guy. And you should also be able to offer folks on your staff new contracts at any given time in the game.

Passacaglia · 03-15-2007, 11:50 AM

It would also be nice to renegotiate with a coach before he hits the open market. Would cause much less coach turnover.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-15-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonzie

Staff hiring is, by far, my most detested part of the game. The process is so poor, and the results so potentially important, that I thought it was a slam dunk that Jim would improve it for 2k7.

Alas.

Agree 100%.

MrBigglesworth · 03-15-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonidas

You offer a guy to be hired in the offseason, and someone else outbids you, but the guy still hasn't signed, and your owner has limited your funds and you can't outbid the other guy.

Coaches don't ALWAYS take the highest offer.

revrew · 03-24-2007, 03:00 PM

I can't believe that you can't renegotiate with your own coach before he goes up for grabs with everyone. You can't sign contract extensions while he's still under contract, etc. It's unbelievable to me that I have a coach I love, but I know that as soon as his contract is up, he's off to the "Yankees" of my MP league, and there wasn't a dang thing I could do about it.

Most of the game has done a great job of catching up to IRL, but the staff signing is still in the dark ages of FOF2k1.

Subby · 03-24-2007, 05:02 PM

Quik has some great suggestions for staff hiring improvements (including having more former players move to coach and have good ratings with their old position groups).

Anyway, I hope this is a function of the game that gets spiffed up next version.

Nothing is worse than MP coach hiring in FBCB though...

Sgran · 03-27-2007, 06:46 AM

Maybe MP leagues should devise ways to do staff hiring separately, like the draft is done. Haven't given it much thought, but you should be able to come up with rules for poaching assistant coaches and scouts, as well as penalties for firing a coach.
Maybe have poachers give draft picks as compensation.

stevew · 03-27-2007, 09:19 AM

yeah. i've always hated the offseason stages before FA. It sucks that you have only one export to try to make an offer to move your team. or that you have to tag and send a guy to europe in one specific stage. Ideally you could tag a guy(or designate for LLS) at any given stage before the beginning of FA. I had hoped that the coaching stages would improve, but hopefully there will be a major game overhaul for the next version.

Ideally having to run all the "midweek" stages during the regular season should dissapear, as well as some of the offseason tedium.

Leonidas · 03-27-2007, 01:43 PM

And one last thing I don't get. Why would ownership reduce the amount of money you can offer as each week of staff hiring goes by? That one really drives me nuts. I could offer $660K in week one, but only $540K in week 3? What happened in between, besides absolutely nothing? I'd think the opposite would happen. The owner gets desperate realizing he doesn't have a coach and has to open the pocketbook a little wider.

03-15-2007, 08:41 AM	#6
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	One of my big annoyances is that "so-and-so turned down an offer" is not part of the transaction log for staff. This can make it confusing for players and commishes about "did my offer make it?" vs "did he turn it down?". It would also help as commish for my small league (admittedly an aberration) seeing if everyone got the staff they requested, meaning I can blow through the remaining stages and get to the fun parts. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

03-15-2007, 11:19 AM	#7
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	I've always fel staff hirings should be handled just like free agents. You have a pool of guys available throughout the preseason, you make offers just like with free agents. And when you let go of a guy to hire another you should have to pay out that guy's contract, which should have an effect on how much you can spend on another guy. And you should also be able to offer folks on your staff new contracts at any given time in the game. __________________ Molon labe

03-15-2007, 11:50 AM	#8
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	It would also be nice to renegotiate with a coach before he hits the open market. Would cause much less coach turnover. __________________ Pride and Prejudice -- an FOF9 Lions dynasty, starting 1966

03-24-2007, 03:00 PM	#11
revrew Team Chaplain Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Just outside Des Moines, IA	I can't believe that you can't renegotiate with your own coach before he goes up for grabs with everyone. You can't sign contract extensions while he's still under contract, etc. It's unbelievable to me that I have a coach I love, but I know that as soon as his contract is up, he's off to the "Yankees" of my MP league, and there wasn't a dang thing I could do about it. Most of the game has done a great job of catching up to IRL, but the staff signing is still in the dark ages of FOF2k1. __________________ Winner of 6 FOFC Scribe Awards, including 3 Gold Scribes Founder of the ZFL, 2004 Golden Scribe Dynasty of the Year Now bringing The Des Moines Dragons back to life, and the joke's on YOU, NFL! I came to the Crossroad. I took it. And that has made all the difference.

03-24-2007, 05:02 PM	#12
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Quik has some great suggestions for staff hiring improvements (including having more former players move to coach and have good ratings with their old position groups). Anyway, I hope this is a function of the game that gets spiffed up next version. Nothing is worse than MP coach hiring in FBCB though... __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

03-14-2007, 05:11 PM	#4
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	Yeah, I do it all the time, when I get outbid in phase 1.

03-14-2007, 08:58 PM	#5
Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	Staff hiring is, by far, my most detested part of the game. The process is so poor, and the results so potentially important, that I thought it was a slam dunk that Jim would improve it for 2k7. Alas.

03-27-2007, 06:46 AM	#13
Sgran High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Budapest	Maybe MP leagues should devise ways to do staff hiring separately, like the draft is done. Haven't given it much thought, but you should be able to come up with rules for poaching assistant coaches and scouts, as well as penalties for firing a coach. Maybe have poachers give draft picks as compensation. Last edited by Sgran : 03-27-2007 at 06:47 AM.

03-27-2007, 09:19 AM	#14
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	yeah. i've always hated the offseason stages before FA. It sucks that you have only one export to try to make an offer to move your team. or that you have to tag and send a guy to europe in one specific stage. Ideally you could tag a guy(or designate for LLS) at any given stage before the beginning of FA. I had hoped that the coaching stages would improve, but hopefully there will be a major game overhaul for the next version. Ideally having to run all the "midweek" stages during the regular season should dissapear, as well as some of the offseason tedium. Last edited by stevew : 03-27-2007 at 09:20 AM.

03-27-2007, 01:43 PM	#15
Leonidas College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Anglia	And one last thing I don't get. Why would ownership reduce the amount of money you can offer as each week of staff hiring goes by? That one really drives me nuts. I could offer $660K in week one, but only $540K in week 3? What happened in between, besides absolutely nothing? I'd think the opposite would happen. The owner gets desperate realizing he doesn't have a coach and has to open the pocketbook a little wider. __________________ Molon labe

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