FOF 2 and Windows NT

MrP · 05-27-2003, 07:36 AM

May not be the right place to ask the question, but hey, I'm new and can't find the answer anywhere else, so if it isn't, shoot me

Does FOF2 work under Windows NT? I'm installing it on my work laptop, got the licence, start it up and I get a little box saying "Failed to create empty document". Is the prblem me, trying to install it NT - I know it says Win 95/98 in the blurb but these things normally work on NT too! Maybe I'm stuck playing it on my 98 machine at home

Cheers

Ian

Darkiller · 05-27-2003, 07:48 AM

Hi MrP,

guess what, it is supposed to be the place to ask for FOF...

(memo to Skydog : see, MrP comes here, he is new..and has no idea if he can ask a FOF related question on this board !!! don't you thing there's something wrong here ???)

I'm a FOF2 player and I'd love to help on this but I have never tested it on NT so can't answer.
Anyway, you're right, this is the place to ask this.
Hopefully someone will come with an answer, if not, bump this thread up from time to time until someone answers.

Subby · 05-27-2003, 07:49 AM

No, it won't work.

Ben E Lou · 05-27-2003, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darkiller
(memo to Skydog : see, MrP comes here, he is new..and has no idea if he can ask a FOF related question on this board !!! don't you thing there's something wrong here ???)

Your point would be well taken if MrP's IP address didn't look awfully close to your IP address.

Darkiller · 05-27-2003, 07:52 AM

??????????????????

I SWARE I DIDN'T WRITE THIS !

Marc Vaughan · 05-27-2003, 07:54 AM

If the error is cannot create document its possible that the problem is purely admin related - are you running as a user with Administrator priviledges?

(if not then try giving that a whirl)

Ben E Lou · 05-27-2003, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darkiller
??????????????????

I SWARE I DIDN'T WRITE THIS !

I have neither the time nor the inclination to do the research required to determine whether or not you wrote the post. All I know for sure is that the following facts provide an amazing coincidence if you (or someone you put up to it) didn't write it:

1. The first part of the IP address of you and MrP are unique to only the two of you. No one else on this board shares those first six digits.

2. The post is about an outdated version of FOF--a version which you have been supporter #1 of for quite some time.

3. The poster pre-supposes that this "may not be the right place to post this" and even rolls his eyes. Odd behavior for someone who just happened to do a google search, found this board (entitled "Front Office Football Central", and posted his question.

4. The post appeared when you were in the midst of complaining that this board doesn't talk about FOF enough.

5. You immediately responded to the post, espousing it as "proof" of your argument, even though you had no clue how to help the guy.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

MrP · 05-27-2003, 08:05 AM

Thanks for the replies chaps - rest assured I am not Darkiller, nor have I ever been.

in reply, yep, I'm running with full Administrator priviliges (not that I know what to do with them), the directory and all the files have full access open.

The reason I hesitated to ask here is that some boards are kinda twitchy if you put a foot in the wrong place.....

Cheers

Ian

Darkiller · 05-27-2003, 08:14 AM

Skydog..and suddently you look stupid.

If you don't "have the time" then don't write this whole scenario...for bullshit since you see it is not me.

(btw, to answer your point #2 and #5 : I indeed replied quickly to it when I saw this tread was about FOF2. Always try to when it is FOF2 related)

Ben E Lou · 05-27-2003, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darkiller
Skydog..and suddently you look stupid.

If you don't "have the time" then don't write this whole scenario...for bullshit since you see it is not me.

LOL. I look stupid??? Dude, just because "Ian" says "I'm not Darkiller" then he MUST not be, huh??? I look stupid??? That's a good one.

The evidence doesn't prove that it IS you (or someone you put up to it), but neither does it prove it ISN'T you (or someone you put up to it). This isn't a court of law, and it will never be proved beyond reasonable doubt either way, but I've got 5 strong bits of circumstances, and all you can come up with is "because MrP said so!!!" That's rich.

Darkiller · 05-27-2003, 08:42 AM

well then take some valuable time to make full researches. I invite you to do so.
What else can I say : I swore it is not me nor someone I put to it. I can't do more than invite you to make a complete research to "prove my innocence" (man o man)

Fritz · 05-27-2003, 08:48 AM

stop this now

MrP · 05-27-2003, 08:51 AM

Erm, guys, would you like to take your little pissing contest somewhere else. All I want is to find out whether FOF works/doesn't work/can be made to work under NT so I can play the bloody thing at lunchtimes at work.

I have no desire to be caught in a crossfire between two people with a "issue" with each other, and even less desire to know what it's about.

And you wonder why I hesitate to post to boards like this when all I want is an answer to a simple question........

Cheers

Ian

MizzouRah · 05-27-2003, 08:56 AM

Seriously, this fourm is titled Front Office Football Central, General Discussion. Why would you ask if it's the right place to ask the question?

Just wondering if the people around here are that intimidating.

Todd

QuikSand · 05-27-2003, 09:24 AM

***my most intimidating glare***

Bee · 05-27-2003, 09:42 AM

I'm not Mr. Pee.

Cheers

Mr. Bee

MrP · 05-27-2003, 09:47 AM

I'm intimidated by you guys. Honest. I am.

By asking the question, I had hoped to avoid all the replies saying "Are you f***ing stupid, EVERYONE knows the place for those questions is over in blahblablah forum" Well, I avoided it, only to be caught in someone's personal flame war. Oh well, it's asbestos pants time again.

Cheers
A flameproof Ian

3ric · 05-27-2003, 09:48 AM

I think MIJB#19 had this problem too, as he had NT on some machine and couldn't play FOF2 on it. They just don't mix.

Fritz · 05-27-2003, 09:53 AM

FWIW, fof4 works fine on NT4 Sp6

Bee · 05-27-2003, 10:13 AM

I'd email Jim and ask him.

MIJB#19 · 05-27-2003, 11:41 AM

3ric, FOF2 is working pretty well on NT4.

So did the TCY demos.
FOF4 demo? never tested that.

MizzouRah · 05-27-2003, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrP
I'm intimidated by you guys. Honest. I am.

By asking the question, I had hoped to avoid all the replies saying "Are you f***ing stupid, EVERYONE knows the place for those questions is over in blahblablah forum" Well, I avoided it, only to be caught in someone's personal flame war. Oh well, it's asbestos pants time again.

Cheers
A flameproof Ian

It's that damn Fritz, isn't it?

Todd

MIJB#19 · 05-27-2003, 11:45 AM

Dola (MrP, dola is a word only used at this forum and the place where they call this forum "overthere".)

Though FOF2 works excellent, I do save my games before draft days, somehow drafts seem to cause errors about once every 25 drafts.

The only problem was when I wanted to install the game, though that ended up as a no problem.

JeeberD · 05-27-2003, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bee
I'd email Jim and ask him.

Before anyone asks...

[email protected]

Fritz · 05-27-2003, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeeberD
Before anyone asks...

[email protected]

and the help line

1-976-hot-jimg

MrP · 05-30-2003, 03:01 AM

Got two replies on this topic, one from solecismic and one from elicense support.

solecismic - seem to think it's something to do with the wrapper ea put on the game but that there's a resolution out there for it but don't know what it is.

elicense - one liner saying the game doesn't work under NT.

Who to believe...hmmmm. My money's on solecismic but I'm kinda stuck again.

Cheers

Ian

MIJB#19 · 06-01-2003, 02:11 PM

LOL.

The game works under NT4, I've been playing FOF2 on an NT machine for 3 years!

cartman · 06-01-2003, 02:41 PM

The "Failed to create and empty document" is a fairly common Windows NT 4.0 error, and not directly tied to FOF. What has happened is that you have descended into DLL hell. There is a DLL or OCX file that FOF uses that has been replaced/downgraded/changed by another piece of software. You might try an uninstall/reinstall to see if that helps. Another thing to try is to put the directory where you installed FOF at the front of your PATH environment variable.

Good luck!

05-27-2003, 07:49 AM	#3
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05-27-2003, 08:14 AM	#9
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	Skydog..and suddently you look stupid. If you don't "have the time" then don't write this whole scenario...for bullshit since you see it is not me. (btw, to answer your point #2 and #5 : I indeed replied quickly to it when I saw this tread was about FOF2. Always try to when it is FOF2 related) __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history. Last edited by Darkiller : 05-27-2003 at 08:16 AM.

05-27-2003, 08:42 AM	#11
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	well then take some valuable time to make full researches. I invite you to do so. What else can I say : I swore it is not me nor someone I put to it. I can't do more than invite you to make a complete research to "prove my innocence" (man o man) __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

05-27-2003, 08:48 AM	#12
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	stop this now __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

05-27-2003, 09:48 AM	#18
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	I think MIJB#19 had this problem too, as he had NT on some machine and couldn't play FOF2 on it. They just don't mix. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC! Last edited by 3ric : 05-27-2003 at 09:49 AM.

05-27-2003, 07:48 AM	#2
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	Hi MrP, guess what, it is supposed to be the place to ask for FOF... (memo to Skydog : see, MrP comes here, he is new..and has no idea if he can ask a FOF related question on this board !!! don't you thing there's something wrong here ???) I'm a FOF2 player and I'd love to help on this but I have never tested it on NT so can't answer. Anyway, you're right, this is the place to ask this. Hopefully someone will come with an answer, if not, bump this thread up from time to time until someone answers. __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

05-27-2003, 07:52 AM	#5
Darkiller FOF2 Guy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Paris, France	?????????????????? I SWARE I DIDN'T WRITE THIS ! __________________ FOF2 lives on / Continue to support the best game ever ! - Owner of the San Francisco 49ers in FOF2 - Charter member of the IHOF and owner of the Paris Musketeers franchise (FOF2004) - Chairman of the IHOF Hall of Fame - Athletic Director of the Brigham Young Cougars in TCY FOF Legend: Hall of Fame QB Brock Sheriff #5, one of the most popular player in Front Office Football history.

05-27-2003, 07:54 AM	#6
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	If the error is cannot create document its possible that the problem is purely admin related - are you running as a user with Administrator priviledges? (if not then try giving that a whirl)

05-27-2003, 08:05 AM	#8
MrP n00b Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sunny Aberdeen, Scotland	Thanks for the replies chaps - rest assured I am not Darkiller, nor have I ever been. in reply, yep, I'm running with full Administrator priviliges (not that I know what to do with them), the directory and all the files have full access open. The reason I hesitated to ask here is that some boards are kinda twitchy if you put a foot in the wrong place..... Cheers Ian

05-27-2003, 08:51 AM	#13
MrP n00b Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sunny Aberdeen, Scotland	Erm, guys, would you like to take your little pissing contest somewhere else. All I want is to find out whether FOF works/doesn't work/can be made to work under NT so I can play the bloody thing at lunchtimes at work. I have no desire to be caught in a crossfire between two people with a "issue" with each other, and even less desire to know what it's about. And you wonder why I hesitate to post to boards like this when all I want is an answer to a simple question........ Cheers Ian

05-27-2003, 08:56 AM	#14
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Seriously, this fourm is titled Front Office Football Central, General Discussion. Why would you ask if it's the right place to ask the question? Just wondering if the people around here are that intimidating. Todd

05-27-2003, 09:24 AM	#15
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	*my most intimidating glare*

05-27-2003, 09:42 AM	#16
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I'm not Mr. Pee. Cheers Mr. Bee

05-27-2003, 09:47 AM	#17
MrP n00b Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sunny Aberdeen, Scotland	I'm intimidated by you guys. Honest. I am. By asking the question, I had hoped to avoid all the replies saying "Are you f***ing stupid, EVERYONE knows the place for those questions is over in blahblablah forum" Well, I avoided it, only to be caught in someone's personal flame war. Oh well, it's asbestos pants time again. Cheers A flameproof Ian

05-27-2003, 09:53 AM	#19
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	FWIW, fof4 works fine on NT4 Sp6 __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

05-27-2003, 10:13 AM	#20
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I'd email Jim and ask him.

05-27-2003, 11:41 AM	#21
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	3ric, FOF2 is working pretty well on NT4. So did the TCY demos. FOF4 demo? never tested that.

05-27-2003, 11:45 AM	#23
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Dola (MrP, dola is a word only used at this forum and the place where they call this forum "overthere".) Though FOF2 works excellent, I do save my games before draft days, somehow drafts seem to cause errors about once every 25 drafts. The only problem was when I wanted to install the game, though that ended up as a no problem.

05-30-2003, 03:01 AM	#26
MrP n00b Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sunny Aberdeen, Scotland	Got two replies on this topic, one from solecismic and one from elicense support. solecismic - seem to think it's something to do with the wrapper ea put on the game but that there's a resolution out there for it but don't know what it is. elicense - one liner saying the game doesn't work under NT. Who to believe...hmmmm. My money's on solecismic but I'm kinda stuck again. Cheers Ian

06-01-2003, 02:11 PM	#27
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	LOL. The game works under NT4, I've been playing FOF2 on an NT machine for 3 years!

06-01-2003, 02:41 PM	#28
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	The "Failed to create and empty document" is a fairly common Windows NT 4.0 error, and not directly tied to FOF. What has happened is that you have descended into DLL hell. There is a DLL or OCX file that FOF uses that has been replaced/downgraded/changed by another piece of software. You might try an uninstall/reinstall to see if that helps. Another thing to try is to put the directory where you installed FOF at the front of your PATH environment variable. Good luck! __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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