Watch Out NL Central!

Neuqua · 06-20-2003, 01:59 AM

Cubs trade IF Mark Bellhorn and prospect Travis Anderson to Colorado for IF Jose Hernandez.

Yes, Jose Hernandez.

Shoot me.

QuikSand · 06-20-2003, 06:08 AM

Can you feel the breeze already?

tucker342 · 06-20-2003, 07:18 AM

wow, you sound excited!

jerem77 · 06-20-2003, 07:24 AM

A former cubbie returns home [wiping tear from eye]

scooper · 06-20-2003, 07:25 AM

I thought this was going to be a thread about the Reds.

Don't mess with them.

cuervo72 · 06-20-2003, 07:39 AM

I like the Cubs' thinking. Bat Hernandez before Sosa, so he gets the wind blowing out with his three whiffs. That should give Sosa those extra couple of feet he needs to go yard. And it's completely legal!

Craptacular · 06-20-2003, 09:32 AM

Remember this clown was one of the Brewers' big acquisitions in the last few years, along with such immortals as Jeffrey Hammonds and Glendon Rusch.

Coffee Warlord · 06-20-2003, 09:42 AM

The Cubs fans have seen Jose Hernandex play, when he was younger.

Lets hope he aged realllllllllllllllllllllly well, is all I gotta say.

cincyreds · 06-20-2003, 10:38 AM

The K Zone has just entered the building...

The only guy who can hit .300 and strikeout a ton!

I don't understand this trade at all.

On the other hand, Bellhorn has some good pop in his bat, so this may be the time to pick him up in fantasy leagues.

Bellhorn's value has increased with this trade.

ShagVT · 06-20-2003, 11:04 AM

Wow. I suppose the Cubs figured that they weren't getting enough strike outs from Gonzo and Sosa?

Jose isn't a bad player, and Bellhorn was kind of a flash in the pan, so I can't complain too much, but I wish the Cubs would get serious about getting a regular third baseman. It's been what - 30 years since Santo retired?

How do you go 30 years without ever having the same starter three years in a row at third base?

TroyF · 06-20-2003, 11:34 AM

QS,

I think the temperature just went up about 5 degrees in Colorado.

TroyF

Cuckoo · 06-20-2003, 01:14 PM

Here I go again, being the eternal optimist. Well, I suppose it's a condition of most Cubs fans.

I see this trade in a couple of ways. First of all, it's a nice change of scenery for both players who had been struggling. Bellhorn won't play everyday in Colorado either so I wouldn't recommend picking him up in a bunch of fantasy leagues. His value really doesn't go up too much, I'd say. Hernandez, on the other hand, goes to a team in contention who could use a little pop. At this point, he'll play everyday, something he wasn't doing in Colorado, and I suspect his fantasy value will actually increase.

Second, it's a bargaining chip for the Cubs. It was clear to anyone with a brain that they are lusting after Mike Lowell. Florida knew that as well and felt they could get the Cubs to overpay. Now, the Cubs can at least say that they've moved Bellhorn and brought in a former All-Star. It may not help them much in the bargaining with Florida, but I suspect it can't hurt.

And third, this really doesn't hurt the Cubs at all. They'll still go for Lowell, and if they get him, Hernandez will move to bench duty. He's a powerful right-hander who can play several positions much better than Bellhorn. With Karros playing a lot of first because of Choi's injury, they really needed some bench pop. This is all not to mention the fact that strikeouts and all, Hernandez is a player who's been around and has been to the postseason. Bellhorn sure wasn't giving them anything.

So, overall, if some idiot is up there in the Cubs front office thinking to himself, "Now this is what we need to put us over the top," then I may no longer be a Cubs fan. But, if you take this trade for what it is, it certainly can't hurt.

Franklinnoble · 06-20-2003, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Craptacular
Remember this clown was one of the Brewers' big acquisitions in the last few years, along with such immortals as Jeffrey Hammonds and Glendon Rusch.

What ever happened to Jeffrey Hammonds? I remember when the Orioles first brought him up, and he seemed to have all kinds of potential...

JeeberD · 06-20-2003, 01:51 PM

I'm going to see the Astros play the Rangers tonight!!! That's just what we need to turn around our less than stellar play the past week. Astros WILL win the NL Central, and this is where we turn on our afterburners...

Go 'Stros!!!!

GoldenEagle · 06-20-2003, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeeberD
I'm going to see the Astros play the Rangers tonight!!! That's just what we need to turn around our less than stellar play the past week. Astros WILL win the NL Central, and this is where we turn on our afterburners...

Go 'Stros!!!!

Great...another Stros fan.

My girlfriend is a Stros fan and she is always blabbing about how good they are. Makes me sick.

JeeberD · 06-20-2003, 02:07 PM

I heart GoldenEagle's girlfriend...

Craptacular · 06-20-2003, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Franklinnoble
What ever happened to Jeffrey Hammonds? I remember when the Orioles first brought him up, and he seemed to have all kinds of potential...

He had one good year ... in Colorado. So, the Brewers decided he would be a lifesaver and signed him to a fat contract, despite his history of injury problems. In the last 2+ years, he missed more than half of the games due to injury (played in 187 of 380), and batted .248 with a whopping 16 HRs and 65 RBI. The Brewers released him a couple of weeks ago when he came back from his latest injury.

sterlingice · 06-20-2003, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cuervo72
I like the Cubs' thinking. Bat Hernandez before Sosa, so he gets the wind blowing out with his three whiffs. That should give Sosa those extra couple of feet he needs to go yard. And it's completely legal!

SI

Cuckoo · 06-20-2003, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeeberD
I heart GoldenEagle's girlfriend...

Look out GoldenEagle, Jeeber's moving in on her. I see a Kyle Farnsworth-like take down of an Astros fan coming.

JeeberD · 06-20-2003, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cuckoo
Look out GoldenEagle, Jeeber's moving in on her. I see a Kyle Farnsworth-like take down of an Astros fan coming.

Yeah, my girlfriend would kick my ass...

GoldenEagle · 06-20-2003, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeeberD
Yeah, my girlfriend would kick my ass...

So would I

06-20-2003, 07:39 AM	#6
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I like the Cubs' thinking. Bat Hernandez before Sosa, so he gets the wind blowing out with his three whiffs. That should give Sosa those extra couple of feet he needs to go yard. And it's completely legal! __________________ null

06-20-2003, 10:38 AM	#9
cincyreds High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mississippi	The K Zone has just entered the building... The only guy who can hit .300 and strikeout a ton! I don't understand this trade at all. On the other hand, Bellhorn has some good pop in his bat, so this may be the time to pick him up in fantasy leagues. Bellhorn's value has increased with this trade. __________________ The Dallas Cowboys!! America's Team will rise again.

06-20-2003, 01:51 PM	#14
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I'm going to see the Astros play the Rangers tonight!!! That's just what we need to turn around our less than stellar play the past week. Astros WILL win the NL Central, and this is where we turn on our afterburners... Go 'Stros!!!! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

06-20-2003, 02:07 PM	#16
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I heart GoldenEagle's girlfriend... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

06-20-2003, 06:08 AM	#2
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Can you feel the breeze already?

06-20-2003, 07:18 AM	#3
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	wow, you sound excited!

06-20-2003, 07:24 AM	#4
jerem77 Mascot Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Collegeville, MN	A former cubbie returns home [wiping tear from eye]

06-20-2003, 07:25 AM	#5
scooper College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cinn City	I thought this was going to be a thread about the Reds. Don't mess with them.

06-20-2003, 09:32 AM	#7
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	Remember this clown was one of the Brewers' big acquisitions in the last few years, along with such immortals as Jeffrey Hammonds and Glendon Rusch.

06-20-2003, 09:42 AM	#8
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	The Cubs fans have seen Jose Hernandex play, when he was younger. Lets hope he aged realllllllllllllllllllllly well, is all I gotta say.

06-20-2003, 11:04 AM	#10
ShagVT H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Charlotte, NC	Wow. I suppose the Cubs figured that they weren't getting enough strike outs from Gonzo and Sosa? Jose isn't a bad player, and Bellhorn was kind of a flash in the pan, so I can't complain too much, but I wish the Cubs would get serious about getting a regular third baseman. It's been what - 30 years since Santo retired? How do you go 30 years without ever having the same starter three years in a row at third base?

06-20-2003, 11:34 AM	#11
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	QS, I think the temperature just went up about 5 degrees in Colorado. TroyF

06-20-2003, 01:14 PM	#12
Cuckoo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmond, OK	Here I go again, being the eternal optimist. Well, I suppose it's a condition of most Cubs fans. I see this trade in a couple of ways. First of all, it's a nice change of scenery for both players who had been struggling. Bellhorn won't play everyday in Colorado either so I wouldn't recommend picking him up in a bunch of fantasy leagues. His value really doesn't go up too much, I'd say. Hernandez, on the other hand, goes to a team in contention who could use a little pop. At this point, he'll play everyday, something he wasn't doing in Colorado, and I suspect his fantasy value will actually increase. Second, it's a bargaining chip for the Cubs. It was clear to anyone with a brain that they are lusting after Mike Lowell. Florida knew that as well and felt they could get the Cubs to overpay. Now, the Cubs can at least say that they've moved Bellhorn and brought in a former All-Star. It may not help them much in the bargaining with Florida, but I suspect it can't hurt. And third, this really doesn't hurt the Cubs at all. They'll still go for Lowell, and if they get him, Hernandez will move to bench duty. He's a powerful right-hander who can play several positions much better than Bellhorn. With Karros playing a lot of first because of Choi's injury, they really needed some bench pop. This is all not to mention the fact that strikeouts and all, Hernandez is a player who's been around and has been to the postseason. Bellhorn sure wasn't giving them anything. So, overall, if some idiot is up there in the Cubs front office thinking to himself, "Now this is what we need to put us over the top," then I may no longer be a Cubs fan. But, if you take this trade for what it is, it certainly can't hurt.

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