Secondlife

[gottimd]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

i'd even go so far as to not "hxxp" NSFW links.

You wouldn't....would you?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

i want a game that simulates a world without order.

So basically Front Office France 2k5?

[albionmoonlight]

Let's think this through a little bit. If this is a MMORPG where the hook is that you get to be a total bad-ass and mess with people, with whom would you mess?

Dropping rocks on cars is fun, but not if everyone on the game is standing on a bridge with a rock and no one is driving. Who would choose to play the defensless neighbor that people kick in the nuts on a regular basis?

Wouldn't the game just devolve into people walking around trying to stab and shoot each other? There would be no order against which to react. Being anti-social is only fun if there is a social to anti.

[gottimd]

I bet you this idea has been thought of and actually put into design stage, but the sad thing is, is that the game would probably be blamed for so many murders/deaths/acts of violence. They should make the game with tons of disclaimers.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Who would choose to play the defensless neighbor that people kick in the nuts on a regular basis?

NPC's.

[rkmsuf]

anything that involves kicking someone, anyone, in the nuts is a winner

[gottimd]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Let's think this through a little bit. If this is a MMORPG where the hook is that you get to be a total bad-ass and mess with people, with whom would you mess?

Well the universe would have simulated characters as well, that go about their daily life that the computer controls and as they die, they are replenished as well. And each has their own temper/morals/violence threshold as well. That way, if you continously attack/murder/rape/grope innocent bystanders, you may get to a simulated character that was like the Michael Douglas character in that movie I am drawing a blank on the title now.

[albionmoonlight]

Ah, I didn't realize that there were non-human characters in these games.

[JeeberD]

Originally Posted by gottimd

Well the universe would have simulated characters as well, that go about their daily life that the computer controls and as they die, they are replenished as well. And each has their own temper/morals/violence threshold as well. That way, if you continously attack/murder/rape/grope innocent bystanders, you may get to a simulated character that was like the Michael Douglas character in that movie I am drawing a blank on the title now.

[gottimd]

Thanks Jeeber!

That way you can't get your jollies all the time on the sim characters. Sometimes they will fight back and maybe even kill you randomly.

[Raiders Army]

Falling Down is an awesome movie.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Let's think this through a little bit. If this is a MMORPG where the hook is that you get to be a total bad-ass and mess with people, with whom would you mess?

Dropping rocks on cars is fun, but not if everyone on the game is standing on a bridge with a rock and no one is driving. Who would choose to play the defensless neighbor that people kick in the nuts on a regular basis?

Wouldn't the game just devolve into people walking around trying to stab and shoot each other? There would be no order against which to react. Being anti-social is only fun if there is a social to anti.

you would get the benefits of being a law abiding citizen. you stay out of jail you get a good job, a good salary to afford the nicer things in life. Stay in school, graduate your avatar unlocks "creativity" bonuses, like being able to customize your appearance so you look like Johnny Good Guy. you get to own property. you get to walk into stores and not be escorted out. you could fly on airplanes to travel aroun the sim world because you wouldn't be on a list.

HardcoreSecondLife (nice name, albion) just has an avenue for people who want to operate outside of those benefits. your character wouldn't ever be able to have a job, make money legally. perhaps the only way that an anti-social person could be reindoctrinated back into society would be to do "good citizen quests". go to a "good citizen NPC" and get your good citizen meter back up. everytime you do something good you unlock more and more of the things that the good citizens have. in order to keep certain objects you have to maintain a certain level of "goodness" on your good citizen meter. once you start doing bad things your meter goes down: you wouldn't want to be wanted by the police because you couldn't ever walk into the bank to get your money, you'd be spotted. so then you'd be forced to keep your money on you at all times and you run the risk of being jacked by other anti-socials.

those are just some ideas. i want to play HardcoreSecondLife now.

[Pumpy Tudors]

If you pretty much keep to your own area of the "world" in Second Life, you probably won't get banned. The thing is that you'll need other people to be the "targets" of your actions, and that's where things get sticky.

[JeeberD]

So then we all need to sign up so that we can kick the shit out of each other, right?

[Anthony]

i think Pumpy was really into Secondlife and got banned when he digitally started posting too many pics of himself and annoyed one of the "uber nerd groups".

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

i think Pumpy was really into Secondlife and got banned when he digitally started posting too many pics of himself and annoyed one of the "uber nerd groups".

And they are still after him since he's reluctant to say to much about the whole thing.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Darn. You guys got me.

[gottimd]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

i think Pumpy was really into Secondlife and got banned when he digitally started posting too many pics of himself and annoyed one of the "uber nerd groups".

They found out where he lived and that is why he moved to PA.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by gottimd

They found out where he lived and that is why he moved to PA.

their uber nerd powers extend even into the real world.

[Huckleberry]

I agree with HA on the other options. You could also set up the role/job of police officer to be available to human players. Arresting and sending to trial those engaged in criminal behavior could lead to higher pay, promotions, bonuses, etc.

Because nobody would want to waste time on a jury, those would be computer players. But there are probably people out there diseased enough to want to be attorneys. Or instead of a jury it could be open to a vote. 12 random players "living" in the area are required to vote and are sent a summary of the trial information.

There are ways around it. I would lean to staying clean in such a game. The organized crime elements would be huge, though. New players that want to take a risk for connections and quick buck would be doing the illegal grunt work.

[gottimd]

This game has so much potential.

So could you choose to be a professional athlete as well? I for one would want to be in the criminal atmosphere, and hanging out with the CHUDS.

[Anthony]

awesome idea about being police. i hadn't thought of that and actually would consider going over to the Good Side to be able to be a bounty hunter.

everyone loves bounty hunters.

my friend and i had sketched a B movie together (that we may or may not make one day) and the big climatic line in the movie would be "Oh My God - Troy is an intergalactic bounty hunter?!?". oh man...we had so much fun using our "we're making a B movie and wanted to know if you girls would be in the movie" routine in bars. you wouldn't believe how many numbers we got this one time, it was like casting a net into the sea and pulling out many fish. we were gonna have a dog named Foamie who, you guessed it - foamed at the mouth - in the movie. i have to nudge him and complete this project.

[albionmoonlight]

You could also commit crimes and frame your enemies for them.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

You could also commit crimes and frame your enemies for them.

my nipples have hardened at the thought of this dastardly action. you see, you have a little bit of rule breakin' anti-socialness in you too.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

everyone loves bounty hunters.

[Anthony]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/biztech....ap/index.html

[SirFozzie]

this is like putting napalm putty in the hands of kids.. but also check out sociolotron. NOT gonna link it.. it's a MMORPG game that's NSFW

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

this is like putting napalm putty in the hands of kids.. but also check out sociolotron. NOT gonna link it.. it's a MMORPG game that's NSFW

THIS GAME SOUNDS AWESOME!!!1! excellent.

[Anthony]

"This game contains violence, sex, politically incorrect behavior, blasphemy, and lots of other things which are not acceptable to many people. This game allows you to bring out your darker side, but it also allows the same for other players! So don't play if you are offended by any of these issues, don't play if you can't swallow what you dish out yourself, don't play if you are one of the people who yell "grief" and "banning" every time someone steals your belongings after a KO."

i have found my home.

[Airhog]

I would play that if it didnt cost 9bucks a month

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Airhog

I would play that if it didnt cost 9bucks a month

yeah. wish it was free. i'm actually a bit scared as to what goes on in this game. i'm thinking they got some disturbed people mutilating digital pets and shit. people are weird like that.

[gottimd]

So would I. Check out these features:

Features List

• Focus on role play. Our staff of volunteers encourages RP and resolves disputes between players by judging their role play among other things
  
  
• Realistic map of London and the Underground System
  
  
• Perma death system that allows a character to be eliminated from the world
  
  
• Graveyards to memorialize the dead
  
  
• Three stage character hierarchy system that allows players to decide whether they want to play a protected character or take the full risk of perma death
  
  
• Character Skill development based on Experience Points earned from various professions
  
  
• Economy system that allows characters to harvest raw materials, produce goods and distribute them.
  
  
• Player owned houses from single room apartments to big mansions
  
  
• Player run bars where player can employ other player characters to work as bartender, stripper, life show performer or show fighter
  
  
• Contagious diseases, illnesses and a health system with drug creation, doctors and the risk of mistreatment
  
  
• Social ranking system that allows characters to climb on the social ladder or become an underground celebrity
  
  
• Player run government in each of the 20 districts of London, support for public elections
  
  
• Justice system where characters can be brought to court for crimes and judged by elected judges and jurors
  
  
• Investigation system that allows players to to investigate crimes to bring the criminals to justice
  
  
• Players can run their own newspapers and blackmail government officials or other society members based on rumors about them
  
  
• Complete cult system that allows players to master one of two different cults and cast magic spells
  
  
• Cults are based on blood magic or sexual practices
  
  
• Complete underworld. Dead characters can become demons and go to hell after their death
  
  
• Demons can be summoned to London to serve their summoner. They can break free and roam London in disguise as Vampires or Succubae
  
  
• Players can form sects and worship demons in exchange for favors
  
  
• Characters can have children who take over the characters good in London when the character dies
  
  
• Complete Sex system that allows players to have Cyber Sex with various postures
  
  
• Sexual urges that develop according to a characters sexual preferences and influence his behavior later on
  
  
• Support for bondage, chains and more
  
  
• A multi level BDSM system that allows for complete role play of dominant or submissive characters, ownership and sexual slavery
  
  
• Plastic surgery system that allows the description of a character to be altered over time to correct natural alteration from childbirth, lactation or sexual torture
  
  
• SMS message can be sent to your cellphone or text pager for certain game events when you are offline
  

[Anthony]

Plastic surgery system that allows the description of a character to be altered over time to correct natural alteration from childbirth, lactation or sexual torture

jeezus christ...i'm scared. this game is hardcore.

[SirFozzie]

Yeah.. that's why I said this is giving Napalm to kids.. the game is ADMITTEDLY hardcore, but you can decide how deep you want to go in.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Yeah.. that's why I said this is giving Napalm to kids.. the game is ADMITTEDLY hardcore, but you can decide how deep you want to go in.

so how deep have you gone in?

[SirFozzie]

Somehow I missed this... well.. not too deep.. not into any of the BDSM things, but my character is in a gang, and is a full fledged PC.. recently got sentenced to jail for assault..

[Anthony]

i swear, this thread is one of my all-time FOFC favorites.

[Airhog]

if this game didnt cost money to play, I would definately join it

[Anthony]

apparently that new MMORPG game APB has stolen my idea.