Steroid dealer "Suicide"

M GO BLUE!!! · 06-06-2008, 02:47 PM

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A convicted steroids dealer who claimed to have sold drugs to pro football players killed himself, the Dallas County medical examiner said Friday.

The medical examiner said Jacobs suffered a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the abdomen and the head. The final report is expected in the next 48 hours.

When explaining why he did not want to go public, Jacobs said: "The kinds of people I know about could put a bullet in the back of my head."

"I spoke with David through a text message about three or four days ago, and he said he was fine," Jacobs (father) told The Times. "He has been trying to rebuild his life. He got crossed with some bad things and made some bad choices. At this point, I am just beside myself."

So he kills himself by first shooting himself in one of the most painful places to be shot? I don't buy it...

Fidatelo · 06-06-2008, 02:49 PM

I thought last night it was being reported as murder?

molson · 06-06-2008, 03:03 PM

The medical examiner has the same info as we do, plus the body, plus medical expertise. I don't see how we would doubt him.

Fidatelo · 06-06-2008, 03:09 PM

I'm sure no one has ever influenced a medical examiner before.

Radii · 06-06-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

The medical examiner has the same info as we do, plus the body, plus medical expertise. I don't see how we would doubt him.

+1

Fighter of Foo · 06-06-2008, 03:58 PM

http://www.reason.com/news/show/122458.html

"During the last two decades, there have been more than a dozen high-profile cases in which dubious forensic witnesses conned state and federal courts, sometimes for many years and in hundreds of cases. The most famous example is probably the West Virginia crime lab worker Fred Zain, who from 1979 to 1989 tainted so many trials with false testimony about blood, semen, and hair evidence that the state’s Supreme Court ordered a review of every case in which he’d ever testified. It turned out he had introduced deliberately falsified evidence in at least 134 cases."

NOT saying there's anything sketchy going on in this case.

M GO BLUE!!! · 06-06-2008, 04:10 PM

I was thinking more along the lines of staging a suicide.

JonInMiddleGA · 06-06-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I'm sure no one has ever influenced a medical examiner before.

+1

JeeberD · 06-06-2008, 04:50 PM

You don't cross Troy Aikman...

molson · 06-06-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I'm sure no one has ever influenced a medical examiner before.

I guess, but it's way more likely, in a given case, that the medical examiner isn't risking prison by being influenced into fraudulent medical opinions.

I just think that it's odd that everybody knows "what really happened" from a 3 paragraph news article. (Not so much on this board as elsewhere).

If it's a murder made to look like a suicide, why shoot him twice? If you're a crooked doctor, why do you take a case like this for your payout where everyone will assume you're crooked?

Doug5984 · 06-06-2008, 05:38 PM

A friend was telling me about this- and while it is hard to believe the 2 shots, I have heard of it before in what was a real suicide... Semi automatic pistol, first shot in the head, 2nd shot comes as the body is going down (gun already off of safety, and finger on the trigger) it goes off again.

Now, seems very strange in this case- but it does happen...

Zelig · 06-06-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

The medical examiner has the same info as we do, plus the body, plus medical expertise. I don't see how we would doubt him.

This was not a boating accident!

Bad-example · 06-06-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

So he kills himself by first shooting himself in one of the most painful places to be shot? I don't buy it...

It hurts more to get shot in Dallas?

06-06-2008, 02:49 PM	#2
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I thought last night it was being reported as murder? __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

06-06-2008, 03:09 PM	#4
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I'm sure no one has ever influenced a medical examiner before. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

06-06-2008, 03:58 PM	#6
Fighter of Foo College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston, MA	http://www.reason.com/news/show/122458.html "During the last two decades, there have been more than a dozen high-profile cases in which dubious forensic witnesses conned state and federal courts, sometimes for many years and in hundreds of cases. The most famous example is probably the West Virginia crime lab worker Fred Zain, who from 1979 to 1989 tainted so many trials with false testimony about blood, semen, and hair evidence that the state’s Supreme Court ordered a review of every case in which he’d ever testified. It turned out he had introduced deliberately falsified evidence in at least 134 cases." NOT saying there's anything sketchy going on in this case. Last edited by Fighter of Foo : 06-06-2008 at 03:59 PM.

06-06-2008, 04:50 PM	#9
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	You don't cross Troy Aikman... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

06-06-2008, 03:03 PM	#3
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	The medical examiner has the same info as we do, plus the body, plus medical expertise. I don't see how we would doubt him.

06-06-2008, 04:10 PM	#7
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	I was thinking more along the lines of staging a suicide.

06-06-2008, 05:38 PM	#11
Doug5984 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisiana	A friend was telling me about this- and while it is hard to believe the 2 shots, I have heard of it before in what was a real suicide... Semi automatic pistol, first shot in the head, 2nd shot comes as the body is going down (gun already off of safety, and finger on the trigger) it goes off again. Now, seems very strange in this case- but it does happen...

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