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Ben E Lou · 07-04-2008, 07:23 AM

Something happened in the conversion that's causing posts with tables to become blank. Is there a setting somewhere that possibly changed this? I have forums set to allow HTML. Li'l help?

Ben E Lou · 07-04-2008, 07:24 AM

Dola: It's not happening for very small tables, but it is for larger ones. For example, this works...

TEAM NAME	NICKNAME	CITY
Baltimore	Blue Claws	Baltimore
Massachusetts	Pilgrims	Boston
New York	Enforcers	New York
Philadelphia	Freedom	Philadelphia
Toronto	Fire	Toronto
Washington	Federals	Washington

Charlotte	Cougars	Charlotte
Georgia	Rattlesnakes	Atlanta
Havana	Pirates	Havana
Lowcountry	Gators	Charleston, SC
Nashville	Hawks	Nashville
Orlando	Seminoles	Orlando


Dallas	Oil Kings	Dallas
Houston	Lone Stars	Houston
Louisiana	Crawfish	New Orleans
Mexico City	Aztecs	Mexico City
Oklahoma	Tornado	Oklahoma City
Phoenix	Apaches	Phoenix

Los Angeles	Whales	Los Angeles
Oakland	Black Knights	Oakland
San Diego	Sunshine	San Diego
San Francisco	Gold Rush	San Francisco
Seattle	Steelheads	Seattle
Vancouver	Lumberjacks	Vancouver

bronco92 · 07-04-2008, 11:06 AM

I can get this fixed. Is there an example on here of a blank table that I can see?

Ben E Lou · 07-04-2008, 11:09 AM

Ben E Lou · 07-04-2008, 11:10 AM

There ya go. The post above has text and a table. The table is gone, though.

DanGarion · 07-04-2008, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

There ya go. The post above has text and a table. The table is gone, though.

I don't see anything....

DanGarion · 07-04-2008, 04:15 PM

That's weird it's stripping it out, because even if I try to quote the blank one it's not even showing in the quote before I post...

gstelmack · 07-04-2008, 04:16 PM

When this happens, you see nothing in the preview, either. Whatever goes from the WYSIWYG editor to an actual HTML post just drops the table.

Barkeep49 · 07-07-2008, 10:10 AM

It's not just with tables. I tried to post a very long post, with lots of VB formatting and it blanked it out after a certain amount. I ended up having to split the post into two posts in order to get it to work.

Ksyrup · 07-07-2008, 10:14 AM

Not sure if this is related, but I'm seeing nothing but a blank ad at the top of the page this morning. I say screw the tables.

Ben E Lou · 07-07-2008, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

It's not just with tables. I tried to post a very long post, with lots of VB formatting and it blanked it out after a certain amount. I ended up having to split the post into two posts in order to get it to work.

That's really strange. I just double-checked: max post length is disabled. We don't have a max post length here, and haven't in years.

Ben E Lou · 07-07-2008, 11:27 AM

EASTERN CIRCUIT

Northeastern Division		Stadium	Ovl Park Factor
Baltimore	Blue Claws	Ripken Field	0.937
Massachusetts	Pilgrims	Boston Field	0.967
New York	Enforcers	The Gotham Dome	1.015
Philadelphia	Freedom	Liberty Stadium	0.964
Toronto	Fire	Ontario Colosseum	0.995
Washington	Federals	National Stadium	1.017
Pittsburgh	Coal Miners

Southeastern Division
Charlotte	Cougars	Ballpark Of Carolina	1.106
Georgia	Rattlesnakes	MLK Memorial Stadium	0.977
Havana	Pirates	Castro Field	1.004
Lowcountry	Gators	Ravenel Stadium	0.989
Nashville	Hawks	Hawk Field	0.984
Orlando	Seminoles	Disney Park	1.04
Columbus	Mudcats


WESTERN CIRCUIT

Coastal Division
Los Angeles	Whales	LA County Stadium	1.058
Oakland	Black Knights	Oakland Park	1.012
San Diego	Sunshine	Sunshine Field	1.017
San Francisco	Gold Rush	The Gold Dome	1.046
Seattle	Steelheads	Gates Stadium	1.049
Vancouver	Lumberjacks	Lumberjack Field	0.961


Southwestern Division
Dallas	Oil Kings	Jock Ewing Stadium	1.019
Houston	Lone Stars	Lone Star Ballpark	0.964
Louisiana	Crawfish	The Crawfish Bowl	0.982
Mexico City	Aztecs	Aztec Stadium	0.984
Oklahoma City	Tornado	Tornado Alley	0.997
Phoenix	Apaches	The Hunting Grounds	0.967

Ben E Lou · 07-07-2008, 11:38 AM

EASTERN CIRCUIT

*Northeastern Division*		Stadium	Ovl Park Factor
Baltimore	Blue Claws	Ripken Field	0.937
Massachusetts	Pilgrims	Boston Field	0.967
New York	Enforcers	The Gotham Dome	1.015
Philadelphia	Freedom	Liberty Stadium	0.964
Toronto	Fire	Ontario Colosseum	0.995
Washington	Federals	National Stadium	1.017
Pittsburgh	Coal Miners

*Southeastern Division*
Charlotte	Cougars	Ballpark Of Carolina	1.106
Georgia	Rattlesnakes	MLK Memorial Stadium	0.977
Havana	Pirates	Castro Field	1.004
Lowcountry	Gators	Ravenel Stadium	0.989
Nashville	Hawks	Hawk Field	0.984
Orlando	Seminoles	Disney Park	1.040
Columbus	Mudcats


WESTERN CIRCUIT

*Coastal Division*
Los Angeles	Whales	LA County Stadium	1.058
Oakland	Black Knights	Oakland Park	1.012
San Diego	Sunshine	Sunshine Field	1.017
San Francisco	Gold Rush	The Gold Dome	1.046
Seattle	Steelheads	Gates Stadium	1.049
Vancouver	Lumberjacks	Lumberjack Field	0.961


*Southwestern Division*
Dallas	Oil Kings	Jock Ewing Stadium	1.019
Houston	Lone Stars	Lone Star Ballpark	0.964
Louisiana	Crawfish	The Crawfish Bowl	0.982
Mexico City	Aztecs	Aztec Stadium	0.984
Oklahoma City	Tornado	Tornado Alley	0.997
Phoenix	Apaches	The Hunting Grounds	0.967

Ben E Lou · 07-07-2008, 11:39 AM

Fixed?

gstelmack · 07-07-2008, 11:45 AM

Nope. Just tried one of my Excel Tables. 39 rows from a ChangeTracker 2 report, no dice.

Ben E Lou · 07-07-2008, 11:53 AM

My post was from Open Office (which is what I always use). Trying Excel 2003 now....

Ben E Lou · 07-07-2008, 11:53 AM

Ben E Lou · 07-07-2008, 11:53 AM

No dice.

Barkeep49 · 07-07-2008, 12:32 PM

I'm wondering if it isn't a post length but amount of data in a post, which is causing it? In this way my very long post, chock full of formatting, is triggering the same problem as a large table?

Fidatelo · 07-07-2008, 01:15 PM

I don't know thing one about VBulletin, but is there anything different about the database now? Perhaps the field length has been reduced there?

Ben E Lou · 07-07-2008, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm wondering if it isn't a post length but amount of data in a post, which is causing it? In this way my very long post, chock full of formatting, is triggering the same problem as a large table?

Well, post length = number of characters. Formatting characters count in that too. And regardless, it's set to no limit:

Maximum Characters Per Post

Posts that contain more characters than the value specified here will be rejected with a message telling the user to shorten their post.

Set the value to 0 to disable this function.

Bronco92 and I have been communicating. Nothing was touched intentionally that should have caused this. hmmmm....

Fidatelo · 07-07-2008, 01:21 PM

By change at the DB level I should clarify that maybe the field where post data is stored has changed data type to something like a varchar(XXX) where XXX is a set limit?

Ben E Lou · 07-07-2008, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I don't know thing one about VBulletin, but is there anything different about the database now? Perhaps the field length has been reduced there?

Not sure on that.

Anyway, we're going to do something that's long overdue anyway and hope it "fixes itself" in the process: upgrade to the latest version of vbulletin. As a part of that upgrade, we're going to lose the existing skins. I'm bumping that thread now.

DanGarion · 07-07-2008, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Not sure on that.

Anyway, we're going to do something that's long overdue anyway and hope it "fixes itself" in the process: upgrade to the latest version of vbulletin. As a part of that upgrade, we're going to lose the existing skins. I'm bumping that thread now.

From my experiences in the past most existing skins work perfectly fine after upgrading VB, true there are things you should fix, but usually they work out of the box, try and let it just update them for you... Unless you have already verified they aren't going to work in 3.7...?

07-04-2008, 11:09 AM	#4
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07-04-2008, 11:10 AM	#5
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	There ya go. The post above has text and a table. The table is gone, though. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-04-2008, 04:15 PM	#7
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwest	That's weird it's stripping it out, because even if I try to quote the blank one it's not even showing in the quote before I post... __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO!

07-04-2008, 04:16 PM	#8
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	When this happens, you see nothing in the preview, either. Whatever goes from the WYSIWYG editor to an actual HTML post just drops the table. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-07-2008, 10:14 AM	#10
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Not sure if this is related, but I'm seeing nothing but a blank ad at the top of the page this morning. I say screw the tables. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-04-2008, 11:06 AM	#3
bronco92 OS Admin Join Date: May 2008	I can get this fixed. Is there an example on here of a blank table that I can see?

07-07-2008, 10:10 AM	#9
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	It's not just with tables. I tried to post a very long post, with lots of VB formatting and it blanked it out after a certain amount. I ended up having to split the post into two posts in order to get it to work.

07-07-2008, 11:39 AM	#14
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Fixed? __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-07-2008, 11:45 AM	#15
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	Nope. Just tried one of my Excel Tables. 39 rows from a ChangeTracker 2 report, no dice. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-07-2008, 11:53 AM	#16
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	My post was from Open Office (which is what I always use). Trying Excel 2003 now.... __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-07-2008, 11:53 AM	#17
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	__________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-07-2008, 11:53 AM	#18
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	No dice. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

07-07-2008, 12:32 PM	#19
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I'm wondering if it isn't a post length but amount of data in a post, which is causing it? In this way my very long post, chock full of formatting, is triggering the same problem as a large table?

07-07-2008, 01:15 PM	#20
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I don't know thing one about VBulletin, but is there anything different about the database now? Perhaps the field length has been reduced there? __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

07-07-2008, 01:21 PM	#22
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	By change at the DB level I should clarify that maybe the field where post data is stored has changed data type to something like a varchar(XXX) where XXX is a set limit? __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

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