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That was awesome. WTF did that come from?
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09-10-2008, 12:54 PM | #52 |
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09-10-2008, 12:55 PM | #53 |
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I think VY was the perfect candidate to sit on the bench for at least a year and learn the game before starting. He struggled learning at the college level until his system was simplified for him. I'd say Pro ball has been too complicated for him, and with all the other stuff he has had going on since the Rose Bowl, he just isn't learning.
That doesn't mean he deserves a pass, but if guys like Pacman and Chris Henry get 50 chances, VY who has been a decent citizen up to this point deserves a chance to work through it. The best thing the Titans could do is shut him down for the year, take some of the pressure off him for a while and let him learn. |
09-10-2008, 02:28 PM | #54 |
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I'll always have fond memories of when he singlehandedly beat "The Greatest College Football Team Ever" (according to ESPN). And if he is bipolar, I hope he gets the treatment he needs. IIRC, that's something that can pop up into a real problem around this age.
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09-10-2008, 06:59 PM | #55 |
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Bipolar. Is that the catchall excuse for immaturity or bad behavior in celebrities? I mean, everyone reported that Britney Spear had to be bipolar but since January, there hasn't been any reports on that.
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09-10-2008, 07:14 PM | #56 |
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09-10-2008, 07:17 PM | #57 |
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Maybe he should go to Dallas, cuz he definitely needs to COWBOY UP!
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09-12-2008, 09:46 AM | #58 |
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It hit me last night that Vince Young's backup and mentor is Kerry Collins. Remember, the quy who walked into Dom Caper's office in 1998 and asked out of the starting lineup, that ultimately led to him getting cut? The issues with Vince make me wonder how much Kerry really learned from that experinece...
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Actually word is that Kerry though his locker is right next Vince's doesn't speak with him much and keeps to himself more. He, Collins the other day talked at length about his past difficults adnhow he was able to overcome them. Wwhen asked if he shared his story with Young befor eto try to help him along he said he had not. |
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09-13-2008, 04:56 AM | #60 |
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The police report says that Vince was suicidal...
ESPN - Fisher reached out to police because therapist said Young mentioned suicide - NFL NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The Tennessee Titans called police for help searching for Vince Young because his therapist told coach Jeff Fisher the quarterback mentioned suicide several times before driving away from his home with a gun. Both Fisher and Young have said what happened Monday night was overblown by the media. But the supplemental report filed Tuesday by Nashville police showed that Fisher was worried what his quarterback might be doing after the call from Young's therapist. "I asked him, 'What made her worry about him?' " Lt. Andrea Swisher wrote. "He stated, 'His mood, his emotions, he wants to quit, and he mentioned suicide several times.' He went on to state that he left the house with a gun."
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09-13-2008, 06:59 AM | #61 |
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I thought suicide worries were the pretty obvious undertones to this whole story.
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09-13-2008, 07:46 AM | #62 |
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Demetrius Underwood.
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09-13-2008, 08:38 AM | #65 |
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I don't want to be the guy that downplays this, but come on Vince, step outside the box and look at what you have. I would trade myself to be in your shoes at any time!
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+1. This guy seems like he's got a serious mental illness, not just celebrity whining problems. Bash him all you like for his on the field play - I go to UT, and I never thought he'd be any good in the NFL, and he's lived that out. However, he definitely seems like he needs some help. Here's the flip side to the comments that he's mentally weak - what would have happened to him at any point in his life after his amazing gifts at football were discovered, if he had decided that he just didn't want to play? How nice would our society, as a whole, have been to that guy? |
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09-13-2008, 04:28 PM | #70 |
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one of my motto's is "don't feel bad for millionaires". don't cry for him, argentina. if he couldn't run with a football like a gazelle or throw a bomb in the air with a cannon arm no one would care about Vincent Young. there's many people who have the same emotional difficulties as Young has, but weren't given the same opportunities to go to UT like Young was cuz they'll never be able to run as fast as him or lead a football team to a win like he could. who's feeling sorry about those people? who feels sorry about about the guy who couldn't get into UT cuz even though he had better grades than Vince or could do more with a college degree than Vince he couldn't afford to go to college? we feel sorry for the wrong people.
fuck Vince Young. i don't care if he commits suicide. he's had his chance. with his assets he could afford the best in therapy and mental healthcare. and i'm sure he doesn't have every friend and family member in his support system. all this drama just cuz he can throw a fucking football. what a world we live in. |
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09-13-2008, 05:05 PM | #72 |
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I typically agree with the general message that HA puts accross in his messages, and this time is no different. I don't agree with the crazy over the edge part where he is always just a hair short of bringing Hitler into the equation, but the general message I'm on board with. Don't feel sorry for him just because he is a pro athlete.
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its very possible. they have the ability to afford the finest in personal healthcare and can afford to have many people supporting them and taking care of the things that everyone else needs to do on their own. yet everyone else can somehow make it through the day without suicidal thoughts after a hard day at their 9-5. and let's face it, if you're in, say, sales and your entire livelihood is riding on the next sale in terms of commission and job security - that's a reason for depression and high anxiety. but not being able to handle boos in week one of a long football season cuz you threw a stupid interception in a stupid game?? if only we all had the luxury of that being the biggest concern we all had at our jobs. newsflash - Vince Young can laugh all the way to the bank cuz if even he throws a 100 INTs he'd be cut but he'd still be a millionaire. Quote:
...and apparently not a dime spent on helping him with his anxiety and inability to handle adverse situations. at the end of the day, the boy was given a lot. free ride to a great university (and, considering what his Wonderlic score was let's just say if he couldn't hit a 20 yard out perfectly i don't think his SAT scores were gonna get him a scholorship), multiple millions of dollars that will take care of him for the rest of his life and for this entire family and most likely extended entourage, access to experts in sports medicine for any injuries and ailments he may have, and the ability to afford top notch specialists in the event he ever had mental issues, which he apparently does have. that's a lot for one guy. i mean, how much more does he need that if he has a problem - any problem - he can't get access to the very best in their fields to assist him in recovering? i'm sorry, you're not gonna find my shoulder a welcome place to cry on, Vince. Last edited by Anthony : 09-13-2008 at 07:55 PM. |
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This all assumes that some forms of depression aren't due to a severe chemical inbalance that have nothing to do with how much money, how much stress, or how much financial hardship someone has. Of course, there is a great deal of evidence that some forms of depression are caused by neurotrasmitter inbalances and have nothing to do with any of the factors that you mention and can't be treated just by having money. Some people have treatment resistant depression that doesn't respond to any of the medications. |
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so Vince Young, interviewed by countless pro scouts and other types of personnel specialists, possibly could have some type of untreatable depression that has gone undetected all these years, despite being in the public eye for the last 6 or so years and being heavily scrutinized during the NFL Draft in 2006 whose only job is to screen prospective future employees for not only their physical abilities but also their abilities to handle stress. that would be a very convenient way to explain all this, wouldn't it? all neatly wrapped up in a box with a bow on top.
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I'm having trouble deciding who to agree with on the topic of mental illness. EF or HA.
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Many forms of mental illness do not start to manifest themselves until men are in their 20's. For women, they sometimes do not manifest until their 30's.
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its just very convenient that Vince Young's "mental illness" manifested after being booed once he threw his 2nd interception.
i'm just saying. Last edited by Anthony : 09-13-2008 at 08:14 PM. |
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i know these people didn't beat USC in a major bowl game, but if you got room to feel concerned for Vince then you got room to feel concerned to these people after what Hurricane Ike did to their lives:
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Yep, NFL Scouts have never missed the ball on nut jobs.
Has anyone seen Barrett Robbins recently? |
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Potential chemical imbalances aside. People adapt to their surroundings, its what humans do. Shallow thinking will lead you to believe that people in "good situations" should never have a reason to feel bad.
But more or less, everyone sits in the median on the emotional spectrum, no matter their lot in life, and they all hurt the same when what they've adapted too changes for the worse. Course, it's just easier to say "fuck the rich yo! I'm real!". |
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Or I can decide that they make might make more money than me and say "Fuck you" to them too.
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So PFT is reporting Young may have gone missing again on Friday.
This isn't ending well.
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Another thing we noticed at work. All the black guys are saying he just forgot his cell phone, no big deal, overblown, and all the white guys are saying he has mental problems that need to be addressed. I have no idea why there is such a racial split on the subject, as it has no relevance that makes much sense. Vick was another where this happened.
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