RFL 2008, Wk 9: Preview/Results--Deadline 9/22 (Sunday) at 11 pm EST - Page 3

Galaxy · 09-19-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

My guess is that Clausen would have found a way to choke the game away in that situation.

Probably. I'm not a big Clausen fan (my backup has gotten some time this year). We just don't have that explosion we need on both sides of the ball.

Radii · 09-19-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Just curious. Do you guys actually look at this stuff, or am I largely wasting my time creating them?

I enjoy those reports quite a bit, it adds a lot here I think.

Galaxy · 09-19-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

You dealt them a crushing blow, at least.

Crushing?

Next week is going to be a big game. We both need wins for different reasons. a win will get us to 5-3 going to games with BC, USC, Georgia, and Syracuse; a lost will put us at 4-4 with a rather challenging slate. A win or loss for you is all about the BCS bowl bid (and possibility the Big Ten title). It should be a close, fun game.

On a side note, what stops a QB sneak? Both big and I scored off it, and it looks like they just walked in. I've only ran it once or twice and defended it maybe twice, so I really have found the right plays to stop it.

Sun Tzu · 09-19-2008, 04:48 PM

I've always considered the QB sneak to be a cheese play, and I refuse to use it. I haven't seen it stopped since the 90's versions of Madden. I've seen at least 1 person on FOFC use it before...it didn't make me happy but whatever.

Kodos · 09-19-2008, 04:58 PM

It does seem rather unstoppable.

Penn State represents a huge threat to our hopes of a Big Ten title. If we could somehow beat them, that would be incredible. But it will take a minor miracle. Superior talent on the field, and superior talent behind the controller. But we will give them our best shot. I'd feel much better if it were Michigan on our schedule, and not PSU. I feel like the other three games on our schedule (Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and Purdue) are all pretty winnable for us. I don't think we'll beat PSU.

bignej · 09-19-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

It does seem rather unstoppable.

Penn State represents a huge threat to our hopes of a Big Ten title. If we could somehow beat them, that would be incredible. But it will take a minor miracle. Superior talent on the field, and superior talent behind the controller. But we will give them our best shot. I'd feel much better if it were Michigan on our schedule, and not PSU. I feel like the other three games on our schedule (Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and Purdue) are all pretty winnable for us. I don't think we'll beat PSU.

You need to earn the Big Ten title. Sun picking Penn State did just that for both of us . Michigan has to play Ohio state still to earn theirs.

Kodos · 09-19-2008, 05:30 PM

Oh, I agree. Although, just between you and me, the Big Ten title will go to you or me. Michigan doesn't stand a chance. (You'll see to that.)

And we all know that the mere fact that we even have a chance at the title is due to the fluke in the schedule where we ended up not playing OSU this year. And to a much lesser degree, Michigan.

Although, technically, I would not mind seeing Michigan win that game. In fact, that scenario would delight me. But then OSU is right up there with ND on my hate list.

Galaxy · 09-19-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I've always considered the QB sneak to be a cheese play, and I refuse to use it. I haven't seen it stopped since the 90's versions of Madden. I've seen at least 1 person on FOFC use it before...it didn't make me happy but whatever.

I've only used it two or three times before, so I really haven't had much chance get a handle on it. I think I'll "retire" using it (even on fourth and inches).

Galaxy · 09-19-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

Oh, I agree. Although, just between you and me, the Big Ten title will go to you or me. Michigan doesn't stand a chance. (You'll see to that.)

And we all know that the mere fact that we even have a chance at the title is due to the fluke in the schedule where we ended up not playing OSU this year. And to a much lesser degree, Michigan.

Although, technically, I would not mind seeing Michigan win that game. In fact, that scenario would delight me. But then OSU is right up there with ND on my hate list.

All this Big Ten tie-breaking stuff is confusing.

Radii · 09-19-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I've only used it two or three times before, so I really haven't had much chance get a handle on it. I think I'll "retire" using it (even on fourth and inches).

I use it on occasion vs the CPU, only in down/distance appropriate situations, and only b/c i know they'll use it on me too(sometimes in stupid spots like 4th and 3...)

Galaxy · 09-19-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii

I use it on occasion vs the CPU, only in down/distance appropriate situations, and only b/c i know they'll use it on me too(sometimes in stupid spots like 4th and 3...)

I haven't used it from 3 yards out. It works that well? I only use it from 1 yard or inches out. I'm not going to use it against RFL/NOFL members if its that much of a cheese play. I think your rules against the CPU are pretty good.

Karlifornia · 09-19-2008, 06:36 PM

Yeah I don't use the sneak anymore against human opponents. On occaision I will against the cpu.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-19-2008, 06:42 PM

FWIW, I think there are a few things much cheesier than a QB sneak which I think is legitimate in a few situations, even though I almost never call it.

Eaglesfan27 · 09-19-2008, 07:22 PM

I played a really poor game with 2 redzone interceptions, but we still beat Arizona 28-14.

Bigsmooth · 09-19-2008, 08:29 PM

Yeah, I try not to call the sneak against human opponents. It would have been real hard to not use it in the situation I was in last night at the end of the game though. The decision was made easier though since you had already scored using it earlier on. I have been stuffed on it once, in a real big spot, in another league for what it's worth. The guy I was playing just crowded the Center with extra defenders and I ended up losing a yard or two on 4th down.

Kodos · 09-20-2008, 12:06 AM

Looks like we're down to BC and Minny for the week. No pressure! Just updating the status!

Galaxy · 09-20-2008, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmooth

Yeah, I try not to call the sneak against human opponents. It would have been real hard to not use it in the situation I was in last night at the end of the game though. The decision was made easier though since you had already scored using it earlier on. I have been stuffed on it once, in a real big spot, in another league for what it's worth. The guy I was playing just crowded the Center with extra defenders and I ended up losing a yard or two on 4th down.

I would of had never used it if I knew how cheesy it was. Like I said, I haven't had much experience with it, so I didn't know. Hope you weren't mad when I did it.

MacroGuru · 09-20-2008, 01:16 AM

BYU has a properly named roster now.

Sun Tzu · 09-20-2008, 10:19 AM

Did the RFL start with fictitious names?

Eaglesfan27 · 09-20-2008, 12:08 PM

Yes, because we didn't want to wait for the 1st patch.

Galaxy · 09-20-2008, 12:45 PM

Kodos,
Did you want to play sometime Sunday night (11:30-12ish)?

Kodos · 09-20-2008, 03:35 PM

Yeah, that works for me.

Bigsmooth · 09-20-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I would of had never used it if I knew how cheesy it was. Like I said, I haven't had much experience with it, so I didn't know. Hope you weren't mad when I did it.

Nope, not mad at all. I'm still kind of on the fence about whether or not it is cheese. Most teams in real life can get a couple of inches on a qb sneak, so....?

DeToxRox · 09-20-2008, 07:47 PM

If its 4th and inches I go for the QB sneak but only if it is inside the 50 otherwise I punt.

Pumpy Tudors · 09-21-2008, 01:01 AM

I didn't get a chance to play my game on Saturday. Will have to do it on Sunday, but I'll try to make it early.

Galaxy · 09-21-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmooth

Nope, not mad at all. I'm still kind of on the fence about whether or not it is cheese. Most teams in real life can get a couple of inches on a qb sneak, so....?

Eh...I don't know. I think it depends on the quarterback and the defense. However, it just seems like you can't do anything to stop it (regardless if it's a great defense, a crappy QB or offensive line). When you can pick up 2-3 yards every time on a QB sneak, it just seems unrealistic to me.

Bigsmooth · 09-21-2008, 12:18 PM

It's not true that you can pick up 2-3 yards every time, especially with a slow QB, Rudy Carpenter, for example. I'd say 1 yard or less is automatic unless the other player really over commits.

DeToxRox · 09-21-2008, 01:33 PM

Waitin' on Tudors.

Kodos · 09-21-2008, 02:03 PM

Waitin' For Godot.

Pumpy Tudors · 09-21-2008, 04:00 PM

Guys, I'm afraid I'm not gonna get to my game until tonight (like I'm going to finish less than an hour before deadline). I have a hundred things to do today. Sorry to hold things up!

Kodos · 09-21-2008, 04:22 PM

No big deal. Thanks for letting us know the situation.

Sun Tzu · 09-21-2008, 09:18 PM

Do we need to make a Pumpy rule now? I mean...seperate from the 30 minutes in a dark room alone with him rule.

Kodos · 09-21-2008, 09:48 PM

Of course. People love rules named for them!

Kodos · 09-21-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Kodos,
Did you want to play sometime Sunday night (11:30-12ish)?

Anytime after 11 pm, sir. The earlier the better, really. I don't want to stay up too late tonight.

Galaxy · 09-21-2008, 10:00 PM

Are you going to sim the week at 11? I just need to do my recruiting before we game (we have one recruit coming in).

Pumpy Tudors · 09-21-2008, 10:00 PM

Game is starting. 35 degrees and rainy in West Lafayette. Gophers going for their first conference win!

DeToxRox · 09-21-2008, 10:15 PM

When I finished NHL I did a check in on Pumpy ... looks like he may need to wait a week for the victory. I am hopin for the miracle though!

Galaxy · 09-21-2008, 10:22 PM

What was the score and quarter?

Pumpy Tudors · 09-21-2008, 10:26 PM

Down 27-3, almost halftime.

DeToxRox · 09-21-2008, 10:29 PM

Just noticed I am @ Purdue next game, so I'll exact revenge for you Pump.

Then I lock horns with the Gophers, followed up with Northwestern.

If all goes well, it'll be UM vs OSU for the B10 title.

Fuck Indiana.

Galaxy · 09-21-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Fuck Indiana.

Don't worry......We'll take care of them in a little bit.

Karlifornia · 09-21-2008, 10:45 PM

Pretty healthy week thread.....I better have a commit from Al Francis when I download the new file later!

Galaxy · 09-21-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Pretty healthy week thread.....I better have a commit from Al Francis when I download the new file later!

I hope not!

Kodos · 09-21-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Are you going to sim the week at 11? I just need to do my recruiting before we game (we have one recruit coming in).

I'll sim as soon as Pumpy is done. I'll start recruiting, and you let me know when you're ready.

Pumpy Tudors · 09-21-2008, 10:59 PM

Ugh. A bad first quarter just killed us. Purdue 37, Minnesota 18.

Radii · 09-22-2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

You only got 11 regular season games? You need 6 wins and a .500 record to qualify for a bowl, correct?

I forgot to doublecheck my schedule last week after you'd asked about that, but yep, just 11 games, and I believe 6 wins and .500 is what you need to qualify.

Tech plays 12 games this year, but KWhit unscheduled the UGA/Ga Tech game, and the CPU doesn't pick up another game for the CPU team in those cases I guess, so I've only got 11.

Kodos · 09-22-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

That's what I'm saying. Right now, Michigan is down due to the transition. IU is on the upswing. While Michigan certainly has recruiting advantages right now due to their vastly superior history, Indiana may actually be fielding the better team this season. Kellen Lewis is a stud, Jon Middleton is one of the best DE's in college football, we have fast LBs who flow to the ball, and three very good safeties in the secondary.

In a ten game series, Michigan still wins more than IU. But IU would win at least 2 or 3 times. In past seasons, Michigan wins all ten games more likely than not.

I'm revising my previous estimate to 0 wins for IU. It's obvious that we suck this year after the BSU game.

09-19-2008, 04:48 PM	#104
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	I've always considered the QB sneak to be a cheese play, and I refuse to use it. I haven't seen it stopped since the 90's versions of Madden. I've seen at least 1 person on FOFC use it before...it didn't make me happy but whatever. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

09-19-2008, 04:58 PM	#105
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	It does seem rather unstoppable. Penn State represents a huge threat to our hopes of a Big Ten title. If we could somehow beat them, that would be incredible. But it will take a minor miracle. Superior talent on the field, and superior talent behind the controller. But we will give them our best shot. I'd feel much better if it were Michigan on our schedule, and not PSU. I feel like the other three games on our schedule (Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and Purdue) are all pretty winnable for us. I don't think we'll beat PSU. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 09-19-2008 at 05:05 PM.

09-19-2008, 05:30 PM	#107
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Oh, I agree. Although, just between you and me, the Big Ten title will go to you or me. Michigan doesn't stand a chance. (You'll see to that.) And we all know that the mere fact that we even have a chance at the title is due to the fluke in the schedule where we ended up not playing OSU this year. And to a much lesser degree, Michigan. Although, technically, I would not mind seeing Michigan win that game. In fact, that scenario would delight me. But then OSU is right up there with ND on my hate list. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties. Last edited by Kodos : 09-19-2008 at 05:34 PM.

09-19-2008, 06:36 PM	#112
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Yeah I don't use the sneak anymore against human opponents. On occaision I will against the cpu. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

09-19-2008, 06:42 PM	#113
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	FWIW, I think there are a few things much cheesier than a QB sneak which I think is legitimate in a few situations, even though I almost never call it. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-19-2008, 07:22 PM	#114
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I played a really poor game with 2 redzone interceptions, but we still beat Arizona 28-14. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-19-2008, 08:29 PM	#115
Bigsmooth College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006	Yeah, I try not to call the sneak against human opponents. It would have been real hard to not use it in the situation I was in last night at the end of the game though. The decision was made easier though since you had already scored using it earlier on. I have been stuffed on it once, in a real big spot, in another league for what it's worth. The guy I was playing just crowded the Center with extra defenders and I ended up losing a yard or two on 4th down.

09-20-2008, 12:06 AM	#116
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Looks like we're down to BC and Minny for the week. No pressure! Just updating the status! __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

09-20-2008, 01:16 AM	#118
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	BYU has a properly named roster now. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

09-20-2008, 10:19 AM	#119
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Did the RFL start with fictitious names? __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

09-20-2008, 12:08 PM	#120
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Yes, because we didn't want to wait for the 1st patch. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

09-20-2008, 12:45 PM	#121
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Kodos, Did you want to play sometime Sunday night (11:30-12ish)?

09-20-2008, 03:35 PM	#122
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Yeah, that works for me. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

09-20-2008, 07:47 PM	#124
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	If its 4th and inches I go for the QB sneak but only if it is inside the 50 otherwise I punt.

09-21-2008, 01:01 AM	#125
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I didn't get a chance to play my game on Saturday. Will have to do it on Sunday, but I'll try to make it early. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

09-21-2008, 12:18 PM	#127
Bigsmooth College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006	It's not true that you can pick up 2-3 yards every time, especially with a slow QB, Rudy Carpenter, for example. I'd say 1 yard or less is automatic unless the other player really over commits.

09-21-2008, 01:33 PM	#128
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Waitin' on Tudors.

09-21-2008, 02:03 PM	#129
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Waitin' For Godot. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

09-21-2008, 04:00 PM	#130
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Guys, I'm afraid I'm not gonna get to my game until tonight (like I'm going to finish less than an hour before deadline). I have a hundred things to do today. Sorry to hold things up! __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

09-21-2008, 04:22 PM	#131
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	No big deal. Thanks for letting us know the situation. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

09-21-2008, 09:18 PM	#132
Sun Tzu Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In the thick of it.	Do we need to make a Pumpy rule now? I mean...seperate from the 30 minutes in a dark room alone with him rule. __________________ I'm still here. Don't touch my fucking bacon.

09-21-2008, 09:48 PM	#133
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Of course. People love rules named for them! __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

09-21-2008, 10:00 PM	#135
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Are you going to sim the week at 11? I just need to do my recruiting before we game (we have one recruit coming in).

09-21-2008, 10:00 PM	#136
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Game is starting. 35 degrees and rainy in West Lafayette. Gophers going for their first conference win! __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

09-21-2008, 10:15 PM	#137
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	When I finished NHL I did a check in on Pumpy ... looks like he may need to wait a week for the victory. I am hopin for the miracle though!

09-21-2008, 10:22 PM	#138
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	What was the score and quarter?

09-21-2008, 10:26 PM	#139
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Down 27-3, almost halftime. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

09-21-2008, 10:29 PM	#140
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Just noticed I am @ Purdue next game, so I'll exact revenge for you Pump. Then I lock horns with the Gophers, followed up with Northwestern. If all goes well, it'll be UM vs OSU for the B10 title. Fuck Indiana.

09-21-2008, 10:45 PM	#142
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Pretty healthy week thread.....I better have a commit from Al Francis when I download the new file later! __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

09-21-2008, 10:59 PM	#145
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Ugh. A bad first quarter just killed us. Purdue 37, Minnesota 18. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

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