Obama versus McCain (versus the rest)

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Keith Olberman? That's the guy that was fired from ESPN right? He bashes Republicans now? Haha! What a loser!

He didn't get fired. He left ESPN for MSNBC.

[sabotai]

I watch MSNBC (and CNBC) because they have the hottest women (except Rachel Maddow, she's not very hot, but the rest are)

[Big Fo]

Originally Posted by sabotai

I watch MSNBC (and CNBC) because they have the hottest women (except Rachel Maddow, she's not very hot, but the rest are)

It's always nice when they bring Erin Brunett over from CNBC for an interview.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Fighter of Foo

I wouldn't be so sure about Chambliss winning a runoff either. You'll have Obama literally travelling the state with Martin as well as millions of DNC money coming in, especially if it's the difference in 59 and 60.

Obama could travel the state handing out a billion dollars cash & you still wouldn't get black voters to turn out for a statewide run off here.

Only scenario where Chambliss loses a run off is if the (R) voters are even more disheartened than they already are. I can see where a filibuster proof D majority in the Senate (without this race) could do that but otherwise, having already dealt with the loss & it's likely ramifications I don't see the mood getting much worse than it already is.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Big Fo

Voting Machines Elect One Of Their Own As President (the Onion)

One of the more likely scenarios for a third-party candidate to shock the nation.

The ending to that was awesome.

[Fighter of Foo]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Obama could travel the state handing out a billion dollars cash & you still wouldn't get black voters to turn out for a statewide run off here.

Really? Why not? Obama himself going down and saying, vote for Martin, I'm going to do (insert pol speak here) with his help won't work?

I'm confused.

[SirFozzie]

Looks like the Philly/Black Panther thing was no big deal after all

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Man asked to leave Philly polling place « - Blogs from CNN.com

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Obama could travel the state handing out a billion dollars cash & you still wouldn't get black voters to turn out for a statewide run off here.

Only scenario where Chambliss loses a run off is if the (R) voters are even more disheartened than they already are. I can see where a filibuster proof D majority in the Senate (without this race) could do that but otherwise, having already dealt with the loss & it's likely ramifications I don't see the mood getting much worse than it already is.

I'm sorry, but if Obama came to me and gave me a billion dollars cash to vote for Martin....I'm voting for Martin for everything I can.

[larrymcg421]

In a runoff, if the Dems have 58 Senators, Martin wins. If the Dems have 59 Senators, Chambliss wins.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Fighter of Foo

Really? Why not? Obama himself going down and saying, vote for Martin, I'm going to do (insert pol speak here) with his help won't work? I'm confused.

Wouldn't make a damn.

-- Martin ain't Obama

-- Obama appears to have worked a near miracle in generating the turnout he got. Lightning doesn't strike twice in the same place that often.

-- Most importantly, watch the vote count tonight at the top of the ballot vs the Senate race just a spot or two down (One spot lower maybe? I can't remember off the top of my head). See the gap in votes cast, realize the number of people who didn't give a big enough shit about Chambliss v Martin while they had the ballot in front of them to cast a vote. You really think they're making another trip to the polls for that race?

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Big Fo

Voting Machines Elect One Of Their Own As President (the Onion)

One of the more likely scenarios for a third-party candidate to shock the nation.

Best political story of the season. Some of the tickers at the bottom were priceless...

[flere-imsaho]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

The common wisdom is that if Virginia is called within the first hour or so after polls close, that it'll be pretty much over. Same with Pennsylvania.

The way I see it:

Pennsylvania goes Obama: Obama fans can be cautiously optimistic.

Pennsylvania goes McCain: McCain fans can be uncautiously optimistic.

Virginia goes McCain: McCain fans can be cautiously optimistic.

Virginia goes Obama: Obama fans can be uncautiously optimistic.


And given that it looks like Virginia ballot-counting might now drag on:

North Carolina goes Obama: Obama fans can go wildly optimistic and start rioting in Chicago. I can go to sleep (providing the little one cooperates).

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Big Fo

Voting Machines Elect One Of Their Own As President (the Onion)

One of the more likely scenarios for a third-party candidate to shock the nation.

Awesome

SI

[SirFozzie]

Here's an interesting article from an election official. Kinda interesting to see all the behind the scenes stuff that goes on.

The True Confessions of an Election Official • The Register

[Autumn]

I think the "people voting for Obama because he's black" sentiment (and I imagine that affects not just black voters) is more along the lines of "people voting for McCain because he's a maverick" factor. People make up their minds, or get excited about, candidates for a variety of vague psychological reasons. Most of them don't look hard at the issues. Little phrases or thoughts like this that gain momentum get people's votes.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

(and keeps beating O'Reilly in the 25-54 demographic for their time slot, but, again, who's counting)

SI

This was an interesting note on the Huffington Post (I take it that was your source). The problem was they cherry picked a week when O'Reilly was on vacation and not hosting (1st week of June). Here's the info:

MSNBC’s “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” averaged 477,000 viewers in the age 25 to 54 demographic during the first week of June, narrowly edging out Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor,” which averaged 472,000 in that demo, according to Nielsen Media Research.

For the month of June, O’Reilly beat out Olbermann in the 25 to 54 demographic, averaging 534,000 viewers to 408,000 for “Countdown.” In total viewers, “The Factor” was the leading program on cable news, averaging 2,497,000 viewers a night, while “Countdown” had less than half that many, 1,098,000.

Just adding a little balance (and I don't watch either program, just wanted to correct the record ).

[lordscarlet]

OK, I give up, I can't read all the posts I missed. I got through some of them, though.

Originally Posted by Big Fo

Obama supports an eight team college football playoff. I'm ready to vote for change.

I sent Wade a text with that one - Go Obama!

I also cheered for McCain saying, "He. Could. Go. All. The. Way!" That was a great line.

Originally Posted by EagleFan

It's decided now. The Redskins lost, Obama wins. The rest is just formality.

Hey, Obama wants an NCAA football playoff so that is a plus in my eyes.

+1

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Y'know, that was pretty much uncalled for.

+1

Originally Posted by Crim

I never said the election would be stolen, flere, or that McCain would win. I responded to the "If Obama wins by 7, oversampled his votes, blah blah" joke, because I do believe that there is voter fraud going on.

I believe that it happens in both directions, but is much more prevalent on the Democrat side.

You have misinterpreted me.

Why do you believe it is much more prevalent on the Dem side? There are heaps of examples (from biased groups) that there was widespread fraud on the Republican side in 2004. I think it's pretty much equal (with no statistical evidence).

-----

OK. So, I voted for Obama. I am somewhat hoping that he loses so that people saying there will be riots are proven wrong. Maybe I am just a liberal (although I'm not very liberal) jumping on the bandwagon, but that claim seems incredibly racist to me.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

He didn't get fired. He left ESPN for MSNBC.

No, he left to go to Fox Sports, but it was an ugly leave.

[JonInMiddleGA]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081103/D9478CM05.html

Giant banners unfolding up Rockefeller Plaza? WTF?

I had to read this twice to make sure it was from The Onion.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Arles

For the month of June, O’Reilly beat out Olbermann in the 25 to 54 demographic, averaging 534,000 viewers to 408,000 for “Countdown.” In total viewers, “The Factor” was the leading program on cable news, averaging 2,497,000 viewers a night, while “Countdown” had less than half that many, 1,098,000.

Just adding a little balance (and I don't watch either program, just wanted to correct the record ).

This is not surprising. Conservative talk show hosts (or whatever you want to call O'Reilly and Olbermann) always do better than liberal talk show hosts.

[Fighter of Foo]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

-- Most importantly, watch the vote count tonight at the top of the ballot vs the Senate race just a spot or two down (One spot lower maybe? I can't remember off the top of my head). See the gap in votes cast, realize the number of people who didn't give a big enough shit about Chambliss v Martin while they had the ballot in front of them to cast a vote. You really think they're making another trip to the polls for that race?

If you're right about the first part, the second part will definitely be true. I just can't picture significant numbers of first-time political voters/Obama supporters ditching the rest of their ballots (and/or voting significant R).

I'll watch for those totals tonight.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Looks like the Philly/Black Panther thing was no big deal after all

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Man asked to leave Philly polling place « - Blogs from CNN.com

How so? The two were able to intimidate voters for hours (check out the video on Fox). I take it if a few hooligans were standing in front of polls with KKK garb and a club all morning and afternoon, you would be OK with it as long as they left by 2-3 PM?

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Arles

This was an interesting note on the Huffington Post (I take it that was your source). The problem was they cherry picked a week when O'Reilly was on vacation and not hosting (1st week of June). Here's the info:

Nah, it's actually been over the past couple of weeks. Olbermann has been touting it on his show and O'Reilly even made some comments on his about how the process was flawed. Which, of course, Olbermann played up to make O'Reilly look like a conspiratorial nut.

SI

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Arles

How so? The two were able to intimidate voters for hours (check out the video on Fox). I take it if a few hooligans were standing in front of polls with KKK garb and a club all morning and afternoon, you would be OK with it as long as they left by 2-3 PM?

Stop being silly. He never said he was "OK with it", he just said it was "no big deal."

In fact, his direct quote in response to the story was:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

If true, throw em in jail, throw away the key, but I'm not going to trust internet rumor.

The "no big deal" comment was in regards to the fact that the Philadelphia District Attorney's office, said the office is not investigating the matter, calling it a "non-incident." Abookire says, "We have had no complaints from any voters that they have been intimidated."

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Fighter of Foo

I just can't picture significant numbers of first-time political voters/Obama supporters ditching the rest of their ballots (and/or voting significant R). I'll watch for those totals tonight.

I'll give you a benchmark to work from,
Bush/Gore and Miller/Mattingly from 2000.
2,583,208 Presidential votes cast in GA, 2,428,242 Senate votes cast.
About 6% fewer.

Bush/Kerry and Isaakson/Majette from 2004
3,298,798 Pres. votes in GA, 3,220,951 Senate votes cast
About 2.3% fewer.

I'll predict tonight's number is closer to 10% than 6%.

[Dr. Sak]

Not sure if anyone cares but....

I just votes...during the primaries I voted at 6pm and i was voter #129

Today I voted at approximately 445pm...and I was #1232

[Fighter of Foo]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I'll give you a benchmark to work from,
Bush/Gore and Miller/Mattingly from 2000.
2,583,208 Presidential votes cast in GA, 2,428,242 Senate votes cast.
About 6% fewer.

Bush/Kerry and Isaakson/Majette from 2004
3,298,798 Pres. votes in GA, 3,220,951 Senate votes cast
About 2.3% fewer.

I'll predict tonight's number is closer to 10% than 6%.

Thank you

[Pumpy Tudors]

so who won

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

so who won

I did.

[Greyroofoo]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

so who won

corporations

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

so who won

The terrorists.
And people who hate kittens.

[Pumpy Tudors]

cool i'm going to sleep now

i'm still at work though so i'll be under my desk. someone call me in like 6 hours so i can get up and go home

aight peace

[Greyroofoo]

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

cool i'm going to sleep now

i'm still at work though so i'll be under my desk. someone call me in like 6 hours so i can get up and go home

aight peace

what do you want me to call you?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

what do you want me to call you?

sexy chester pls thx

[Mustang]

From a local article (Sheboygan)

'“I just like the way (Obama) presents himself, his ideas,” said Eisold, who voted for Bush four years ago. “Something about John McCain — I don’t know. If you run for president three, four times and you don’t get it, there’s got to be something wrong. … I just don’t think with McCain it would change at all.”

Um.. huh? I miss something???

Far as I know, he ran in 2000 in the Republican primaries and was a possible VP selection in 96.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

what do you want me to call you?

Barack?

[Crim]

Originally Posted by JAG

My wife takes a different approach. She watches Fox to get the right leaning slant and MSNBC to get the left leaning slant so she can see things from both polarized viewpoints (she doesn't care for CNN).

Actually, this isn't far from what I do. I watch Fox primarily, but turn it over to MSNBC from time to time, because I know that there are stories unflattering to the Republicans which won't get much or any coverage on Fox.

That said, Olberman is barely tolerable most nights, and really I only "enjoy" watching him when he's on one of his "I'm right you're wrong, conservatives are evil and it's patently obvious" rants, and shaking, and gritting his teeth.

The short haired annoying as hell sarcastic mean spirited bitch that follows his show is thoroughly unwatchable though, not even for amusement sake.

[Crim]

Originally Posted by Lathum

get over yourself then. Originaly I was being sarcastic but now I am offended ( as offended as one can be on an internet message board). Go through my 17K posts and find me one that even shows a borderline hint of racisim.

That the kind of shit that pisses me off ( as pissed off as you can get on an internet message board). Excuse me for being a white person wanting to have an adult discussion about a black persons motivations.

Dayum.

(as dayum as you can get on an internet message board)

[Crim]

Originally Posted by timmynausea

(Insert joke about the disturbing number of times the word "lynch" appears in Lathum's 17,000 posts.)

My 6 and 4 year old daughters came into the room and asked me just now what was so funny. I am unable to explain the joke to them.

[SirFozzie]

Ping Arlie:

Would you like your crow baked or fried? And will you, Fox and Drudge be dining together or seperately? (oh, and for your KKK reference, seems the place he was at is in a 95% black district, so if anything, he was disenfranchising blacks, not whites)

Ben Smith's Blog: Panther vs. Obama - Politico.com

But a reader sends over a link to clinch the deal: The Panther in question appears to be one King Shamir Shabazz -- and he's no Obama supporter.

"[Obama] is a puppet on a string. I don't support no black man running for white politics. I will not vote for who will be the next slavemaster," he told the Philadelphia Daily News a few days ago, one of the least crazy things he said amid some straightforwardly racist riffs.

[SirFozzie]

CNN had the first preliminary results from counties in Indiana (Obama slight lead), and Kentucky (MCCain, decent lead) that polls closed in at 6:00 PM. It has begun.

[Galaxy]

Who do you think has the best, unbiased, and most exciting coverage to watch? It's not the same without Russert.

[larnott]

Vigo County, Indiana.

In 2004, Bush won the county 53/46.

This year, with 69% of precincts reporting so far, Obama is up by 15.

According to Wiki, "the county is one of the best bellwether regions for voting U.S. presidential elections; it has voted for the winning candidate in every election since 1960".

Bodes VERY well for Indiana.

[mauchow]

So far it's close.

[Galaxy]

CNN calls Kentucky for McCain, Vermont for Obama.

[SirFozzie]

8-3 McCain in electoral votes for those two states

[Galaxy]

I feel like I'm watching the NFL Draft.

[GrantDawg]

The old guy on the board at CNN, yeah, he needs to go. I can't watch that with his annoying presentation style.

[Galaxy]

Who won the Virginia Senate seat?

[bosshogg23]

Warner was projected as winner by MSNBC and CNN.