1983 Hall of Fame Ballot

[Young Drachma]

The following players have been selected for the first FOOL Hall of Fame ballot. Voting will last for three days. A majority of the HoF committee voting for said individuals will get them into the Hall. Only members of the Hall of Fame Committee may vote. Other votes will be discarded.


Aaron 'Scrap Iron' Dailey
Pitcher
Played for Charleston, Atlanta, Compton, Columbus, Rio Grande
Career Record: 77-74
Career Saves: 390
3.14 ERA
1184.2 Innings pitched
1175 Strikeouts
Career VORP: 240.7

HOF Monitor: 127
HOF Standard 27.07
Black Ink Points: 14
Gray Ink Points: 56

All Star: 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976
Pitcher of the Year: 1969


Gabriel 'Vandal' Prado
Pitcher
Played for St. Louis, Hartford, Compton, Valdosta, Atlanta
Career Record: 224-111
3.13 ERA
3267.2 Innings pitched
2906 Strikeouts
Career VORP: 706.2

HOF Monitor: 122
HOF Standard: 55.32
Black Ink Points: 59
Gray Ink Points: 244

All Star: 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1969
Pitcher of the Year: 1963, 1966



Benny 'Blinky' Myers
Pitcher
Played for St.Louis, Hartford, Compton, Chicago, Brooklyn
Career Record: 206-160
3.32 ERA
3491.2 Innings Pitched
2831 Strikeouts
Career VORP: 642.3

HOF Monitor: 99
HOF Standard: 40.15
Black Ink Points: 43
Gray Ink Points: 210

All Star: 1963, 1964, 1966, 1968
Rookie of the Year: 1963
Pitcher of the Year: 1964, 1968
Most Valuable Player: 1964


Tom 'Hollywood' Williams
Pitcher
Played for Baltimore, Compton, Toronto, New Orleans
Career Record: 187-155
3.49 ERA
3158.2 Innings Pitched
2652 Strikeouts
Career VORP: 570.0

HOF Monitor: 84
HOF Standard: 36.00
Black Ink Points: 34
Gray Ink Points: 176

All Star: 1961, 1962, 1963, 1965, 1967, 1970, 1971
Pitcher of the Year: 1961, 1967, 1970

Whit 'Jammer' O'Neal
Pitcher
Played for Hartford, Valdosta
Career Record: 160-97
3.43 ERA
2364.2 Innings Pitched
2376 Strikeouts
Career VORP: 193.5

HOF Monitor: 68
HOF Standard: 38.44
Black Ink Points: 23
Gray Ink Points: 147

All Star: 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977


Rick Inman
Third Base
Played for Charleston, Compton, Valdosta, Chicago
Batting Average: .307
Career OPS: .851
Career Hits: 2836
Career Home Runs: 238
Career RBIs: 1324
Career VORP: 859.2

HOF Monitor: 205
HOF Standard: 63.05
Black Ink Points: 40
Gray Ink Points: 225

All Star: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977
Most Valuable Player: 1967, 1971, 1974
Gold Glove: 1965, 1974


Fernando 'Birdbrain' Spindola
Outfield
Played for New York, Hartford
Batting Average: .273
Career OPS: .817
Career Hits: 2319
Career Home Runs: 406
Career RBIs: 1365
Career Stolen Bases: 350
Career VORP: 340.6

HOF Monitor: 115
HOF Standard: 44.21
Black Ink Points: 29
Gray Ink Points: 148

All Star: 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1967
Most Valuable Player: 1961
Gold Glove: 1973

Andres Aguilera
Outfield
Played for El Paso, Rio Grande
Batting Average: .280
Career OPS: .829
Career Hits: 2377
Career Home Runs: 324
Career RBIs: 1354
Career VORP: 473.6

HOF Monitor: 72
HOF Standard: 47.40
Black Ink Points: 14
Gray Ink Points: 130

All Star: 1961, 1962, 1963, 1967, 1968, 1970
Most Valuable Player: 1961


Tyler Reilly
First Base
Played for Baltimore, Rio Grande, Quad City
Batting Average: .296
Career OPS: .906
Career Hits: 1909
Career Home Runs: 298
Career RBIs: 1133
Career VORP: 610.8

HOF Monitor: 82
HOF Standard: 41.92
Black Ink Points: 15
Gray Ink Points: 145

All Star: 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971


Tony Hernandez
Outfield
Played for New York, Baltimore, Toronto
Batting Average: .297
Career OPS: .860
Career Hits: 1846
Career Home Runs: 203
Career RBIs: 865
Career Stolen Bases: 135
Career VORP: 468.5

HOF Monitor: 86.5
HOF Standard: 48.06
Black Ink Points: 33
Gray Ink Points: 110

All Star: 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1969
Most Valuable Player: 1962
Gold Glove: 1968

[ekcut]

I once went 4-4 with 4hrs in a slopitch game....can I get on the ballot?

[muns]

I voted finally

[Commo_Soldier]

Well looks like 5 are now a lock for induction and the fate of three falls in the hands of the final two voters.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Well looks like 5 are now a lock for induction and the fate of three falls in the hands of the final two voters.

I am glad you didn't say who you're referring to, as I am still considering my vote. I will submit it tomorrow night.

[Young Drachma]

The FOOL Hall of Fame is proud to induct:

SP Gabriel Prado
3B Rick Inman
CL Aaron Dailey
OF Fernando Spindola
SP Benny Myers

SP Tom Williams earned at least 40% (Ramz voted for him and isn't a member of the committee, as the current rules stated he needed to be. so his decisive vote was nullified.) of the vote and will be on the ballot next season. All other players will be relegated to the Veterans Committee, which has not yet convened (probably won't be for a few years...) to be inducted possibly at a future date, but will no longer be considered on the regular ballot.

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

SP Tom Williams earned at least 40% (Ramz voted for him and isn't a member of the committee, as the current rules stated he needed to be. so his decisive vote was nullified.) of the vote and will be on the ballot next season. All other players will be relegated to the Veterans Committee, which has not yet convened (probably won't be for a few years...) to be inducted possibly at a future date, but will no longer be considered on the regular ballot.

Just curious who all is on the committee?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Just curious who all is on the committee?

I posted for volunteers for the Hall of Fame for a week or so, and got a handful of responses. Basically no one was turned away that responded to me. The people who did were:

HOF:
Alan T
Dark Cloud
muns
Tasan
Kaosfere
Chief Rum
Commo Soldier

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I posted for volunteers for the Hall of Fame for a week or so, and got a handful of responses. Basically no one was turned away that responded to me. The people who did were:

HOF:
Alan T
Dark Cloud
muns
Tasan
Kaosfere
Chief Rum
Commo Soldier

So would O'Neal and Hernandez appear next year as well since they recieved 2 of the 7 votes as Williams did?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

So would O'Neal and Hernandez appear next year as well since they recieved 2 of the 7 votes as Williams did?

No, the threshold for returning on the ballot is 40% He had 42% of the vote, so he gets to be on the ballot next year. The rest don't. In a few years, we'll do a veterans committee and anyone who didn't get in the regular way can be nominated and we can vote on them in some form or fashion. But I don't wanna clog the ballot up each year on retreads or whatever.

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

No, the threshold for returning on the ballot is 40% He had 42% of the vote, so he gets to be on the ballot next year. The rest don't. In a few years, we'll do a veterans committee and anyone who didn't get in the regular way can be nominated and we can vote on them in some form or fashion. But I don't wanna clog the ballot up each year on retreads or whatever.

I was asking because Williams only recieved votes from you and Muns, unless ekcut is also a member and just wasn't listed.

[Young Drachma]

Oh, I thought ekcut was a member. (Tells you how much I pay attention)

That's my mistake. I guess Williams won't be considered after all. Thanks Commo.

[Chief Rum]

Looks like I can see votes above. So hope this isn't too late, but here is my ballot:

Prado
Myers
Williams
Inman
Spindola

[Chief Rum]

BTW, I did not look at the votes at the top, and I don't know what effect my ballot might have on things.

[Young Drachma]

Chief's vote triggers the 40% rule for Tom Williams, which means that he will be on next year's ballot. Nothing else changes.

[ekcut]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Chief's vote triggers the 40% rule for Tom Williams, which means that he will be on next year's ballot. Nothing else changes.

Hmmmm....the 40% rule I dislike for this initial year. I personally think that ALL of these players are HOF worthy, but there was something 'wrong' with voting for all of them. So I voted for who I thought were the best of the bunch. I have a feeling that the guys not elected in this year, or even those not reaching 40%, will still be better then most of the players on the next ballot.
Because I think this initial year will have the greatest depth, I feel a few worthy player may slip through the cracks. I'm putting in out there that if others agree, this year we can forgo the 40% rule and have all of these players remain on the ballot.

[Young Drachma]

Voting for the HoF will start to be every other year. And it's not as if these players will NEVER be able to be considered again.

There will be a veterans committee that will convene in one or two more cycles (I haven't decided yet) and that group will be able to nominate players like these who weren't carried over. Then people can vote on them and some will indeed be inducted as the veterans committee rules will state that at least two of them get in via that process.

But for now, I like what we've done here. It was open, transparent and the consensus picks were obvious and the only one that was borderline was T. Williams who arguably will get in next year anyway.

Short of just inducting every personal favourite of ours into the Hall, there had to be some criteria and I think what we have here is pretty fair and consistent.

[ekcut]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Voting for the HoF will start to be every other year. And it's not as if these players will NEVER be able to be considered again.

There will be a veterans committee that will convene in one or two more cycles (I haven't decided yet) and that group will be able to nominate players like these who weren't carried over. Then people can vote on them and some will indeed be inducted as the veterans committee rules will state that at least two of them get in via that process.

But for now, I like what we've done here. It was open, transparent and the consensus picks were obvious and the only one that was borderline was T. Williams who arguably will get in next year anyway.

Short of just inducting every personal favourite of ours into the Hall, there had to be some criteria and I think what we have here is pretty fair and consistent.

Ahhh cool...To be honest I haven't followed the HOF committee roles/procedures...sounds like it is all taken care of