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Old 12-26-2008, 03:54 PM   #1
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PC games on sale

Steam has some ridiculous deals on PC games right now running through the 2nd of January. Team Fortress 2 $9.99, Bioshock $4.99, along with some bundle deals and a lot more.

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Old 12-26-2008, 09:21 PM   #2
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Steam has some ridiculous deals on PC games right now running through the 2nd of January. Team Fortress 2 $9.99, Bioshock $4.99, along with some bundle deals and a lot more.

Civ 4 for $15.
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Old 12-26-2008, 09:22 PM   #3
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There are some pretty good deals in there. I got Peggle deluxe for $5 and Left 4 Dead for $38 (not the greatest, but still 25% off retail). Faster and cheaper than going to the store, I'm considering the Valve complete pack at $75 for my wife's PC.
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Old 12-26-2008, 09:36 PM   #4
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WWSM for $26.99!
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Old 12-27-2008, 07:57 AM   #5
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When did Baseball Mogul become Bill "Spaceman" Lee's Baseball Mogul?
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:40 AM   #6
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When did Baseball Mogul become Bill "Spaceman" Lee's Baseball Mogul?

And is it worth it for $12?
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:52 AM   #7
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I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around Bioshock at 4.99. That game still easily plays and looks better than most games released in the past year.
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:24 AM   #8
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Portal for $4.99 can't be bad.

Guess that's going to ruin my "I'm never buying from Steam again!" one-man boycott.
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:43 AM   #9
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Not sure what caused the boycott, but it has come a long way since it's disastrous introduction. In my opinion it's become one of the best aspects of gaming on a PC at this point.
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:40 AM   #10
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And is it worth it for $12?

I'll let you know. Taking the plunge now.
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:09 PM   #11
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The download is going painfully slow. Almost dial-up like speed. Is this normal?
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:14 PM   #12
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I downloaded Bioshock yesterday at 2.2 meg/s.
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Old 12-27-2008, 01:07 PM   #13
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How good is Steam?

Any spyware/adware installed, or a protection scheme like StarForce?
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Old 12-27-2008, 01:24 PM   #14
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How good is Steam?

Any spyware/adware installed, or a protection scheme like StarForce?

Steam is 100% safe. Download speeds are usually fast. You can launch any games you buy from steam through it and you can add games you didn't buy through it to steam to launch them through it as well. There's a built-in instant messenger, you can see which games people on your friends list are playing, and if its multiplayer you can join them in the game (if their server has an open spot) just by clicking a button.

It may the best thing going for PC gaming right now (at least that's my opinion). I'd prefer to buy all of my games through steam.
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Old 12-27-2008, 02:50 PM   #15
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Steam is 100% safe. Download speeds are usually fast. You can launch any games you buy from steam through it and you can add games you didn't buy through it to steam to launch them through it as well. There's a built-in instant messenger, you can see which games people on your friends list are playing, and if its multiplayer you can join them in the game (if their server has an open spot) just by clicking a button.

It may the best thing going for PC gaming right now (at least that's my opinion). I'd prefer to buy all of my games through steam.

You can also launch a steam-purchased game outside of steam, as long as the computer you're using has been activated for that game.

Got WWSM 09 from Steam, and changed the shortcut pointer so that it loads the executable directly instead of the Steam overlay, so I know that works.
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:15 PM   #16
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You can also launch a steam-purchased game outside of steam, as long as the computer you're using has been activated for that game.

Got WWSM 09 from Steam, and changed the shortcut pointer so that it loads the executable directly instead of the Steam overlay, so I know that works.

So this would be like buying the game, and installing a cracked executable, so it's not looking for the cd/dvd in the system, except your downloading the game from steam instead.

That's a great feature if you can do it to all games. Is this in XP or Vista? Is it easy to change, so you can bypass Steam?
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:24 PM   #17
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I guess you could look at it like that. Running through Steam isn't really that much of an annoyance though. I never notice it.

The prices are right, they have a big library, no media to keep track of and for the last couple years Steam's been streamlined enough so you never notice it.

Really the only negative I see is not getting physical documentation. I just prefer not to read PDF's on my screen and printing them out isn't the same.

Edit: If you care about achievements (I don't) you may need to have Steam running, not sure.
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:44 PM   #18
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So this would be like buying the game, and installing a cracked executable, so it's not looking for the cd/dvd in the system, except your downloading the game from steam instead.

That's a great feature if you can do it to all games. Is this in XP or Vista? Is it easy to change, so you can bypass Steam?

It's very easy to do. I don't even look at it as a cracked executable, because you still have to authorize the game through Steam before you can even play it. What you do by stripping the Steam executable thing from the shortcut is get rid of the Steam overlay that pops up at times.

I still leave Steam active in the background for messages and such, but I don't get those "press alt + tab to whatever" messages when the game is loading or at other times anymore.

Think of it this way - the Steam overlay is intended as a convenience to the user. It isn't like the free GameTap client where your use of the game is dependent upon your acceptance of the annoyances. It's there as a convenience so you can do things within Steam without having to alt-tab off the game screen or whatever.

Me, I don't like it, so I changed the shortcut to only load the game and not the overlay. It doesn't touch the game code itself at all. Does that make any sense?
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:08 PM   #19
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:41 PM   #20
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Picked up Bioshock tonight for only $4.99. Downloaded at about 750K/sec, took approx 90 minute to download the entire thing. Installed and is running without issue. Awesome deal if you ask me, especially considering that even if you purchase this off the shelf it still has DRM.

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Old 12-27-2008, 11:54 PM   #21
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FTR, Steam runs slow as shit on my computer. Me no likey.

And that is largely why I don't like the overlay. It just slows things down for me.
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Old 12-28-2008, 01:05 AM   #22
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It's very easy to do. I don't even look at it as a cracked executable, because you still have to authorize the game through Steam before you can even play it. What you do by stripping the Steam executable thing from the shortcut is get rid of the Steam overlay that pops up at times.

I still leave Steam active in the background for messages and such, but I don't get those "press alt + tab to whatever" messages when the game is loading or at other times anymore.

Think of it this way - the Steam overlay is intended as a convenience to the user. It isn't like the free GameTap client where your use of the game is dependent upon your acceptance of the annoyances. It's there as a convenience so you can do things within Steam without having to alt-tab off the game screen or whatever.

Me, I don't like it, so I changed the shortcut to only load the game and not the overlay. It doesn't touch the game code itself at all. Does that make any sense?

Yes it does, sounds like I need to check them out again, as I looked into them a while ago, but wasn't sure how good they were. Sounds like they've got amazing prices, which for downloadable content is good for the consumer, if they let you download the games once more if your HD crashes on you.

Do they allow such a thing? I know we can get support to get FOF re-licensed after a crash by emailing tech support and loading our license into the game. Curious to hear whether or not you can do the same with Steam.
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Old 12-28-2008, 01:21 AM   #23
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Yes it does, sounds like I need to check them out again, as I looked into them a while ago, but wasn't sure how good they were. Sounds like they've got amazing prices, which for downloadable content is good for the consumer, if they let you download the games once more if your HD crashes on you.

Do they allow such a thing? I know we can get support to get FOF re-licensed after a crash by emailing tech support and loading our license into the game. Curious to hear whether or not you can do the same with Steam.


You get unlimited downloads as far as I know. I've downloaded Team Fortress 2 at least 4 times because of reformats and building a new computer with no problems or re-activations or anything of that sort.
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Old 12-28-2008, 07:35 AM   #24
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:54 AM   #25
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I hate Steam. Is there anyway to get the games to run without loading Steam. I bought the boxed version of FM and I am still having to use Steam.
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:21 AM   #26
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I don't know if it's possible for games bought through steam, but I activated my store bought copy of FM in steam and don't need to run steam to play it. Just create a separate shortcut to the .exe and run that.
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Old 12-28-2008, 01:19 PM   #27
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I hate Steam. Is there anyway to get the games to run without loading Steam. I bought the boxed version of FM and I am still having to use Steam.

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I don't know if it's possible for games bought through steam, but I activated my store bought copy of FM in steam and don't need to run steam to play it. Just create a separate shortcut to the .exe and run that.

Big Fo answered GoldenEagle, I'll answer Big Fo, it is possible. To explain it to GE, the shortcut created by steam for my copy of WSM had this in the target field:
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"C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe" -applaunch 10560

I located the executable for WSM at C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\worldwide soccer manager 2009\wsm.exe and made a shortcut directly to that file and voilà, I'm running the game without having to run steam.

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Old 12-28-2008, 01:27 PM   #28
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I don't know if it's possible for games bought through steam, but I activated my store bought copy of FM in steam and don't need to run steam to play it. Just create a separate shortcut to the .exe and run that.

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Big Fo answered GoldenEagle, I'll answer Big Fo, it is possible. To explain it to GE, the shortcut created by steam for my copy of WSM had this in the target field:
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"C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe" -applaunch 10560

I located the executable for WSM at C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\worldwide soccer manager 2009\wsm.exe and made a shortcut directly to that file and voilà, I'm running the game without having to run steam.

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Who said anything about a separate shortcut? nuke the -applaunch 10560 string from the shortcut created on installation and it still works fine.
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Old 12-28-2008, 01:46 PM   #29
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Thanks for posting this. I'm now among the ranks who grabbed Bioshock at $4.99. I've had this on a shortlist of games to pick up; stuff that I missed when it first came out but definitely wanted to play. And that price just cannot be beat.

Now to figure out where I'm going to find spare time for this along with the new Wii games ... sigh, guess I can kiss off January '09 from getting productive work done
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:28 PM   #30
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Who said anything about a separate shortcut? nuke the -applaunch 10560 string from the shortcut created on installation and it still works fine.


but then won't it simply launch steam without launching the game? I'm confused as to your comment...

The shortcut isn't to wsm.exe with some launch for steam, it's for steam with some launch of another application (which I assume is their code for "launch wsm.exe")

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Old 12-28-2008, 02:31 PM   #31
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but then won't it simply launch steam without launching the game? I'm confused as to your comment...

The shortcut isn't to wsm.exe with some launch for steam, it's for steam with some launch of another application (which I assume is their code for "launch wsm.exe")

FM

Oh, I see. You're talking about Steam in general, I'm talking about the steam overlay on top of WSM.

I run Steam anyway for the buddy list, but I've stripped out the overlay because it's annoying and gets in my way.
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Old 12-28-2008, 02:49 PM   #32
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Oh, I see. You're talking about Steam in general, I'm talking about the steam overlay on top of WSM.

I run Steam anyway for the buddy list, but I've stripped out the overlay because it's annoying and gets in my way.

yeah, what I mentioned was for someone to run the game without having to run steam at all.

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Old 12-29-2008, 12:55 PM   #33
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Already had Bioshock or I would have picked it up for 5 bucks.

I bought Trials 2: Second Edition for $2.49 and STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl for $5.

Between those and the Space Rangers 2 reboot on Impulse I am set for the next month.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:27 PM   #34
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I picked up Civ 4, but I can't just run the Civilization4.exe executable (as described a few posts up). When I do, it throws an error saying "Failed to find Steam".
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Old 12-30-2008, 07:04 AM   #35
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I've been trying to DL the installation of Team Fortress 2 for two days now - and it's only at 28% - argggg..
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Old 12-30-2008, 08:28 AM   #36
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Picked up Race 07, Bioshock and Xpand Rally. Grand total $14. Nice.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:13 AM   #37
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I grabbed Dawn of War Everything Pack, and Titan Quest Gold. $42. I was downloading at over 1 Mbps.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:34 PM   #38
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:46 PM   #39
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Bought Mount and Blade last night for $14.90, and so far I am completely hooked on it.

It's a great game.

I downloaded "Left 4 Dead" and "World In Conflict" last night. Neither took too long. I have been contemplating the "Dawn Of War" pack as well...
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Bought Mount and Blade last night for $14.90, and so far I am completely hooked on it.

Me, too. Well, I haven't been able to play it yet, but at that price I had to go ahead and buy it for when I do have time.

The Strategy First complete back for like $48 is calling to me, but I just finished Gears of War 2, still have my MLB Power Pros 2008 MLB Life career going, grabbed Far Cry 2 from the company store, and got Crysis: Warhead and Fallout 3 for Christmas. I've got enough games for now...
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:20 PM   #41
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they were temporarily out of stock on UT3, but I'll probably spring for the $10 on that as well. I'm a cheapskate, so these will last me a while
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they were temporarily out of stock on UT3, but I'll probably spring for the $10 on that as well. I'm a cheapskate, so these will last me a while

How on earth was a digitial delivery service "out of stock" on anything?
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funny thing, that. according to what I read, they ran out of CD keys.
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:57 AM   #45
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:49 AM   #46
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please school me on Mount & Blade. I'm not real big on RPG games, but this is simply you riding around, gathering people to fight with you and then find more people to fight?

I just downloaded and tried the demo and it looks pretty interesting, just trying to get a handle on what the game is.

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Old 01-01-2009, 10:33 AM   #47
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please school me on Mount & Blade. I'm not real big on RPG games, but this is simply you riding around, gathering people to fight with you and then find more people to fight?

I just downloaded and tried the demo and it looks pretty interesting, just trying to get a handle on what the game is.

FM

Yeah, pretty much.

The combat engine is great. It's great for what it is. I played the hell out of that game. In the last 3 years, I have only played four PC games with any regularity: Half Life 2, Eastside Hockey, Civ IV, and Mount & Blade. So, it's in very, very good company.
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:03 PM   #48
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please school me on Mount & Blade. I'm not real big on RPG games, but this is simply you riding around, gathering people to fight with you and then find more people to fight?

I just downloaded and tried the demo and it looks pretty interesting, just trying to get a handle on what the game is.

FM

The game plays similar to Pirates Gold if you ever played that, just in a middle ages setting. You recruit people, fight other groups if you want, or you can go city to city playing as a merchant. When war breaks out, you, with you army of followers, can join one side as a mercenary. When you do that, you can loot and pillage the villages. Eventually, you can become a vassal of one of the rulers if you gain enough favor with them, at which point you'll be given a village to rule over.

Some people give out quests. Village Elders for the villages, Guild Masters in cities, and the Lords in the castles.

Each part is pretty simple. Managing a village is nothing more than building a few improvements (at first, I haven't gotten too far in that part yet). But when you put them all together, it's a pretty unique game. It's a very basic version of what I envision the perfect Open-Ended RPG to be (but the closest thing to it that's out there).
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:59 PM   #49
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Picked up the XCOM pack and WWSM. Thanks for the notice!
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:11 PM   #50
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Yeah, pretty much.

The combat engine is great. It's great for what it is. I played the hell out of that game. In the last 3 years, I have only played four PC games with any regularity: Half Life 2, Eastside Hockey, Civ IV, and Mount & Blade. So, it's in very, very good company.

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The game plays similar to Pirates Gold if you ever played that, just in a middle ages setting. You recruit people, fight other groups if you want, or you can go city to city playing as a merchant. When war breaks out, you, with you army of followers, can join one side as a mercenary. When you do that, you can loot and pillage the villages. Eventually, you can become a vassal of one of the rulers if you gain enough favor with them, at which point you'll be given a village to rule over.

Some people give out quests. Village Elders for the villages, Guild Masters in cities, and the Lords in the castles.

Each part is pretty simple. Managing a village is nothing more than building a few improvements (at first, I haven't gotten too far in that part yet). But when you put them all together, it's a pretty unique game. It's a very basic version of what I envision the perfect Open-Ended RPG to be (but the closest thing to it that's out there).

thanks for the info guys, looks mighty interesting. Sabotai's explanations help even a bit more, pretty interesting idea that you actually grow or change in stature in the game.

As I said, I'm not big into RPG, and not particularly interested in the MMORPG aspect of things, but to be able to play this one on my own sounds cool.

I also just downloaded and installed the demo for World of Goo and I am mighty impressed by it, looks like a ton of fun...

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