What do you do best as a player?

Barkeep49 · 04-08-2009, 06:11 PM

In response to a vote today, I started thinking about what I do best as a player. I would say it's these 3 things:

1. At my best, I play analytically, whether it's based on post, statistical, or voting analysis
2. At my best, I can help drive a conversation. This is helped because
3. At my best I am transparent in my thinking. I don't tend to think a lot before I write. I just start writing out what I think, and try to offer specifics for why I think that and that becomes my analysis.

I actually think there are better players at all three things than I am (and unfortunately I can think of a couple people who are better at multiple of those things than I am) but those would be what I do better than other aspects of WW (for instance being a wolf, or using a role wisely, or being able to spot wolves as a villager).

hoopsguy · 04-08-2009, 06:35 PM

1. Catch hidden messages in posts, especially as a wolf
2. Generate theories that are a little outside of the traditional werewolf box
3. Get my point across in threads, either through volume of posts or clarity of posts
4. Attract seer scans

What I do worst - pure gut plays are disproportionately wrong compared to where they should be statistically.

lerriuqs · 04-08-2009, 06:35 PM

I get better the more I play in a group - the players get easier to read as I play more games. USFL would attest to this - in our current and last game, I did/have done a good job of reading the opposition.

EagleFan · 04-08-2009, 07:10 PM

I have no idea...

But I will speculate. I think I am good at reading between the lines. Unfortunately I think that leads to trouble when I try to overthink things sometimes.

I also think I am good at misdirection. If I think a wolf is just playing off what I am saying I like trying to push the issue a little to see just how many things whey will aree with, the more you keep them posting the more you can get out of the situation.

The problem that I see with the above is that sometimes what I post may be intended to help me weed something out of a situation but my intentions aren't that clear to the others in the game so it may be a distraction at times.

Abe Sargent · 04-08-2009, 07:19 PM

1). I have a solid intuition, nothing amazing, but solid
2). As the game goes on, I'm good at cutting through the crap that has built up and getting straight to the bone. I have found numerous wolves on Day 5+ just by their posts in the thread.
3). I think I'm good with the non-traditional roles, outside of seer and BG.

Lathum · 04-08-2009, 07:40 PM

annoy other players

Abe Sargent · 04-08-2009, 07:48 PM

No that's Blade. You just kinda tweak them a bit sometimes

Alan T · 04-08-2009, 07:49 PM

What I do best as a player...

Watch from the sidelines and second guess everyone's moves while IMing players after they are dead.

claphamsa · 04-08-2009, 09:04 PM

I post meaningless drivel quite well!

Schmidty · 04-08-2009, 09:33 PM

I have no WW skills. I just like to watch the scenery. I bet there is no one out there that can pinpoint anything, other than HULK SMASH!!

Passacaglia · 04-08-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

What I do best as a player...

Watch from the sidelines and second guess everyone's moves while IMing players after they are dead.

I didn't get an IM!

I'd say I'm best at getting other people talking -- I like to sit back and question what everyone else has said, and get them to elaborate their thoughts further. But I dunno.

USFLTecmo · 04-09-2009, 12:28 AM

I'm good at losing.

Seriously. I've been in 7 games now, including this one, with 5 coming at my home site, and have only been on the winning side once.

hoopsguy · 04-09-2009, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USFLTecmo

I'm good at losing.

Seriously. I've been in 7 games now, including this one, with 5 coming at my home site, and have only been on the winning side once.

Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too.

Lathum · 04-09-2009, 12:37 AM

I would say my biggest asset is toeing the line and creating enough chaos to make the wolves not want to kill me at night, but also keep myself from getting lynched.

IT helps me when I have a role to stay alive, and as a wolf it helps because I can get away with more and people claim it's just Lathum being Lathum.

I really don't go into games with an agenda to create chaos, but I tend to think outloud in the game and chaos tends to find me.

jeheinz72 · 04-09-2009, 09:15 AM

My biggest asset is the ketchup porn.

claphamsa · 04-09-2009, 09:37 AM

thats ur only asset dog....

jeheinz72 · 04-09-2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

thats ur only asset dog....

It's still technically my biggest...

The Jackal · 04-09-2009, 01:10 PM

I think my biggest asset is telling when Heinz is lying.

jeheinz72 · 04-09-2009, 01:12 PM

I never lie!

Danny · 04-10-2009, 02:25 AM

I am an active player who tries to post analysis, think critically and play objectively not letting gut feeling get in the way of what is logically the best course of action. I think this has given me generally (current game excluded so far) the ability to at the end of the day make the correct vote.

PurdueBrad · 04-13-2009, 10:17 AM

I do a pretty good job of dying, particularly on day one as of late.

EagleFan · 04-13-2009, 01:48 PM

vote PurdueBrad

I had to get that out of my system, and it is what I do best....

Chief Rum · 04-14-2009, 12:38 AM

I suppose I could admit to a few decent skills that work well for me, but what works best really depends on my role.

For instance, I don't think I am a good roled villager, for the most part. I don't take in the ramifications of it too well, or always make the best play. I also don't spot clues well; it's just too hard for me to do that, given my usual time constraints and my impatience to "catch up".

But I am a very good plain villager, mostly because I am very good with information analysis and with making educated guesses based on that.

But I think the skill I am truly best at is being nameless, and that helps me tons as a wolf. Countless times, people say they can't get an accurate vibe on me (or any vibe at all), and that I am generally slippery to lynch, for whatever reason. I don't know that I can point to one thing I do that causes this; I just note that it seems to be the case, with how often I slip later into games as a wolf (and also often as a roled villager--wolves also seem to have a problem pinning me down at times).

Incidentally, this is why, if I am ever playing against "me", I am scanning me first if I have the option.

Poli · 04-15-2009, 08:45 PM

Nothing.

Danny · 04-15-2009, 08:46 PM

I think if I was a villager, I would have caught me!

Abe Sargent · 04-15-2009, 08:54 PM

I think I have become slippery these last few games, but maybe that's just a temporary thing. I've had 2 or more votes every Day One since The Dungeon!, and I've not been lynched on any of those days. And I was only a wolf on one of those games.

claphamsa · 04-15-2009, 08:57 PM

abe, you get used to lots of day one votes...... :'(

saldana · 04-20-2009, 12:54 PM

i get voted out on day one exceptionally well.

saldana · 04-20-2009, 12:54 PM

or night killed

path12 · 04-22-2009, 07:03 PM

I don't remember.

Oh yeah. I think I'm good at keeping my style the same whether I'm good or bad. And I don't get lynched very often. And when I'm into it I'm very good at rooting out wolves, especially later in a game.

By far my worst point is that if I'm not engaged for whatever reason I'm very sloppy and generally unhelpful to the village.

Alan T · 04-22-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

What I do best as a player...

Watch from the sidelines and second guess everyone's moves while IMing players after they are dead.

I change my mind, I'm not even good at this!

Abe Sargent · 04-22-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

abe, you get used to lots of day one votes...... :'(

I'm starting to. Multiple Day One votes FIVE games in a row. I mean, wow. Not just one vote, 2+ each Day One for 5 games in a row.

EagleFan · 04-22-2009, 10:19 PM

vote Abe

TheNorm · 04-23-2009, 01:18 AM

Staying under the radar.

This place is intense though, I like it.

dubb93 · 04-23-2009, 01:35 AM

I was pretty damn good about causing mass chaos in Sparta. I may have made a new arch nemisis or two in the process.

USFLTecmo · 04-23-2009, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USFLTecmo

I'm good at losing.

Seriously. I've been in 7 games now, including this one, with 5 coming at my home site, and have only been on the winning side once.

1-7.

At least I'm faring better than the Lions.

jeheinz72 · 04-23-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USFLTecmo

1-7.

At least I'm faring better than the Lions.

Sorry you had to eat it in Hades USFL. I tried to think of a scenario where I could have both of us live through that day and I didn't find it likely.

USFLTecmo · 04-23-2009, 03:19 PM

I was just glad I was able to do something worthwhile for the wolves, even if it was just to aid in a double kill. I only got two scans in, both villager, and the only one I leaked to Athens was that Lathum was the Ephor when I was on my way to Hades.

I was hoping to last past day two on Athens and really be able to wreak havoc. Instead, I got my havoc wreaked. C'est la vie.

Passacaglia · 04-23-2009, 03:24 PM

For a while, it looked like you were going to scan Chief Rum, and the wolf hoplite was going to protect him, so he would come up wolf even though he was a villager. That could have been fun.

04-08-2009, 07:19 PM	#5
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	1). I have a solid intuition, nothing amazing, but solid 2). As the game goes on, I'm good at cutting through the crap that has built up and getting straight to the bone. I have found numerous wolves on Day 5+ just by their posts in the thread. 3). I think I'm good with the non-traditional roles, outside of seer and BG. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-08-2009, 07:48 PM	#7
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	No that's Blade. You just kinda tweak them a bit sometimes __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-08-2009, 07:49 PM	#8
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	What I do best as a player... Watch from the sidelines and second guess everyone's moves while IMing players after they are dead. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

04-08-2009, 09:04 PM	#9
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	I post meaningless drivel quite well! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-08-2009, 09:33 PM	#10
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I have no WW skills. I just like to watch the scenery. I bet there is no one out there that can pinpoint anything, other than HULK SMASH!! __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

04-08-2009, 06:35 PM	#2
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	1. Catch hidden messages in posts, especially as a wolf 2. Generate theories that are a little outside of the traditional werewolf box 3. Get my point across in threads, either through volume of posts or clarity of posts 4. Attract seer scans What I do worst - pure gut plays are disproportionately wrong compared to where they should be statistically.

04-08-2009, 06:35 PM	#3
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	I get better the more I play in a group - the players get easier to read as I play more games. USFL would attest to this - in our current and last game, I did/have done a good job of reading the opposition.

04-08-2009, 07:10 PM	#4
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I have no idea... But I will speculate. I think I am good at reading between the lines. Unfortunately I think that leads to trouble when I try to overthink things sometimes. I also think I am good at misdirection. If I think a wolf is just playing off what I am saying I like trying to push the issue a little to see just how many things whey will aree with, the more you keep them posting the more you can get out of the situation. The problem that I see with the above is that sometimes what I post may be intended to help me weed something out of a situation but my intentions aren't that clear to the others in the game so it may be a distraction at times.

04-08-2009, 07:40 PM	#6
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	annoy other players

04-09-2009, 12:28 AM	#12
USFLTecmo H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin	I'm good at losing. Seriously. I've been in 7 games now, including this one, with 5 coming at my home site, and have only been on the winning side once. Last edited by USFLTecmo : 04-09-2009 at 12:28 AM.

04-09-2009, 12:37 AM	#14
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I would say my biggest asset is toeing the line and creating enough chaos to make the wolves not want to kill me at night, but also keep myself from getting lynched. IT helps me when I have a role to stay alive, and as a wolf it helps because I can get away with more and people claim it's just Lathum being Lathum. I really don't go into games with an agenda to create chaos, but I tend to think outloud in the game and chaos tends to find me.

04-09-2009, 09:37 AM	#16
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	thats ur only asset dog.... __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-09-2009, 01:10 PM	#18
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I think my biggest asset is telling when Heinz is lying.

04-10-2009, 02:25 AM	#20
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I am an active player who tries to post analysis, think critically and play objectively not letting gut feeling get in the way of what is logically the best course of action. I think this has given me generally (current game excluded so far) the ability to at the end of the day make the correct vote.

04-13-2009, 10:17 AM	#21
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I do a pretty good job of dying, particularly on day one as of late.

04-13-2009, 01:48 PM	#22
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	vote PurdueBrad I had to get that out of my system, and it is what I do best....

04-14-2009, 12:38 AM	#23
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I suppose I could admit to a few decent skills that work well for me, but what works best really depends on my role. For instance, I don't think I am a good roled villager, for the most part. I don't take in the ramifications of it too well, or always make the best play. I also don't spot clues well; it's just too hard for me to do that, given my usual time constraints and my impatience to "catch up". But I am a very good plain villager, mostly because I am very good with information analysis and with making educated guesses based on that. But I think the skill I am truly best at is being nameless, and that helps me tons as a wolf. Countless times, people say they can't get an accurate vibe on me (or any vibe at all), and that I am generally slippery to lynch, for whatever reason. I don't know that I can point to one thing I do that causes this; I just note that it seems to be the case, with how often I slip later into games as a wolf (and also often as a roled villager--wolves also seem to have a problem pinning me down at times). Incidentally, this is why, if I am ever playing against "me", I am scanning me first if I have the option. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-15-2009, 08:45 PM	#24
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Nothing. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

04-15-2009, 08:46 PM	#25
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think if I was a villager, I would have caught me!

04-15-2009, 08:54 PM	#26
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I think I have become slippery these last few games, but maybe that's just a temporary thing. I've had 2 or more votes every Day One since The Dungeon!, and I've not been lynched on any of those days. And I was only a wolf on one of those games. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-15-2009, 08:57 PM	#27
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	abe, you get used to lots of day one votes...... :'( __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

04-20-2009, 12:54 PM	#28
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i get voted out on day one exceptionally well.

04-22-2009, 07:03 PM	#30
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I don't remember. Oh yeah. I think I'm good at keeping my style the same whether I'm good or bad. And I don't get lynched very often. And when I'm into it I'm very good at rooting out wolves, especially later in a game. By far my worst point is that if I'm not engaged for whatever reason I'm very sloppy and generally unhelpful to the village. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

04-22-2009, 10:19 PM	#33
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	vote Abe

04-23-2009, 01:18 AM	#34
TheNorm Mascot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, IL	Staying under the radar. This place is intense though, I like it.

04-23-2009, 01:35 AM	#35
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	I was pretty damn good about causing mass chaos in Sparta. I may have made a new arch nemisis or two in the process.

04-23-2009, 03:19 PM	#38
USFLTecmo H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin	I was just glad I was able to do something worthwhile for the wolves, even if it was just to aid in a double kill. I only got two scans in, both villager, and the only one I leaked to Athens was that Lathum was the Ephor when I was on my way to Hades. I was hoping to last past day two on Athens and really be able to wreak havoc. Instead, I got my havoc wreaked. C'est la vie.

04-23-2009, 03:24 PM	#39
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	For a while, it looked like you were going to scan Chief Rum, and the wolf hoplite was going to protect him, so he would come up wolf even though he was a villager. That could have been fun.

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