cartman's FOFC College Football Top 25 poll, Week 2 open for voting

[cartman]

Hello all,

I apologize for not getting the poll results posted in time for the games this past weekend. The internet connection went out in Yosemite on Friday morning, and it never came back before we left. I'm back home now, with no long trips on the horizon.

The votes for this week's poll are due by 6pm Central on Thursday, Sept. 17th. Here are the results of last week's poll, as well as how the teams fared:

Team			Votes	Rec.	Weekend Results
1. Florida (7)		245	2-0	beat Troy 56-6
2. Texas (2)		236	2-0	beat Wyoming 41-10
3. USC			227	2-0	beat #9 Ohio State 18-15
4. Alabama (1)		222	2-0	beat Florida Intl. 40-14
5. Penn State		192	2-0	beat Syracuse 28-7
6. Oklahoma State	188	1-1	lost to Houston 45-35
7. California		178	2-0	beat Eastern Washington 59-7
8. Mississippi		173	1-0	bye
9. Ohio State		163	1-1	lost to #3 USC 18-15
10. LSU			152	2-0	beat Vanderbilt 23-9
11. BYU			145	2-0	beat Tulane 54-3
12. Boise State		126	2-0	beat Miami(OH) 48-0
13. Georgia Tech	114	2-0	beat Clemson 30-27
14. Oklahoma		112	1-1	beat Idaho State 64-0
15. TCU			95	1-0	beat Virginia 30-14
16. Miami (FL)		81	1-0	bye
17. Virginia Tech	75	1-1	beat Marshall 52-10
18. Utah		73	2-0	beat San Jose State 24-14
19. North Carolina	71	2-0 	beat Connecticut 12-10
20. Georgia		66	1-1	beat South Carolina 41-37
21. Cincinnati		51	2-0	beat SE Missouri State 70-3
22. Missouri		40	2-0	beat Bowling Green 27-20
23. Nebraska		38	2-0	beat Arkansas State 38-9
24. Notre Dame		33	1-1	lost to Michigan 38-34
25. Kansas		28	2-0	beat UTEP 34-7

Also Receiving Votes:
Michigan State 21,Oregon State 19,Pittsburgh 16,Iowa 12,Clemson 11,
Boston College 10,Florida State 9,West Virginia 9,Oregon 8,Auburn 4,
Texas Tech 3,Arizona 2,Baylor 1,Michigan 1

Thanks to the following FOFCers for voting this week:

BishopMVP
Butter_of_69
cartman
Dr. Sak
JonInMiddleGA
Mike1409
molson
Noop
SnDvls
Solecismic's Football Frontier

[SnDvls]

1. Florida
2. USC
3. Alabama
4. Penn State
5. Texas
6. California
7. BYU
8. Boise State
9. LSU
10. Mississippi
11. Georgia Tech
12. Virginia Tech
13. TCU
14. Ohio State
15. Oklahoma
16. Oklahoma State
17. Utah
18. Missouri
19. Miami, FL
20. UCLA
21. Oregon State
22. Georgia
23. Cincinnati
24. Nebraska
25. Pittsburgh

[JonInMiddleGA]

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. USC
4. Alabama
5. Penn State
6. LSU
7. California
8. Mississippi
9. Virginia Tech
10. Georgia Tech
11. Brigham Young
12. Ohio State
13. Boise State
14. Oklahoma
15. Utah
16. Miami
17. Oklahoma State
18. Texas Christian
19. Oregon
20. North Carolina
21. Nebraska
22. Texas Tech
23. Georgia
24. Houston
25. Michigan

[Young Drachma]

Omnivore rankings released for Week 2:

1 BYU
2 Texas
3 USC
4 Florida
5 Boise State
6 Alabama
7 LSU
8 Cincinnati
9 Penn State
10 Mississippi
11 California
12 Utah
13 Miami
14 North Carolina
15 Missouri
16 Georgia Tech
17 Kansas
18 TCU
19 UCLA
20 Oregon State
21 Nebraska
22 Pittsburgh
23 Michigan
24 Colorado State
25 Texas Tech

[BishopMVP]

1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. USC
4. Texas
5. BYU
6. Cal
7. Penn St.
8. Ohio State
9. Houston
10.Cincinnati
11.Oklahoma
12.Miami
13.Georgia Tech
14.Mississippi
15.Virginia Tech
16.Oklahoma St.
17.Auburn
18.LSU
19.TCU
20.Michigan
21.Notre Dame
22.Clemson
23.Nebraska
24.Boise St
25.Missouri

Dropped out: Georgia (15) UNC (18) FSU (19) Michigan St. (24)
New: Houston (9) Auburn (17) TCU (19) Clemson (22)
Notes:
-Florida looked better than Alabama this week but it's still Troy. Beat Tennessee easily like they should and they'll be #1.
-Miami drops despite not playing because of FSU's struggles. Ole Miss similarly with Memphis being blown out.
-Clemson entering, Notre Dame staying despite losses. Both teams were on the road at Top 25 teams and arguably outplayed their opponents.
-It's an absolute joke that anyone has Houston below Oklahoma St. or especially Georgia. Name recognition and prime-time national coverage aside, that was as impressive a win as BYU over Oklahoma. They'll be hosting Texas Tech late night (9:15est) on 9/26 on ESPN2 in what's sure to be another offensive shootout.

[cartman]

Here's the Top 25 from Solecismic's Football Frontier:

1. USC
2. Alabama
3. Texas
4. Boise State
5. Georgia Tech
6. North Carolina
7. Penn State
8. Florida
9. LSU
10. Utah
11. Pittsburgh
12. BYU
13. Ohio State
14. California
15. Mississippi
16. TCU
17. Boston College
18. Oklahoma State
19. Miami (FL)
20. Arizona
21. Missouri
22. UCLA
23. Nebraska
24. Iowa
25..Clemson

[BishopMVP]

I've said it for years, and I'm pretty sure Jim uses a computer formula so use whatever small sample size caveats you want, but I just can't fathom what about a 12-10 win over UConn screams let's put UNC at #6 ahead of Florida.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

-It's an absolute joke that anyone has Houston below Oklahoma St. or especially Georgia.

I'll be sure to let the following people know you disapprove of their judgment:
Robb Akey, Idaho; Gary Andersen, Utah State; David Bailiff, Rice; Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech; Tim Beckman, Toledo; Bobby Bowden, Florida State; Tim Brewster, Minnesota; J.D. Brookhart, Akron; Rich Brooks, Kentucky; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Neil Callaway, UAB; Dave Christensen, Wyoming; Dave Clawson, Bowling Green; Mario Cristobal, Florida International; David Cutcliffe, Duke; Mark Dantonio, Michigan State; Butch Davis, North Carolina; Todd Dodge, North Texas; Ron English, Eastern Michigan; Larry Fedora, Southern Miss; Al Golden, Temple; Jim Grobe, Wake Forest; Jim Harbaugh, Stanford; Dan Hawkins, Colorado; Brian Kelly, Cincinnati; Steve Kragthorpe, Louisville; Mike Leach, Texas Tech; Jim Leavitt, South Florida; Bill Lynch, Indiana; Les Miles, LSU; Dan Mullen, Mississippi State; Rick Neuheisel, UCLA; Ken Niumatalolo, Navy; Tom O'Brien, N.C. State; Stan Parrish, Ball State; Gary Patterson, TCU; Bo Pelini, Nebraska; Chris Petersen, Boise State; Gary Pinkel, Missouri; Mark Richt, Georgia; Mike Riley, Oregon State; Rich Rodriguez, Michigan; Nick Saban, Alabama; Mike Sanford, UNLV; Greg Schiano, Rutgers; Mike Sherman, Texas A&M; Steve Spurrier, South Carolina; Rick Stockstill, Middle Tennessee; Bob Stoops, Oklahoma; Kevin Sumlin, Houston; Jeff Tedford, California; Bob Toledo, Tulane; Jim Tressel, Ohio State; DeWayne Walker, New Mexico State; Charlie Weatherbie, Louisiana-Monroe; Charlie Weis, Notre Dame; Tommy West, Memphis; Paul Wulff, Washington State; Ron Zook, Illinois.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I'll be sure to let the following people know you disapprove of their judgment:

I'm not sure using the coaches (or their sons, or whatever intern in the Sports Information office was around this week) who clearly don't watch other teams play on Saturday is a great defense to hide behind. Although if Kevin Sumlin had them lower I will retract all complaints.

This isn't some daisy chain where A beats B, B beats C and C beats A like the Big 12 South last season, or where we're judging teams at the end of the season that have clearly improved since week 1. Oklahoma State beat Georgia at home 24-14 last weekend, then Houston won at Oklahoma State 45-35 this weekend. You can argue that 9 is way too high (and it probably is with that defense) but the offense is no fluke considering it returned 8 starters from the unit that averaged 563 yards and 41ppg last year.

[Butter]

1. Florida

2. BYU

3. USC

4. Alabama

5. Texas

6. Penn State

7. California

8. Boise State

9. Cincinnati

10. Utah

11. TCU

12. Houston

13. Kansas

14. Mississippi

15. Missouri

16. Miami (FL)

17. Georgia Tech

18. Nebraska

19. North Carolina

20. Ohio State

21. Auburn

22. Baylor

23. Oregon State

24. Clemson

25. Oklahoma State

Dropped out: (24) Michigan State

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Although if Kevin Sumlin had them lower I will retract all complaints.

So an highly partial participants judgement is superior to the combined assessment of all impartial participants. Ho-kay, if you say so.

Frankly, you're the guy out there on an island but since I've got very damned little interest in trying to defend my own two cents worth in a poll setup where cartman's initial groundrules clearly stated Please keep the thread with voting submissions free of any comments about someone's vote. , I'll just chalk this up to being my mistake and leave it to the combined brilliance of your wisdom -- which looks like an absolute joke put together by a four year old who has spent more time watching Barney than football -- and Jim's magnificently accurate early season computer poll.

[RainMaker]

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. USC
4. Alabama
5. BYU
6. Penn State
7. Boise State
8. Mississippi
9. LSU
10. Oklahoma
11. California
12. Virginia Tech
13. TCU
14. Cincinnati
15. Utah
16. Houston
17. Oklahoma State
18. Utah
19. North Carolina
20. Nebraska
21. Ohio State
22. Georgia
23. Miami
24. UCLA
25. Pittsburgh

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

So an highly partial participants judgement is superior to the combined assessment of all impartial participants. Ho-kay, if you say so.

Frankly, you're the guy out there on an island but since I've got very damned little interest in trying to defend my own two cents worth in a poll setup where cartman's initial groundrules clearly stated Please keep the thread with voting submissions free of any comments about someone's vote. , I'll just chalk this up to being my mistake and leave it to the combined brilliance of your wisdom -- which looks like an absolute joke put together by a four year old who has spent more time watching Barney than football -- and Jim's magnificently accurate early season computer poll.

The Sumlin thing was a joke... As for the rest, I wasn't around for the preseason thread and didn't see any ground rules. I'll refrain from commenting on people's polls from now on.

[Dr. Sak]

1. Florida
2. USC
3. Texas
4. Alabama
5. BYU
6. California
7. LSU
8. Penn State
9. Boise State
10. Ohio State
11. Oklahoma
12. Cincinnati
13. Michigan
14. Mississippi
15. TCU
16. Utah
17. Nebraska
18. Georgia Tech
19. Virginia Tech
20. Houston
21. Oklahoma State
22. Georgia
23. Kansas
24. Miami Fla
25. Pittsburgh

[cartman]

Front page bump. I'll PM reminders a little later this evening.

[cartman]

Here's mine:

1. Texas
2. Florida
3. Alabama
4. USC
5. Mississippi
6. Penn State
7. BYU
8. LSU
9. California
10. LSU
11. TCU
12. Boise State
13. Houston
14. Oklahoma
15. Nebraska
16. Georgia Tech
17. North Carolina
18. Oklahoma State
19. Utah
20. Missouri
21. Georgia
22. Miami (FL)
23. Kansas
24. Virginia Tech
25. Cincinnati

[molson]

1. Florida
2. USC
3. Alabama
4. Texas
5. Mississippi
6. LSU
7. Penn State
8. Boise State
9. Ohio State
10. California
11. Virginia Tech
12. Georgia
13. Brigham Young
14. Utah
15. Georgia Tech
16. Oklahoma
17. Houston
18. Miami
19. TCU
20. North Carolina
21. Cincinnati
22. Oklahoma State
23. Nebraska
24. Iowa
25. Oregon State

[cartman]

bump...

About an hour to go to get your vote submitted.

[Noop]

1. Florida
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. USC
5. LSU
6. Penn State
7. BYU
8. Mississippi
9. California
10. Boise State
11. Georgia Tech
12. TCU
13. Utah
14. Miami
15. North Carolina
16. Oklahoma
17. Ohio State
18. Kansas
19. Oregon State
20. Michigan
21. Nebraska
22. Cincinnati
23. Oklahoma State
24. Houston
25. Florida State

[cartman]

voting is now closed. I'll have the results posted in a bit.