03-17-2010, 02:36 PM | #101 | |
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03-17-2010, 02:53 PM | #102 | |
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03-17-2010, 03:04 PM | #103 |
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03-17-2010, 03:05 PM | #104 |
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03-17-2010, 03:11 PM | #105 |
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I just kind of look at them like college students who haven't discovered reality yet, figuring it will either eventually hit them or occasionally it never will (in which case they become Demoncrats anyway).
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03-17-2010, 03:25 PM | #106 | |
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Fits me to a tee! Libertarian in college, Democrat post-college. I doubt I will ever find reality. |
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03-17-2010, 03:34 PM | #107 | |
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03-17-2010, 03:36 PM | #108 |
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After having to deal with the State of Mass fuckers this was easy. I was pleasantly surprised how unobtrusive it was.
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03-17-2010, 03:47 PM | #109 |
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I think people grossly overestimate the amount, or rather the completeness or usefulness, of information the government has. They also grossly overestimate how useful information found on the Internet is. As stated elsewhere I can find my contact info on the Internet, for about six places I've lived and no way to tell what is accurate. Thirdly, people overestimate how common it is to be a middle class person who uses the Internet. There are millions of people who virtually do not exist in any electronic form. They may live on cash, live with family, have never had a bank account or credit card, never been listed in a telephone directory. Put this all together and I think it's silly to think a census isn't needed (forget the fact that it is required).
I know my dad has gotten great use out of old census reports in doing our genealogy. The fact that it has birth dates, people living together, etc., is hugely important in piecing together any family trees. I don't have any problem filling in my birth date. I have a birth certificate, it's not like it's information I'm hiding from the government. I wonder if people were as paranoid about the government in the 1890 census. Probably I suppose. |
03-17-2010, 03:59 PM | #110 | |
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Your comment about kids in college made me laugh because as an adult back in school it is so true. I look at some of these kids and think , man are they stupid and in for a jolt. As for the government already having the info, well, probably. But I would bet the cost to find a way to get that info all in one place would exceed the 15 billion the census is costing. Plus, a lot of the cost of the census is for employment so at least it is stimulating the economy in some way. |
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03-17-2010, 04:16 PM | #111 | |
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03-17-2010, 04:20 PM | #112 | |
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This is why I always put such a kickass job title on my 1040. I bet my descendants are going to be pretty impressed to learn that they have an international man of mystery in their family tree. |
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03-17-2010, 07:17 PM | #113 |
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Yes, the census is expensive. Yes, a lot of the info is already obtainable somewhere about some people. But the constitution mandates that every person be counted, whether or not they are on gov't lists or such. This could be done cheaper via sampling, but the Supreme Court has said that is not allowed.
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03-17-2010, 11:57 PM | #114 |
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Yeah, but all he knew how to do was cook humans SI
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03-17-2010, 11:57 PM | #115 | |
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03-18-2010, 12:02 AM | #116 |
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We filled ours out tonight and under race options they have
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03-18-2010, 04:29 AM | #117 |
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03-18-2010, 09:10 AM | #118 |
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03-18-2010, 09:13 AM | #119 | ||
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Based on my experience with the government, I'll say that while they probably have, spread across multiple agencies, a lot of information, their ability to synthesize it is appallingly bad. Just bad in general, not even bad as compared to companies like Google or Amazon. Quote:
Interestingly enough: How Privacy Vanishes Online, a Bit at a Time - NYTimes.com |
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03-18-2010, 09:17 AM | #120 | |
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Currently, there are a number of privacy laws that prohibit the government from having one big, consolidated database with everything it may have a legitimate reason to know about its citizens. The Social Security database is an excellent example of this. It literally takes an act of Congress for another agency to get access to it. Is there anyone out there that really wants the government to have this kind of data at its fingertips? |
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03-18-2010, 09:23 AM | #121 |
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03-18-2010, 09:41 AM | #122 | |
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My name, date of birth and race? The whole concept of a "legal name" is a government invention anyway. You need to go through the government to change it. You need to register it with the government when you're born, or when you die. It's a way to indentify us for "legal", government purposes. Every country has their own rules. And I don't know why I should be scared that the government knows my date of birth and race. I'd be happy to tell anyone who asks. Last edited by molson : 03-18-2010 at 09:42 AM. |
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03-18-2010, 09:56 AM | #123 | |
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03-18-2010, 10:01 AM | #124 |
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03-18-2010, 11:38 AM | #125 | |
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I'd rather none of the above have my information. (Tho, again, the census information seems pretty innocuous) SI
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