2012 NFL Regular Season - Week 4: The Focus Turns to Football Now - Page 12

Coffee Warlord · 10-01-2012, 10:19 PM

You know.

I'm fairly certain there's a lot of Bears fans there tonight.

Lathum · 10-01-2012, 10:22 PM

How the fuck do you lose Marshall?

bhlloy · 10-01-2012, 10:23 PM

Well, it probably helped that the TE was blocking the corner and the safety before the ball was thrown

britrock88 · 10-02-2012, 12:21 AM

I entered tonight's game with an untouchable 97-point lead in fantasy... my opponent, behind Cutler/Marshall/Bears/Gould, put up 67. (It was close enough that, at one point, a 80+ yard TD pass to Marshall would have tied the game.) Pretty solid showing from the Bears.

Danny · 10-02-2012, 07:56 PM

Sanchez is having a pretty good year, he is ahead of both Tannehill and Weeden in QB rating.

bulletsponge · 10-02-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Sanchez is having a pretty good year, he is ahead of both Tannehill and Weeden in QB rating.

you know sarcasm doesnt translate well in words, add a

Blackadar · 10-03-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Sanchez is having a pretty good year, he is ahead of both Tannehill and Weeden in QB rating.

Anyone else hoping that Sanchez has a really good game this weekend just so we don't have put up with round-the-clock Tebow coverage on ESPN?

Sun Tzu · 10-03-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

Tebow coverage on ESPN?

What is this "Tebow" you speak of? Is it a new sport?

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 10-03-2012, 08:47 AM

just think of all the electricity a tebow/shonn greene backfiled will produce! 1.5 yards and a cloud of dust!

spleen1015 · 10-03-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

Anyone else hoping that Sanchez has a really good game this weekend just so we don't have put up with round-the-clock Tebow coverage on ESPN?

Absolutely.

sterlingice · 10-03-2012, 09:11 AM

Is there actually round the clock Tebow coverage on ESPN? I haven't watched in forever

SI

spleen1015 · 10-03-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Is there actually round the clock Tebow coverage on ESPN? I haven't watched in forever

SI

They had Sports Center from Jets camp for the first 2 weeks or so. This was the last straw for me with ESPN.

TroyF · 10-03-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

Anyone else hoping that Sanchez has a really good game this weekend just so we don't have put up with round-the-clock Tebow coverage on ESPN?

No matter your opinion on Tebow, he's the best option for the Jets right now. If your QB is only going to complete 49.3% of his passes anyway, you may as well be running the wildcat fulltime.

The funny thing is Tebow was probably the bright spot last week for the Jets. Not as a QB of course, but he lined up in the backfield a few times and picked up blitzes like he'd been doing it for years. Sanchez, of course, missed both throws.

Not many people are talking about this, but is it possible we are about to see the end of Rex Ryan as Jets coach? No, I'm not talking about the end of the year, I'm talking about after next weeks game.

Monday night, home game, national tv. . . if the Texans maul them the way the 49ers did, does ownership realize the team is lost anyway and call it a day?

spleen1015 · 10-03-2012, 09:44 AM

I don't know what I would like to see more, the disappearance of Rex Ryan or Tim Tebow.

JPhillips · 10-03-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

No matter your opinion on Tebow, he's the best option for the Jets right now. If your QB is only going to complete 49.3% of his passes anyway, you may as well be running the wildcat fulltime.

The funny thing is Tebow was probably the bright spot last week for the Jets. Not as a QB of course, but he lined up in the backfield a few times and picked up blitzes like he'd been doing it for years. Sanchez, of course, missed both throws.

Not many people are talking about this, but is it possible we are about to see the end of Rex Ryan as Jets coach? No, I'm not talking about the end of the year, I'm talking about after next weeks game.

Monday night, home game, national tv. . . if the Texans maul them the way the 49ers did, does ownership realize the team is lost anyway and call it a day?

Woody Johnson loves him. With the Revis and Holmes injuries I'd be stunned if he was fired after the season.

Blackadar · 10-03-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

No matter your opinion on Tebow, he's the best option for the Jets right now. If your QB is only going to complete 49.3% of his passes anyway, you may as well be running the wildcat fulltime.

The funny thing is Tebow was probably the bright spot last week for the Jets. Not as a QB of course, but he lined up in the backfield a few times and picked up blitzes like he'd been doing it for years. Sanchez, of course, missed both throws.

Not many people are talking about this, but is it possible we are about to see the end of Rex Ryan as Jets coach? No, I'm not talking about the end of the year, I'm talking about after next weeks game.

Monday night, home game, national tv. . . if the Texans maul them the way the 49ers did, does ownership realize the team is lost anyway and call it a day?

1. I don't believe that Tebow is the best option. I think Sanchez is pretty mediocre, but he doesn't have anyone to throw to. Looking at the big picture, the Jets don't have anyone who can stretch the field. They really don't have anyone who can get open consistently now that Holmes is out. And with Sanchez unable to throw the deep out, that allows defenses to stack the middle of the field. Tebow doesn't change that dynamic.

Plus, once you bench Sanchez for Tebow, there's no going back. You can't really put Sanchez back as your long-term starter. Not in that market. Not on that team. It's essentially an irreversible decision. They just gave Sanchez a $40m extension ($20m guaranteed). You don't toss that away after 4 weeks.

2. Rex isn't getting fired next week. Even if he drops trou and dry-humps a cheerleader, he's not getting fired next week.

stevew · 10-03-2012, 12:18 PM

Look, I'm not trying to be anti or pro Sanchez, but his extension was nothing more than a glorified cap out of the remainder of his rookie deal so that they could free up a bunch of 2012 space. He can get benched easily.

BillJasper · 10-03-2012, 12:46 PM

Without Revis or Holmes, I think you stick with Sanchez. This is the time you'll find out what he's really made of and if he's the long-term solution at QB.

bhlloy · 10-03-2012, 12:48 PM

I'm a big Sanchez fan but just put him out of his misery already. He was always a guy who was going to need a good situation to be an effective NFL QB and the Jets are about as far from that as you can get. That team is fucked either way but if you don't have any WR and you still aren't willing to design the gameplay around Sanchez's strengths after four years, you might as well get what Tebow is going to give you, which is an improved running game and the element of surprise when you do pass it. Right now that offense as a traditional offense is a train wreck no matter who the QB is

Coffee Warlord · 10-03-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Is there actually round the clock Tebow coverage on ESPN? I haven't watched in forever

SI

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Blackadar · 10-03-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Look, I'm not trying to be anti or pro Sanchez, but his extension was nothing more than a glorified cap out of the remainder of his rookie deal so that they could free up a bunch of 2012 space. He can get benched easily.

Only to some extent. His salary this year was set up as a bonus to pro-rate it over the rest of the deal. That saved $6m in cap space this year. However, his 6m non-guaranteed salary next year became an $8.75m guaranteed salary. That's not just a cap-out. That's a pretty significant chunk of cash.

Anyone can get benched, but the Jets will be paying Sanchez almost $9m next year and there's no way around that. That's an awfully big cap hit for your backup QB.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 10-03-2012, 05:55 PM

who's decision was it to bring in tebow? johnson, ryan or sparano? i'm guessing johnson since he was the driving force behind the favre signing. i'm sure sparano tacitly approved but... it's such a double bind. everyone saw this coming

TroyF · 10-03-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

1. I don't believe that Tebow is the best option. I think Sanchez is pretty mediocre, but he doesn't have anyone to throw to. Looking at the big picture, the Jets don't have anyone who can stretch the field. They really don't have anyone who can get open consistently now that Holmes is out. And with Sanchez unable to throw the deep out, that allows defenses to stack the middle of the field. Tebow doesn't change that dynamic.

Plus, once you bench Sanchez for Tebow, there's no going back. You can't really put Sanchez back as your long-term starter. Not in that market. Not on that team. It's essentially an irreversible decision. They just gave Sanchez a $40m extension ($20m guaranteed). You don't toss that away after 4 weeks.

2. Rex isn't getting fired next week. Even if he drops trou and dry-humps a cheerleader, he's not getting fired next week.

1) The problem is, Sanchez is not going to be starting if he can't get the completion percentage up and he's not going to get the completion percentage up with a good cast.It's a rabbit hole and it's only a matter of time. I'm not saying Tebow will be successful, but I think his legs can make him more successful than Sanchez. And if Sanchez keeps dying out there, you have no choice anyway.

2) Johnson can love Ryan all he wants. He can blame injuries all he wants. If they get another shellacking and this time it's on national tv, I find it hard to believe it won't start impacting the hometown fans. Once it impacts them, you have to make a move. I wouldn't be shocked if it happens sooner than people think.

BillJasper · 10-03-2012, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

2) Johnson can love Ryan all he wants. He can blame injuries all he wants. If they get another shellacking and this time it's on national tv, I find it hard to believe it won't start impacting the hometown fans. Once it impacts them, you have to make a move. I wouldn't be shocked if it happens sooner than people think.

I don't believe Ryan gets replaced during the season. You simply have no one on staff that could reasonably take his place. You're not going to ignite the fan base by naming a just fired head coach to replace Ryan in season.

This is a team that has no offense and an aging defense, they have to blow it up and start over from the GM down.

Buccaneer · 10-03-2012, 07:57 PM

Replacing Sanchez and his 49% completion rate with one that has a 21% completion rate?

BillJasper · 10-03-2012, 08:01 PM

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Replacing Sanchez and his 49% completion rate with one that has a 21% completion rate?

Maybe you bypass Tebow and go with Greg McElroy?

Danny · 10-03-2012, 08:05 PM

I don't get the "Sanchez is mediocre argument. He sucks, in the regular season has has consistently been one of the worst regular starting QBs out there. Or if you dont like statistics, watch him play, you can tell he sucks by doing that too.

cuervo72 · 10-03-2012, 08:13 PM

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Said it before elsewhere - Sanchez is no more than a younger Rex Grossman.

Still applies.

BillJasper · 10-03-2012, 08:23 PM

Looks like there's more players on the field than fans in the stands at tonight's UFL game.

It must suck to be a vendor there...

bhlloy · 10-03-2012, 08:53 PM

Considering the players haven't got paid so far this season and it's starting to look like they might not get to week three, can you blame them?

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 10-03-2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Maybe you bypass Tebow and go with Greg McElroy?

idk. i think the read option can work in the nfl (by work i mean score 10-20 points a game and hope your defense wins turnovers) but not in ny and not under these circumstances

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackadar

Even if he drops trou and dry-humps a cheerleader...

Doesn't dropping trou preclude dry-humping?

Blackadar · 10-04-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

Doesn't dropping trou preclude dry-humping?

I figured he still had his tighty whities on. Or is Rex more of a boxer kind of guy?

10-03-2012, 09:11 AM	#561
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Is there actually round the clock Tebow coverage on ESPN? I haven't watched in forever SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-03-2012, 09:44 AM	#564
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I don't know what I would like to see more, the disappearance of Rex Ryan or Tim Tebow. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

10-03-2012, 12:46 PM	#568
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Without Revis or Holmes, I think you stick with Sanchez. This is the time you'll find out what he's really made of and if he's the long-term solution at QB. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

10-03-2012, 08:23 PM	#579
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Looks like there's more players on the field than fans in the stands at tonight's UFL game. It must suck to be a vendor there... __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it. Last edited by BillJasper : 10-03-2012 at 08:24 PM.

10-01-2012, 10:19 PM	#551
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	You know. I'm fairly certain there's a lot of Bears fans there tonight.

10-01-2012, 10:22 PM	#552
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	How the fuck do you lose Marshall?

10-01-2012, 10:23 PM	#553
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Well, it probably helped that the TE was blocking the corner and the safety before the ball was thrown

10-02-2012, 12:21 AM	#554
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	I entered tonight's game with an untouchable 97-point lead in fantasy... my opponent, behind Cutler/Marshall/Bears/Gould, put up 67. (It was close enough that, at one point, a 80+ yard TD pass to Marshall would have tied the game.) Pretty solid showing from the Bears.

10-02-2012, 07:56 PM	#555
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Sanchez is having a pretty good year, he is ahead of both Tannehill and Weeden in QB rating.

10-03-2012, 08:47 AM	#559
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	just think of all the electricity a tebow/shonn greene backfiled will produce! 1.5 yards and a cloud of dust!

10-03-2012, 12:18 PM	#567
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Look, I'm not trying to be anti or pro Sanchez, but his extension was nothing more than a glorified cap out of the remainder of his rookie deal so that they could free up a bunch of 2012 space. He can get benched easily.

10-03-2012, 12:48 PM	#569
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I'm a big Sanchez fan but just put him out of his misery already. He was always a guy who was going to need a good situation to be an effective NFL QB and the Jets are about as far from that as you can get. That team is fucked either way but if you don't have any WR and you still aren't willing to design the gameplay around Sanchez's strengths after four years, you might as well get what Tebow is going to give you, which is an improved running game and the element of surprise when you do pass it. Right now that offense as a traditional offense is a train wreck no matter who the QB is

10-03-2012, 05:55 PM	#572
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	who's decision was it to bring in tebow? johnson, ryan or sparano? i'm guessing johnson since he was the driving force behind the favre signing. i'm sure sparano tacitly approved but... it's such a double bind. everyone saw this coming

10-03-2012, 07:57 PM	#575
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Replacing Sanchez and his 49% completion rate with one that has a 21% completion rate?

10-03-2012, 08:05 PM	#577
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I don't get the "Sanchez is mediocre argument. He sucks, in the regular season has has consistently been one of the worst regular starting QBs out there. Or if you dont like statistics, watch him play, you can tell he sucks by doing that too.

10-03-2012, 08:53 PM	#580
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Considering the players haven't got paid so far this season and it's starting to look like they might not get to week three, can you blame them?

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