Heh. This ain't your daddy's FOF2K7.

[Ben E Lou]

I just noticed that my FOOL team has gone four consecutive seasons without a 1000-yard receiver. In fact, there hasn't even been a 900-yard receiver during that time. And yet over that time we are 40-24 during the regular season with 3 playoff appearances, 2 bye weeks earned, and 2 Bowl appearances.

Details here: FOOL: Oakland Raiders History

[Alf]

Well you had 3 800+ yards receivers

[Ben E Lou]

Eh, In FOF2K7, if I had 3 800+ yard receivers it was because one was like 1600, one 1200, and the TE had 800.

[corbes]

I was impressed that this year's champion was 28th in passing but 1st in defense.

[Pyser]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I just noticed that my FOOL team has gone four consecutive seasons without a 1000-yard receiver. In fact, there hasn't even been a 900-yard receiver during that time. And yet over that time we are 40-24 during the regular season with 3 playoff appearances, 2 bye weeks earned, and 2 Bowl appearances.

Details here: FOOL: Oakland Raiders History

very refreshing that running can win games now.

i've also enjoyed the semi-secret of people still living by ben's fof2k7 rules. a little overpaying for wr's, but to me, MASSIVELY overpaying te's. they just arent difference makers, at least compared to what people pay them.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by Pyser

very refreshing that running can win games now.

i've also enjoyed the semi-secret of people still living by ben's fof2k7 rules. a little overpaying for wr's, but to me, MASSIVELY overpaying te's. they just arent difference makers, at least compared to what people pay them.

It's hard to quantify how much difference they make in the running game, but I'm not sure I fully agree with you in the passing game. I'd say that a true stud receiving TE can be a difference-maker, but it seems that it takes more talent than it did in FOF2K7 for a TE to be a "true stud receiving TE."

[Julio Riddols]

The year we won our title, our TE had a career year and finished with 900+ yards and 14 TD's. I think he was a huge difference in that season. I feel like this version is a lot better at simulating the volatility that a real league sees year to year. I've had numerous players who I expected certain types of performances from who have failed to live up to expectations for one reason or another. At the same time, I have seen a good deal of guys come from out of nowhere to really change things for a season or three before fading back into obscurity. In past FOF's, I never felt like there were players that really mirrored the Peyton Hillis types, the Oronde Gadsden types, the Steve Beuerlein types. This version does that extremely well.

[Sharkn20]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

The year we won our title, our TE had a career year and finished with 900+ yards and 14 TD's. I think he was a huge difference in that season. I feel like this version is a lot better at simulating the volatility that a real league sees year to year. I've had numerous players who I expected certain types of performances from who have failed to live up to expectations for one reason or another. At the same time, I have seen a good deal of guys come from out of nowhere to really change things for a season or three before fading back into obscurity. In past FOF's, I never felt like there were players that really mirrored the Peyton Hillis types, the Oronde Gadsden types, the Steve Beuerlein types. This version does that extremely well.

Do you think that volatility is a performance in week to week or year to year thing instead of a big change in the ratings during the Pre-2??

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Sharkn20

Do you think that volatility is a performance in week to week or year to year thing instead of a big change in the ratings during the Pre-2??

I think it is a little bit of both. I ran the same exact offense this season as I did the year my team won the title, and we had the same exact starting lineup. They were a year older, but the change in ratings overall was minimal.. Yet the results were drastically different. You'd maybe figure cohesion would make up for the slight drop in ratings, and randomness would also play a role - But the difference year to year and player to player was pretty significant.

2019 Colts

2020 Colts

If you look within the numbers, my top WR had a much worse season despite catching more balls on the same number of targets. His rating was unchanged and he was catching passes from the same QB.

The QB in question was actually benched more than a few times due to poor play by the AI coach in the second season. His OVR was 10 points higher, but his passer rating dropped by over 20 points, he threw for 1200 fewer yards on only 90 fewer attempts, and he threw 19 fewer TD passes.

My top RB was 14 points worse ratings wise, but put up a better overall season despite averaging .3 fewer yards per attempt.

My OL was quite a bit better in pass blocking, but slightly worse in run blocking.

The TE who had a career year in 2019 was essentially average in 2020 despite only losing 1 point in OVR.

So, despite better overall defense and despite having the same cast offensively running the same game plan, the team was significantly less efficient in 2020 than they were in 2019. The 2020 offense even converted a higher percentage on 3rd down, which is also notable (and somewhat strange).

[Sharkn20]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I think it is a little bit of both. I ran the same exact offense this season as I did the year my team won the title, and we had the same exact starting lineup. They were a year older, but the change in ratings overall was minimal.. Yet the results were drastically different. You'd maybe figure cohesion would make up for the slight drop in ratings, and randomness would also play a role - But the difference year to year and player to player was pretty significant.

2019 Colts

2020 Colts

If you look within the numbers, my top WR had a much worse season despite catching more balls on the same number of targets. His rating was unchanged and he was catching passes from the same QB.

The QB in question was actually benched more than a few times due to poor play by the AI coach in the second season. His OVR was 10 points higher, but his passer rating dropped by over 20 points, he threw for 1200 fewer yards on only 90 fewer attempts, and he threw 19 fewer TD passes.

My top RB was 14 points worse ratings wise, but put up a better overall season despite averaging .3 fewer yards per attempt.

My OL was quite a bit better in pass blocking, but slightly worse in run blocking.

The TE who had a career year in 2019 was essentially average in 2020 despite only losing 1 point in OVR.

So, despite better overall defense and despite having the same cast offensively running the same game plan, the team was significantly less efficient in 2020 than they were in 2019. The 2020 offense even converted a higher percentage on 3rd down, which is also notable (and somewhat strange).

Really interesting... Maybe the coordinators changed? The SOS??

I also thought that volatility could be player performance between weeks rather than changed ratings drastically... Now that theory makes more sense. What was the volatility of that WR??