The Trump Presidency – 2016

[ISiddiqui]

Big news! But he hung out with so many people who have had Covid, it was only a matter of time.

I wonder if it wasn't for being so close to election they would have announced it at all.

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[BillyMadison]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Big news! But he hung out with so many people who have had Covid, it was only a matter of time.

I wonder if it wasn't for being so close to election they would have announced it at all.

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They ummm, were trying to hide that Hope Hicks tested positive. Only because journalists broke the story did it come out...

Kaitlan Collins points out on CNN the only reason anyone knows Hope Hicks has COVID is bc reporters broke the news. The WH did not release the information. The WH withheld this information. And exposed people.

— Amanda Carpenter (@amandacarpenter) October 2, 2020

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by molson

Can't help but wonder if it's just a sympathy play. Then he'll "overcome" it and show how strong he is, and that people who don't are losers and cowards.

This seems like the obvious play. He will most likely have a less-than-serious case and there's no way that's going to cause him to take some kind of major 180, rather than leaning into the only dog-eared playbook he has. He can't spin hoax anymore, after half the West Wing has had it, but they can still work with some version of "it's just the flu!"

[molson]

Sidenote, I woke up this morning, saw it was October 1, and just had a feeling that some crazy shit is going to go down this month. (Not much of a leap in 2020, I know).

[BillyMadison]

Originally Posted by molson

Can't help but wonder if it's just a sympathy play. Then he'll "overcome" it and show how strong he is, and that people who don't are losers and cowards.

If you think this helps Trump in any way, you are mistaken. His campaign is torpedoing and if anything it highlights more and more of his lies, hypocrisy, idiots and contradictions. I mean, just 2 days ago he was making fun of Joe Biden for wearing a mask. His whole inner circle photographed yesterday getting of AF1 without masks... Then he tests positive. His campaign is fucked and he knows it. Just look at the tweet. He didn't tweet that. Notice he called it COVID-19 and not Chinavirus. They took his phone away from him. He's probably fuming. I can't wait for the inside tell-all from this night in a few months...

Its preposterous to think they gave him COVID purposely or that this was by design. Take your tin-foil hat off.

[kingfc22]

Buhahahhhahahahahahahahahhaahha

[PilotMan]

Fuck trump. I hope he's got hemorrhoids and the worst case of diarrhea imaginable.

[PilotMan]

Not to mention that this takes him out of sight for 2 weeks with 32 days until the election.

[Galaril]

And the DOW futures are down 500 points. That is bad since it is not a one to one compared to the DOW in daily trading usually. We might just might see a gigantic drop in the market tomorrow in a 2000+ drop between Trump getting Covid and the unemployment numbers coming out which are expected not to be great. This is a double punch in the gut for this country. Good luck to us all.

[BillyMadison]

Originally Posted by Galaril

And the DOW futures are down 500 points. That is bad since it is not a one to one compared to the DOW in daily trading usually. We might just might see a gigantic drop in the market tomorrow in a 2000+ drop between Trump getting Covid and the unemployment numbers coming out which are expected not to be great. This is a double punch in the gut for this country. Good luck to us all.

Ahh America.... President contracts COVID-19 and we're worried about our stocks.

(I'm kidding, it's a joke. I checked too.)

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

If you think this helps Trump in any way, you are mistaken. His campaign is torpedoing and if anything it highlights more and more of his lies, hypocrisy, idiots and contradictions. I mean, just 2 days ago he was making fun of Joe Biden for wearing a mask. His whole inner circle photographed yesterday getting of AF1 without masks... Then he tests positive. His campaign is fucked and he knows it. Just look at the tweet. He didn't tweet that. Notice he called it COVID-19 and not Chinavirus. They took his phone away from him. He's probably fuming. I can't wait for the inside tell-all from this night in a few months...

Its preposterous to think they gave him COVID purposely or that this was by design. Take your tin-foil hat off.

[SirFozzie]

It seems almost like we're in the end-stage of the Trump Presidency: The Movie.

You can almost see it play out on the silver screen. Trump Unhinged at the debate, all his election aides wincing and looking away as Trump keeps interrupting.

When the one person who tried to tell trump it backfired on him, someone glares at him and says "Kid, if enough people tell you the sky is green, you'll believe it is too. Reality is what we say it is. That's how we got through all this."

Then, as the scene fades to black, white lines appear on the screen. "President Donald Trump tested positive for COVID-19 on October 2nd, 2020. Shortly after losing the 2020 presidential election, he passed away on November Xth at the age of 74."

Honestly, I hope he has a mild case (is there a mild case when you're mid seventies), gets to see himself lose big in November, and then all the other stuff comes crashing down on him

[BillyMadison]

I think the worse part about all of this for the President will be that everyone will be pointing out that he has a preexisting condition: he's obese. Already seen this a few times. I bet he hates it.

[molson]

He is in several high-risk groups — elderly, obese, low-income.

(I stole that one, but it made me chuckle).

[CrimsonFox]

Trump has Covid

he finally got covid

[CrimsonFox]

Luckily he has all the hydroxychloroquine he can eat

[CrimsonFox]

hmmm unfortunately that means Joe Biden and Chris Wallace all might have it now.

[CrimsonFox]

Little part of me feels this is a ploy to get out of doing any more debates...or maybe even to pull out of the race.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

The Melania tapes are out.

She is who we thought she was.

yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeah I listened to those earlier...I can't say I...uh....I...I just don;t know...I got nothing.

*mouth agape*

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

(is there a mild case when you're mid seventies),

I can’t recall if I mentioned it here, or just to the FOxL crew, but when I was in my hometown this summer and got together for an outdoor gathering with some old friends, one of them backed out at the very last minute because his wife woke up that morning with a fever. It turned out that both of them got it. She is in her mid-60s, and he is 72. He never had to stay overnight at the hospital, but he did need a couple of visits and he was feeling pretty rough for almost 3 weeks. He is in*much* better physical condition that Trump. (He’s a pastor in a semi-rural area, very outdoorsy, frequently helps his congregants with yard/farm work, he and his wife redid their entire rather large back patio and deck themselves last summer, etc.) I wouldn’t call two hospital visits and 2-3 weeks down as “mild,” per se, but theoretically, if he were a hyper-partisan he certainly could have spinned it as “just the flu. I got better.” No doubt if Trump survives he will.

(My friend is the only over-70 person person I know personally who got it and survived. The other three were all probably more obese than Trump.)

[Ben E Lou]

Dola:

It speaks volumes about the utter untrustworthiness and moral bankruptcy of this man and his administration that the possibility that the President of the United States is lying about this so he can ‘recover’ and ‘prove’ it’s just the flu before the election is being discussed among non tinfoil-fat wearing people.

[stevew]

Since it's 2020, Biden probably caught it from Trump.

[Antmeister]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Dola:

It speaks volumes about the utter untrustworthiness and moral bankruptcy of this man and his administration that the possibility that the President of the United States is lying about this so he can ‘recover’ and ‘prove’ it’s just the flu before the election is being discussed among non tinfoil-fat wearing people.

This. He lies so much and has talked for months about having a "vaccine" before the election so I am still waiting for details about Hope Hicks and any other people infected before I can trust the information.

[Ben E Lou]

If one of the nominees were to die and be replaced before the election, what happens to the early votes cast for the original nominee?

[Brian Swartz]

I don't think there's a mechanism for replacing someone that quickly. I think the votes would go to their VP, and then they'd have to get a replacement VP approved by Congress or somesuch.

[GrantDawg]

They can't replace the candidate on the ballots at this point. Pence would become President until January, and the Republican electors would choose a replacement, if they won of course. They should choose who the party selects as a replacement (that would most likely be Pence). They can just choose anyone, though.

If the President (or President-Elect if it were Biden that won) died after the election, then the Vice President or Vice President elect would take the job according to the 20th amendment. It only gets murky if the death comes before the election with no time to change the ballots.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

They can't replace the candidate on the ballots at this point. Pence would become President until January, and the Republican electors would choose a replacement, if they won of course. They should choose who the party selects as a replacement (that would most likely be Pence). They can just choose anyone, though.

If the President (or President-Elect if it were Biden that won) died after the election, then the Vice President or Vice President elect would take the job according to the 20th amendment. It only gets murky if the death comes before the election with no time to change the ballots.

I was specifically thinking of a scenario where Biden gets it and dies in late October when millions of people have already voted for him. Does team Trump file a lawsuit saying "they voted for Biden, not Harris! Trump Wins!" I agree that common sense says that the Biden votes would go to Harris, but do we have laws on the books that specify that a dead Presidential candidate's votes automatically go to his or her VP nominee, or do votes for a dead person simply not count?

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I was specifically thinking of a scenario where Biden gets it and dies in late October when millions of people have already voted for him. Does team Trump file a lawsuit saying "they voted for Biden, not Harris! Trump Wins!" I agree that common sense says that the Biden votes would go to Harris, but do we have laws on the books that specify that a dead Presidential candidate's votes automatically go to his or her VP nominee, or do votes for a dead person simply not count?

No, they do not. The Democratic electors would then choose the winner. The party is supposed to tell them who to choose, but many states don't have laws that bind them.
Trump wouldn't necessarily win a challenge in court in that case. What he could do try is have red state legislatures pick non-faithful electors that then vote for Trump instead. That might not stand up in court depending on how the states election laws are written.
Of course, they could not get the required number of electors to elect anybody, and it would go to congress.

[GrantDawg]

By the numbers:

Every person infected with Covid is a step backwards in our effort to slow pandemic and reopen society. A 74-year-old has approximately 3% chance of death, 10-15% chance of severe illness. Higher in males, obesity. Remdesivir, monoclonal ab, convalescent serum unproven, may help.

— Dr. Tom Frieden (@DrTomFrieden) October 2, 2020

President Trump is going to receive the best around-the-clock care. Good chance he will survive this with little complications.

[Edward64]

October surprise #1.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Edward64

October surprise #1.

Are we really that surprised though?

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Dola:

It speaks volumes about the utter untrustworthiness and moral bankruptcy of this man and his administration that the possibility that the President of the United States is lying about this so he can ‘recover’ and ‘prove’ it’s just the flu before the election is being discussed among non tinfoil-fat wearing people.

Honestly, this is the most uncomfortable part of the day so far. I, like everyone else have watched us move to this place every step of the way. I have become way more cynical than I was four years ago. But even I am shocked at the place we have reached.

[albionmoonlight]

RT There's an E-6B Mercury off the east coast near DC. I looked because I would expect them to pop up if he tests positive. It's a message to the small group of adversaries with SLBMs and ICBMs. pic.twitter.com/3ta9PmPxZD

— Tim Hogan (@TimInHonolulu) October 2, 2020

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Are we really that surprised though?

Unfortunately, no. (And I do think this is a real diagnosis).

I am concerned about Biden. You would think they would have woke him up and given him a test right away and gotten a result in 1-2 hours or so. The lack of news there is very concerning.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Unfortunately, no. (And I do think this is a real diagnosis).

I am concerned about Biden. You would think they would have woke him up and given him a test right away and gotten a result in 1-2 hours or so. The lack of news there is very concerning.

Well, he is Sleepy Joe.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Well, he is Sleepy Joe.

Had a chuckle.

FWIW, debate performance notwithstanding, a Pence-Biden will be a closer race.

Pence will retain Trump's core (where else are they going to go?) and be much more acceptable to the moderate right/independents than Trump.

[AlexB]

On the plus side, assuming Trump is OK to debate, it is now possible (likely?) that the next debate is virtual, so muting the non-speaker will be simple

[Edward64]

Guess I wasn't the only one.

Does Joe Biden Have Covid-19? Everyone Has the Same Query After Donald Trump Tests Positive

Following reports of Donald Trump testing positive for coronavirus, Google Trends results show that people have been looking up if Joe Biden is getting tested too. Take a look:

[albionmoonlight]

Did they get close to each other? I didn't watch the actual debate.

[albionmoonlight]

New: In light of the president’s positive test, former Vice President Joe Biden is expected to get tested for coronavirus this morning, a source familiar with his plans tells @jamiegangel

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) October 2, 2020

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Did they get close to each other? I didn't watch the actual debate.

Not that I saw but who knows what happened in the backstage or between their family members, posse etc.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Did they get close to each other? I didn't watch the actual debate.

Not really, They didn't shake hands, and the podiums where more than 6 feet apart.

[Flasch186]

From a voting perspective I think that the people that were screaming Hoax might have to revisit that philosophy now right? I think that there may be .25% or .5% that will view DT as weaker because he contracted it and may turn off the vote for him which would be a ridiculous reason but nothing shocks me anymore.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

Ahh America.... President contracts COVID-19 and we're worried about our stocks.

(I'm kidding, it's a joke. I checked too.)

Yeah I frankly don’t have much skill n in the game on the market here days but know that is why lots of people vote R so was mentioning it.

[Lathum]

I know some of you follow predictit, and movement over there?

I know a lot of off shore books have taken the line down.

[Jas_lov]

I doubt it helps him in the election. If anything it hurts him because he looks even dumber for not wearing a mask and making fun of Biden for wearing one. And Trump doesn't like appearing weak so I don't think it's made up. Hopefully he recovers with no/mild symptoms and it's a wake up call for his supporters to take it seriously. Wear a mask!

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I doubt it helps him in the election. If anything it hurts him because he looks even dumber for not wearing a mask and making fun of Biden for wearing one. And Trump doesn't like appearing weak so I don't think it's made up. Hopefully he recovers with no/mild symptoms and it's a wake up call for his supporters to take it seriously. Wear a mask!

The thing is that if he recovers with no/mild symptoms that will rally his base. they will be shouting "SEE, IT IS JUST A COLD!"

And no one will wear a mask.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by tarcone

The thing is that if he recovers with no/mild symptoms that will rally his base. they will be shouting "SEE, IT IS JUST A COLD!"

And no one will wear a mask.

Exactly. That's why I question the validity of this. He comes back healthy in 2 weeks and its going to be a cacophony of "open the country!"

[Ben E Lou]

Sadly, we find ourselves in a space where perhaps the worst thing for the country's overall rebound from the pandemic would be for him to have an easy recovery. It'll be further "evidence" that it's "just the flu" for those already inclined to think that way.


EDIT: Yeah, tarcone beat me to it.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

Ahh America.... President contracts COVID-19 and we're worried about our stocks.

(I'm kidding, it's a joke. I checked too.)

Yeah I frankly I don’t have much skin in the game on the market these days but know that is why lots of people vote R so was mentioning it.