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Join Date: Nov 2002
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There's a story today that Hegseth killed a promotion of a black woman to lead DC because Trump doesn't want to have photos standing next to a black woman.
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#252 |
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Join Date: Oct 2020
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Iran hacked into Kash Patel's personal emails, which I assume are all just brainrot memes and almost nudes of barely legal women.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
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He is not being racist or sexist. He is just doing his job in accordance with his religious beliefs and asking him to do otherwise is a hate crime. Or so I hear.
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#254 |
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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A big attack on the US airfield in Saudia Arbia has left at least one refueling jet destroyed, three to five severely damaged, and about a dozen military personnel injured, some very seriously.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2946724.html
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This seems to be in response to Israel (and the U.S.?) broke the agreement and hit Iran's power plants and nuclear power facilities. The Houthis are ready to play their part in the war. AND FINALLY... Iran have decided to make this personal as in they told workers of Israeli and American companies in the Middle East that it is time for them to leave the Middle East or be considered an extension of their government in the same way we seem to be making Iranians civilians an extension of their government. My guess is this will not be limited to the Middle East for too much longer. Are we safe yet?
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"Do not be indifferent in the face of historical lies. Do not be indifferent when you see the past being exploited for the needs of contemporary politics. Do not be indifferent when any minority suffers discrimination. For it's the essence of democracy that the majority wields the power, but at the same time, the rights of the minority must be respected." Marian Turski- former prisoner of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration and death camp |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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Who gets the blame for this, Hegseth or Caine?
Trump's going to want someone to take the fall.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
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Neither. It will be the fault of Obama, H. Clinton, Biden and Harris in whatever order fits for that day or night. Since it is Iran, you will get sprinkles of Carter every so often.
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"Do not be indifferent in the face of historical lies. Do not be indifferent when you see the past being exploited for the needs of contemporary politics. Do not be indifferent when any minority suffers discrimination. For it's the essence of democracy that the majority wields the power, but at the same time, the rights of the minority must be respected." Marian Turski- former prisoner of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration and death camp |
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Location: Chicago, IL
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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Trump let the cat out of the bag and admitted the Ford was hit by Iranian missiles.
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World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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He was talking about the attack on Venezuela. I know it is hard to follow the thread of his delusional ramblings. Meanwhile, there were three refueling tankers that were destroyed on that attack on the SA base, and an AWAC's planes was also damaged. That is probably the single costliest attack on a US base since WW2. |
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Just to show the actual context of what he was talking about.
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Hegseth is forcing the Army Chief of Staff to retire immediately. That is not a good sign on the eve of a possible "boots on the ground" scenario. It almost certainly means he balked at their plan.
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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I saw pics of the AWACS. It was effectively destroyed as well. Essentially ripped in half. The fact that it was sitting out in the open, not covered, and it didn't appear that we had even been moving it was arrogance. It was a sitting duck and I'm sure Russia gave Iran the satellite footage of where to strike targets. Last edited by Atocep : 04-02-2026 at 04:27 PM. |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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If I'm high up in the military, I'd probably just retire and not have this abomination on my record. They're going to get slaughtered. |
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: homeless in NJ
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They are also being told to strike civilian targets and this administration will surely hang them out to dry. These guys don't want to go to jail for Trump and Hegseth. |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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I don't think our military has ever had an issue with striking civilian targets. It is sort of our thing. I think this is just generals telling Trump that a ground invasion is insane and can't be done. No one wants to be the general in the history books who got crushed. |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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Supposedly, the firings, there were more than one, were mostly about the chain of command refusing to go along with Hegseth and deny promotions to women and/or black officers.
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World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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It looks like they are not captured yet. The US has an search currently going, and Oran has offered $2 million dollars for their capture. Notice the difference going on between this and all the other supposed reports of planes being shot down. Verifiable pictures of the wreckage, easily identifiable search for the pilots. That's how you can knkw dozens of planes haven't been shot down over Iran. When it happens it becomes hard to deny for long. |
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Join Date: Nov 2013
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I hope the downed pilots steal a F-14 from Iran and escape with it. Maybe shoot down a couple 5th Gen fighters while they are at it.
One can hope.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
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Well, there is a bit of merit basis in that... I guess.. Right? Right?
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"Do not be indifferent in the face of historical lies. Do not be indifferent when you see the past being exploited for the needs of contemporary politics. Do not be indifferent when any minority suffers discrimination. For it's the essence of democracy that the majority wields the power, but at the same time, the rights of the minority must be respected." Marian Turski- former prisoner of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration and death camp |
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#272 |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
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Our strategy appears to be to keep firing and non-promoting women and minorities until Iran agrees that our military is so white dude awesome that it just gives up out of fear.
Bold strategy. Let's see if it works. |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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It's impossible to get credible information anymore, so who knows how true this is, but I've read that Iran might have also shot down an A-10 today.
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World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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That's confirmed. They were able to rescue both pilots and the crew of the A-10 (which went down over the Straight). Choppers that went in for the rescue took fire but got back safely. It has been a very busy day for a war that is already won. Last edited by GrantDawg : 04-03-2026 at 03:08 PM. |
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#275 |
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World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Just thinking: F-15e hit, most likely flying low during the day, which is unusual. That's a close air support kind of operation. Then the A-10 going down, again showing close air support hitting ground targets. Those A-10's are flying tanks. If it got hit with enough to knock it out (it did at least get to safe air space) then it must have stuck it's nose in a hornets nest. Now a call in for the whole national security team to the White House. That sounds like they were softening targets to drop some troops in.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Chicagoland
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It's also possible the national security team assembling at the White House is about the missing pilot. If the pilot ends up dead or, worse, in Iranian hands, even this incompetent administration knows it's got a PR disaster on its hands.
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#277 |
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North Carolina
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Pilot rescued!
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#278 |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Winnipeg, MB
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Praise Allah!
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World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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The mission sounds insane. Make-shift air strip where two C-130's land and then gets their front gear stuck so they couldn't take off again. After a few hours they sent in three AFSOC Dash-8s to get the people out and had to scuttle the C-130's and the four MH-6 Little Birds (small helicopters that were carried in on the C-130's). All the while close air support with drones and aircraft kept anyone from coming up the mountain.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Morgan Hill, CA
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Mission is insane. One, it never should have been needed in the first place. Why are we at war again? Two, how many millions of dollars did we just self destruct?
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World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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The number I saw was $300 million..Probably more really when you consider ordinance. Last edited by GrantDawg : 04-05-2026 at 11:56 AM. |
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#282 |
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World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Just a couple of things to think on here. When it became obvious of the military operations in the area, why didn't Iran fly forces in to capture the pilot/counter the special forces incursion? It's pretty clear they couldn't. Either they have no helios left or they are afraid to fly them. Secondly, why didn't they shell the area with artillery, or even at least mortars? My guess is they couldn't get them close enough to set up without being taken out. If you don't believe the US has air superiority over the region, Iran's actions certainly shows they believe US does.
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#283 |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Chicagoland
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#284 |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Chicagoland
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Iran's super mountainous, GD, what makes you think they could easily move artillery / mortars into position? And why would you want to, if your goal was to capture the U.S. pilot alive?
There are gradations of air superiority. It's not 100%, clearly, otherwise the various planes that have been shot down wouldn't have been shot down. But it's not nothing, either. Iran's air force has also been well known to be nominal for ages, a function of sanctions meaning that getting spare parts is basically impossible (sanctions! the work!). So, achieving air superiority isn't the flex the U.S. thinks it is (and, again, we're clearly not at 100%). |
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World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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Of course there is gradation of air superiority, and I have never questioned that. Others have, and definitely the bots that feed Iranian propaganda does, or don't you know they are shooting down planes every day and/or they are just holding back the their "real" defenses to when it will count? They have hidden all their numerous planes and helicopters and were just wanting for US troops to land in Iran, where they will all be slaughtered. As for artillery/mortars, that's my point. Iran either couldn't get close enough to use them, which is 9 to 13 miles. It looks like solely through close air support no Iranian fighters or equipment could get anywhere near the area. If they could, they absolutely would have hit the area hard. Capturing the pilot would have become secondary the second US troops and aircraft hit the ground. Then US casualties would have been the main goal. In the end, it wasn't the perfect mission. The lost of equipment would not be considered optimal. This seemed like a live fire training run on the attempt to pull nuclear material out, and if they couldn't get the C-130's up on that attempt, it would be a complete failure. For what the goal here was, it is a success. Saving the pilot and getting out without casualties is a big success. |
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It sounds insane because it is very likely made up. |
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#287 |
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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CBS is reporting 15 Americans were injured in a drone strike on a Kuwait air base.
Last edited by GrantDawg : 04-06-2026 at 05:33 PM. Reason: Misread and corrected |
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#288 |
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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"The Iranian Ministry of Sports and Youth has called for all “youths, athletes, artists, students, and members of NGOs/volunteer organisations” to form human chains around the country’s power plants and energy facilities tomorrow. (Nour News)"
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#289 |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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I mean I would, but I've already got something going on and I can't make it. Good luck, though.
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#290 |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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Trump says he'd like to take all of Iran's oil but the American people want to see us come home. He said we'd make a ton of money but the people of the United States just won't understand.
Who would make a lot of money? Billionaires? Yeah, the American people unfortunately don't want to see people die so billionaires can make more money. |
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#291 |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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It appears the shit is hitting the fan tonight. Iran struck Saudi oil infrastructure hard. US/Israel hit Iran oil infrastructure hard.
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#292 |
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World Champion Mis-speller
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Covington, Ga.
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I'm really afraid of what is going to happen tonight. Trump can be all bluster, but his "take the whole country out in one night" stuff makes me afraid this going to be more than just bombing.
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#293 |
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Join Date: Oct 2020
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Democrats in Congress need to speak with the military and do what needs to be done. There's no other way to go about it.
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: homeless in NJ
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This is what the 25th amendment was designed for. Dude is totally off his rocker at this point.
How does the GOP not realize this is going to cost them far more than if they impeach and remove him now? |
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#295 |
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: homeless in NJ
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I think a big part of the problem is that Iran isn't hitting the US, but other nations in the region and Trump just doesn't care about anyone or anything so it doesn't matter to him that allies in the nation are pissed at us.
He also likely doesn't grasp the effects of an energy crisis because he has no basis of reality for how the average family lies. His handlers are also likely telling him everything is going awesome and everyone is coming up to them with tears in their eyes telling them how much they support him. |
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#296 |
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Join Date: Oct 2020
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Because they don't plan on having open or real elections. And who is going to invoke the 25th Amendment? They're all Christo-fascists who all think UFOs are demons and we're in the end times, except Trump, who doesn't care and is using this to get obscene wealth and power.
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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Fuck that. That is a feature not a bug. The billionaires are going to buy everything up when everyone else can't afford anything. Repubs/Trumptards are full bore for this because they hate everything including themselves...and they don't want anybody to get the better of them...the ones in government are just grifting for their own gain while letting the stupids gloat about how things needed to be done. Trump proves god doesn't exist and pretty much that America which had some sort of standard to hide behind now doesn't exist for anyone that isn't rich as shit.
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#298 |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Perhaps the only good thing about this is the GCC getting absolutely owned for trusting the United States. MBS looks as dumb as dogshit and don't get me started on Qatar. Total marks across the board. I think it's a wise strategy by Iran. You can't defeat the U.S. militarily but you can strategically. Showing the GCC that the United States doesn't give a shit about them and only shows fealty to Israel will likely cause massive changes going forward. And they also know that $200 oil is not feasible for any politicians in America. While I think a ground invasion would be a disaster and costly, I also don't think it will sway public sentiment in the United States as much as the increase in oil and other materials. The media is largely captured and will not report negative news from a ground invasion. |
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#300 |
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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I'm afraid I'm turning into a 9/11 truther now. There's no way the pilot covered 100 miles in a day. Maybe he ejected a lot further away from the crash site than they've claimed? The whole Good Friday/Easter Sunday timeframe had my spidey senses twitching.
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