FoF2K4

[maximus]

I haven't bought the sim but I am seriously considering buying it soon. The one thing that sells me in the FoF series is the option to import college drafts and its strong sim engine. However, there are a few things that I still would like to see in the series. Without going into much depth I will mention one option I hope to see in future versions. I would like to see an option for future compatablity with F0F2K4 and its future incarnations. I would like to see stats and league/team/player history to be imported into futrue versions.

What do you guys think the chances are of this happening? Thanks in advance.

[Sloan]

I know Jim hasn't completely said no to this idea before, but I don't think we'll ever see it.

I don't see there being a large enough demand for something that would seem to take a lot of proramming time.

[maximus]

Originally Posted by Sloan

I know Jim hasn't completely said no to this idea before, but I don't think we'll ever see it.

I don't see there being a large enough demand for something that would seem to take a lot of proramming time.

From what I understand, he could just use HTML output for the stats and league history and then they could be imported in the "newer" version. Again, this is based on what I know about programming(which isn't much).

[FBPro]

It would be a nice feature but in many cases the reason why "I think" it hasn't been included is the fact that each version typically incorporates new data, ratings or stats which were not previously part of the series. I've had each version and the lack of this has not lessened my enjoyment. For my personal perspective I want to start each year with the current real players and go from there and importing from previous versions wouldn't lend itself to this IMO.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by maximus

From what I understand, he could just use HTML output for the stats and league history and then they could be imported in the "newer" version. Again, this is based on what I know about programming(which isn't much).

Once you simply output to HTML and don't retain it in binary mode (or a database), you've basically limited yourself with what you can do with it.

Ok, say all you do is output draft history to an HTML file, and don't retain it in a binary file. If you wanted to add something to it or do something different, you'e SOL as far as backwards compatability.

For example, say you want to add a search function that goes through the draft history to count up the number of players drafted from each college. If it is stored in a binary file, all you do is simply go record by record in the file and do your counting. If you stored everything in an HTML file, you'll have to create a function to parse the information in the HTML file to extract the colleges. You've basically added a load of work for what is basically a simple function (counting draftees from colleges).

Say you want to change the way it looks. All you have to do is modifiy the dialog box or form when working off a binary file. For HTML files, if you want to change the way they look, you have to parse all of the information out of the HTML file and reconstruct it.

What I'm getting at (very long windedly ) is that once you make the decision to simply export everything to text/HTML files and not retain it in binary or a database, you're stuck with what you create (unless you're insane enough to want to do a ton of work. )

[maximus]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Once you simply output to HTML and don't retain it in binary mode (or a database), you've basically limited yourself with what you can do with it.

Ok, say all you do is output draft history to an HTML file, and don't retain it in a binary file. If you wanted to add something to it or do something different, you'e SOL as far as backwards compatability.

For example, say you want to add a search function that goes through the draft history to count up the number of players drafted from each college. If it is stored in a binary file, all you do is simply go record by record in the file and do your counting. If you stored everything in an HTML file, you'll have to create a function to parse the information in the HTML file to extract the colleges. You've basically added a load of work for what is basically a simple function (counting draftees from colleges).

Say you want to change the way it looks. All you have to do is modifiy the dialog box or form when working off a binary file. For HTML files, if you want to change the way they look, you have to parse all of the information out of the HTML file and reconstruct it.

What I'm getting at (very long windedly ) is that once you make the decision to simply export everything to text/HTML files and not retain it in binary or a database, you're stuck with what you create (unless you're insane enough to want to do a ton of work. )

Hmm, OK. Thanks. I didn't realize that all of that needs to take place. Well, I can only hope that there is a way. Thanks for explaining that though, sabotai.

[JasonC23]

Originally Posted by Sloan

I know Jim hasn't completely said no to this idea before, but I don't think we'll ever see it.

I don't see there being a large enough demand for something that would seem to take a lot of proramming time.

Plus, he would have to give up his amateur ramming status...

(Seriously, where's Subby? Marmel? I mean, come on, "proramming" and I'm the first person to comment on it?)

[Tasan]

He's going to need to consider this now with multiplayer. I know I may not buy "the next one" if it doesn't let a league I'm in carry over. Think about the ootp leagues that have been able to continue from version to version without starting over. You'd kill the multiplay aspect if you didn't carry over leagues.

[Subby]

Originally Posted by JasonC23

Plus, he would have to give up his amateur ramming status...

(Seriously, where's Subby? Marmel? I mean, come on, "proramming" and I'm the first person to comment on it?)

After I went on the blind date with Fritz I decided to move myself to the "antiramming" column.

[JasonC23]

Originally Posted by Subby

After I went on the blind date with Fritz I decided to move myself to the "antiramming" column.

I see. Say no more.

[RedKingGold]

Ironic,....Subby and antiramming in the same sentence,....its an oxymoron,..is it?