Tyson fight

[JeeberD]

Over in 49 seconds. In post fight interview says that he has a broken back. Huh? A broken back. Yup, the guy's certifiable...

Oh yeah, Etienne could have gotten up. He was just happy to get his paycheck...

[Ksyrup]

I can't believe people pay to watch that crap. Was Vince McMahon on the telecast?

[mrskippy]

I have Showtime so I didn't have to pay an extra for the fight. In fact I got the PPV version with undercards for free as well. Sadly they didn't show the Tonya Harding fight.

[JeeberD]

I temporarily have Showtime, so there was no extra charge. No way in hell I would have payed $50 (or however much it cost) to watch that...

[Ksyrup]

OK, that makes sense.

Did Tonya win? More importantly, did she embarrass herself? I guess just by showing up...

[JeeberD]

I think she lost on a split decision. It apparently was a pathetic excuse for a fight with neither woman landing that many punches...

[Ksyrup]

I was hoping for a TKO - blow to the kneecap.

[HornedFrog Purple]

No way Etienne was getting up, he got smacked, his eyes were rolling up the back of his head. Vintage Mike.

Now Lennox will make up another excuse not to fight Vlad.

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Paying $50 for 49 seconds of fighting would have sucked. A dollar a second.

[JeeberD]

That was a vicious punch by Mike, but I didn't see Etienne's eyes rolling up. Looked to me like he was just laying there staring straight up. But then again, I'm certainly not a boxing expert, so I could be wrong...

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Originally posted by JeeberD
That was a vicious punch by Mike, but I didn't see Etienne's eyes rolling up. Looked to me like he was just laying there staring straight up. But then again, I'm certainly not a boxing expert, so I could be wrong...

And you certainly didn't just get hit with a punch from Mike Tyson. Would you get up after that?

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by gold101
And you certainly didn't just get hit with a punch from Mike Tyson. Would you get up after that?

Very true...

[mtolson]

You guys must of saw a different fight. Yeah the blow was good, but damn, it looked like he just layed there and tried to keep his eye closed. It's amazing how he could not even move until the count got to 8 then all the sudden, with the assistence of Mike he could get up and even whisper sweet nothings in Mikes ear. WHERE THE CORNER MEN !!!!! Not one of them enter the ring. After the count gets to 10, after just get hit so hard he couldn't move, he's walking around the ring like nothing happen. No medical checks or nothing !!!!!!! He didn't even go to his corner and sit down until after he finished meeting and greeting with Team Tyson.

If you look at the replays you will notice that he has a kind of smirk on his face like "Dang Mike, I though I was supposed just fall. They didn't say you were going to hit me first." Michael Spinks put up a better fight.

And to top it off, Tyson claims he has a broken back and didn't get an injection before the fight. Then minutes later, he says he's going back into the gym after taken a week off. Guess he forgot about his back. If he can bob-and-weave that good with a broken back then Lewis has no chance. Yeah Right !

THIS WAS SET UP FROM THE GET GO. VINTAGE TYSON !!!!!

[bbor]

AHAHAHAH

Etienne is the smartest man in America right now.....million bux for 49 seconds of work

AHAHAHAH

[sturmie]

Originally posted by JeeberD
In post fight interview says that he has a broken back. Huh? A broken back.

actually, tyson said he had a "spinal" ....whatever the hell that is.


sturmie

[kcchief19]

I would spend 49 seconds in the ring with Mike Tyson for $1 million. And I would do just want Etienne did -- take my lump, drop like a sack of sugar and lay there praying for my mommy.

[GoldenEagle]

I would have been mad if I would paid $1500 for a ticket.

[GrantDawg]

Originally posted by kcchief19
I would spend 49 seconds in the ring with Mike Tyson for $1 million. And I would do just want Etienne did -- take my lump, drop like a sack of sugar and lay there praying for my mommy.

I would do that, except the praying for mommy part. I have a feeling I wouldn't be fake unconscious.

As for boxing, what do you expect? The heavy weight division has been a joke since the Tyson-Douglas fight.

[Sublime]

Me and a bunch of friends pitched in and ordered the fight. To tell you the truth i wasn't expecting anything less, you don't watch Mike Tyson to see him go 10 rounds, you watch Iron Mike to see him KO the cupcakes in the first 3 rounds. And I don't know, it looked to me (no boxing expert) that Etienne's leg just gave out after he got hit, it certainly didn't look like something you could fake.

[dread]

The leg movement made the KO look real, but Etienne was very aware about removing his mouthpiece which made me feel that he was not that hurt. I have very rarely seen a man supposedly that hurt able to remove his mouthpiece as soon as he went down.

[rexalllsc]

Originally posted by dread
The leg movement made the KO look real, but Etienne was very aware about removing his mouthpiece which made me feel that he was not that hurt. I have very rarely seen a man supposedly that hurt able to remove his mouthpiece as soon as he went down.

Oh man he was dazed...he got rocked something fierce...

Imagine is Tyson beat Douglas...he might've never lost...

[damnMikeBrown]

"Imagine is Tyson beat Douglas...he might've never lost..."


Except to an Indiana prosecutor for a certain rape trial.

[stkelly52]

Do people actually still watch boxing?

[PilotMan]

Boxing is a great sport. It is just in a very bad spot right now. Too much coruption, too little central organization. And the sad thing is it will never get any better, because to many people are making money.

Like college football's search for a tournament, boxing is doomed, its all about the money and not the fans or even the fighters.

How can you really care about a guy who only fights once or twice a year? It's takes a die hard to follow. It will never come back mainstream.

[stkelly52]

I actually remember enjoying boxing when I was little, but once they switched oever to Pay per veiw, boxing killed itself. Only the wealthy can can afford it. Kids are growing up having never seen a fight, and as time goes on, the number of fans will continue to decrease.

[sabotai]

It doesn't bother me if he did just lay there or not. If he did, I completely understand.

If that happened to me, I'd stay down too. What? You want me to get up so I can get smacked like that some more? Fuck you, I'll stay where Tyson can't hit me again.

[JeeberD]

Someone who makes boxing their profession should at least give a real effort during the fight...

[sabotai]

People who make boxing their profession should also try not to get themselves hurt. If someone is going up against a guy that knocked him flat on his ass in 49 seconds, he's got to think about not getting himself hurt enough that he won't fight again.

Just like in other sports. A lot of injuries can be overcome in the game and the player could probably keep on playing. But the chance of worsening the injury is almost a guarentee, so they sit him the rest of the game and fix him up.

If he takes a shot liek that 3 or 4 more times, he could end up with a bad concussion, a borken jaw, or far worse. When you make something your profession, your career is #1 priorty, not one fight, game or match. Live to fight another day.

[sabotai]

dola -

"Now Lennox will make up another excuse not to fight Vlad."

Too late. I think he said a few weeks ago that he wasn't going to fight either Vlad or his brother in his next fight. I think he's alreayd preparing to fight Mike again.

IMO, Lewis is probably the worse champion in a long time. I'm sick of him hiding behidn the excuse "I don't think he's what the people what me to fight." He used that excuse for the last guy. (Byrd?). One of the organizations said he had to fight him, he said no cause the people don't want that fight. SO they stripped him gave it to Byrd (?) and Byrd then got knocked out by Vlad.

I'm almost positive I'm wrong on the Byrd guy. I think Byrd was the guy Holyfield fought? I don't know right now. I'm exhausted and don't feel like looking it up...

[HornedFrog Purple]

I am not the biggest Lewis fan either. He is a paper champ. I think Vlad would knock him silly because Lewis's reach and size is negated by Vlad.

Yeah Byrd was the guy who beat Holyfield, then Vlad knocked him into next week.

Really what I was pointing out that Lewis was hoping Tyson would win impressively so he could guarantee himself another rematch with him instead of Vlad which is what happened. The funny thing is the guy who demolished Lewis (Riddick Bowe) said when he gets out of jail which is pretty soon I think he wants a shot at Lewis.

What would really be funny is if Roy Jones wins impressively against Ruiz. Knowing Lewis he would go after that money in a heartbeat and that would be a fight I think people would actually want to see besides Lewis/Vlad.

[EagleFan]

I thought it was a wrestling match. The outcome was already planned. Dazed from the punch? So dazed that he took out the the mouthpiece and then laid his arms down after realizing he was still looking like he looked like he was still alert. Miraculously seemed fine after the count got near 10.

At least give us warning before staging these fights, like put a little WWE logo in the ring.

It will be nice to see him get over-hyped again just in time to get his ass kicked by Lewis again.

[cincyreds]

C'mon guys the thing was a complete setup!!!

When Etienne took the time to take his very own mouth piece out, after he had taken a huge punch, just told me that it was all a setup to make Tyson look again!!

Boxing is crap!

[cincyreds]

It was all a setup to make Tyson look good!!!

And to think the media is playing along, like OMG Tyson is back.

What a bunch of garbage.

[Hyde]

Just a few thoughts... I am one of the people who doesnt care at all about Tyson. I wont forget about the wasted money when he bit Holyfield. He is a crook and a rip off artist and is nowhere near a championship caliber fighter. Hasnt been for a decade...Lewis will never fight Vlad. He knows he has NO chance to beat him......I agree that boxing did kill itself when it went to pay per view. The fan base instantly decreased by over half. As more time goes on, it will only get worse.....John Ruiz will beat Roy Jones....I pray that football eventually doesnt go to pay per view.

[Samdari]

The biggest question about Tyson Hyde, is not whether he is a championship caliber fighter, but whether he ever was.

I saw many of his early fights, and yes he absolutely destroyed some people, and I cannot deny his power. But, has he ever beaten anyone of any caliber, or ever outboxed anyone?

[Bee]

Under Kevin Rooney, Tyson was an excellent fighter. He had power, great movement, quick hands and solid defense . He didn't "outbox" people because that's wasn't his style. His self destruction outside the ring greatly affected his skills inside the ring IMO. Poor training, poor attitude, and too much self-confidence led to his downfall in the ring. Once he started going down, it was like a snowball goind down a snow covered mountain.

As far as the sport goes, I agree that PPV really hurt the popularity. There's also too much corruption, too many organizations with too many championships and the fighters avoid each other like the plague unless they can get huge jack for a match.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Tyson in his heyday destroyed every single championship caliber fighter that would fight him. When Tyson had Kevin Rooney and was not in trouble yet he was the best.

Regarding Lewis/Tyson II keep in mind a couple of things. One Lewis fought the perfect fight and Tyson had the worst fight of his career. Two if Lewis had gotten hit with the punch Etienne did, he would be on dream street too. That is what Tyson has which is the greatest equalizer in the division. All it takes for him is that one shot.

If Tyson is believable after the fight, he admitted he has messed up his life and he wants a chance at Lewis. The interesting thing is he also said he needs to train and have a couple of more fights before he deems himself ready. After that craziness with his back ailment, Mike Tyson seemed to be on the level for the first time in years. I hope he means it and goes through with it.

[rkmsuf]

If Tyson is believable after the fight, he admitted he has messed up his life and he wants a chance at Lewis. The interesting thing is he also said he needs to train and have a couple of more fights before he deems himself ready. After that craziness with his back ailment, Mike Tyson seemed to be on the level for the first time in years. I hope he means it and goes through with it.

From what I heard post fight it sounded like more of the same garbled, rambling from Tyson. I like it though if not coherent he is entertaining to listen to.

Did anyone catch when in one of the pre fight press conferences one of the reporters thought his kid there was a little girl? His comments about his children were hilarious...

[HornedFrog Purple]

Well I had never heard Tyson admit himself at fault for any of his problems before the interview after the fight. He always blamed something/somebody else. Whether he was serious about this whole fight I don't know, but I do know you do not usually spar 5 rounds on Wednesday and 4 rounds on Thursday before a fight on Saturday. I think Tyson knew this was his last hurrah if he lost or did not fight. If he remained focused and treated an upcoming Lewis fight in the same manner I think you would see a much better fight than the last one and he might actually be able to win.

[rkmsuf]

but I do know you do not usually spar 5 rounds on Wednesday and 4 rounds on Thursday before a fight on Saturday.

I guess you have to if you don't train for the prior two weeks...

If Lewis shows up he'll domolish him...

[Bee]

Tyson had a real trainer for this fight which made a difference IMO. He's not the fighter he was in his youth, but when trained properly he can be dangerous against any of the heavyweights out there today. He might not be able to consistently beat the top guys out there today, but he still has the "puncher's chance" to take them out.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Well that's the thing about boxing, you just never know what will happen. Vlad could lose March 8th anything can happen in the ring. Tyson may not be the best anymore but when focused he is extremely dangerous because he still has about the best KO punch in the business. That's one thing he has not lost. George Foreman lost whatever real boxing skills he had but he didnt lose his KO power, that's what got him his title. Guys like Larry Holmes or Holyfield once their skills diminished had no KO punch to lean on.

[Easy Mac]

I saw the fight, to me it looked like Etiene took a dive. I've seen guys get hit 10x worse than that and stay up. I think he god hit solidly, and was ready to get paid. Thank God it was free, b/c I would have asked for my money back from that shit.

[Bee]

I don't buy he took a dive. He would have had WAY too much to gain by beating Tyson. After getting clocked, I think he realized he had absolutely no chance of making it through the round and decided to just stay down. I don't consider that a dive, that's just giving up when you know you're beat.

The guy was known to have a weak chin and no movement, that's why they put him in against Tyson. They wanted a quick knockout to generate interest in Tyson again for a big payday against Lewis. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tyson go in against a guy like Savarese who also has a weak chin and little movement, so he can get another quick knockout to set up interest in another fight against Lewis.

[Hyde]

With all of Tysons antics, for me, he not only burned the bridge to respectability, he burned all of the roads and highways leading to the bridge with them. If other people find him entertaining, all the power to you and enjoy. Of course, he is not out to earn the lollipop of the year award. He is a prize fighter. I am just one of the fans who will never watch another Tyson fight for any reason. I am more interested in real fighters who are championship level fighters. Unless it is Lewis (the champion) fighting a younger guy who has EARNED a title shot like Vlad, then my money is just not going towards supporting a farce. I will watch the Jones-Ruiz fight. Jones is a dominant guy in his weight class who is moving up to challenge a legitimate heavy weight. While in my opinion this will never be considered a real championship bout, it will be interesting to see a great little man agaist a good big man.

[varacel]

Horned

"The funny thing is the guy who demolished Lewis (Riddick Bowe) said when he gets out of jail which is pretty soon I think he wants a shot at Lewis."

As far as I'm aware Lewis and is Bowe have only fought once, in the Olympic final at Seoul and Lewis bullied him. The beating Bowe took was proably the reason he never fought Lewis when they were both professionals in their prime.

After his knockout of Razor Rudduck, Lewis was sidestepped by the better fighters of his generation (Holyfield, Bowe and Tyson to an extent) when they were all in their prime.

For me, Holyfield and Tyson in their prime would both have beat Lewis as he has always had trouble fighting smaller, quicker fighters, Holyfield even give Lewis problems when he was a good 10 years past his prime and why Holyfield ducked Lewis in the early 90's always puzzled me. (I think you can tell I'm a Holyfield fan. As a cruiserweight he was in my opinion the best fighter pound for pound of the last 20 years).

I can see why Lewis sees no merit in fighting Klitschko. Historically his generation of fighters is Bowe, Tyson, Holyfield, and in 20-30 years time people will lok at the records and see Lewis beat and drew with Holyfield and beat Tyson (maybe twice).

Though I think if he were to fight Klitschko he would win, as he has never had trouble with big fighters who come with big reputations (Ruddock and Golota spring to mind), while his defeats have come against no names Rahmann and McCall (Even Frank Bruno beat McCall) so Chris(?) Byrd would be a worry!

And if Bowe is serious about a comeback, I really think that is one fight Lewis would love to take, as Bowe's one fighter that really got under Lewis' skin.

Just like to add it's great to see some serios boxing debate, and please excuse the length of the post, as it's my first and I'm sure they'll get shorter with experience.

[HornedFrog Purple]

You probably are right about Bowe/Lewis. I could have sworn they fought as professionals, I know Bowe lost to him as an amateur.

As for Holyfield and Tyson ducking Lewis, Lewis would lose fights he shouldn't have and that would knock him back down the ladder. My contention is that the Holyfield that fought Lewis was the one who went through 2 wars with Bowe and he was never the same after that. After Bowe 2 is when Holyfield began his decline in interviews where he now slurs his speech and stutters. I believe he has taken some slight brain damage (I am really serious).

The difference I believe with Vlad is he is not just a brawler, he is a polished fighter and he has shown to be a tactician in the ring at least from what I have seen. To me he is the best contender out of anyone. If Lewis would happen to beat him, I would shut up about Lewis because it would be the first legitimate defense of his title since he has had them except for possibly Holyfield who I contend was 50% of the Holyfield before Bowe I/II However, the most likely scenario would be for him to fight Tyson again.

The only wildcards I could see would be Bowe/Lewis or Jones/Lewis. He would fight Bowe because he can't stand him and he would fight Jones (if Jones beat Ruiz and wanted to do it) because money would sell that fight. If Lewis is so confident about beating Vlad, I dont see a reason why he would not fight him. That generates money interest too. Vlad has done everything to get a title shot and if he wins March 8th there is nothing more he can do.

To be honest it would not surprise me in the least if after Tyson/Lewis II which he probably should win, Lewis retires.

[BishopMVP]

I think Roy Jones Jr is the best pound-for-pound fighter ever, and I think he'll win this weekend, but saying he could have a chance against Lewis seems farfetched. Ruiz is what, 230 and it is a stretch for Jones. And Lewis is 6'5 250? Byrd maybe has a shot versus Lewis, but even he is real light for a heavyweight. The fact he is a lefty helps, plus I think he is very underrated. I think Byrd-Jones Jr could be one of the greatest fights in the heavyweight division in the past decade or so if Jones beats Ruiz. But putting Jones Jr in the ring against the undisputed heavyweight champion giving away 6 inches and 75 pounds, as well a full foot of reach would require an epic performance.

I love Jones' attitude on Ruiz though "I’m not taking this challenge because I see someone that I can beat, I’m taking the challenge because I see someone that will fight. I want my back against the wall. I want to be put in a no-win situation. That’s what I love. That’s what I live for." If boxing had more of that and less of Tyson-like behavior, I'd consider buying PPV.

[dread]

True Lewis and Bowe never fought, in Fact Bowe ducked Lewis much Like Tyson did. Lewis was twice paid to step aside so Tyson could fight another contender. Bowe had his chance to fight Lewis , but decided to go a differant direction. Lewis has 2 losses one to Oliver mcall and one to rahman plus a dreadful decisoned draw with holyfield. he killed Holyfield.

[Jets80]

There is one fight and one fight only that I want to see.......

Lewis vs Klitschko (the good Klitchko).

The boxing world should be screaming for this matchup. The only problem is that Lewis is scared and won't fight him.