DBacks Fire Backman

Bomber · 11-05-2004, 12:40 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1916771

Poor guy doesn't even last a week.

Fonzie · 11-05-2004, 12:41 PM

Four days. Is that a record?

Ksyrup · 11-05-2004, 12:43 PM

Ask George O'Leary.

Bomber · 11-05-2004, 12:44 PM

Its got to be, right? You'd think they would have done a background check, but all that stuff happened 3 or so years ago, give the guy a break.

Tekneek · 11-05-2004, 12:46 PM

Good thing Bobby Cox hasn't had a bankruptcy, because his record is not exactly squeaky clean.

Ksyrup · 11-05-2004, 12:50 PM

I think the issue is how it makes the D-Backs look since they didn't check him out, rather than his background. In effect, they are penalizing him for their mistake. And one of the owners who commented said as much - that they still would have hired him knowing what they later found out. Well, if that's true, why are you firing him? Because you look stupid for not discovering it on your own.

Tekneek · 11-05-2004, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

And one of the owners who commented said as much - that they still would have hired him knowing what they later found out. Well, if that's true, why are you firing him? Because you look stupid for not discovering it on your own.

What a dumb owner. He has the right to tell the world he is a fool, I'm just not sure why he decided to actually do it.

DeToxRox · 11-05-2004, 01:04 PM

lol, i am speechless.

Draft Dodger · 11-05-2004, 01:06 PM

that is so fucking stupid on so many levels

SnDvls · 11-05-2004, 01:16 PM

Well since they forced Jerry Collango out it doesn't suprise me that the D-Backs are now the laughing stock of the MLB and we'll soon see the diper boys playing again with Randy Johnson and no free agents to boot.

Bomber · 11-05-2004, 01:21 PM

Colangelo was pretty much an idiot,too. He traded Schilling for Casey Fossum, almost straight up now that Sexson's not coming back, just because he hates Steinbrenner.

Ksyrup · 11-05-2004, 01:22 PM

We appreciate his sacrifice on behalf of baseball fans everywhere. Truly.

Ksyrup · 11-05-2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

Well since they forced Jerry Collango out it doesn't suprise me that the D-Backs are now the laughing stock of the MLB and we'll soon see the diper boys playing again with Randy Johnson and no free agents to boot.

I'm fairly certain they'll be changing their own diapers. Randy will be playing elsewhere this year, but to make up for the lack of anything they got from the two big deals last year, someone's going to have to give AZ a really, really good package.

General Mike 2 · 11-05-2004, 01:40 PM

Poor Wally. I wanted the Mets to hire him. I just don't get why these idiot coaches don't sign the contract immediately.

SnDvls · 11-05-2004, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I'm fairly certain they'll be changing their own diapers. Randy will be playing elsewhere this year, but to make up for the lack of anything they got from the two big deals last year, someone's going to have to give AZ a really, really good package.

you are correct I ment with out RJ. Boy and to think 2001 we were World Champs. The mighty have fallen.

Bomber · 11-05-2004, 01:54 PM

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you are correct I ment with out RJ. Boy and to think 2001 we were World Champs. The mighty have fallen.

These things happen when you buy a World Series, ask the Marlins. The difference is the Marlins got quality young players and won another one. The DBacks would rather trade Schilling for a bum lefthander.

Ksyrup · 11-05-2004, 01:56 PM

When they won it all, everyone was glad they didn't pull a Marlins and dismantle the team, but really, that team was built on deferred money and balloon payment contracts, and it was just a matter of time. From a PR perspective, I guess it worked, but the two situations were about the same. The only difference is AZ didn't dismantle by the all-star game the next year. Of course, Florida didn't lose 111 games, either.

rkmsuf · 11-05-2004, 01:56 PM

I think Arizona is paying a big chunk of change to Schilling this coming year and if Johnson is traded they are on the hook for a bunch of money as well. They'll be paying millions for their two former aces to pitch elsewhere.

Did anyone see the Randolph contract with the Mets? Will manage for food.(In relative terms)

Ksyrup · 11-05-2004, 01:59 PM

Didn't Randolph turn down Cincy a few years ago because they wanted to pay him nothing?

Ksyrup · 11-05-2004, 02:00 PM

Who is it that's paying Bobby Bonilla in a series of 1-year annuities through like 2030 or something bizarre like that? Is that the Mets, too?

rkmsuf · 11-05-2004, 02:00 PM

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Didn't Randolph turn down Cincy a few years ago because they wanted to pay him nothing?

He must really like NYC.

rkmsuf · 11-05-2004, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Who is it that's paying Bobby Bonilla in a series of 1-year annuities through like 2030 or something bizarre like that? Is that the Mets, too?

I believe it is. Only in America.

Ksyrup · 11-05-2004, 02:03 PM

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He must really like NYC.

Since he refuses to get real managerial skills in the minors, you can only pay a guy so much for sitting next to Joe Torre, I guess. Osmosis pays only so much.

cuervo72 · 11-05-2004, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Osmosis pays only so much.

Seems to pay Paris Hilton rather well.

Bomber · 11-05-2004, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I think Arizona is paying a big chunk of change to Schilling this coming year and if Johnson is traded they are on the hook for a bunch of money as well. They'll be paying millions for their two former aces to pitch elsewhere.

Did anyone see the Randolph contract with the Mets? Will manage for food.(In relative terms)

I thought Schilling signed an extension with the Sox or a new deal, so I don't think the DBacks are paying him anything, and I doubt if they traded Johnson they'd be expected to pay anything for him.

I just heard that they hired Bob Melvin to replace Backman.

rkmsuf · 11-05-2004, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomber

I thought Schilling signed an extension with the Sox or a new deal, so I don't think the DBacks are paying him anything, and I doubt if they traded Johnson they'd be expected to pay anything for him.

I just heard that they hired Bob Melvin to replace Backman.

I heard on the local station that Arizona still had big committments to both. Maybe it was just Johnson.

Rich1033 · 11-05-2004, 05:44 PM

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I heard on the local station that Arizona still had big committments to both. Maybe it was just Johnson.

They most likely meant that some of the money from previous years was deferred.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 11-05-2004, 06:02 PM

iI thought they just hired the guy....wait Im watching the update on SC .... NOW.

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Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I think the issue is how it makes the D-Backs look since they didn't check him out, rather than his background. In effect, they are penalizing him for their mistake. And one of the owners who commented said as much - that they still would have hired him knowing what they later found out. Well, if that's true, why are you firing him? Because you look stupid for not discovering it on your own. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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Fonzie Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Illinois	Four days. Is that a record?

11-05-2004, 12:44 PM	#4
Bomber High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2004	Its got to be, right? You'd think they would have done a background check, but all that stuff happened 3 or so years ago, give the guy a break.

11-05-2004, 12:46 PM	#5
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	Good thing Bobby Cox hasn't had a bankruptcy, because his record is not exactly squeaky clean.

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SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	Well since they forced Jerry Collango out it doesn't suprise me that the D-Backs are now the laughing stock of the MLB and we'll soon see the diper boys playing again with Randy Johnson and no free agents to boot.

11-05-2004, 01:21 PM	#11
Bomber High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2004	Colangelo was pretty much an idiot,too. He traded Schilling for Casey Fossum, almost straight up now that Sexson's not coming back, just because he hates Steinbrenner.

11-05-2004, 01:56 PM	#17
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	When they won it all, everyone was glad they didn't pull a Marlins and dismantle the team, but really, that team was built on deferred money and balloon payment contracts, and it was just a matter of time. From a PR perspective, I guess it worked, but the two situations were about the same. The only difference is AZ didn't dismantle by the all-star game the next year. Of course, Florida didn't lose 111 games, either. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	I think Arizona is paying a big chunk of change to Schilling this coming year and if Johnson is traded they are on the hook for a bunch of money as well. They'll be paying millions for their two former aces to pitch elsewhere. Did anyone see the Randolph contract with the Mets? Will manage for food.(In relative terms) __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

11-05-2004, 01:59 PM	#19
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Didn't Randolph turn down Cincy a few years ago because they wanted to pay him nothing? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-05-2004, 02:00 PM	#20
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Who is it that's paying Bobby Bonilla in a series of 1-year annuities through like 2030 or something bizarre like that? Is that the Mets, too? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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