Enigma Puzzle #29

enigma · 12-10-2004, 01:56 AM

Some of these men are living,
some of them are dead.
Regardless of the their status,
there is a common thread.

The link is not apparent,
So don't fall for any traps.
Discover the names (that's one step),
but you'll need more than that.

Because while these men of sporting
Share a common trait.
The things that make them unique
Will carry an equal weight.

Now, when you find the info
To group them end to end
You can find another set where
they will be more than friends

Once you finish that part
You can solve this to the core
These hints are enough to start
Wanna have another? Well no more.

enigma · 12-10-2004, 11:06 AM

no takers?

cuervo72 · 12-10-2004, 11:08 AM

Uh, you posted at 3AM.

gottimd · 12-10-2004, 11:09 AM

Have anything to do with just right clicking and seeing the properties to get the names of the pictures?

In picture order:

A Baseball bit
Cinderella Crying Cut
Forever glory hockey
ill in it
just lasts make
me mick no
nowhere old outside
outta story time

cuervo72 · 12-10-2004, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gottimd

Have anything to do with just right clicking and seeing the properties to get the names of the pictures?

Could be useful in some future step, I don't know.

Lets see...missing many....
Gene Autry - 26
Drew Gooden - 0
Cal Ripken - 8
Bill Mazoroski - 9
Dick Butkus - 51
Bobby Hurley - 11
Mike Singletary - 50
John Hannah - 73
Chuck Bednarik - 60
Ted Williams - 9
George Brett - 5
Gordie Howe - 9
Willis Reed - 15
Dizzy Dean - 17
Jeff Van Note - 57
Drazen Petrovic - 3
Julius Erving - 6
Joe Dumars - 4
Pete Maravich - 7
Ozzie Smith - 1
Dwight Clark - 87
Deion Sanders - 2
Bart Starr - 15

Celeval · 12-10-2004, 11:24 AM

Pictures:

A1 A2 A3 A4 A5
B1 B2 B3 B4 B5
C1 C2 C3 C4 C5
D1 D2 D3 D4 D5
E1 E2 E3 E4

A1: ? - a
A2: Greg Ostertag - baseball
A3: Cal Ripken - bit
A4: Bill Mazeroski - cinderella
A5: ? - crying
B1: Dick Butkus - cut
B2: - forever
B3: Mike Singletary - glory
B4: John Hannah - hockey
B5: Chuck Bednarik - ill
C1: Ted Williams - in
C2: George Brett - it
C3: Gordie Howe - just
C4: ? - lasts
C5: ? - make
D1: ? - me
D2: ? - mick
D3: Julius Erving - no
D4: Joe Dumars - nowhere
D5: Pete Maravich - old
E1: Ozzie Smith - outside
E2: Dwight Clark - outta
E3: Deion Sanders - story
E4: ? - time

gottimd · 12-10-2004, 11:26 AM

I think if the picture titles themselves have to do something with it, they have to be put in order such as:

A baseball cinderella story outta nowhere just lasts forever. In it......

cuervo72 · 12-10-2004, 11:29 AM

My initial impression is that a common link would be retired numbers/retired jerseys (Autry).

gottimd · 12-10-2004, 11:31 AM

Who is E4 though, a reds catcher, Bench?

enigma · 12-10-2004, 12:03 PM

Please note the one change in images. The fact that there is a replacement signifies nothing except for enigma's inability to catch errors at 3:00am.

cuervo72 · 12-10-2004, 12:33 PM

Ok, you subbed one #5 for another #5.

edit: nevermind, I see that that is actually Bart Starr (#15), and not Paul Hornung. Carry on.

QuikSand · 12-10-2004, 12:39 PM

Methinks movie quotes... probably sports movie quotes... are the assembling guide.

cuervo72 · 12-10-2004, 12:41 PM

I had thought "no crying in baseball" stood out. I put those together to see if there was a pattern in the grouped names/numbers, but haven't found one.

Well, at least I don't *think I have...

digamma · 12-10-2004, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72

My initial impression is that a common link would be retired numbers/retired jerseys (Autry).

All of the baseball numbers (plus Autry) are retired.

QuikSand · 12-10-2004, 12:54 PM

no crying in baseball
cinderella story outta nowhere

...both make sense to me as ways to string this together, somehow...

Frozenrope · 12-10-2004, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celeval

Pictures:

A1 A2 A3 A4 A5
B1 B2 B3 B4 B5
C1 C2 C3 C4 C5
D1 D2 D3 D4 D5
E1 E2 E3 E4

A1: ? - a
A2: Greg Ostertag - baseball
A3: Cal Ripken - bit
A4: Bill Mazeroski - cinderella
A5: ? - crying
B1: Dick Butkus - cut
B2: - forever
B3: Mike Singletary - glory
B4: John Hannah - hockey
B5: Chuck Bednarik - ill
C1: Ted Williams - in
C2: George Brett - it
C3: Gordie Howe - just
C4: ? - lasts
C5: ? - make
D1: ? - me
D2: ? - mick
D3: Julius Erving - no
D4: Joe Dumars - nowhere
D5: Pete Maravich - old
E1: Ozzie Smith - outside
E2: Dwight Clark - outta
E3: Deion Sanders - story
E4: ? - time

I just noticed that the words used are all in alphabetical order.

That cannot be a coincidence.

cuervo72 · 12-10-2004, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikSand

no crying in baseball
cinderella story outta nowhere

...both make sense to me as ways to string this together, somehow...

just a bit outside
glory lasts forever
cut me mick
old time hockey (I think)

Leaves: ill, it, make (make it ill? no clue.)

cuervo72 · 12-10-2004, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frozenrope

Maybe the words should be arranged according to the numbers on the jerseys of the players? Just a thought.

Well...interestingly, most of the groups contain 5 digits. I had an idea for that, but I'm not sure it fits. If it is even relevant.

Frozenrope · 12-10-2004, 01:00 PM

Maybe the words should be arranged according to the numbers on the jerseys of the players? Just a thought.

JeeberD · 12-10-2004, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Leaves: ill, it, make (make it ill? no clue.)

I'll make it?

Frozenrope · 12-10-2004, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD

I'll make it?

From Hoosiers!!!! Spoken by Jimmy Chitwood

enigma · 12-10-2004, 01:05 PM

You guys are good.

enigma · 12-10-2004, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma

Each of the pictures is of a person who has had a number retired in their honor. Also, each of the pictures has a unique file name:
1: Gene Autry - #26 (Angels) - a
2: Drew Gooden - #0 (Jayhawks) - baseball
3: Cal Ripken - #8 (Orioles) - bit
4: Bill Mazeroski - #9 (Pirates) - cinderella
5: Bobby hurley - #11 (Blue Devils) - crying
6: Dick Butkus - #51 (Bears) - cut
7: Jacque Plante - #1 (Canadiens) - forever
8: Mike Singletary - #50 (Bears) - glory
9: John Hannah - #73 (Patriots) - hockey
10: Chuck Bednarik - #60 (Eagles) - ill
11: Ted Williams - #9 (Red Sox) - in
12: George Brett - #5 (Royals) - it
13: Gordie Howe - #9 (Red Wings) - just
14: Willis Reed - #19 (Knicks) - lasts
15: Dizzy Dean #17 (Cardinals) - make
16: Jeff Van Note - #57 (Falcons) - me
17: Drazen Petrovic - #3 (Nets) - mick
18: Julius Erving - #6 (76ers) - no
19: Joe Dumars - #4 (Pistons) - nowhere
20: Pete Maravich - #7 (Jazz) - old
21: Ozzie Smith - #1 (Cardinals) - outside
22: Dwight Clark - #87 (49ers) - outta
23: Deion Sanders - #2 (Seminoles) - story
24: Bart Starr - #15 (Packers) - time

Rearrange the file names to get seven relatively well known quotes from sports movies. Placing the quotes in chronological order gives you:
"Cut me, Mick" - Rocky (1976)
"Old time hockey" - Slap Shot (1977)
"Cinderella story outta nowhere" - Caddyshack (1980)
"I'll make it." - Hoosiers (1986)
"Just a bit outside" - Major League (1989)
"no crying in baseball" - A League of Their Own (1992)
"glory lasts forever" - The Replacements (2000)

Placing
Using the number that the player had retired:
51 + 57 + 3
7 + 15 + 73
9 + 2 + 87 + 4
60 + 17 + 5
9 + 26 + 8 + 1
6 + 11 + 9 + 0
50 + 19 + 1

Placing them "end to end" gives you:
51573
71573
92874
60175
92681
61190
50191

When considered as "more than friends"...i.e. dates:
5/15/73
7/15/73
9/28/74
6/01/75
9/26/81
6/11/90
5/01/91

You get the seven dates of Nolan Ryan's seven no-hitters. Ryan is a player who has had his number retired by three franchises...the Angels, Rangers & Astros. Therefore the solution is "nolanryan"

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QuikSand · 12-10-2004, 01:07 PM

I never saw Miracle, but I'm thinking that words like "hockey" and "glory" (maybe even "forever") might find their way into a quote from that movie. Anyone?

On second thought, maybe not.

gottimd · 12-10-2004, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72

glory lasts forever

Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever.
-Shane Falco, "The Replacements"

QuikSand · 12-10-2004, 01:09 PM

Wonderful puzzle.

gottimd · 12-10-2004, 01:10 PM

Dola-

I am an idiot, he already posted the answer.

cuervo72 · 12-10-2004, 01:10 PM

Yes yes...very clever.

gottimd · 12-10-2004, 01:13 PM

Was this the quickest an Enigma puzzle has been busted? Didn't even take 12 hours, and a majority of us were probably sleeping for the first few hours when it was posted.

Celeval · 12-10-2004, 01:14 PM

Impressive

VPI97 · 12-10-2004, 01:15 PM

Dutch · 12-10-2004, 07:58 PM

The puzzle makers and puzzle solving group are really fucking good at this.

It's very enjoyable to read.

12-10-2004, 12:03 PM	#10
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12-10-2004, 12:41 PM	#13
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	I had thought "no crying in baseball" stood out. I put those together to see if there was a pattern in the grouped names/numbers, but haven't found one. Well, at least I don't *think I have... __________________ null

12-10-2004, 01:05 PM	#22
enigma H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Aug 2004	You guys are good. __________________ The FOFC Enigma is a self-repeating puzzle system. If you know the answer to the current puzzle, sign on to FOFC with the username "enigma" using the answer (in all lower case letters, with no spacing) as the password. If you're right -- you control the enigma, and may post the next puzzle under that username. The person who solves the enigma should post in the puzzle thread noting both the fact that the puzzle is solved, as well as the solution to the puzzle.

12-10-2004, 01:07 PM	#24
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I never saw Miracle, but I'm thinking that words like "hockey" and "glory" (maybe even "forever") might find their way into a quote from that movie. Anyone? On second thought, maybe not. Last edited by QuikSand : 12-10-2004 at 01:08 PM.

12-10-2004, 01:10 PM	#27
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Dola- I am an idiot, he already posted the answer. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

12-10-2004, 11:06 AM	#2
enigma H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Aug 2004	no takers? __________________ The FOFC Enigma is a self-repeating puzzle system. If you know the answer to the current puzzle, sign on to FOFC with the username "enigma" using the answer (in all lower case letters, with no spacing) as the password. If you're right -- you control the enigma, and may post the next puzzle under that username. The person who solves the enigma should post in the puzzle thread noting both the fact that the puzzle is solved, as well as the solution to the puzzle.

12-10-2004, 11:08 AM	#3
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Uh, you posted at 3AM. __________________ null

12-10-2004, 11:09 AM	#4
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Have anything to do with just right clicking and seeing the properties to get the names of the pictures? In picture order: A Baseball bit Cinderella Crying Cut Forever glory hockey ill in it just lasts make me mick no nowhere old outside outta story time __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08 Last edited by gottimd : 12-10-2004 at 11:17 AM.

12-10-2004, 11:24 AM	#6
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Pictures: A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 E1 E2 E3 E4 A1: ? - a A2: Greg Ostertag - baseball A3: Cal Ripken - bit A4: Bill Mazeroski - cinderella A5: ? - crying B1: Dick Butkus - cut B2: - forever B3: Mike Singletary - glory B4: John Hannah - hockey B5: Chuck Bednarik - ill C1: Ted Williams - in C2: George Brett - it C3: Gordie Howe - just C4: ? - lasts C5: ? - make D1: ? - me D2: ? - mick D3: Julius Erving - no D4: Joe Dumars - nowhere D5: Pete Maravich - old E1: Ozzie Smith - outside E2: Dwight Clark - outta E3: Deion Sanders - story E4: ? - time Last edited by Celeval : 12-10-2004 at 11:27 AM. Reason: Fixed A5, Added A2

12-10-2004, 11:26 AM	#7
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	I think if the picture titles themselves have to do something with it, they have to be put in order such as: A baseball cinderella story outta nowhere just lasts forever. In it...... __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

12-10-2004, 11:29 AM	#8
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	My initial impression is that a common link would be retired numbers/retired jerseys (Autry). __________________ null

12-10-2004, 11:31 AM	#9
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Who is E4 though, a reds catcher, Bench? __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

12-10-2004, 12:33 PM	#11
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Ok, you subbed one #5 for another #5. edit: nevermind, I see that that is actually Bart Starr (#15), and not Paul Hornung. Carry on. __________________ null Last edited by cuervo72 : 12-10-2004 at 12:35 PM.

12-10-2004, 12:39 PM	#12
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Methinks movie quotes... probably sports movie quotes... are the assembling guide.

12-10-2004, 12:54 PM	#15
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	no crying in baseball cinderella story outta nowhere ...both make sense to me as ways to string this together, somehow...

12-10-2004, 01:00 PM	#19
Frozenrope Mascot Join Date: Feb 2003	Maybe the words should be arranged according to the numbers on the jerseys of the players? Just a thought. __________________ It's not my show, but I'm on that show - Dick Juaron

12-10-2004, 01:09 PM	#26
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	Wonderful puzzle.

12-10-2004, 01:10 PM	#28
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Yes yes...very clever. __________________ null

12-10-2004, 01:13 PM	#29
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Was this the quickest an Enigma puzzle has been busted? Didn't even take 12 hours, and a majority of us were probably sleeping for the first few hours when it was posted. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

12-10-2004, 01:14 PM	#30
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	Impressive

12-10-2004, 01:15 PM	#31
VPI97 Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hi Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA	__________________ CT & Jivin - "Surprisingly Entertaining"

12-10-2004, 07:58 PM	#32
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	The puzzle makers and puzzle solving group are really fucking good at this. It's very enjoyable to read.

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