FM Question/Problem

[cougarfreak]

Almost every game i've started has ended up as a "load game not saving", and I'm getting damned frustrated. It's even happened w/games i've just created, saved and tried to go back to. Any suggestions? I'm running with the patch, 1.8 Celeron, 512 MB, Windows XP.

[cougarfreak]

hmmmmmmmm I guess no one else is having much of a problem w/this, maybe i'll reinstall.

[DaddyTorgo]

do you have...shoot I forget the name of the option...the rolling partial-save option on? Because I used to have problems with my savegames occasionally, but in this latest version of FM where it saves chunks multiple times (or something like that) I haven't noticed the same problem. You could probably check the SI board or if they have no answer, ping our resident FM guru MV.

[klayman]

First guess would be a lack of hard drive space or administrator's privileges.

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

do you have...shoot I forget the name of the option...the rolling partial-save option on? Because I used to have problems with my savegames occasionally, but in this latest version of FM where it saves chunks multiple times (or something like that) I haven't noticed the same problem. You could probably check the SI board or if they have no answer, ping our resident FM guru MV.

So are you saying you've had bad luck with rolling save on or off?

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by klayman

First guess would be a lack of hard drive space or administrator's privileges.

Over 30 GB of hard drive space left.........what administrator's priviliges are you speaking of?

[DaddyTorgo]

in the past i have had bad luck without rolling save. Rolling save seems to make a big difference. Do you have that on?

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

in the past i have had bad luck without rolling save. Rolling save seems to make a big difference. Do you have that on?

Yeah, I had it on. This is really befuddling me. I can start a game........save it, then exit. And sometimes when I go back in and try to load it, i get the "cannot load saved game message". Other times, I can load it, and I had a game going for about 4 months (game time, not real time) that has the "cannot load saved game" problem. Heck I don't want to play for fear of this happening at some point. No luck at the SI boards.......haven't had a reply and I posted last night.

[cougarfreak]

Well..........I thought I had it cured with an uninstall, complete deletion for saves folder, etc. Problem came back last night..........I don't think I had a problem prepatch, so I may reinstall and not install the patch. This sucks.

[Marc Vaughan]

Can you email one of your non-loading games to me at [email protected] and I'll try and work out what the problem is ... and if possible fix your game.

[Galaril]

Marc will the game eveer be available by adigital download for us in the states and elsewhere where the game is having a hard time with distribution?Thanks.

Dan

[Desnudo]

Try turning off all auto-save and rolling save features.

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Can you email one of your non-loading games to me at [email protected] and I'll try and work out what the problem is ... and if possible fix your game.

Marc, I'll do that as soon as I get home from work today. Thanks.

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Try turning off all auto-save and rolling save features.

I believe I've tried that, I guess it's possible when the computer is "saving" and I'm not actually manual saving it's causing some kind of corruption. The problem is........I don't know until at some point when the save goes bad. I love the game, but obviously this has made it frustrating. Maybe Mark will get it fixed for me, and I can play over my break for the next week and a half.

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Marc will the game eveer be available by adigital download for us in the states and elsewhere where the game is having a hard time with distribution?Thanks.

Dan

Its something I'll be pushing for - however nothings arranged presently.

[jbmagic]

Marc

when is fm2005 coming to the US Stores?

[SirFozzie]

it's supposedly already out (World Soccer Manager 2005), but it's hard to find

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

it's supposedly already out (World Soccer Manager 2005), but it's hard to find

yep thanks

i check best buy, compusa, fry's, circuit city, EB games, etc nothing

it looks like it the same problem with EHM hockey game too

what going on with Sega? SI change the name from FM 2005 to World Soccer Manager 2005 for the U.S. and it not even being sold to the United States..

[Desnudo]

If you haven't done it already, I'd strongly suggest ordering it online. There's no point in waiting.

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Can you email one of your non-loading games to me at [email protected] and I'll try and work out what the problem is ... and if possible fix your game.

Zipped up and sent, i hope you can help me out.

[Router Help]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

yep thanks

i check best buy, compusa, fry's, circuit city, EB games, etc nothing

it looks like it the same problem with EHM hockey game too

what going on with Sega? SI change the name from FM 2005 to World Soccer Manager 2005 for the U.S. and it not even being sold to the United States..

There are 10 gamestops in my local area and only one got the game in stock. The only got 3 copies and were already sold out when I went there yesterday.

[Kevin]

EHM finally looks to be available in Nova Scotia now. Saw it for the first time yesterday at both Wal-Mart and EB.

[Marc Vaughan]

Distribution in America for both WSM and EHM has been less than ideal so far - its something we'll be working on improving in the future ..

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Distribution in America for both WSM and EHM has been less than ideal so far - its something we'll be working on improving in the future ..

so does it mean we out of luck in the US for WSM and EHM for the current latest version that release now?

or we have to wait until next year when a brand new version comes out?

thanks

[ZXTT]

I got mine Sunday at Babbage's at Washington Square in Tigard, OR. I'd checked the Gamestop website, it said in stock, and sure enough I found it on the shelf. Today, the closest in stock is in Vancouver, WA, about 25-30 miles away. If you can't find it, order it online.

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

so does it mean we out of luck in the US for WSM and EHM for the current latest version that release now?

or we have to wait until next year when a brand new version comes out?

thanks

We're trying our best to get our games distributed as widely as possible, however please bear in mind that we're a small developer and rely upon our publisher to do this sort of thing so its a 'chain effect' and this can take time.

To be honest I'm not expecting distribution to improve dramatically before the release of our next version of EHM, hopefully it'll filter around a few more stores but I can't promise anything.

Marc

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

We're trying our best to get our games distributed as widely as possible, however please bear in mind that we're a small developer and rely upon our publisher to do this sort of thing so its a 'chain effect' and this can take time.

To be honest I'm not expecting distribution to improve dramatically before the release of our next version of EHM, hopefully it'll filter around a few more stores but I can't promise anything.

Marc

Wow!? Nice distribution chain management.

[Shepp]

Cougarfreak, have you check the read/write permissions on your My Documents folder? FM's save game files are put there and if you changed the permissions, renamed the folder, or even maybe moved it that may be causing your save game problems.

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by Shepp

Cougarfreak, have you check the read/write permissions on your My Documents folder? FM's save game files are put there and if you changed the permissions, renamed the folder, or even maybe moved it that may be causing your save game problems.

I haven't done specifically what you ask, but I have tried changing folders for the saved games. How do you check the read/write permissions on my documents? I have windows XP.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by cougarfreak

I haven't done specifically what you ask, but I have tried changing folders for the saved games. How do you check the read/write permissions on my documents? I have windows XP.

right click on file, properties, and see if the "read-only" box is checked.


one thing when transferring games from a burned CD (may not be in your case), when they go back onto your pc, they are "read-only". Right clicking on the folder and de-selecting "read-only" will take that permission off of all files.


Todd

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

We're trying our best to get our games distributed as widely as possible, however please bear in mind that we're a small developer and rely upon our publisher to do this sort of thing so its a 'chain effect' and this can take time.

To be honest I'm not expecting distribution to improve dramatically before the release of our next version of EHM, hopefully it'll filter around a few more stores but I can't promise anything.

Marc

Just a quick note, Mark, that EHM now seems to be appearing in Most stores in Atlantic Canada just this week. I haven't seen more than 2 copies in any store, but it is a positive sign.

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

right click on file, properties, and see if the "read-only" box is checked.


one thing when transferring games from a burned CD (may not be in your case), when they go back onto your pc, they are "read-only". Right clicking on the folder and de-selecting "read-only" will take that permission off of all files.


Todd

So should they be "read only" or not? My sports interactive folder in my documents says it is, as does the games folder inside of that folder. When I uncheck the box and click apply, then ok, THEN when i go back to it, is says it's read only again. Is that correct? I don't have a burned CD or anything like that. Ordered it from gamestop.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by cougarfreak

So should they be "read only" or not? My sports interactive folder in my documents says it is, as does the games folder inside of that folder. When I uncheck the box and click apply, then ok, THEN when i go back to it, is says it's read only again. Is that correct? I don't have a burned CD or anything like that. Ordered it from gamestop.

Sorry, I'm confusing you (and myself). That second part was in case you copied your saves folder to a CD to transfer to a different pc, like say a laptop as I do when I travel.

I'm thinking the saves game folder should not be "read only", but I'm not positive on this as I don't have the game yet.


Todd

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Sorry, I'm confusing you (and myself). That second part was in case you copied your saves folder to a CD to transfer to a different pc, like say a laptop as I do when I travel.

I'm thinking the saves game folder should not be "read only", but I'm not positive on this as I don't have the game yet.


Todd

Mabye Marc will see this and respond. If it shouldn't be read only, how can i get that box unchecked and to stay that way?? Even if I click to uncheck it and apply, it comes back on the next time??????

[Marc Vaughan]

Save games should be read/writable .....

PS> American version patch should be up in the next few hours if all goes to plan (we're on holiday in theory so coordinating this via. the net)

[CraigSca]

I can't use FM2005 5.02 patch on WW Soccer Manager? I thought it was the same game.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

I can't use FM2005 5.02 patch on WW Soccer Manager? I thought it was the same game.

same exact game, just different title only

[CraigSca]

That's why I'm wondering why Mark made mention of an American patch...

[cougarfreak]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

That's why I'm wondering why Mark made mention of an American patch...

NO, there's a different patch for the American version, per the SI boards. I would imagine some spellings, and different folder assignments due to the different name for the game.

[scooter]

Per SI Games website:

We are pleased to announce that we have made available a patch for Worldwide Soccer Manager 2005. This is for those customers who purchased this game in North America (please note if your box says Football Manager 2005 you should download the FM patch http://www.sigames.com/downloads.php?type=view&id=236

Please note, this patch is save game compatible. You do not need to start a new game, however for the best results it is suggested.

When you have downloaded the file and installed it by double clicking on the file (it will check your system for the current location of your WWSM game), you should view the changelist.txt file which has a list of the fixes and enhancements that we have made since the game went gold.

It was my understanding that it was essentially the same game but with different packaging (different splash screen, manual, etc.). I think if it were me, I'd download the version of the patch that corresponds to the game I have, but that's just me

[CraigSca]

I will, but I was hoping it was the same exact game, and different patches wouldn't be required.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

I will, but I was hoping it was the same exact game, and different patches wouldn't be required.

it is the exact same game...different patch because of the title directory is different when you install the patch because of the title change

everything else is the same..

[CraigSca]

Ok...if that's the case, then why did it take days to have an American version of the patch? Not trying to start a scrum or anything, but it seems odd...

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Ok...if that's the case, then why did it take days to have an American version of the patch? Not trying to start a scrum or anything, but it seems odd...

that a good question....that part does seem strange

they should of had the patch for download for the american when the first patch came out for fm 2005

[Godzilla Blitz]

The first paragraph was a bit off. I've fixed it...

Per SI Games website:

We are pleased to announce that we have made available a patch for Worldwide Soccer Manager 2005. This is for those four customers who somehow managed to hunt down and purchase this game in North America, despite our distributor's best attempts to keep the game's release a secret. (please note if your box says Football Manager 2005 you should download the FM patch http://www.sigames.com/downloads.php?type=view&id=236...

[scooter]

GB, that's funny. But seriously, someone must be finding it - as of 10:30 EST almost 300 people have downloaded the patch from the SI website.

I appreciate your making sure my post was correct