If you had to pick a Super Bowl winner...

WSUCougar · 12-21-2004, 09:00 AM

...who would it be?

I've only listed teams with 10+ wins.

albionmoonlight · 12-21-2004, 09:01 AM

New Orleans Saints (only need two wins and help to become the all powerful #6 seed in the NFC).

Butter · 12-21-2004, 09:06 AM

The Eagles, just because I don't want New England or Pittsburgh to win even though the AFC is a clearly better conference.

Raiders Army · 12-21-2004, 09:13 AM

Steelers...no brainer to me. Roethlisberger will be undefeated until next year.

Cuckoo · 12-21-2004, 09:19 AM

All of these teams have weaknesses. I think N.E. is probably the most complete, but they showed that they can be beaten as well. I tend to believe that rookies will play like rookies in the playoffs so that would throw out Pittsburgh for me, although Ben has surprised me all year, so who knows. The Eagles will still win the NFC, in my opinion, but will be overmatched in the SB. My pick: San Diego. I'm no Charger fan, but I think they're playing really well right now and have the ability to upset an Indy, N.E., or Pitt.

CleBrownsfan · 12-21-2004, 09:28 AM

** Sleeper Pick ** I’m going for which teams are hot to close the season if I had to pick a Super Bowl winner. There are not many teams that are hotter than the Buffalo Bills - so IF they make it into the post season I think they will make some noise and is my pick to win the Super
Bowl - but they have to make it there first

MizzouRah · 12-21-2004, 09:34 AM

The Pats. Until they are de-throned, they have my vote.

Todd

WSUCougar · 12-21-2004, 09:35 AM

I wouldn't want to play the Bills right now.

Butter · 12-21-2004, 09:36 AM

Bengals would've beaten Buffalo with Palmer at QB. Kitna looked horrendous.

CleBrownsfan · 12-21-2004, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Bengals would've beaten Buffalo with Palmer at QB. Kitna looked horrendous.

My Aunt would be my Uncle if she had balls to...

gottimd · 12-21-2004, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CleBrownsfan

My Aunt would be my Uncle if she had balls to...

Or you would just have two Uncles?

Each one of those teams has clearly shown a weakness, and with injuries anything is possible. I would have to say that the odds on Favorite is the AFC, and that Conference Championship will most likely be the SuperBowl. The NFC doesn't have, IMHO, one strong contender, especially now with the Eagles losing T.O. The only thing that worries me is the Big Ben on Pitt, and I think the Pats will get upset somewhere and they maybe on the downward slide of their Apex now, where as Pitt seems to be going up. Chargers don't have the D, and neither do the Colts (except Freeney), but both have explosive offenses. As usual it will come down to the Offensive Team vs. Defensive Team, which the Ravens a few years back seemed to have an edge with the strong D.

BishopMVP · 12-21-2004, 10:00 AM

Before TO went down, I'd have picked the Eagles just because they were so much more likely than the other top teams (all AFC) to make it to the Super Bowl. Now, I'd say a toss-up between Pitt and NE. Roethlisberger is a rookie, but he's not what makes the team go and should be able to cut down mistakes, rely on the run game, defense and homefield. But with Dillon healthy and their playoff XP, it's hard to keep the Pats from being right up there with Pitt. SD and Indy are good teams, but chances are they'd have to win bakc to back road games at Pitt and NE to get to the Super Bowl, and I don't see them winning both. With TO's injury and the hideously bad NFC, Atlanta is looking pretty good, but this is a team that has looked atrocious in some losses, and I'm not about to make any team that is only +18 on the year my favorite, even if they are 11-3. Buffalo and especially Carolina are both as hot right now as anyone in their conference, but are both on the playoff bubble.

gottimd · 12-21-2004, 10:02 AM

Atlanta is a Paper Champion and will be the first Division champ out of the playoffs I believe. What 11-3 gets shut out? They have not been impressive at all.

Noop · 12-21-2004, 10:14 AM

I am going with a upset pick... Atlanta.

Radii · 12-21-2004, 10:15 AM

I voted Pats. Colts haven't convinced me they can beat the Pats or Steelers, I can't vote for a rookie QB or an NFC team, and I love the Chargers but they'd likely have to beat Pittsburgh and New England on the road to make it, I don't see it happening.

I will say, I'll be rooting for the Chargers I think, tomlinson is one of my favorite players.

Oh, and if the Panthers make the playoffs, they can win a game or two, but, I don't want to talk about the Panthers much after last Saturday

Eaglesfan27 · 12-21-2004, 10:44 AM

Before T.O went down, I would have picked the Eagles. Now, I believe Pittsburgh is the most likely team to win it all with Indianapolis a close second. N.E. looked bad to me last night, and I think before last night I would have put them first. Now, I think they are 3rd most likely to win it all.

Raiders Army · 12-21-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

The Pats. Until they are de-throned, they have my vote.

Todd

The Fins did a good job making that case last night.

Samdari · 12-21-2004, 10:51 AM

I would have voted Pats for sure if they were playing at home, but now you gotta go with Pittsburgh. They basically lost the Super Bowl last night. If I were not giggling with such giddy glee at that thought, I would be disgusted that they lost the Super Bowl to a terrible team.

Desnudo · 12-21-2004, 12:26 PM

If Ty Law comes back anywhere near 100% then I'd pick the Pats. If he's not, then it's pretty obvious their secondary is going to get demolished in the playoffs. If I hear Earthwind Moreland's name called by the announcers I'll know they're doomed.

rkmsuf · 12-21-2004, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

I would have voted Pats for sure if they were playing at home, but now you gotta go with Pittsburgh. They basically lost the Super Bowl last night. If I were not giggling with such giddy glee at that thought, I would be disgusted that they lost the Super Bowl to a terrible team.

There's no way you can say they lost the Super Bowl last night. I really believe in a rematch the Pats can beat the Steelers. NE is battle tested and I don't doubt for a minute that they can go into steel town and win provided they get their secondary in order.

Franklinnoble · 12-21-2004, 12:33 PM

The Chargers.

Just because they're probably the most unlikely pick, and yet, they have a very balanced and sound football team right now.

Vinatieri for Prez · 12-21-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

There's no way you can say they lost the Super Bowl last night. I really believe in a rematch the Pats can beat the Steelers. NE is battle tested and I don't doubt for a minute that they can go into steel town and win provided they get their secondary in order.

Yep. They did it 3 years ago with a lesser quality team. The loss to the Phins doesn't bother me too much. You gotta lose sometimes. I think it can help to lose right before the playoffs - it gets you focused that you have to remain sharp and give it your all. IOW, it's a real overconfidence killer.

Crapshoot · 12-21-2004, 12:51 PM

I think the Colts. IF Edgerrin James hadnt fumbled twice on the goaline, the Patriots would have lost the season opener and the talk would be different. I think they are looking pretty damn good, and their defense is better when it has points on the board- it allows those edge rushers (Freeny and Mathis) to just fire away.

Blackadar · 12-21-2004, 12:55 PM

I got a feelin'....Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl.

rkmsuf · 12-21-2004, 12:55 PM

Problem with Freeney is he's just another guy on grass.

JasonC23 · 12-21-2004, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

Problem with Freeney is he's just another guy on grass.

Wait, he plays in the NBA?

rkmsuf · 12-21-2004, 12:59 PM

and he beats up fans

Desnudo · 12-21-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

and he beats up fans

Also, I heard he and Peyton Manning never visit their grandmothers.

Fouts · 12-21-2004, 01:27 PM

Chargers! You can't run against them. Let's just hope they don't play Indy in the playoffs.

MizzouRah · 12-21-2004, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

The Fins did a good job making that case last night.

The Phins also beat the Rams.

Also that wasn't a playoff game.

Todd

WSUCougar · 12-21-2004, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Chargers!

Yeah, but you're biased.

Interesting that the Jets aren't getting a single vote. Can't say that I disagree with that, I just find it interesting.

The_herd · 12-21-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Noop

I am going with a upset pick... Atlanta.

What happened to the dolphins?

jbmagic · 12-21-2004, 02:45 PM

pats defense taking a hit with the lost to CB Ty Law and Poole

Briggs · 12-21-2004, 02:58 PM

It's hard to see anyone stopping the Eagles in the NFC, but they'll lose to whoever gets there from the AFC. Steelers, Pats & Chargers are the more complete teams, I can't see Indy getting there...

jbmagic · 12-21-2004, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Briggs

It's hard to see anyone stopping the Eagles in the NFC, but they'll lose to whoever gets there from the AFC. Steelers, Pats & Chargers are the more complete teams, I can't see Indy getting there...

i think the Panthers if they make it in, can beat the Eagles

sooner333 · 12-21-2004, 05:13 PM

Why aren't the Niners on the list?!?!!?!??!

Briggs · 12-21-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

i think the Panthers if they make it in, can beat the Eagles

I'd love to see that happen, I don't see it happening, but I would love it to...

Antmeister · 12-21-2004, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Chargers! You can't run against them. Let's just hope they don't play Indy in the playoffs.

Ditto! Go Chargers!

MIJB#19 · 12-22-2004, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sooner333

Why aren't the Niners on the list?!?!!?!??!

Welcome to the 3rd millenium.

Bubba Wheels · 12-22-2004, 11:37 PM

Lions are still eligible for playoffs at 5-9. Wonder what the pay-out from Vegas would be if they made it all the way.

Chubby · 12-22-2004, 11:45 PM

Da Bills!

Suicane75 · 12-23-2004, 02:50 AM

I voted for the Eagles cause I just have a feeling that this is their year, I dont think theyre gonna lose if they make it and I think they'll make it.

The AFC playoffs are gonna be a fun thing to watch.

View Poll Results: Pick the Super Bowl winner (as of 12/21/04)
Steelers	29	26.13%
Pats	27	24.32%
Colts	27	24.32%
Chargers	10	9.01%
Jets	0	0%
Eagles	7	6.31%
Falcons	4	3.60%
The rest of the field	7	6.31%
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12-21-2004, 09:06 AM	#3
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	The Eagles, just because I don't want New England or Pittsburgh to win even though the AFC is a clearly better conference. __________________ My listening habits

12-21-2004, 09:19 AM	#5
Cuckoo College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmond, OK	All of these teams have weaknesses. I think N.E. is probably the most complete, but they showed that they can be beaten as well. I tend to believe that rookies will play like rookies in the playoffs so that would throw out Pittsburgh for me, although Ben has surprised me all year, so who knows. The Eagles will still win the NFC, in my opinion, but will be overmatched in the SB. My pick: San Diego. I'm no Charger fan, but I think they're playing really well right now and have the ability to upset an Indy, N.E., or Pitt. __________________ Commissioner - North American Football League Dallas Cowboys GM

12-21-2004, 09:35 AM	#8
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	I wouldn't want to play the Bills right now. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

12-21-2004, 09:36 AM	#9
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Bengals would've beaten Buffalo with Palmer at QB. Kitna looked horrendous. __________________ My listening habits

12-21-2004, 09:01 AM	#2
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	New Orleans Saints (only need two wins and help to become the all powerful #6 seed in the NFC).

12-21-2004, 09:13 AM	#4
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Steelers...no brainer to me. Roethlisberger will be undefeated until next year.

12-21-2004, 09:28 AM	#6
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	Sleeper Pick I’m going for which teams are hot to close the season if I had to pick a Super Bowl winner. There are not many teams that are hotter than the Buffalo Bills - so IF they make it into the post season I think they will make some noise and is my pick to win the Super Bowl - but they have to make it there first __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders Last edited by CleBrownsfan : 12-21-2004 at 09:36 AM.

12-21-2004, 09:34 AM	#7
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	The Pats. Until they are de-throned, they have my vote. Todd

12-21-2004, 10:00 AM	#12
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Before TO went down, I'd have picked the Eagles just because they were so much more likely than the other top teams (all AFC) to make it to the Super Bowl. Now, I'd say a toss-up between Pitt and NE. Roethlisberger is a rookie, but he's not what makes the team go and should be able to cut down mistakes, rely on the run game, defense and homefield. But with Dillon healthy and their playoff XP, it's hard to keep the Pats from being right up there with Pitt. SD and Indy are good teams, but chances are they'd have to win bakc to back road games at Pitt and NE to get to the Super Bowl, and I don't see them winning both. With TO's injury and the hideously bad NFC, Atlanta is looking pretty good, but this is a team that has looked atrocious in some losses, and I'm not about to make any team that is only +18 on the year my favorite, even if they are 11-3. Buffalo and especially Carolina are both as hot right now as anyone in their conference, but are both on the playoff bubble.

12-21-2004, 10:02 AM	#13
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Atlanta is a Paper Champion and will be the first Division champ out of the playoffs I believe. What 11-3 gets shut out? They have not been impressive at all. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

12-21-2004, 10:14 AM	#14
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	I am going with a upset pick... Atlanta. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

12-21-2004, 10:15 AM	#15
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I voted Pats. Colts haven't convinced me they can beat the Pats or Steelers, I can't vote for a rookie QB or an NFC team, and I love the Chargers but they'd likely have to beat Pittsburgh and New England on the road to make it, I don't see it happening. I will say, I'll be rooting for the Chargers I think, tomlinson is one of my favorite players. Oh, and if the Panthers make the playoffs, they can win a game or two, but, I don't want to talk about the Panthers much after last Saturday

12-21-2004, 10:44 AM	#16
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Before T.O went down, I would have picked the Eagles. Now, I believe Pittsburgh is the most likely team to win it all with Indianapolis a close second. N.E. looked bad to me last night, and I think before last night I would have put them first. Now, I think they are 3rd most likely to win it all. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

12-21-2004, 10:51 AM	#18
Samdari Roster Filler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cicero	I would have voted Pats for sure if they were playing at home, but now you gotta go with Pittsburgh. They basically lost the Super Bowl last night. If I were not giggling with such giddy glee at that thought, I would be disgusted that they lost the Super Bowl to a terrible team. __________________ http://www.nateandellie.net Now featuring twice the babies for the same low price!

12-21-2004, 12:26 PM	#19
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	If Ty Law comes back anywhere near 100% then I'd pick the Pats. If he's not, then it's pretty obvious their secondary is going to get demolished in the playoffs. If I hear Earthwind Moreland's name called by the announcers I'll know they're doomed. Last edited by Desnudo : 12-21-2004 at 12:26 PM.

12-21-2004, 12:33 PM	#21
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	The Chargers. Just because they're probably the most unlikely pick, and yet, they have a very balanced and sound football team right now.

12-21-2004, 12:51 PM	#23
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	I think the Colts. IF Edgerrin James hadnt fumbled twice on the goaline, the Patriots would have lost the season opener and the talk would be different. I think they are looking pretty damn good, and their defense is better when it has points on the board- it allows those edge rushers (Freeny and Mathis) to just fire away.

12-21-2004, 12:55 PM	#24
Blackadar Retired Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fantasyland	I got a feelin'....Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl.

12-21-2004, 12:55 PM	#25
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	Problem with Freeney is he's just another guy on grass. __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

12-21-2004, 12:59 PM	#27
rkmsuf Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2001	and he beats up fans __________________ "Don't you have homes?" -- Judge Smales

12-21-2004, 01:27 PM	#29
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Chargers! You can't run against them. Let's just hope they don't play Indy in the playoffs.

12-21-2004, 02:45 PM	#33
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	pats defense taking a hit with the lost to CB Ty Law and Poole

12-21-2004, 02:58 PM	#34
Briggs n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cardiff, Wales.	It's hard to see anyone stopping the Eagles in the NFC, but they'll lose to whoever gets there from the AFC. Steelers, Pats & Chargers are the more complete teams, I can't see Indy getting there...

12-21-2004, 05:13 PM	#36
sooner333 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Norman, OK	Why aren't the Niners on the list?!?!!?!??!

12-22-2004, 11:37 PM	#40
Bubba Wheels College Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Lions are still eligible for playoffs at 5-9. Wonder what the pay-out from Vegas would be if they made it all the way.

12-22-2004, 11:45 PM	#41
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Da Bills!

12-23-2004, 02:50 AM	#42
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	I voted for the Eagles cause I just have a feeling that this is their year, I dont think theyre gonna lose if they make it and I think they'll make it. The AFC playoffs are gonna be a fun thing to watch.

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