The Final Resting Place for All Smart Games

[Deft]

This is my first post on this forum but not my first in this realm. I have just started playing FOF after a year and half hiatus from the scorching atrocity of Sierra FBP1999.

I have played all the games posted here (FOF, Civ2, and FPS). The common theme is all three of these games are tailored for a more discerning gamer. We are not joystick jockeys or pre-teens or fair weather sports fans. We are smart, computer saive, and proactive involving what we want. That is the crux of the problem.

What happens is a new game is created by one of our own, FOF, probably the most noteworthy, and it takes the market by storm. Websites go up, communities are started, and word of mouth goes rampant. The problem then begins. A large publisher buy out the start up, and decides they would like to either take that market. The publisher is used to selling software to soccer moms, computer neophytes and game console wannabees and doesn't realize the true market of its purchase. We, in turn, fall in love and demand more for next year. We light the flame, that is fanned by the publisher and burns the original staff. The end game plays as follows, sequel is released even though quite adequate it is destroyed by it ravenous fan base who feel disillusioned and don't buy based on rumor. The publisher panics shuts down the title and realizes selling Barbie games and rodeo sports sell better and nobody cares if they don't work.

The saving grace is these games were always made by the fan for the fan and that won't go away. Sorry about the diatribe.

[MrIllini]

It's ok, we forgive you.

[Raiders Army]

What was this post about? Why did it take over a year for a response?

[Ragone]

Talk about your timestamp bug.. I half expected to read that Derek Smart Committed suicide when i opened this thread

[Raiders Army]

This was the oldest thread on the board...just bumped it so it wasn't the oldest anymore. Bored at work.

[Noop]

Now I read this twice... the point is what? I am not trying to be mean just asking because i would like to respond correctly.

[Ragone]

hmm, think he's talking about fanboy's who hype up a game with a sequel coming out..

who then proceed to rip said sequel to shreds even though its clearly superior to the first version of said game..

but, that was a hard read for sure

[cuervo72]

Hey....you're close to a copyright infringement there pally........

[cuervo72]

(damned ordering bug)

[sachmo71]

I'm taking up his cause.

Down with game publishers!!!!
Viva boardgames!

[cuervo72]

(or have I just never noticed the 71 before???)

[WSUCougar]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

(or have I just never noticed the 71 before???)

That.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by WSUCougar

That.

Damn, I really don't pay attention do I?

[WSUCougar]

See, what's really too bad is that no one here (except Bucc) is old enough - like my wisened self - to remember the classic sachmo70 model. With all the chrome and stuff? It was a sight to see.

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Damn, I really don't pay attention do I?

Ha ha!

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

This doesn't have to be the case, FM (soccer management sim - doing fairly well in Europe) has been successfully published by SI for over ten years and remained independant.

In recent years we've been trying to expand and ensure that similar games in other sports such as Hockey (NHL EHM) and Baseball (OOTP) get decent publishing and promotion, while also keeping the original teams and passion in them that made them great in the first place ....

Hope this helps,

Marc

4 years later this must be a relief for him to read this.

[Marc Vaughan]

Originally Posted by Deft

This is my first post on this forum but not my first in this realm. I have just started playing FOF after a year and half hiatus from the scorching atrocity of Sierra FBP1999.

I have played all the games posted here (FOF, Civ2, and FPS). The common theme is all three of these games are tailored for a more discerning gamer. We are not joystick jockeys or pre-teens or fair weather sports fans. We are smart, computer saive, and proactive involving what we want. That is the crux of the problem.

What happens is a new game is created by one of our own, FOF, probably the most noteworthy, and it takes the market by storm. Websites go up, communities are started, and word of mouth goes rampant. The problem then begins. A large publisher buy out the start up, and decides they would like to either take that market. The publisher is used to selling software to soccer moms, computer neophytes and game console wannabees and doesn't realize the true market of its purchase. We, in turn, fall in love and demand more for next year. We light the flame, that is fanned by the publisher and burns the original staff. The end game plays as follows, sequel is released even though quite adequate it is destroyed by it ravenous fan base who feel disillusioned and don't buy based on rumor. The publisher panics shuts down the title and realizes selling Barbie games and rodeo sports sell better and nobody cares if they don't work.

The saving grace is these games were always made by the fan for the fan and that won't go away. Sorry about the diatribe.

This doesn't have to be the case, FM (soccer management sim - doing fairly well in Europe) has been successfully published by SI for over ten years and remained independant.

In recent years we've been trying to expand and ensure that similar games in other sports such as Hockey (NHL EHM) and Baseball (OOTP) get decent publishing and promotion, while also keeping the original teams and passion in them that made them great in the first place ....

Hope this helps,

Marc

[JonInMiddleGA]

Sheesh, talk about your slow response from a gaming company

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

What was this post about? Why did it take over a year for a response?

It's funny because you just did something that MrIllini always did back in 2002....

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/for...hread.php?t=22

[Raiders Army]

Hey, I'm no vulture!