OT: The 3rd annual Chan Ho Park blows thread

[MikeVic]

Yes! Go Park!

[HornedFrog Purple]

If they consider Scott Erickson struggling, what do they consider Chan Ho's career with the Rangers?

By the way, they are starting a 6'10 kid from Princeton, Chris Young tonight.

[HornedFrog Purple]

dola

I have no idea what the major league record is for number of different starters in a season, but this is the Rangers 16th. Considering their decent record, that is amazing in itself.

[Ksyrup]

Yeah, they're pretty high on Young:


Pitching instructor John Wetteland liked what he saw when he went to observe Chris Young, and now Young is likely to start for the Rangers Tuesday.

Young, 6-foot-10, had an overall record of 8-5 with a 3.87 ERA in the minors this year. Then, with Wetteland watching, he allowed one run on two hits in seven innings against Memphis. He is 3-0 with a 1.48 ERA in five starts at Oklahoma since being promoted from Double-A.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Well since he played center for Princeton's basketball team, if he sucks he can at least teach the pitching staff the motion offense.

I have been reading some good stuff about him from his work in the minors for a couple months now, but they wanted to keep him in AAA.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by HornedFrog Purple

dola

I have no idea what the major league record is for number of different starters in a season, but this is the Rangers 16th. Considering their decent record, that is amazing in itself.

Last year, the Royals sent out 15 pitchers to start games and they had a winning record. I would think that teams with awful records would be even worse off.

SI

[sterlingice]

The hunt is on again! From last night's box score:

C. Park (W, 3-4)

6.0

4

2

2

3

4

0

5.50

SI

[Ksyrup]

That'll earn him another start!

[HornedFrog Purple]

luck

For the season, the ace is now 3-4, 5.50 ERA

Updated predictions:

Me: 4-19 5.43 ERA
MikeVic: 8-14 4.86 ERA
Quiksand: No more than 10 losses
Corbes: 4-7 4.93 ERA in 20 starts
Senator: Won't make it to the All-Star Game
KevinNU7: Long reliever by August
sterlingice: 6-13 5.17 ERA
Tasan: 10-10, 4.58 ERA
Vince: 16-8, 3.53 ERA
PilotMan: 11-13, 4.49 ERA
oykib: 12-10, 28 GS, 4.26 ERA, 181 IP, 129 Ks.
Logan: California Penal League
MrBug708: 11-13, 5.13 ERA
Racer: 12-11, 4.38 ERA
GridIron: 15-9, 3.71 ERA
Shorty3281: 9-9, 4.14 ERA
JeeberD: 8-14, 5.28 ERA
Fonzie: 9-12, 4.81 ERA
sachmo71: some crazy man wearing a TCU t-shirt wacks Chan Ho with an flying axe
SplitPersonality1: 3-14, 6.21 ERA
Primelord: 7-13, 5.11 ERA

Technically Senator is out and KevinNU7 is hanging by a thread. Logan is in trouble too.

I am actually winning the ERA. (5.43 to 5.50)

[Ksyrup]

Man, one more decent outing, and Park might have to be upgraded to "mediocre."

[HornedFrog Purple]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Man, one hundred and thirty one more decent outings, and Park might have to be upgraded to "mediocre."

I agree.

The ace's line vs. Minnesota.

7.1 IP, 8 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 1 HR

He actually didn't lose the game so his record stays at 3-4 5.14 ERA

Updated predictions:

Me: 4-19 5.43 ERA
MikeVic: 8-14 4.86 ERA
Quiksand: No more than 10 losses
Corbes: 4-7 4.93 ERA in 20 starts
Senator: Won't make it to the All-Star Game eliminated
KevinNU7: Long reliever by August eliminated
sterlingice: 6-13 5.17 ERA
Tasan: 10-10, 4.58 ERA
Vince: 16-8, 3.53 ERA
PilotMan: 11-13, 4.49 ERA
oykib: 12-10, 28 GS, 4.26 ERA, 181 IP, 129 Ks.
Logan: California Penal League
MrBug708: 11-13, 5.13 ERA
Racer: 12-11, 4.38 ERA
GridIron: 15-9, 3.71 ERA
Shorty3281: 9-9, 4.14 ERA
JeeberD: 8-14, 5.28 ERA
Fonzie: 9-12, 4.81 ERA
sachmo71: some crazy man wearing a TCU t-shirt wacks Chan Ho with an flying axe
SplitPersonality1: 3-14, 6.21 ERA
Primelord: 7-13, 5.11 ERA

MrBug is now closest in ERA, SplitPersonality is right on for wins, and Corbes is closest in losses.

[Ksyrup]

At least give the guy credit. He didn't lose it because Cordero blew the win.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Well considering they have paid him about $3 million per quality start this season, he is getting all the credit he is going to get from me.

[Ksyrup]

I'm just screwing with you. The guy is a monumental disaster. But, he's doing his small part in keeping the team in contention right now, so there's at least more return on the investment then if he was still in AAA.

Kinda like a stock that used to be $10 a share, up to $.03 from $.02. But hey, it's a gain!

[HornedFrog Purple]

To be honest, I would love to see Park succeed as a Rangers fan. But Scott Boras hoodwinked Hicks and Hart. Park had back problems with the Dodgers though they didn't classify it as chronic at the time.

And Park hasn't done anything to endear himself to a Rangers fan. Rusty Greer has been on the shelf for I forget how long but the guy makes appearances and doesn't make excuses.

Management here finally ran out of excuses. First it was his delivery, then his hamstrings, then whatever else. Just admit you blew it Hicks.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by HornedFrog Purple

To be honest, I would love to see Park succeed as a Rangers fan. But Scott Boras hoodwinked Hicks and Hart. Park had back problems with the Dodgers though they didn't classify it as chronic at the time.

And Park hasn't done anything to endear himself to a Rangers fan. Rusty Greer has been on the shelf for I forget how long but the guy makes appearances and doesn't make excuses.

Management here finally ran out of excuses. First it was his delivery, then his hamstrings, then whatever else. Just admit you blew it Hicks.

No- they didnt hoodwink anyone- Park passed a full medical, and its the teams responsibility to check the medical history and make sure. Boras, despite what people may wish, is not a bad guy- he's just trying to get his client as much as possible.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Point taken, but no he is trying to get himself as much as possible.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by HornedFrog Purple

Point taken, but no he is trying to get himself as much as possible.

undoubtedly- that's business.

[SackAttack]

4 2/3 IP, 4 ER on 6 H and 4 BB. Park is now 3-7 with a 5.89 ERA. It was his 14th start of the year. With 5 games left, and *maybe* one start left for Park, I think Corbes has gotta be declared the winner. He predicted 4-7 with a 4.93 ERA in 20 starts.

[Senator]

this is a travesty

[HornedFrog Purple]

F Chan Ho

[Ksyrup]

From SI's Truth & Rumors section:


Talks between the Mets and Cubs will turn serious only if Minaya is convinced Sosa still can be a force in the middle of the lineup and not be a major disruption in the clubhouse. Cubs GM Jim Hendry did find one club that was interested in Sosa. The Rangers offered pitcher Chan Ho Park for him, and Hendry politely declined.
-- Chicago Tribune

[rkmsuf]

Does that mean Sosa has jumped the shark?

[Radii]

I think the cubs "politely declining" means that they haven't jumped the shark just quite yet.

[HornedFrog Purple]

My god, did the genius John Hart actually think that was a legitimate offer? How in the world did he make that offer with a straight face?

Forget everything I said about John Hart in the past. I thought he was borderline retarded, now I am not so sure he is borderline.

Oh F Chan Ho

[Ksyrup]

I agree.

It would be one thing if Park's contract ended in 2005, and the Rangers were taking Sosa's 2006 off of the Cubs' hands. There's at least some value there beyond what value (read: none) Park would provide. But Park is signed through 2006 at about $13M per year. So the Cubs would be saving about $5M per season, and getting Park in exchange for Sosa? Something doesn't seem right, but I only report what I read.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Actually the Rangers should just give Park to the Cubs and pay his contract just so I can count how many moonshots from the ace leave Wrigley. It would be more entertaining than predicting his Loss-Loss record.

[Ksyrup]

They could stick Park in between Prior and Wood in the rotation to throw the other team's hitters "off balance." He might have a chance to succeed!

[Radii]

Originally Posted by HornedFrog Purple

Actually the Rangers should just give Park to the Cubs and pay his contract just so I can count how many moonshots from the ace leave Wrigley. It would be more entertaining than predicting his Loss-Loss record.

As a Cubs fan, let me be the first to say "no thank you"

[HornedFrog Purple]

If chance to succeed = going one inning giving up less than 6 runs then I agree with you.

[Ksyrup]

The Rangers wouldn't pay enough of Chan Ho Park's salary to make a deal involving Denny Neagle and Charles Johnson work, the Denver Post reports. Texas also reportedly was turned down on a Park-for-Sammy Sosa proposal. Park is owed $29 million over the next two seasons. Nov. 11 - 1:22 pm et More rumors. Denny Neagle? His contract is going to outlive his career by several years, it appears.

[DeToxRox]

ha. chan ho park in coors field. that could be a blast to watch on a weekly basis.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

ha. chan ho park in coors field. that could be a blast to watch on a weekly basis.

My guess is you would see more than a blast a week actually.

CR

[corbes]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

4 2/3 IP, 4 ER on 6 H and 4 BB. Park is now 3-7 with a 5.89 ERA. It was his 14th start of the year. With 5 games left, and *maybe* one start left for Park, I think Corbes has gotta be declared the winner. He predicted 4-7 with a 4.93 ERA in 20 starts.

*places trophy on mantle next to video game character draft trophy*

[Ksyrup]

Might this end the annual thread?



Chan Ho Park, a monumental free-agent bust who is down to his last chance in Texas. The Rangers are tiring rapidly of Park, who was 4-7, 5.46 last year and is 14-18 in three years since the Rangers gave him a five-year, $65 million deal. They are said, in fact, to be willing to pay off the remaining $20 million-plus on his contract if he continues to struggle.
-- Seattle Times

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Might this end the annual thread?



Chan Ho Park, a monumental free-agent bust who is down to his last chance in Texas. The Rangers are tiring rapidly of Park, who was 4-7, 5.46 last year and is 14-18 in three years since the Rangers gave him a five-year, $65 million deal. They are said, in fact, to be willing to pay off the remaining $20 million-plus on his contract if he continues to struggle.
-- Seattle Times

Late relief.

[Senator]

Originally Posted by corbes

*places trophy on mantle next to video game character draft trophy*

I should have won. The man went down like a wilting flower and only played sparingly at the end of the season to have a chance to play in this one. Horrible

[Ksyrup]

Mark your calendars:


Although he's been penciled in as the Rangers' third starter all winter, Chan Ho Park likely will start the fourth game of the season.

That will allow him to pitch against the Mariners in Seattle, where he worked seven shutout innings on the final day of last season. Park isn't a good bet to have any fantasy value this season. Maybe he'll bounce back somewhat, but a league-average starter is the best that the Rangers can hope for. Feb. 17 - 5:10 am et

[sterlingice]

Chan Ho started for the Rangers today and he's doing a bang up job (not that Jose Lima did anything to write home about).

Kansas City 7, Texas 7

Preview - Box Score - Recap

Line Score

CAC 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E - - - - - - - - - - - - KANSAS CITY 2 1 4 7 TEXAS 4 3 7 (IN TOP 3) HOME RUNS: KAN - RUBEN GOTAY (1) OFF CHAN HO PARK IN THE 2ND

[cartman]

It's about time to start the 4th annual Chan Ho Park blows thread.

[hhiipp]

Chan Ho would make a good little league batting practice pitcher, make all the little kids proud of themselves when they take him out of park.

[Ksyrup]

I'm nothing if not on-the-ball...



Chan Ho Park allowed three runs in three innings, but actually had an encouraging outing against the Cubs today.

Park gave up four hits -- all first-inning singles -- walked none and struck out three. One of the hits was a grounder that conceivably could have been a double-play ball, and another was a bloop to left that fell for a two-run single. He retired the final seven batters he faced. Mar. 9 - 8:59 pm et

[Ksyrup]

Chan Ho Park worked four scoreless innings today against the Angels. He gave up one hit and struck out two.

That'll help. Park, who entered the game with a 10.80 ERA in five innings, is in some danger of losing his rotation spot to Ricardo Rodriguez. ''I was being aggressive with my fastball,'' he said. ''Obviously, good command means a lot.'' Mar. 14 - 8:52 pm et

[Ksyrup]

According to Peter Gammons...


The Rangers have been given clearance by ownership to eat Chan Ho Park's contract, if they decide he can't help them this season. That's $14.72 million for 2005 and $15.99 million for 2006.



Ouch!

Might this mean no 4th Annual Thread?

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Ouch!

Might this mean no 4th Annual Thread?

Not if I have anything to say about it!!!