Talk About Shock And Awe: Anyone read SI about Uday Hussein???

[Ben E Lou]

I grabbed this week's SI and read it over lunch. I lost my appetite in utter shock when I read the article about Saddam's son, Uday Hussein. This guy is unbelievable. Apparently Uday is Iraq's top Olympic official. The entire article can be found HERE, but here are a few choice excerpts:

With a wave of Uday's arm the manacled boxer was led into the room by Iraqi secret service. Sitting behind a dark wood desk beneath an oversized portrait of himself, Uday began his tirade. "In sport you can win or you can lose. I told you not to come home if you didn't win." His voice rising, he walked around the desk and gave the boxer a lesson. "This is how you box," he screamed as he threw a left and a right straight to the fighter's face. Blood dribbled from the athlete's nose as Uday launched another round of punches. Then, using the electric prod he was famous for carrying, Uday jolted the boxer in the chest.

By 10 he was accompanying his father to the torture chamber at Qasr-al-Nihayyah (the Palace of the End, where many political enemies, including deposed King Faisal II, were killed) to watch Saddam deal with dissidents. By 16 he bragged of committing his first murder, telling classmates he had killed a teacher who had upbraided him in front of a girlfriend.

"I was tortured four times after matches. One time, after a friendly [match] against Jordan in Amman that we lost 2-0, Uday had me and three teammates taken to the prison. When we arrived, they took off our shirts, tied our feet together and pulled our knees over a bar as we lay on our backs. Then they dragged us over pavement and concrete, pulling the skin off our backs. Then they pulled us through a sandpit to get sand in our backs. Finally, they made us climb a ladder and jump into a vat of raw sewage. They wanted to get our wounds infected...."

"I was the referee of a match between Al-Shorta and the club of the air force," Kadoim says. "I was told that Shorta should win, but I refused to fix the match. It ended at 2-2. I was taken by Uday's men to Al-Radwaniya prison, where they used hoses and a cane to beat me three times a day. My punishment was 10 beatings each time. When I was bleeding, they forced me into a pool of sewage. The guards laughed and said, 'You should have let them win.' I still am in pain nearly a year later..."

"Animal" is too kind....

[Fritz]

I read this.

The crappy part is these athletes would be bring the wrath of Uday on their family if they defect.

[Maple Leafs]

Yes, fine, but please keep in mind that George W. Bush has cut taxes and was involved in a very close election. Let's not lose sight of who the real tyrant is here.

[mrskippy]

Originally posted by Maple Leafs
Yes, fine, but please keep in mind that George W. Bush has cut taxes and was involved in a very close election. Let's not lose sight of who the real tyrant is here.

The residents of Miami?

[mrskippy]

DOLA

Or Al Gore?

[Craptacular]

I read this while on the throne over the weekend ... I was tempted to wipe with the article. Just another reason to wipe that clan off the face of the earth.

[Bonegavel]

Originally posted by Maple Leafs
Yes, fine, but please keep in mind that George W. Bush has cut taxes and was involved in a very close election. Let's not lose sight of who the real tyrant is here.

Ignore this if you were being sarcastic, but could you explain this post?

[bigdawg2003]

Maple Leafs' comment HAD to be a sarcastic remark. And if for some amazing reason it wasn't, lie to us so we don't have to deal with another firestorm.

[Airhog]

Yeah, but I also saw footage on one of the stations, that interview him, and said the same thing.

[CAsterling]

If you think Uday is bad, the stories about his brother Qusay are far worse.

[korme]

Maple Leafs was not being sarcastic.

Damn Canadians.

[tucker342]

Uday is one sick fuck. What did Qusay do?

[CAsterling]

Originally posted by tucker342
Uday is one sick fuck. What did Qusay do?

Here's one story
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These were the sons of Saddam Hussein: Uday, 15, tall for his age, with bulged-out eyes and protruding teeth; and Qusay, 13, smaller, but the image of his father at the same age.

As an official read a list of crimes, the boys raised their guns and took aim. Before the politician could utter a word, their first shots slammed into his torso, throwing him against the wall. The police escort then drew their own weapons and fired. As dozens of bullets riddled the body, it jerked spastically. The boys kept firing until the body was nothing more than a bloody lump and some tatters of cloth.

Uday, glassy-eyed and giggling moronically, was transfixed by the mangled corpse and continued pulling the trigger on his empty gun. Qusay, eerily calm as if his pulse had not risen above a resting rate, turned to the guard next to him. He asked in a whisper, “Do you have any more bullets?”
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I suppose it depends which you consider worse, the psycotic one Uday - or the calm one who kills and tortures as a business.

If i remember this story correctly Qusay visited a prison and decided it was too crowded, so he ordered the warden to execute 2000 men, women and children the next day to make more room (executions were carried out as ordered). He also made sure, every guard/person in the prison executed at least one prisoner personally to ensure they all had blood on their hands.

Qusay is the head of all the internal security forces and on a daily basis signs execution orders, orders women raped in front of their family (something he used to personally take part in), he once had a General of the Iraqi army tortured and murdered in front of him for speaking to him in what he perceived was a less than respectful tone when delivering a message from Saddam.

Uday is kind of like a Columbian Drug lord in the 80's, he thinks there is nothing he can't do to satisfy his own pleasures, and wants to be a playboy - although he is now out of favour with Saddam and crippled so those days are pretty much over. Uday is likely to perform frequent but uncordinated bursts of sick behaviour, Qusay is too disciplined to do the same, he will make sure his nasty behaviour is co-ordinated and well planned to ensure the maximum efficiency and cause the maximum distress to whomever it is being perpetrated upon.

The stories about Uday tend to be a couple/few years old, as he now has no real power and very little influence any more, Qusay would have been overseeing/performing torture and signing death warrants at least up until the invasion started.

Qusay shows no emotions at any of the things he does - torture is just a means to an end, rape and murder just tools at his disposal. He is an expert at personally inflicting torture as a means to get information or confessions, and has a good knowledge of how to physcologically torture people.
In fact Qusay would be a far better dictator than his father, he is not paranoid, nor does he want world respect, he just wants power and once he has it will use it to get what ever he decides is important to him.

The above glowing reference doesn't mean I like him, just that i recognise his talents as a well rounded complete and utter bastard, who isn't unstable. He is also head of the republican Guard and in charge of the hiding/creation of chemical weapons, and one of his favourite tricks to to get something built, execute the workers, then transport the executioners to a remote location and have the executioners executed.

Out of the two of them Qusay has ordered/taken part in thousands more murders/rapes/tortures, and will cause far more pain in doing so. Uday tortures for fun and whilst its horrible, people have a very small chance of living with Uday upset at them and no chance with Qusay.

Apologies for the long reply, and all the spelling mistakes there are bound to be in the text.

[Logan]

Maxim had an article on Saddam's sons about 2 years ago. I'll try and dig up the issue so I can give all of you exactly when it was printed, but needless to say I've had some pretty strong feelings about how sick those 2 bastards are. Basically, imagine Saddam, only about 50 times worse.

EDIT: It was in the September 2001 issue (yeah, eerie...), the one with Meadow Soprano on the cover.

EDIT #2: Here's a link from the archives. Excellent read, even though you lose a little without the pictures...

[Logan]

bump for anyone who wants to read the article...