I am extremely pissed with PayPal

MacroGuru · 06-18-2005, 10:33 AM

So I go to my account today to pull out some cash, and I am told I can not.

I go into my account, and there is money in my balance....however, available balance is sitting at 0.

So I am thinking it's a glitch....

Go to my bank this morning, and I have $3036 dollars in charges through my PayPal account with gamespy....

Now this is where I am get pissed, no emails for the charge....nothing.

I am now on the phone with them and I they have transferred me to the resolution center because the person on the phone couldn't see the charges.....

I am going to freaking flip!

timmynausea · 06-18-2005, 10:38 AM

Yikes.

Joe · 06-18-2005, 10:40 AM

did you click on one of the ads at the top of FOFC?

MacroGuru · 06-18-2005, 10:49 AM

Nope, I have had this subscription to gamespy for years....It has never done anything like this...And PayPal is saying they don't see the charges on my account...this is a freaking joke...I am now being transferred to their banking dept....

I was also told from the Resolutions rep that I will need a statement from my bank proving these charges.....

Dutch · 06-18-2005, 10:49 AM

Is it just a glitch or do you really owe them $3k????

MacroGuru · 06-18-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Is it just a glitch or do you really owe them $3k????

It's a glitch, but I am beginning to wondered if my account has been hacked and someone has created a second account with my information..

st.cronin · 06-18-2005, 10:56 AM

Of course you know, this means war.

gottimd · 06-18-2005, 11:12 AM

A glitch? I wonder how many people actually dont pay attention or bother to call and pay the money. I guess thats how they finance their lawsuits.

amdaily · 06-18-2005, 11:24 AM

Google Preparing to Challenge Ebay's PayPal

According to a WSJ report (sub), Google is preparing to introduce an electronic payment system later this year, similar to that of PayPal. The service is code named Google Wallet.

http://www.searchenginelowdown.com/2...nge-ebays.html

MacroGuru · 06-18-2005, 11:26 AM

My wife went to the bank and was able to get a print out of half the charges because drive thruis the only thing open and they didn't want to tie the line up.

So I have Auth# ranging from 77161 to 77606 all incrementing numerically....

I am now back on the phone with PayPal....

The thing that chaps me is I am a premier business member with them, I have churned quite a bit of money through here due to me running my e-bay business for the year I was unemployed and had to make some money....

Not one glitch, until now.....

The wife is irate, chewing ass, and telling me to close the account....which is probably going to happen now.

sovereignstar · 06-18-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Of course you know, this means war.

Let's do this.

MacroGuru · 06-18-2005, 11:37 AM

Well....looks like I can't do shit till Monday....Happy Fucking Fathers day....

Thank god, I have a playoff game tonight.....which reminds me, I need to update the Dynasty...

Franklinnoble · 06-18-2005, 11:50 PM

PayPal is teh suck.

I hope Google has them for breakfast. I'll switch in a heartbeat.

Joe · 06-19-2005, 01:14 AM

I just thought of this, but is it possible you got an email from a phishing scam claiming to be from paypal and got scammed that way? It would make sense with what's happened.

DeToxRox · 06-19-2005, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Let's do this.

FYI - One of my best friends moms is Ellen Sandweiss, the infamous women raped by the tree in Evil Dead.

My friend is auditioning for her moms part in the new Evil Dead remake. It's pretty sweet.

ShaqFu · 06-19-2005, 11:36 AM

Problem with Google, GreenZap, or anyone else, is that PayPal has the market cornered. It is also so well integrated into eBay, that anyone else is going to have a really hard time. The only way any other service will work is if they integrate with eBay's API and that isn't gonna happen. The eBay-PayPal integrations allows for Buy It Now to work so well and makes it easy to pay before the seller ever contacts you.

oliegirl · 06-19-2005, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

FYI - One of my best friends moms is Ellen Sandweiss, the infamous women raped by the tree in Evil Dead.

My friend is auditioning for her moms part in the new Evil Dead remake. It's pretty sweet.

raped by a tree?

Obviously I have never seen this movie...now I am not so sure I would want to.

MacroGuru · 06-19-2005, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George W Bush

I just thought of this, but is it possible you got an email from a phishing scam claiming to be from paypal and got scammed that way? It would make sense with what's happened.

Nope.....I will admit, I can be a moron at times, but I am not that stupid....

Anyways, just a brief update...we caught this at 9 am Saturday morning, the banks fraud prevention went on to catch this at around 3 pm Saturday afternoon....this was $20,000 later on the account...it seems the dumbass teller at the bank that morning didn't drop a block on the charge after being told it isn't valid.

So now my account is close to $20,000 in the hole, which I know I am not liable for, but still...it's pretty funny...this is leading to a couple of things.

1) I am closing my account with the bank I am at

2) I am moving to a new bank and opening two accounts

3) I am attaching my paypal account to the 2nd account I open, and that will be my online account...if I need to purchase anything online, I will move money from one account to another.

4) I am still on my wifes shit list, and it is daddy's day.....bah!

ShaqFu · 06-19-2005, 06:44 PM

Is it possible that you were one of the CardSystem International victims? Was this directly out of your checking account or was it using your debit/check card?

Pyser · 06-19-2005, 07:22 PM

i just closed my paypal account.

hear too many horror stories.

MacroGuru · 06-19-2005, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaqFu

Is it possible that you were one of the CardSystem International victims? Was this directly out of your checking account or was it using your debit/check card?

Right now, all signs point to a glitch on either the processor or the banks end, I will find that out tomorrow.

As for what was happening, I have the debit/check card attached to the PayPal account...

ShaqFu · 06-19-2005, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indoorsoccersim

Right now, all signs point to a glitch on either the processor or the banks end, I will find that out tomorrow.

As for what was happening, I have the debit/check card attached to the PayPal account...

I had stuff like this happen before, where my money was coming out of merchants I never shopped at. Banks told me that sometimes processing systems will do strange things and apply the charges to the wrong card.

Runtheball · 06-19-2005, 10:26 PM

This is no help, but possibly of some comfort. You're not alone in your anger at Paypal. I could not have a lower opinion of any company. No company has ever got me more absolutely freaking PISSED as Paypal. I despise the name Paypal and will never do business with them again. I think their customer service is despicable, and their policies would be laughable if they hadn't caused me so much unrestrainable anger. The entire Paypal organization is welcome to eat the peanuts out of my SH_ T !!!

MacroGuru · 06-20-2005, 01:17 PM

So the final update....

Spoke with the bank this morning, they went in and reversed all the transactions, giving me my money back...

We also cancelled my card...and we are having a new one issued.....

I have also opened a second account, and I am attaching my paypal account to that account.

As it stands, they have been on the phone with GameSpy this morning and it looks like GameSpy was running the charges, but GameSpy denies it even though there were reverses starting to be placed this morning....

SackAttack · 06-20-2005, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indoorsoccersim

So the final update....

Spoke with the bank this morning, they went in and reversed all the transactions, giving me my money back...

We also cancelled my card...and we are having a new one issued.....

I have also opened a second account, and I am attaching my paypal account to that account.

As it stands, they have been on the phone with GameSpy this morning and it looks like GameSpy was running the charges, but GameSpy denies it even though there were reverses starting to be placed this morning....

Same bank? You didn't go to a new bank after all?

MacroGuru · 06-20-2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Same bank? You didn't go to a new bank after all?

I spoke with the Branch Manager of the bank...I have been with them for about 12 years and I really do not want to move all my stuff to a new bank...

assurances have been made nothing like this would happen again...

PayPal is on my 2nd account now, and I am waiting for the new cards to arrive.

But the main reason is, I honestly did not want to move everything...

Buccaneer · 06-20-2005, 05:19 PM

It's funny. Among those of us in the serious vintage sports cards hobby, we are much more pissed off at eBay than at PayPal. In fact, it has gotten to the point that if the seller's auction does not accept PayPal, he/she will not get good bids. We (as members of the PSA forum) are constantly acting as watchdog against the many eBay scams - informing eBay of such so they can hopefully shut it down, emailing high bidders ot scams, creating shit list of bad dealers, etc. - and conversely, haven't heard of many problems with PayPal, even with the power sellers among us. I'm relatively small potatoes with the sales/purchases through PayPal but have not had any problems - even though I am resenting the double-dipping between the eBay and PayPal fees.

Good luck in the future. I am apt to become more distrustful of any kind of electronic financial transactions and will become more cautious.

06-18-2005, 10:49 AM	#4
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	Nope, I have had this subscription to gamespy for years....It has never done anything like this...And PayPal is saying they don't see the charges on my account...this is a freaking joke...I am now being transferred to their banking dept.... I was also told from the Resolutions rep that I will need a statement from my bank proving these charges..... __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

06-18-2005, 11:12 AM	#8
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	A glitch? I wonder how many people actually dont pay attention or bother to call and pay the money. I guess thats how they finance their lawsuits. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

06-18-2005, 11:26 AM	#10
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	My wife went to the bank and was able to get a print out of half the charges because drive thruis the only thing open and they didn't want to tie the line up. So I have Auth# ranging from 77161 to 77606 all incrementing numerically.... I am now back on the phone with PayPal.... The thing that chaps me is I am a premier business member with them, I have churned quite a bit of money through here due to me running my e-bay business for the year I was unemployed and had to make some money.... Not one glitch, until now..... The wife is irate, chewing ass, and telling me to close the account....which is probably going to happen now. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

06-18-2005, 11:37 AM	#12
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	Well....looks like I can't do shit till Monday....Happy Fucking Fathers day.... Thank god, I have a playoff game tonight.....which reminds me, I need to update the Dynasty... __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

06-19-2005, 10:26 PM	#23
Runtheball High School JV Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: outside of Atlanta, GA	This is no help, but possibly of some comfort. You're not alone in your anger at Paypal. I could not have a lower opinion of any company. No company has ever got me more absolutely freaking PISSED as Paypal. I despise the name Paypal and will never do business with them again. I think their customer service is despicable, and their policies would be laughable if they hadn't caused me so much unrestrainable anger. The entire Paypal organization is welcome to eat the peanuts out of my SH_ T !!! __________________ Beware the beast "Man", for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates he kills for sport, or lust, or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, for he is the harbinger of death. -- The Lawgiver

06-18-2005, 10:38 AM	#2
timmynausea College Starter Join Date: Dec 2002	Yikes.

06-18-2005, 10:40 AM	#3
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	did you click on one of the ads at the top of FOFC?

06-18-2005, 10:49 AM	#5
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Is it just a glitch or do you really owe them $3k????

06-18-2005, 10:56 AM	#7
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Of course you know, this means war.

06-18-2005, 11:24 AM	#9
amdaily College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2003	Google Preparing to Challenge Ebay's PayPal According to a WSJ report (sub), Google is preparing to introduce an electronic payment system later this year, similar to that of PayPal. The service is code named Google Wallet. http://www.searchenginelowdown.com/2...nge-ebays.html

06-18-2005, 11:50 PM	#13
Franklinnoble Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Placerville, CA	PayPal is teh suck. I hope Google has them for breakfast. I'll switch in a heartbeat.

06-19-2005, 01:14 AM	#14
Joe Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Minneapolis	I just thought of this, but is it possible you got an email from a phishing scam claiming to be from paypal and got scammed that way? It would make sense with what's happened.

06-19-2005, 11:36 AM	#16
ShaqFu H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South Florida	Problem with Google, GreenZap, or anyone else, is that PayPal has the market cornered. It is also so well integrated into eBay, that anyone else is going to have a really hard time. The only way any other service will work is if they integrate with eBay's API and that isn't gonna happen. The eBay-PayPal integrations allows for Buy It Now to work so well and makes it easy to pay before the seller ever contacts you.

06-19-2005, 06:44 PM	#19
ShaqFu H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South Florida	Is it possible that you were one of the CardSystem International victims? Was this directly out of your checking account or was it using your debit/check card?

06-19-2005, 07:22 PM	#20
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	i just closed my paypal account. hear too many horror stories.

06-20-2005, 01:17 PM	#24
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	So the final update.... Spoke with the bank this morning, they went in and reversed all the transactions, giving me my money back... We also cancelled my card...and we are having a new one issued..... I have also opened a second account, and I am attaching my paypal account to that account. As it stands, they have been on the phone with GameSpy this morning and it looks like GameSpy was running the charges, but GameSpy denies it even though there were reverses starting to be placed this morning.... __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

06-20-2005, 05:19 PM	#27
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	It's funny. Among those of us in the serious vintage sports cards hobby, we are much more pissed off at eBay than at PayPal. In fact, it has gotten to the point that if the seller's auction does not accept PayPal, he/she will not get good bids. We (as members of the PSA forum) are constantly acting as watchdog against the many eBay scams - informing eBay of such so they can hopefully shut it down, emailing high bidders ot scams, creating shit list of bad dealers, etc. - and conversely, haven't heard of many problems with PayPal, even with the power sellers among us. I'm relatively small potatoes with the sales/purchases through PayPal but have not had any problems - even though I am resenting the double-dipping between the eBay and PayPal fees. Good luck in the future. I am apt to become more distrustful of any kind of electronic financial transactions and will become more cautious.

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