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I'd like to see some more information about the link between the two photos of the ID numbers -- one on the positive test, one on Armstrong's race documents. I'd like to know how conclusive that really is, as well as if whether there's any chance the numbers were tampered with.
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08-25-2005, 01:49 PM | #153 |
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"EPO tests on the 1999 B urine samples were not carried out until last year, when scientists performed research on them to fine-tune EPO testing methods, the paper said.
The national anti-doping laboratory in Chatenay-Malabry, which developed the EPO test and analyzed the urine samples in question, said it could not confirm that the positive EPO results were Armstrong's. It noted that the samples were anonymous, bearing only a a six-digit number to identify the rider, and could not be matched with the name of any one cyclist. " This whole story doesn't make any sense to me. 1. The lab was doing research to fine tune there methods. Wouldn't you use a know sample to judge how effective the methods are? Maybe they're faulty and you turn up false positives. 2. How did they happen to use the Tdf samples for research? Were they just lying around? Why not use fresher samples? 3. Who called the newspaper and why? At that point there was nothing connecting the sample to Armstrong. "Were doing research on urine sampling methodology and have some positives on an anonymous sample. ", sounds like a major story to me. 4. Would a major newspaper waist its time if it didn't already know who's sample it was? Or did they already decide who's sample it was going to be? This sure sounds like there is more going on here then the paper is saying. |
08-27-2005, 12:28 AM | #154 | |
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Good article on the subject by King Kaufman. Particularly interesting point about the conflict of interest with the newspaper (towards the end of the article)
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08-27-2005, 01:02 AM | #156 | |
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Aren't their hundreds of cyclists in a Tour? Isn't it more akin to being told that someone in the AFC was busted for steroids, but we don't know who? -Anxiety
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08-27-2005, 01:05 AM | #157 |
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Actually, I was on the phone with my gf who lived in France for a while, and she said that although th French really care about the TdF, their level of interest in things cycling is really about the level of their fifth or sixth most popular sport. If her recollection is correct, than this is more analagous to someone calling up ESPN and saying that there was a random NHL sample that turned up oistive and asking if they want to pursue it. -Anxiety
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Very good article, Maple Leafs. It put things in perspective a bit.
Anxiety, your girlfriend is wrong about the importance of the Tour de France in France. While it is true that cycling in general is not that big a deal, the Tour is one of the top 2 or 3 sporting events each year. Also, for info, there are 180 riders in the TdF.
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If Armstrong was black he could just say the French were racists. But since he's white, he's fucked.
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08-27-2005, 12:07 PM | #160 | |
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As for their being hundreds of riders, you're right, but there were also multiple positives. So maybe a better analogy would be if ESPN found out that two dozen players in the National League had tested positive. I think they'd still dig on that a little. You can probably call it a witch hunt, but I don't buy the conspiracy talk. I think people here assume that every European newspaper is the equivalent of the British tabloids, but from what I've heard this one is very credible.
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Ummm, that's what I said. The TDF is really big, yet cycling as a sport is only 5th or so on the sports list. -Anxiety
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