ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOCK BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Is he asking just about the PS3 versions? In that case, doesn't the GHIII guitar work with Rock Band?

He is, but the relevance of the 4-in-1 is that it makes it much easier to play the PS2 Guitar Hero games on the PS3, so there's that.

Also, the GHIII guitar only works with Rock Band if you're playing the Xbox 360 version.

On PlayStation 3, neither guitar is compatible with the competitor's game.

[Kodos]

Heh. Didn't know that little nugget. What a ginormous pain in the bu-tocks.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

Nyko's got one called the FrontMan, I believe, that does that. The Ant Commandos also announced a 4-in-1 guitar that's supposed to be compatible with all of the guitar games on both PS2 and PS3. That one isn't out yet.

Sweet, trying to come up with a bday present my parents can get me. Haven't been able to find anything in the retail stores so I'll have to look online for this.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Heh. Didn't know that little nugget. What a ginormous pain in the bu-tocks.

Yup All because Sony didn't want to create a standard, friggin pain...

[SackAttack]

Harmonix, the leading developer of music-based games, and MTV Games, a division of MTV Networks, which is a division of Viacom (NYSE: VIA, VIA.B), along with distribution partner Electronic Arts, Inc. (NASDAQ: ERTS), today announced plans to release Rock Band™ Track Pack Volume 1 for the Wii™ home video game console from Nintendo and PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system. The 20-Track Pack features an electrifying mix of classic hits and current favorites, including songs by Boston, Nine Inch Nails, Stone Temple Pilots, and All American Rejects. The Rock Band™ Track Pack Volume 1 will be available on July 15th, 2008 for a MSRP of $29.99. Complete details are as follows:



Release date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008



Tracks:

30 Seconds to Mars The Kill

All American Rejects Move Along

Blink – 182 All the Small Things

Boston More Than a Feeling

David Bowie Moonage Daydream

Faith No More We Care A Lot

Grateful Dead Truckin’

The Hives Die, All Right!

KISS Calling Dr. Love

Lynyrd Skynyrd Gimme’ Three Steps

Nine Inch Nails March of the Pigs

Oasis Live Forever

Paramore Crushcrushcrush

The Police Synchronicity II

Queens of the Stone Age Little Sister

Ramones Teenage Lobotomy

Smashing Pumpkins Siva

Stone Temple Pilots Interstate Love Song

Weezer Buddy Holly

Wolfmother Joker & the Thief



**All 20 tracks utilize original master recordings**

** All tracks are available as DLC on competing platforms**



Price: $29.99 MSRP

There's yer DLC, Wii players.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

There's yer DLC, Wii players.

While it's a decent fix for the DLC issue, I still much prefer the option to choose which songs I'd like to have rather than a disc of 20 preselected songs. I think the DLC option with the 360/PS3 is what should continue to drive RB sales on those two consoles.

[MikeVic]

I want all of the NIN songs. No dice, Harmonix and Nintendo.

[kingnebwsu]

I just wanted to chime in (again) on how much fun I'm (still) having with the game. Thanks to Scrubs & Rock Band, I've discovered the band Boston. Not my kind of music normally...but their stuff is amazing. The guitar solos are just awesome. I've downloaded 3 of their songs. "Peace of Mind" is truly sweet. Me & my girlfriend have been walking around singing the chorus for the past several days. She even had a copy of their self-titled album (with all the Rock Band songs on it). I've really been enjoying it.

It's cool all the music I've discovered since I played Rock Band. My current downloadable faves are:

Boston-More Than A Feeling
Boston- Peace of Mind
All-American Rejects-Dirty Little Secret
Glados-Still Alive
Blink 182-All The Small Things

I seriously played those 5 songs (sprinkled in with some others) for about 2 hours the other day. All of this while GTA just came out. I love singing & playing guitar. Yesterday I got 100% on medium while singing & playing guitar on "Dirty Little Secret"

It was a proud day

[Chubby]

Moohahaha I got the Nyko guitar that plays both Rockband and Guitar Hero on PS3 for my bday last night. Not only does it rule because it plays both games but the fret buttons are like the GH guitars (which I greatly prefer)

[Pumpy Tudors]

I just got Rock Band over the weekend. I thought I was going to be the drummer, but my wife immediately took the drums and left me on guitar. I still had a lot of fun.

One question: In World Tour mode, can members of the band roster move around to different instruments? We couldn't figure out how to take the drummer that she created and move her over to singer. We ended up just creating another character to be the singer, and we left the drummer on "absent."

[kingnebwsu]

On World Tour, you create the "leader" and that person/instrument must always be present for the band to play. You cannot transfer the characters between instruments as far as I know.

[mrsimperless]

I'll add my own Rock Band music discovery story.

I once knew a douche-bag who would, whenever a Rush song came on at a bar, say "RUSH!" in an overly loud and excited manner and proceed to play air drums. I've since avoided all things Rush, but since Rock Band I am now completely hooked. I won't be looking up the douche-bag any time soon to hang out, but I now have a much better understanding of where he was coming from.

"RUSH!"

[BigDawg]

Originally Posted by mrsimperless

I'll add my own Rock Band music discovery story.

I once knew a douche-bag who would, whenever a Rush song came on at a bar, say "RUSH!" in an overly loud and excited manner and proceed to play air drums. I've since avoided all things Rush, but since Rock Band I am now completely hooked. I won't be looking up the douche-bag any time soon to hang out, but I now have a much better understanding of where he was coming from.

"RUSH!"

I saw RUSH twice in concert, once in 1977 and just last year in 2007....lol

BTW I finnaly finished my solo carrer ( drums ) on HARD, two songs I could not beat were Run for the Hill and the WHO song till I finaly had the bright idea of letting my son play the bass pedal part ( with his hands ) while I played the rest...yea I cheated.

Now on to expert......

[gstelmack]

Jimmy Buffett!

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Jimmy Buffett!

Excellent. That will be my first DLC purchase.

[FrogMan]

quick headsup for anyone interested in getting the game for PS2, it's now at $60 off at bestbuy, selling it for $99.99:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....9&type=product

same thing for canadian customers with futureshop
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...10096820&catid=

I've read on redflagdeals.ca that the instruments are the same for the PS2 and PS3 and some people with PS3 just traded in the software and went and bought only the game for PS3. I cannot confirm it myself, simply reporting what I've read.

FM

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by mrsimperless

I'll add my own Rock Band music discovery story.

I once knew a douche-bag who would, whenever a Rush song came on at a bar, say "RUSH!" in an overly loud and excited manner and proceed to play air drums. I've since avoided all things Rush, but since Rock Band I am now completely hooked. I won't be looking up the douche-bag any time soon to hang out, but I now have a much better understanding of where he was coming from.

"RUSH!"

Neil Peart is a god among men.

[Neon_Chaos]

But he writes horrible lyrics.

[Kodos]

Seems like a lot of his lyrics are about the burden of being rich and famous.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

quick headsup for anyone interested in getting the game for PS2, it's now at $60 off at bestbuy, selling it for $99.99:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....9&type=product

same thing for canadian customers with futureshop
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...10096820&catid=

I've read on redflagdeals.ca that the instruments are the same for the PS2 and PS3 and some people with PS3 just traded in the software and went and bought only the game for PS3. I cannot confirm it myself, simply reporting what I've read.

FM

Truth.

[FrogMan]

apparently PS2 Rock Band has been dropped to $100 about everywhere and we took the plunge the cheap way yesteday. I got us a PS2 bundled with Guitar Hero III for $200 and Rock Band for said $100. Couldn't afford one of the new consoles so I decided I'd settle for the PS2 for now and would go back and hunt for Guitar Hero I and II and the 80's at some point and will look at the upcoming GH with the drums when it comes out in the Fall, sice it's set to come out for the PS2 too. And for now, we can play Rock Band with two guitars and a drum, family style.

Was surprised to see still many games shedules to come out for the PS2 until the end of the year. At least enough big names (especially superhero wise with a new Spider-Man game, new Marvel Ultimate Alliance and such) that my son will have time to build a solid shelf of game at affordable prices (PS2 games are cheaper at launch than the new gen consoles).

FM

[sterlingice]

If you can still find it, Guitar Hero 80s can be had at Radio Shack for $20.

SI

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

If you can still find it, Guitar Hero 80s can be had at Radio Shack for $20.

SI

sadly, there are no Radio Shack in Canadia anymore. Well, they got bought by Circuit City I think. Anyway, they are now know as The Source by Circuit City.

Just checked radioshack.com and wow, they're showing it as a "store only" offer but it's at $14.97.

Any good friend from FOFC has seen it in a Radio Shack near them lately? If so and if said good friend wouldn't mind the trouble of buying a copy and shipping it by the cheapest postage available, I would paypal over the money. Please get in touch via PM if willing to help.

Back to the games, rocking with my son is a lot of fun and even playing either RB or GH by myself after he's gone to bed was a good deal of fun.

FM

[Flasch186]

ill look at mine tomorrow morning but let me know if someone gets it for you first.

actually i own it and will mail you mine free plus S, if you want. I'll never play it now that we have rock band.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by Flasch186

ill look at mine tomorrow morning but let me know if someone gets it for you first.

actually i own it and will mail you mine free plus S, if you want. I'll never play it now that we have rock band.

woah, that'd be way too nice.

I'll PM you in a moment.

FM

[SackAttack]

Welcome to the rock party, Wii owners!

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

Welcome to the rock party, Wii owners!

according to my Amazon tracking I'll be getting mine tomorrow, but with the 2 new babies I probally won't get to play the thing for weeks

[Kodos]

Can they play instruments yet?

[condors]

I am not happy about scaled down features but wife wanted it and don't have another system and its still fun.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Can they play instruments yet?

they are only 2 weeks old so not yet, but that is why I got the big set up.

[SnDvls]

dola, and it did arrive so I'll be trying it out tonight w/ my brother-in-law

[SackAttack]

So I got an invitation to a Rock Band concert featuring a "special guest performance" on 7/16. I'm not sure whether this will be awesome, hilarious, or hilariously sad in an awesome way.

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by condors

I am not happy about scaled down features but wife wanted it and don't have another system and its still fun.

What is scaled down? If you haven't played RB previously, would you notice the difference?

I'm thinking of getting this for our Wii, we have GH3 already and my son loves it, he wants a 360 so he can have RB, but if it's any good on the Wii, it'd be significantly cheaper to buy it that way. Any reviews/opinions would be great!

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

What is scaled down? If you haven't played RB previously, would you notice the difference?

I'm thinking of getting this for our Wii, we have GH3 already and my son loves it, he wants a 360 so he can have RB, but if it's any good on the Wii, it'd be significantly cheaper to buy it that way. Any reviews/opinions would be great!

No online play, no DLC, but otherwise it should be functionally the same as the PS3/360 versions.

Lack of HD resolutions means it won't look quite as nice, but that's aesthetics, not functionality.

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

What is scaled down? If you haven't played RB previously, would you notice the difference?

I'm thinking of getting this for our Wii, we have GH3 already and my son loves it, he wants a 360 so he can have RB, but if it's any good on the Wii, it'd be significantly cheaper to buy it that way. Any reviews/opinions would be great!

from what I've read, the Wii version is scaled down in the sense that it's similar to the PS2 version, i.e. no downloadable content, and the world tour is not as customizable as it is with the PS3/360 versions.

I'd think your son would enjoy it anyway, especially having not played the other version. I know my 11yo son loves it very much and rocking with him is a whole lot of fun...

FM

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

No online play, no DLC, but otherwise it should be functionally the same as the PS3/360 versions.

Lack of HD resolutions means it won't look quite as nice, but that's aesthetics, not functionality.

yeah, what he said. I should have waited for the pros to say something...

If I may add, aesthetics are really not as important with a game like Rock Band, it's all about gameplay, and this game is addictive as all hell.

FM

[kingnebwsu]

The downloadable content is very huge to me, so I'd say if you're thinking about buying a 360/PS3, hold off and get Rock Band on one of those systems. A buddy of mine bought RB and a PS3 this weekend after I told him how the Wii has no DL ability.

[oliegirl]

I'd really like to get a 360, but the whole red ring of death thing just really scares me...I know how pissed I'll be if I have to deal with microsoft and their "customer service". He hasn't really shown any interest in the PS3, though I'm sure if I said "would you like one", he'd say yes in half a second. His b'day is in September, we might wait until then and splurge on a new console for him...

Thanks for the input guys!

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

He hasn't really shown any interest in the PS3, though I'm sure if I said "would you like one", he'd say yes in half a second.

One thing I've noticed about kids while working at Best Buy is that, yeah, they'll jump all over it if Mom or Dad is making a whimsical purchase of a console. They'll back their parents to the hilt on an unexpected buy of a game system.

If, on the other hand, they have it in their heads that they can get a game system, and they want one in particular, they will resist their parents' efforts to convince them that the other one would be cool.

Saw that happen with a 10 y/o boy who wanted a 360, while his dad thought it would be cool to get a PS3 - the kid could play games, the dad could watch Blu-ray. The boy, I think, feared that if he let his Dad buy a PS3, hopes of getting a 360 would be out the window. "You already have a PlayStation, what do you need with that other machine?"

Depends on how you've framed the discussion in the past and moving forward, I guess.

[mrsimperless]

Anyone have the new Pixies album that wants to jam? I'll play guitar or drums.

XBL: RyClarky

[Doug5984]

DLC tomorrow:
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Snow (Hey Oh)
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Tell Me Baby
Rush - Closer to the Heart
Rush - Working Man (alternate-take master)

All tracks are masters



Next week:
The Who
--------------------
Hell yes.

[Ksyrup]

July 14, 2008 - Last year, Rock Band was the only music game that enabled users to play as a full-fledged band. Things are different this year with Konami's Rock Revolution and, more dauntingly, Guitar Hero World Tour. Ultimately, no amount of features or new equipment is going to matter. The real winner will be whichever game has the best track list. Harmonix and MTV must be fully aware of this fact, because today, the two released the full 84-song set list. Judging by the impressive list, Konami and Activision have reason to worry. This is easily the greatest assemblage of music in a game to date.

The big jaw-to-the-floor announcement is that Guns N' Roses is set to debut a new song from the long-awaited album Chinese Democracy. It's not just that Rock Band 2 has GNR -- it has new GNR and effectively announces the imminent arrival of the band's oft-delayed album. Guns N' Roses' "Shackler's Revenge" is just the tip of the iceberg for a track list that features far more greats (Bob effin' Dylan!) than stinkers (Linkin effin' Park?!).

Joining GNR and Dylan are such surprises as Tenacious D, Pearl Jam, Beck, Talking Heads, and The Replacements. The list isn't so focused on spreading across decades as it is spanning genres. There's a lot more heavy metal this time around and the music from the '60s is better focused (and lacking the horror that is Green Tides and High Grass). Perhaps the only head scratcher is the inclusion of Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit in the Sky," which most will recognize as an overused sports anthem.

Check out the full list of tracks. Note that all tracks on RB2 are master recordings. There are 75 tracks from famous artists, plus nine bonus tracks from various bands that feature members of Harmonix.

Master Tracks

1. AC/DC Let There Be Rock 1970s
2. AFI Girl's Gone Grey 2000s
3. Alanis Morissette You Oughta Know 1990s
4. Alice in Chains Man in the Box 1990s
5. Allman Brothers Ramblin' Man 1970s
6. Avenged Sevenfold Almost Easy 2000s
7. Bad Company Shooting Star 1970s
8. Beastie Boys So Whatcha Want 1990s
9. Beck E-Pro 2000s
10. Bikini Kill Rebel Girl 1990s
11. Billy Idol White Wedding Pt. I 1980s
12. Blondie One Way or Another 1970s
13. Bob Dylan Tangled Up in Blue 1970s
14. Bon Jovi Livin' on a Prayer 1980s
15. Cheap Trick Hello There 1970s
16. Devo Uncontrollable Urge 1980s
17. Dinosaur Jr. Feel the Pain 1990s
18. Disturbed Down with the Sickness 2000s
19. Dream Theater Panic Attack 2000s
20. Duran Duran Hungry Like the Wolf 1980s
21. Elvis Costello Pump It Up 1970s
22. Fleetwood Mac Go Your Own Way 1970s
23. Foo Fighters Everlong 1990s
24. Guns N' Roses Shackler's Revenge 2000s
25. Interpol PDA 2000s
26. Jane's Addiction Mountain Song 1980s
27. Jethro Tull Aqualung 1970s
28. Jimmy Eat World The Middle 2000s
29. Joan Jett Bad Reputation 1980s
30. Journey Anyway You Want It 1970s
31. Judas Priest Painkiller 1990s
32. Kansas Carry On Wayward Son 1970s
33. L7 Pretend We're Dead 1990s
34. Lacuna Coil Our Truth 2000s
35. Linkin Park One Step Closer 2000s
36. Lit My Own Worst Enemy 1990s
37. Lush De-Luxe 1990s
38. Mastodon Colony of Birchmen 2000s
39. Megadeth Peace Sells 1980s
40. Metallica Battery 1980s
41. Mighty Mighty Bosstones Where'd You Go 1990s
42. Modest Mouse Float On 2000s
43. Motorhead Ace of Spades 1980s
44. Nirvana Drain You 1990s
45. Norman Greenbaum Spirit in the Sky 1960s
46. Panic at the Disco Nine in the Afternoon 2000s
47. Paramore That's What You Get 2000s
48. Pearl Jam Alive 1990s
49. Presidents of the USA Lump 1990s
50. Rage Against the Machine Testify 1990s
51. Ratt Round & Round 1980s
52. Red Hot Chili Peppers Give it Away 1990s
53. Rise Against Give it All 2000s
54. Rush The Trees 1970s
55. Silversun Pickups Lazy Eye 2000s
56. Smashing Pumpkins Today 1990s
57. Social Distortion I Was Wrong 1990s
58. Sonic Youth Teenage Riot 1980s
59. Soundgarden Spoonman 1990s
60. Squeeze Cool for Cats 1970s
61. Steely Dan Bodhitsattya 1970s
62. Steve Miller Band Rock'n Me 1970s
63. Survivor Eye of the Tiger 1980s
64. System of a Down Chop Suey 2000s
65. Talking Heads Psycho Killer 1970s
66. Tenacious D Master Exploder 2000s
67. Testament Souls of Black 1990s
68. The Donnas New Kid in School 2000s
69. The Go-Go's We Got the Beat 1980s
70. The Grateful Dead Alabama Getaway 1980s
71. The Guess Who American Woman 1970s
72. The Muffs Kids in America 1990s
73. The Offspring Come Out & Play (Keep 'em Separated) 1990s
74. The Replacements Alex Chilton 1980s
75. The Who Pinball Wizard

[MikeVic]

I really want my favourite songs/bands in these games. I don't mind playing the songs they give, but it would be something else if I could decide which songs to play.

[gstelmack]

Cool, I even recognize 2 or 3 of those songs.

Rock Band definitely introduced me to some cool new songs I'd never have listened to otherwise (discovering the Ramones, for example), but as I've progressed deeper into the song list I'm enjoying the music less and less. Not sure how interested I'll be in Rock Band 2 aside from some features, although at least I can bring my Boston, Jimmy Buffett, and Monkees DLC along...

[cartman]

There are some real gems in there. I'm gonna lose a lot of time playing this one.

[kingnebwsu]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Not sure how interested I'll be in Rock Band 2 aside from some features, although at least I can bring my Boston, Jimmy Buffett, and Monkees DLC along...

All Rock Band 1 DLC will work in Rock Band 2 in case you didn't know. Or maybe you were being tongue-in-cheek

Either way, good news for Rock Band. Just the sheer number of songs (75) is a huge thing. This is something new, also...releasing the song list before the game is out. 2 MONTHS before the game is out. That's a new standard. Looking forward to September!

[Mantle2600]

I'll be playing Battery and Chop suey probaly 500 times each. Hell Yeah.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by kingnebwsu

All Rock Band 1 DLC will work in Rock Band 2 in case you didn't know. Or maybe you were being tongue-in-cheek

Hence my statement that at least I can play them. So yeah, I understand that, but it's still only a handful of songs. I do look forward to the Journey and Survivor and some of the others in the RB2 set.

I remain shocked that with NASCAR, etc, there isn't a "Country Band" version yet. Or given my kids' interest in banging on drums and grabbing the microphone, where is the Kidz Bop version? Someone wants to challenge these guys, that's where I'd hit them. Or they could get around to it. I just think limiting yourself to hard rock except in DLC limits the audience a bit. As I said, my wife and I enjoyed the first part of the Band World Tour, and discovered some new music we would not have otherwise, but once we started getting hit with Beastie Boys and Iron Maiden and the like we started just trying to get through the songs. The DLC has been our saving grace so far...

[fantom1979]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Cool, I even recognize 2 or 3 of those songs.

Rock Band definitely introduced me to some cool new songs I'd never have listened to otherwise (discovering the Ramones, for example), but as I've progressed deeper into the song list I'm enjoying the music less and less. Not sure how interested I'll be in Rock Band 2 aside from some features, although at least I can bring my Boston, Jimmy Buffett, and Monkees DLC along...

If one of these games can figure out how to allow the user to import songs, it would be a homerun. I don't think the RIAA would like it.

[SirFozzie]

GHWT will have a sorta-feature like that, music creation mode.. however it will not have vocals.