The Walking Dead -- TV Series Thread - Page 10

Draft Dodger · 10-26-2011, 10:05 PM

I'm generally not all that down on the acting...but that dude playing Dale is awful.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-26-2011, 10:10 PM

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I'm generally not all that down on the acting...but that dude playing Dale is awful.

That's interesting since he's usually considered the most accomplished actor of the bunch.

Draft Dodger · 10-27-2011, 07:39 AM

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That's interesting since he's usually considered the most accomplished actor of the bunch.

yeah, I see that he has a lot of work to his credit, but he's Sam-Waterston-cringe-worthy to me. I think some of that has to do with some of the awful lines they have him spewing (is Lucas involved in the dialogue writing?). Just not a fan at all.

Bad-example · 10-27-2011, 09:28 AM

I've watched every episode and still don't know most of the character names. I think that speaks to the unremarkable writing, or perhaps more to my cognitive shortcomings.

Subby · 10-27-2011, 09:41 AM

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Just wondering (since I didn't watch Deadwood & didn't recognize the actor), did the casting of Otis influence your feeling about him on TV?

I gather that the guy playing him has at least some sort of following, thinking of that made me wonder if your different impression was from a significantly difference in the actual character or if it might be from something along the lines of "the actor delivers the character better than the cartoonist/artist".

Maybe that's an odd question {shrug}, just kind of crossed my mind & figured I'd ask.

I haven't watched Deadwood, but I do like that character actor. Otis is right in his wheelhouse.

Draft Dodger · 10-27-2011, 11:15 AM

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I've watched every episode and still don't know most of the character names. I think that speaks to the unremarkable writing, or perhaps more to my cognitive shortcomings.

no, it's not you. I had to look up Dale's name (I just know him as the floppy hat dude). whenever someone uses a name other than Rick, Shane or Lori in this thread, I have to look it up

JonInMiddleGA · 10-27-2011, 11:36 AM

I'll just ditto the name struggle thing, but what's interesting is that other than Rick & Shane, which names have stuck seem to vary. Not sure if that says something about the characters, about us, or both.

FTR, in addition to the those two, Dale's name was probably the first one to stick with me since Merle.

I think Darryl & T-Bone are now immediately identifiable to me by name, but that's something new to Season 2. I've almost got Lori's name down, but Andrea, the other woman, and the kids ... I still steadily whiff on.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-27-2011, 11:38 AM

I don't have too much trouble with the names, probably because I've read the comics and therefore have a pretty decent foundation from which to work from.

Even with that, I used to get Dale and Glenn confused and sometimes get Dale and Darryl confused, but I think it's all pretty straight right now.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-27-2011, 11:40 AM

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Even with that, I used to get Dale and Glenn confused and sometimes get Dale and Darryl confused, but I think it's all pretty straight right now.

Ouch. Your post made me realize that Glenn never ever crossed my mind when I was putting the characters into their recognition tiers. Probably has something to do with his near invisibility (one real scene maybe?) so far this season.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-27-2011, 11:44 AM

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Ouch. Your post made me realize that Glenn never ever crossed my mind when I was putting the characters into their recognition tiers. Probably has something to do with his near invisibility (one real scene maybe?) so far this season.

Glenn hasn't done much so far this season. But, this season has only been two episodes and has only spanned a couple of days. Glenn will get his due. Oh yes... More than his due given some awesome casting.

MikeVic · 10-27-2011, 11:47 AM

I don't know the names at all (well, Rick and Shane I guess... and if you say someone else's name, maybe I know who you are talking about... but I can't sit there identifying anyone else).

I find the characters pretty dull, except for the hillbilly guy (is that Merle?), and I like when someone dies in hopes that they are replaced with a more interesting character. I'm still watching the show because I like the idea of it and they have some nice scenes once in awhile.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-27-2011, 11:49 AM

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I find the characters pretty dull, except for the hillbilly guy (is that Merle?), and I like when someone dies in hopes that they are replaced with a more interesting character. I'm still watching the show because I like the idea of it and they have some nice scenes once in awhile.

That's Darryl. Merle is his brother who was left handcuffed on the roof and chopped his own hand off to escape.

Kodos · 10-27-2011, 01:19 PM

I think the last show where I could readily name the characters was Seinfeld. But I have trouble with names in general. Especially if I am put on the spot.

Ragone · 10-27-2011, 02:08 PM

I didn't even know t-bones name till the last episode.. I really started out not liking darryl's character.. but his character has really grown on me in the past few episodes.. Don't like shane's brooding at all however..

I give tubby otis a 0% chance of making it back from the school alive

also, if otis was studying to be a paramedic.. wouldn't he have been a better choice to be doing triage surgery over mr vet?

Honolulu_Blue · 10-27-2011, 02:14 PM

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also, if otis was studying to be a paramedic.. wouldn't he have been a better choice to be doing triage surgery over mr vet?

I am not sure. I don't know how much surgical training a paramedic has. Wasn't he volunteer one anyway? I can't recall the exact bit of dialogue when he described what he did.

Doug5984 · 10-27-2011, 03:49 PM

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I am not sure. I don't know how much surgical training a paramedic has. Wasn't he volunteer one anyway? I can't recall the exact bit of dialogue when he described what he did.

I'm pretty sure he was volunteer

SteveMax58 · 10-30-2011, 08:05 AM

I've been DVR'ing & watching these episodes later in the week (usually Friday) so I've been avoiding this thread until after I see the latest episode.

I'll also confirm that the names are not engrained in my memory very much at all. Rick, Shane, and usually Lori now. Everybody else is just the old guy, asian dude, black dude, the deer hunter (which now has a completely different context...so I'll need to change it), blonde woman, woman who isnt blonde woman but also not Lori, and the random kids (one of which is Rick's son...maybe thats it?).

I thought ep2 was ok. Very much a tease/setup episode though. My wife asked me while we were watching it, "Is this show going to become 'Lost'?"...to which I said "Probably".

One thing I have to say that is starting to annoy me. The "Rick & Shane verbal heroism battles" are getting old. I get "what" they are trying to communicate but they just seem too contrived & illogical to me. IDK what they could do better but they are really not sitting well with me.

Rick: I need to leave my dieing son here without access to my blood so I can go get Lori just in case he dies...which will probably happen if I do leave.
Shane: You need to be here with your son...ya know...because he'll die if you dont.
Rick: Gah!!! His mother should be here & I need to go get her!! Its not right!
Shane: You know I'd take a bullet in my pee-pee for ya buddy, right? I mean...no shit...straight up. But I dont think you should go get her.
Rick: I gotta go get her...[collapses]
Shane: Phew...glad I didnt have to prove that one.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-30-2011, 08:55 PM

Let's boogie

JonInMiddleGA · 10-30-2011, 09:58 PM

Welcome to the deep end, or rather, off the deep end.

Figured that's what was coming but still, damn.

gi · 10-30-2011, 10:19 PM

Yeah, Shane's soul is going for a sun tan.

Chief Rum · 10-30-2011, 10:20 PM

Yeah, I was pretty sure right when Shane got back that Otis was the reason he got away.

But I was hoping it was in a positive, heroic way. And the second Shane seemed to be standing off by himself, I was suspecting it wasn't that way.

Brutal turn this one has taken, and really has me wondering (as someone who has not read the comics) what will happen with Shane as the series goes forward.

Oh yeah, and I'm beginning to get annoyed at Sophie.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-30-2011, 10:34 PM

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Brutal turn this one has taken, and really has me wondering (as someone who has not read the comics) what will happen with Shane as the series goes forward.

That seems to be part of the beauty of it: as I understand it, his storyline is now completely diverged from the comic, so it's all new ground for him.

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Oh yeah, and I'm beginning to get annoyed at Sophie.

I was annoyed with her before she finished running up the creek bank.

Swaggs · 10-30-2011, 10:34 PM

The television show has already diverged considerably from the comic, so outside of general settings/direction and a few important characters that I presume are coming (that are just too cool to pass up), I don't think anyone knows what is going to happen on the show.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-30-2011, 10:36 PM

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characters that I presume are coming (that are just too cool to pass up)

Which is where I suspect we'll also get the return of Merle, likely as a henchman of some sort for the next (human) bad guys.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-31-2011, 09:44 AM

Poor Otis.

That was pretty brutal. At first I was surprised that they had Shane roll up alone and had their "escape" happen off screen. But then... poor Otis. It's not just that Shane left him for dead to get away, but rather instead of killing the poor guy and leaving his freshly killed body as bait, he wings his leg making him an even bigger distraction and suffer horrificly painful death.

I found Shane's actions in that sense a very nice and sharp contrast to Rick's whole "deer speech" about why it was important for Carl to live. Sure, there is still some beauty left in the world, but it's so fleeting and what happened with Shane and Otis will be much more the reality as people get more and more desperate.

I am still not sure how the farm house has both electricity and running water.

Bad-example · 10-31-2011, 10:18 AM

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having trouble keeping the character names straight. I was afraid my enormous alcohol intake was finally catching up with me.

Fast forwarded through all the scenes in the room with the injured kid, which improved the pace considerably. Pretty sure I didn't miss any important dialogue between the sheriff and his annoying wife.

'Curly' shaved his head. Now I guess I have to learn his real name.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-31-2011, 10:19 AM

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Fast forwarded through all the scenes in the room with the injured kid, which improved the pace considerably. Pretty sure I didn't miss any important dialogue between the sheriff and his annoying wife.

You actually missed some good stuff.

stevew · 10-31-2011, 10:21 AM

I was thinking the farmhouse was on a NG generator. I also wonder if Zombie Otis will lead a pack towards the farmhouse, as that place would be a fresh memory.

Bad-example · 10-31-2011, 10:23 AM

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You actually missed some good stuff.

I'm starting to lose interest anyway, but it is good to hear they actually said something worth listening to.

stevew · 10-31-2011, 10:25 AM

Lori's acting made Prison Break painful at times. I hope that she meets her doom soon.

Chief Rum · 10-31-2011, 11:13 AM

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I am still not sure how the farm house has both electricity and running water.

Thank you. Was wondering that myself. I get that a generator (which, BTW, would be loud and would draw zombies and you never heard in any outside scenes) can provide the electricity if they have gas (which they must, their truck runs still), but the running hot water at an output similar to full civilization is a tough one to figure for a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-31-2011, 11:21 AM

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Thank you. Was wondering that myself. I get that a generator (which, BTW, would be loud and would draw zombies and you never heard in any outside scenes) can provide the electricity if they have gas (which they must, their truck runs still), but the running hot water at an output similar to full civilization is a tough one to figure for a farmhouse in the middle of nowhere.

Maybe there is a generator or something else. I don't consider myself an expert of such things or really understand how it all works. Maybe there is a good explanation for it.

It wouldn't have hurt for someone new to ask some basic questions about the farm:

"How do you guys still have electricity and water?"

"Why don't you have anyone on look out or anything boarded up?"

Amy did reference the gate and, in the comic, there is a big fence around the property. Perhaps between that fence and their remote location - zombies seem to prefer urban areas - they haven't had much of an issue so far.

A small thing, but something that folks will undoubtedly make a big deal about. It doesn't bother me that much, but a little explanation wouldn't hurt, especially since everyone made such a big deal about having a hot shower and other creature comforts while at the CDC. Granted, they have been dealing with some pretty big issues since getting to the farm.

Chief Rum · 10-31-2011, 11:43 AM

Hmm, I hadn't recalled the hubbub about the CDC.

Running water and electricity and all there made complete sense to me. Not only is it a facility built by an organization with endless amounts of money (the government), but the specific purpose of the CDC was to fight disease. Since serious widespread disease==plague, it makes sense that the CDC would be designed to withstand a widespread plague and be self-sufficient, at least for a certain length of time, probably stretching months if not years.

Farmhouse, meh, not so much.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-31-2011, 11:51 AM

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Hmm, I hadn't recalled the hubbub about the CDC.

Running water and electricity and all there made complete sense to me. Not only is it a facility built by an organization with endless amounts of money (the government), but the specific purpose of the CDC was to fight disease. Since serious widespread disease==plague, it makes sense that the CDC would be designed to withstand a widespread plague and be self-sufficient, at least for a certain length of time, probably stretching months if not years.

Farmhouse, meh, not so much.

I had no issue with the CDC having power and water.

The "hubbub" I was referring to was in-character hubbub. All the characters in the show kept going on and on about how great it was to have hot water and creature comforts. How rare and wonderful it was.

I think they actually explained the CDC power/water deal in some detail with the generator and those big oil drums or whatever were downstairs and all of that.

I found the the character's reaction and the explanation at the CDC to be a sharp contrast to what we've seen at the farm house. Then again, it hasn't been quite as long between events. Most of those people were living at that campsite for weeks before leaving to the CDC.

Swaggs · 10-31-2011, 01:39 PM

Remember that they have moved on to rural Georgia. It is not at all unusual for a farmhouse to have well water (I don't know a ton about that particular part of the country, but I'd say it is more the norm for places outside towns around here) and a gasoline or natural gas generator would not be unusual, either. If it is natural gas, it would not be noisy (and, I'd guess it is, as they'd be conserving gasoline by now, I suspect).

As for the density of zombies, they appear where they lived/died, so there wouldn't be very many in the country. And, it appears as if people flocked to the city for protection and services when the outbreak first occurred, so even less than the occuppied homes. If Herschel's farm is several hundred acres and they turned away any roamers during the first few months of the outbreak, I'd say they are pretty safe at present.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-31-2011, 01:43 PM

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Remember that they have moved on to rural Georgia. It is not at all unusual for a farmhouse to have well water (I don't know a ton about that particular part of the country, but I'd say it is more the norm for places outside towns around here) and a gasoline or natural gas generator would not be unusual, either. If it is natural gas, it would not be noisy (and, I'd guess it is, as they'd be conserving gasoline by now, I suspect).

As for the density of zombies, they appear where they lived/died, so there wouldn't be very many in the country. And, it appears as if people flocked to the city for protection and services when the outbreak first occurred, so even less than the occuppied homes. If Herschel's farm is several hundred acres and they turned away any roamers during the first few months of the outbreak, I'd say they are pretty safe at present.

I will easily buy this explanation.

Thanks!

gi · 10-31-2011, 03:17 PM

My natural gas generator for my server room is very loud. Though I'm sure you can muffle it some if you tried.

stevew · 10-31-2011, 03:25 PM

I don't think that electric power or natural gas would necessarily be down...it's not like they got nuked or something to that effect. Now certain areas were probably broken. These people also don't have cell phones? Or laptops. Even if this is wonton apocalypse, the Zombies wouldn't care about destroying infrastructure.

And they need to find that girl because fake Jamie Lee Curtis is getting on my last nerve.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-31-2011, 03:51 PM

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These people also don't have cell phones? Or laptops.

Hmm ... I think there might be a question of whether (in this universe) they ever had them.

I mean, we've been told by the creator that zombies - as we know them in our popular culture - were unknown to the residents of the Walking Dead universe. Maybe that's not the only thing that's different.

Easy Mac · 10-31-2011, 03:54 PM

It's been months since the invasion seemed to overwhelm everything. There's a reason there's a power company and water company. These things break without supervision.

Honolulu_Blue · 10-31-2011, 03:59 PM

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I don't think that electric power or natural gas would necessarily be down...it's not like they got nuked or something to that effect. Now certain areas were probably broken. These people also don't have cell phones? Or laptops. Even if this is wonton apocalypse, the Zombies wouldn't care about destroying infrastructure.

Since I don't know much about this stuff, I can't say how long the infrastructure could maintain itself.

There was no power in Atlanta or the surrounding suburbs for example.

Likewise, would cell phone towers still be able to operate? Cell networks still up?

Schmidty · 10-31-2011, 04:02 PM

Man, you guys piss and moan too much.

I'm enjoying it more this season than last season so far.

Raiders Army · 10-31-2011, 05:57 PM

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Fast forwarded through all the scenes in the room with the injured kid, which improved the pace considerably. Pretty sure I didn't miss any important dialogue between the sheriff and his annoying wife.

I am also tiring of the exposition between the Rick and Lori. I could give two shits about Lori.

Shane, on the other hand, is one of my favorite characters. At least he's got some depth to him, unlike everyone else, who might as well be red-shirt #2.

One thing that won't compute later if the show is like the comic is when Herschel asks what happens to Otis and then doesn't ask why Shane didn't bring his body back or if he doesn't send out a party to get him.

klayman · 10-31-2011, 07:24 PM

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As for the density of zombies, they appear where they lived/died, so there wouldn't be very many in the country. And, it appears as if people flocked to the city for protection and services when the outbreak first occurred, so even less than the occuppied homes. If Herschel's farm is several hundred acres and they turned away any roamers during the first few months of the outbreak, I'd say they are pretty safe at present.

And yet we've seen a herd of 30 or so Zombies plus 4 or 5 in the forest in 2 days that are within my-son's-been-shot-i'm-going-to-run-him-to-the-nearest-help distance? That seems to be a pretty high zombie density for them not to have some bother with it.

Matthean · 10-31-2011, 07:29 PM

And AMC isn't putting new episodes up online after the season premiere.

Swaggs · 10-31-2011, 07:36 PM

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And yet we've seen a herd of 30 or so Zombies plus 4 or 5 in the forest in 2 days that are within my-son's-been-shot-i'm-going-to-run-him-to-the-nearest-help distance? That seems to be a pretty high zombie density for them not to have some bother with it.

Well, the herds were on the highway and near a school (that could have been used as a temporary shelter, based on the fact that they had medical trailers set up in the parking lot) that required that Shane and Otis drove to it.

The only few that we've seen in/near the woods were the ones that followed Sophie and Rick in, the hanging camper, and the ones that were in the church.

Since they have showed a handful of campsites throughout the woods, I'm not seeing anything too unbelievable from that.

stevew · 10-31-2011, 07:37 PM

It is $3/episode on iTunes. I wish Dexter had a similar model.

Butter · 11-01-2011, 07:48 AM

Yeah, it would have to be well water and a gas generator. As someone mentions, you need a power company and a water company... I think laptops and cell phones would be generally useless by now. It's not like this is a CONTAGION (the movie) type outbreak, where just 15-20% of people are infected. This is a full-on, 99.9% of the population has been eradicated event. There are no more cell networks or internet infrastructure. Everything is down.

I was actually wondering how they had white bread to make Rick a sandwich, that was my biggest wtf of the night.

stevew · 11-01-2011, 07:54 AM

Lol, agreed on the white bread.

Also...these people live in a world where nobody has ever fashioned a spear? Phalanx defense for the win.

Swaggs · 11-01-2011, 10:11 AM

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Yeah, it would have to be well water and a gas generator. As someone mentions, you need a power company and a water company... I think laptops and cell phones would be generally useless by now. It's not like this is a CONTAGION (the movie) type outbreak, where just 15-20% of people are infected. This is a full-on, 99.9% of the population has been eradicated event. There are no more cell networks or internet infrastructure. Everything is down.

I was actually wondering how they had white bread to make Rick a sandwich, that was my biggest wtf of the night.

Heh... the white bread caught my eye, too.

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10-27-2011, 11:36 AM	#457
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I'll just ditto the name struggle thing, but what's interesting is that other than Rick & Shane, which names have stuck seem to vary. Not sure if that says something about the characters, about us, or both. FTR, in addition to the those two, Dale's name was probably the first one to stick with me since Merle. I think Darryl & T-Bone are now immediately identifiable to me by name, but that's something new to Season 2. I've almost got Lori's name down, but Andrea, the other woman, and the kids ... I still steadily whiff on. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

10-27-2011, 11:38 AM	#458
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I don't have too much trouble with the names, probably because I've read the comics and therefore have a pretty decent foundation from which to work from. Even with that, I used to get Dale and Glenn confused and sometimes get Dale and Darryl confused, but I think it's all pretty straight right now. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

10-27-2011, 01:19 PM	#463
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10-27-2011, 02:08 PM	#464
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	I didn't even know t-bones name till the last episode.. I really started out not liking darryl's character.. but his character has really grown on me in the past few episodes.. Don't like shane's brooding at all however.. I give tubby otis a 0% chance of making it back from the school alive also, if otis was studying to be a paramedic.. wouldn't he have been a better choice to be doing triage surgery over mr vet? Last edited by Ragone : 10-27-2011 at 02:09 PM.

10-27-2011, 09:28 AM	#454
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	I've watched every episode and still don't know most of the character names. I think that speaks to the unremarkable writing, or perhaps more to my cognitive shortcomings.

10-27-2011, 11:47 AM	#461
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I don't know the names at all (well, Rick and Shane I guess... and if you say someone else's name, maybe I know who you are talking about... but I can't sit there identifying anyone else). I find the characters pretty dull, except for the hillbilly guy (is that Merle?), and I like when someone dies in hopes that they are replaced with a more interesting character. I'm still watching the show because I like the idea of it and they have some nice scenes once in awhile.

10-30-2011, 08:05 AM	#467
SteveMax58 College Starter Join Date: Dec 2006	I've been DVR'ing & watching these episodes later in the week (usually Friday) so I've been avoiding this thread until after I see the latest episode. I'll also confirm that the names are not engrained in my memory very much at all. Rick, Shane, and usually Lori now. Everybody else is just the old guy, asian dude, black dude, the deer hunter (which now has a completely different context...so I'll need to change it), blonde woman, woman who isnt blonde woman but also not Lori, and the random kids (one of which is Rick's son...maybe thats it?). I thought ep2 was ok. Very much a tease/setup episode though. My wife asked me while we were watching it, "Is this show going to become 'Lost'?"...to which I said "Probably". One thing I have to say that is starting to annoy me. The "Rick & Shane verbal heroism battles" are getting old. I get "what" they are trying to communicate but they just seem too contrived & illogical to me. IDK what they could do better but they are really not sitting well with me. Rick: I need to leave my dieing son here without access to my blood so I can go get Lori just in case he dies...which will probably happen if I do leave. Shane: You need to be here with your son...ya know...because he'll die if you dont. Rick: Gah!!! His mother should be here & I need to go get her!! Its not right! Shane: You know I'd take a bullet in my pee-pee for ya buddy, right? I mean...no shit...straight up. But I dont think you should go get her. Rick: I gotta go get her...[collapses] Shane: Phew...glad I didnt have to prove that one. Last edited by SteveMax58 : 10-30-2011 at 08:07 AM.

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10-30-2011, 09:58 PM	#469
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10-30-2011, 10:19 PM	#470
gi College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Berkley, MI	Yeah, Shane's soul is going for a sun tan.

10-30-2011, 10:20 PM	#471
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Yeah, I was pretty sure right when Shane got back that Otis was the reason he got away. But I was hoping it was in a positive, heroic way. And the second Shane seemed to be standing off by himself, I was suspecting it wasn't that way. Brutal turn this one has taken, and really has me wondering (as someone who has not read the comics) what will happen with Shane as the series goes forward. Oh yeah, and I'm beginning to get annoyed at Sophie. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-30-2011, 10:34 PM	#473
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The television show has already diverged considerably from the comic, so outside of general settings/direction and a few important characters that I presume are coming (that are just too cool to pass up), I don't think anyone knows what is going to happen on the show. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-31-2011, 09:44 AM	#475
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Poor Otis. That was pretty brutal. At first I was surprised that they had Shane roll up alone and had their "escape" happen off screen. But then... poor Otis. It's not just that Shane left him for dead to get away, but rather instead of killing the poor guy and leaving his freshly killed body as bait, he wings his leg making him an even bigger distraction and suffer horrificly painful death. I found Shane's actions in that sense a very nice and sharp contrast to Rick's whole "deer speech" about why it was important for Carl to live. Sure, there is still some beauty left in the world, but it's so fleeting and what happened with Shane and Otis will be much more the reality as people get more and more desperate. I am still not sure how the farm house has both electricity and running water. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

10-31-2011, 10:18 AM	#476
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one having trouble keeping the character names straight. I was afraid my enormous alcohol intake was finally catching up with me. Fast forwarded through all the scenes in the room with the injured kid, which improved the pace considerably. Pretty sure I didn't miss any important dialogue between the sheriff and his annoying wife. 'Curly' shaved his head. Now I guess I have to learn his real name.

10-31-2011, 10:21 AM	#478
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I was thinking the farmhouse was on a NG generator. I also wonder if Zombie Otis will lead a pack towards the farmhouse, as that place would be a fresh memory.

10-31-2011, 10:25 AM	#480
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Lori's acting made Prison Break painful at times. I hope that she meets her doom soon.

10-31-2011, 11:43 AM	#483
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Hmm, I hadn't recalled the hubbub about the CDC. Running water and electricity and all there made complete sense to me. Not only is it a facility built by an organization with endless amounts of money (the government), but the specific purpose of the CDC was to fight disease. Since serious widespread disease==plague, it makes sense that the CDC would be designed to withstand a widespread plague and be self-sufficient, at least for a certain length of time, probably stretching months if not years. Farmhouse, meh, not so much. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-31-2011, 01:39 PM	#485
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Remember that they have moved on to rural Georgia. It is not at all unusual for a farmhouse to have well water (I don't know a ton about that particular part of the country, but I'd say it is more the norm for places outside towns around here) and a gasoline or natural gas generator would not be unusual, either. If it is natural gas, it would not be noisy (and, I'd guess it is, as they'd be conserving gasoline by now, I suspect). As for the density of zombies, they appear where they lived/died, so there wouldn't be very many in the country. And, it appears as if people flocked to the city for protection and services when the outbreak first occurred, so even less than the occuppied homes. If Herschel's farm is several hundred acres and they turned away any roamers during the first few months of the outbreak, I'd say they are pretty safe at present. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-31-2011, 03:17 PM	#487
gi College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Berkley, MI	My natural gas generator for my server room is very loud. Though I'm sure you can muffle it some if you tried.

10-31-2011, 03:25 PM	#488
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I don't think that electric power or natural gas would necessarily be down...it's not like they got nuked or something to that effect. Now certain areas were probably broken. These people also don't have cell phones? Or laptops. Even if this is wonton apocalypse, the Zombies wouldn't care about destroying infrastructure. And they need to find that girl because fake Jamie Lee Curtis is getting on my last nerve.

10-31-2011, 03:54 PM	#490
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	It's been months since the invasion seemed to overwhelm everything. There's a reason there's a power company and water company. These things break without supervision.

10-31-2011, 04:02 PM	#492
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Man, you guys piss and moan too much. I'm enjoying it more this season than last season so far. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

10-31-2011, 07:29 PM	#495
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	And AMC isn't putting new episodes up online after the season premiere. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

10-31-2011, 07:37 PM	#497
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	It is $3/episode on iTunes. I wish Dexter had a similar model.

11-01-2011, 07:48 AM	#498
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Yeah, it would have to be well water and a gas generator. As someone mentions, you need a power company and a water company... I think laptops and cell phones would be generally useless by now. It's not like this is a CONTAGION (the movie) type outbreak, where just 15-20% of people are infected. This is a full-on, 99.9% of the population has been eradicated event. There are no more cell networks or internet infrastructure. Everything is down. I was actually wondering how they had white bread to make Rick a sandwich, that was my biggest wtf of the night. __________________ My listening habits

11-01-2011, 07:54 AM	#499
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Lol, agreed on the white bread. Also...these people live in a world where nobody has ever fashioned a spear? Phalanx defense for the win.

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