NFL 2019 Season Thread

[stevew]

I like Ron Rivera but they’ve lost 11 out of 12 games maybe? Seems like he might be the first coaching casualty this year unless they can bounce back soon and start playing Panther football.

[RendeR]

I think Rivera is done no matter where they end up. I don't think they'll continue putting up with doing just enough to lose every week.

[PilotMan]

Didn't watch any of the game last night, then read this, and if this is how it was, then.....ooooof, how long will the game last played like this?


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[albionmoonlight]

Dolphins give Minkah Fitzpartick permission to seek a trade.

I don't get this move at all. If you are rebuilding, this is the exact sort of good young player that you keep so you can rebuild around him.

I mean, tanking for a draft pick is one thing. And getting value for older players who won't be round on the other side of the rebuild makes sense.

But this is a good young player. He's a piece they will have to replace as they rebuild. So why not just keep him?

[BishopMVP]

Empty cupboard!

Also, Cam & Rivera deserve their share of the criticism, but that OL & the LT in particular were brutal last night. It's not like Shaq Barrett is an elite edge rusher.

[Lathum]

Jesus the Giants are bad.

I don't ever remember a half of football where so many offensive players are open by 15 yards.

[sabotai]

At this rate, James Bettcher won't make it to the end of the season. The defense has been atrocious so far.

[Thomkal]

I'm becoming more of a believer of the Cards offense today...

[Lathum]

Brady still in the game up 37 with 5 minutes left and throwing the ball downfield. BB is a savage

[bhlloy]

Cousins is such a below average QB. That contract is an absolute abomination.

[QuikSand]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

I'm becoming more of a believer of the Cards offense today...

And I’m becoming more of a believer of the Ravens offense today. It’s intriguing, they are willing to use most anyone in most any situation...burner WR on quick curls, TEs on deep outs, all RBs catching passes or between the tackles. It’s sorta like the Dutch “complete football” concept. With this QB, could be awfully tough to defend.

[Atocep]

Well we already have a contender for worst unnecessary roughness call of the year. Leonard Floyd throws a running back to the ground in the backfield and gets flagged.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Brady still in the game up 37 with 5 minutes left and throwing the ball downfield. BB is a savage

Gotta get Brady and the new WR's some reps in the preseason

Originally Posted by QuikSand

And I’m becoming more of a believer of the Ravens offense today. It’s intriguing, they are willing to use most anyone in most any situation...burner WR on quick curls, TEs on deep outs, all RBs catching passes or between the tackles. It’s sorta like the Dutch “complete football” concept. With this QB, could be awfully tough to defend.

I'm not claiming I knew he'd be this good, but I always thought Jackson could throw accurately enough in college, even if he didn't have the rocket arm where he can drive the ball into tight pockets. As much as people want to yell at analysts it was honestly weirder that the Ravens forced him to run that shell of an offense last year.

[Thomkal]

I have to think Josh Rosen is wondering what he did to piss off God.

[tucker rocky]

[bhlloy]

Walt Anderson just absolutely fucked the Saints again. Whatever happened to letting it play itself out and sorting it out on replay?

The standard of refereeing in the NFL just continues to go into the toilet. Every week more and more marginal flags impacting the game in negative ways.

[Atocep]

This is what Leonard Floyd was flagged for.

Leonard Floyd was flagged for this tackle...................... pic.twitter.com/U8rt40Nkkg

— #BOOMIN (@ftbeard_17) September 15, 2019

[NobodyHere]

There's speculation that Adam Vinatieri might be retiring tomorrow after a dismal start to the season.

Adam Vinatieri vows “You’ll hear from me tomorrow� after more struggles in Week 2 - Stampede Blue

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Walt Anderson just absolutely fucked the Saints again. Whatever happened to letting it play itself out and sorting it out on replay?

The standard of refereeing in the NFL just continues to go into the toilet. Every week more and more marginal flags impacting the game in negative ways.

I’m not a conspiracy guy. But Saints/Rams brings me close to the edge.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

There's speculation that Adam Vinatieri might be retiring tomorrow after a dismal start to the season.

Adam Vinatieri vows “You’ll hear from me tomorrow� after more struggles in Week 2 - Stampede Blue

He better not quit on the team!

[bhlloy]

Anybody want to tell the Raiders secondary that Mahomes can throw more than 25 yards downfield? Holy crap.

[EagleFan]

Refs f'd up that offside. Shouldn't have been at the 1. The Broncos had the first 5 yard penalty.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Refs f'd up that offside. Shouldn't have been at the 1. The Broncos had the first 5 yard penalty.

Was just coming here for this. How does a false start + offside = the ball gets closer to the end zone for the try? That makes no sense

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Butter

Was just coming here for this. How does a false start + offside = the ball gets closer to the end zone for the try? That makes no sense

That's the discussion I'm having on discord with a friend. How was that call and how did no one of the bears staff notice it?

[Butter]

Bears win anyway. Make up call to put one second on the clock.

[albionmoonlight]

The only upside to the NFL once again making me feel like an idiot for investing my time & passion into being a fan is it frees up tonight for me :-). Because there’s certainly no way that watching Sunday night football makes any sense at this point.

[albionmoonlight]

That said, things do seem to be moving toward some sort of a head. I don’t see any change this season, but I could see some pretty radical changes this offseason—firing the people at the top, instituting a new training program, and moving to full time officials.

Unlike the CTE crisis, there are ways for the NFL to fix this without fundamentally changing the game.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Cousins is such a below average QB. That contract is an absolute abomination.

Yeah, hes a shitshow. Everything was going in his favor in the 2nd half and he blew it.

Although that interception in the back of the end zone at the very least needed to be reviewed. If that was a WR I think it would have been reversed. Of course in Green Bay, they wont even review that yet will call offensive interference off of a review against the Vikings(very questionable considering I think that is the first time they have called any type of interference off of a review). It always feels like the refs screw the Vikings playing in Green Bay. I can watch 10 college games on any given Saturday and feel the refs do a fine job and the majority of the time in the NFL I feel the refs are deciding games. Rant over!

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Brady still in the game up 37 with 5 minutes left and throwing the ball downfield. BB is a savage

I’m all for every team making the Dolphins pay for openly tanking.

Make it so painful that teams are reluctant to do it going forward.

[Jstraub]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Yeah, hes a shitshow. Everything was going in his favor in the 2nd half and he blew it.

Although that interception in the back of the end zone at the very least needed to be reviewed. If that was a WR I think it would have been reversed. Of course in Green Bay, they wont even review that yet will call offensive interference off of a review against the Vikings(very questionable considering I think that is the first time they have called any type of interference off of a review). It always feels like the refs screw the Vikings playing in Green Bay. I can watch 10 college games on any given Saturday and feel the refs do a fine job and the majority of the time in the NFL I feel the refs are deciding games. Rant over!

whine, whine, whine. Its the mantra of the losing teams' fans in the NFL these days and the NO game last year really opened the floodgates. Maybe if your teams fans whine enough they will make a special rule for you (a ala New Orleans Saints)

The vikings had 3 quarters to score > 21 points and beat the packers today. They didn't but apparently "... the refs are deciding games".

The saints got handled by the rams today and that missed fumble would have done nothing to change that but I'm sure ""... the refs are deciding games".


Look it sucks when your team loses, especially in a close game, but the NFL is now catering to the fans with every change to the replay system. Thats dangerous IMO. Where is it written that all wrongs must be righted? Life doesn't work that way, why should football?

And yeah, maybe college football doesn't have as many noticeable officiating gaffes but most of those games are decided by the middle of the second quarter. Who cares if Arkansas State got a terrible spot on 4 and 1. They lost 55 -0 to Georgia (i.e., nobodies watching and if they are they dont care). At least most NFL games are competitive into the 4th quarter.

If you dont like it, stop watching. Ironically, that action will have the greatest impact on games.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

The only upside to the NFL once again making me feel like an idiot for investing my time & passion into being a fan is it frees up tonight for me :-). Because there’s certainly no way that watching Sunday night football makes any sense at this point.

I saw 3 personal fouls that have no place being called (Floyd, Goldman, Chubb) in the Bears/Broncos game. They called holding on Garrett Brolles 4 times and could have called it another half dozen. Missing a holding call though doesn't seem to impact the overall enjoyment of the game anywhere near as much as seeing terrible personal foul calls. The personal foul calls tend be to be game changers and it's frustrating to see what should clearly legal hits flagged.

[Ryche]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Cousins is such a below average QB. That contract is an absolute abomination.

At least it's only through next season. He lost that game, plain and simple. No game winning drives since 2017 with that defense and receiver pair is pathetic.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I’m all for every team making the Dolphins pay for openly tanking.

Make it so painful that teams are reluctant to do it going forward.

Me too.

I have them at 30-1 to not win a game. After todays shitshow it dropped to 3-1.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Jstraub

Where is it written that all wrongs must be righted?

The entire point. The refs selectively chose what to review. Ive hated replay since it first came out. They arent fixing wrongs. They are selectively choosing when to fix wrongs.

[jbergey22]

The Eagles are down 3 wide receivers and a TE this game. Going to make it tough to comeback.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

The Eagles are down 3 wide receivers and a TE this game. Going to make it tough to comeback.

Matt Ryan is making it a lot easier, though.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

The entire point. The refs selectively chose what to review. Ive hated replay since it first came out. They arent fixing wrongs. They are selectively choosing when to fix wrongs.

I've been in the sauce.
So my memory isn't supporting me.

But who was it whomsaisdd " the essence of tyranny isnt iron fist rule of law it's capricious law"
Applies here as well

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I've been in the sauce.
So my memory isn't supporting me.

But who was it whomsaisdd " the essence of tyranny isnt iron fist rule of law it's capricious law"
Applies here as well

Nice comparison, I think you nailed it. Christopher Hitchens

[larrymcg421]

Tanking is unethical and the people who advocate that strategy are not true fans of the sport or their own team.

[EagleFan]

Bit of a block in the back on that Falcons' touchdown.

[EagleFan]

dola: and not an insignificant one, the key block.

[EagleFan]

Ugh, two bad drops.

[EagleFan]

Now Ertz hurt...

[EagleFan]

Now Peters... what is going on today.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Atocep

This is what Leonard Floyd was flagged for.

Leonard Floyd was flagged for this tackle...................... pic.twitter.com/U8rt40Nkkg

— #BOOMIN (@ftbeard_17) September 15, 2019

Welp, refs made up for it for it with the call on Bradley Chubb on the game winning drive.

This was called roughing the passer on Bradley Chubb. pic.twitter.com/EA20wdl3gi

— NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) September 15, 2019

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Tanking is unethical and the people who advocate that strategy are not true fans of the sport or their own team.

I could care less about unethical if it's the NBA, or maybe even Week 16/17 where you basically toss a game so you get pick #3 instead of #8. It's just dumb in the NFL for a season, especially when there isn't some generational QB prospect sitting there.

[PilotMan]

Football is more broken than ever. It's been 2 weeks of real games and I've watched maybe 6 snaps. Game changing penalties for playing the game, reviewing and awarding marginal pass interference calls has just broken it. I get why they are doing it, but....it's not good.

[albionmoonlight]

My Week 2 way too early assessment of the league:

NFC Playoff teams: Rams, 49ers, Packers, Falcons, Cowboys, Eagles.

AFC Playoff teams: Pats, Bills, Colts, Texans, Chiefs, Ravens.

Pats will not go 16-0 (but it will be close)
Dolphins will go 0-16 (full blown team mutiny)

I'm weirdly confident about that AFC prediction. The NFC less so because the Bears or Vikings or Seahawks could all sneak into that 6th spot.

[Kodos]

The Falcons game last night was very entertaining. Glad Atlanta pulled out the victory.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

There's speculation that Adam Vinatieri might be retiring tomorrow after a dismal start to the season.

Adam Vinatieri vows “You’ll hear from me tomorrow� after more struggles in Week 2 - Stampede Blue

Maybe he can play for the Dolphins!

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Tanking is unethical and the people who advocate that strategy are not true fans of the sport or their own team.

Fans should not go to Dolphins games. Hit ownership in the wallet.