The NFL 2011 Offseason/Strike/Lockout Thread

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Bill loves the guy. Anyone know how it started?

[Julio Riddols]

Glad to see Ocho leave Cinci.. I just wonder if Mike Brown is going to do anything at all with all the cap room he has.. I doubt any big names would want to come to Cinci, but with the money available, they could give Nnamdi 15 mil and still have something like 25-30 mil left to spend.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Chad Johnson and Albert Haynesworth?

I wonder how long they will last. Didn't the Patriots ship Moss out of town last year because he was becoming a distraction? Then they go ahead sign two of the bigger headaches in the leauge? Smacks of a bit of arrogance.

I've always kind of liked the Patriots because of Tom Brad. Can the power of Tom Brady overcome this?

Tune in to find out!

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

As in Early Doucet? Srsly?

Yes seriously Jon. He had a few moments last season, but I think he was injured too at some point.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Comparing Johnson and Haynesworth is a bit unfair to 85. One's braggadocious. The other has broken the law, turned on his teammates, turned on his coaches, and committed assault during an NFL game.

[Ksyrup]

Breaking news: Pats sign Lindsay Lohan and corpse of Amy Winehouse.

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Logan

Keep your eyes fixed squarely on the backs of your offensive linemen.

Originally Posted by Izulde

I'm actually intrigued to see what Reggie Bush can do for us. I'm waiting to hear what we gave up, though.

Rush 5 times a game for 17 yards and maybe return one punt for 3.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Breaking news: Pats sign Lindsay Lohan and corpse of Amy Winehouse.

Seems like even money that at least one of those is on the active roster longer than Haynesworth.

[SirFozzie]

Agreed with Jon here. It's like Billy's saying "I CAN TURN ANYONE AROUND! I'M BILL FUCKING BELICHICK"

all the good news is we've cornered the market on headcases in this market. :P

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Chad Johnson and Albert Haynesworth?

I wonder how long they will last. Didn't the Patriots ship Moss out of town last year because he was becoming a distraction? Then they go ahead sign two of the bigger headaches in the leauge? Smacks of a bit of arrogance.

I've always kind of liked the Patriots because of Tom Brad. Can the power of Tom Brady overcome this?

Tune in to find out!

Haynesworth is a 1-2 year guy max. I have little faith he will work in the end, but we'll see. I don't see Ocho being as much of an issue. Sure, he's a cut up, but I think in the right environment he works out. I can't imagine putting him in the same category as Moss. Ocho at least had the ability to stay with one team as where Moss will be on team 5, IIRC. I think Bill partly looks at these as short term deals where he gets what he can out of it, and when/if it goes bad he dumps the player.

If it hasn't been mentioned, Vince Young is done with the Titans.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Greg Olsen to Panthers.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

all the good news is we've cornered the market on headcases in this market. :P

{reads item about Vince Young's release}

Umm ....

[SirFozzie]

Oh shit. Don't do it Bill. STEP AWAY FROM VINCE YOUNG!

[GrantDawg]

Vince Young looks like he is going to be Philly's head case. Young and Vick?

[SteveMax58]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Haynesworth is a 1-2 year guy max. I have little faith he will work in the end, but we'll see. I don't see Ocho being as much of an issue. Sure, he's a cut up, but I think in the right environment he works out. I can't imagine putting him in the same category as Moss. Ocho at least had the ability to stay with one team as where Moss will be on team 5, IIRC. I think Bill partly looks at these as short term deals where he gets what he can out of it, and when/if it goes bad he dumps the player.

+1

I think its more along the lines of the Pats being a known quantity & Superbowl contender every season. These players will play hard for a chance at a ring for at least 1 season, maybe 2, before things will go south. The alternative is that they go to a team that has less established success & coaches and these guys flake out much quicker. I think its a good gamble for the Pats...not a good gamble for teams like Arizona, Jax, Cleveland (and obviously Cinci & Washington).

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I have zero concerns with Chad Johnson on this team.

edit: Behavior-wise. Performance-wise, I think he'll be useful this year but not expecting big things.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

I have zero concerns with Chad Johnson on this team.

edit: Behavior-wise. Performance-wise, I think he'll be useful this year but not expecting big things.

sounds about right to me.

[Sun Tzu]

Ochocinco is also 33 years old. I don't really get this signing.

[Matthean]

Detroit Lions Roster Moves: Recap Of Tuesday, Wednesday - Pride Of Detroit

Summation of what Detroit has done. Even if Rayner doesn't win out, I think he's the next guy and he'll be there for them. It's mostly depending on when Hanson can't do it anymore. Let's be honest. Anybody who is good and willing to be in their 19th season with the Lions deserves some sort of award, or a straightjacket. They just need to fill CB and S.

[Arles]

NFL network just reported CB Jonathan Joseph to the Texans. Good move for them and as a Packer fan, I'm glad the Lions didn't get him.

[BillJasper]

Who in the hell are the Bengals going to spend all that cap room on? Are they going to sign waterboy Sheckey Brown to a one year $40 million dollar contract?

[albionmoonlight]

FWIW, if someone offered me 3-1 odds right now that Haynesworth won't be on the active, opening day roster of the Pats, I would take that bet.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by SteveMax58

+1

I think its more along the lines of the Pats being a known quantity & Superbowl contender every season. These players will play hard for a chance at a ring for at least 1 season, maybe 2, before things will go south. The alternative is that they go to a team that has less established success & coaches and these guys flake out much quicker. I think its a good gamble for the Pats...not a good gamble for teams like Arizona, Jax, Cleveland (and obviously Cinci & Washington).

Sounds like Haynesworth's contract is not guaranteed. So they need one Ted Washington year out of him and then he can go on his merry way.

[mckerney]

The Vikings finally make a good offseason move by cutting Madieu Williams.

[Izulde]

This quote from Brady Quinn made me laugh re: Orton and Tebow.

Originally Posted by Brady Quinn

Asked if there was any tension between Orton and Tebow, Quinn snapped: "Look, if you're going to ask questions about football, ask questions about football. I'm not here to talk about anyone's relationship status. Save that for Twitter or Facebook or some message board.

[Scoobz0202]

My local Bengal friends are frothing at the mouth.

[JPhillips]

What a shitty time to be from southern Ohio. The Bengals will suck, the Reds are terribly disappointing and OSU should get the death penalty.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Greg Olsen to Panthers.

Un fucking believable. God I hate Angelo.

And this officially means, the Bears have zero of their 2007 draft picks remaining. Corey Graham might be re-signed. That's it.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Un fucking believable. God I hate Angelo.

And this officially means, the Bears have zero of their 2007 draft picks remaining. Corey Graham might be re-signed. That's it.

Yeah, don't understand trading away probably your best receiver. And now they may not keep Kreutz?

[albionmoonlight]

Darren Sproles to the Saints. 4 years, $14 million with $6 million guaranteed.

Didn't take long to find Bush's replacement in the gameplan.

[William051071]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Darren Sproles to the Saints. 4 years, $14 million with $6 million guaranteed.

Didn't take long to find Bush's replacement in the gameplan.

Who is left to run the ball for SD?

Oh wait, SD doesn't need to run, it'll be pass, pass, pass.

[bronconick]

Fairley signed in Detroit, 4 years with a team option for 5. Any other year I would have pegged him as a possible hold out candidate. The NFL needed this new rookie scale years ago.

[yacovfb]

Originally Posted by William051071

Who is left to run the ball for SD?

Oh wait, SD doesn't need to run, it'll be pass, pass, pass.

The two guys who did all the running last year - Ryan Mathews and Mike Tolbert

[Coffee Warlord]

And the Bears get, yes...Roy Williams.

[SteveMax58]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

And the Bears get, yes...Roy Williams.

I think I'd rather have Olsen if given the choice.

[Coffee Warlord]

Ditto. Though both woulda been just fine by me, too. Roy's worth taking a flier on.

[Swaggs]

Steelers resign OLs Willie Colon and Jonathan Scott and release Flozell Adams. I guess Adams had a $5-million cap hit this season, but I'd like to see him back.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Steelers resign OLs Willie Colon and Jonathan Scott and release Flozell Adams. I guess Adams had a $5-million cap hit this season, but I'd like to see him back.

With Colon back, he's the starter at RT. And, his cap hit this year will be $2.7M.

I want no part of Adams, especially at $5M, and certainly not at LT.

Scott is not ideal, but IMO better than Adams at LT.

[Swaggs]

Yeah. I still like the idea of having Adams at RT and depth, but not at that price. To be fair, I guess he has probably made enough money and taken enough of a beating on his body that it may just not be worth it for him to come back without getting a big payday.

I guess there is a chance that Starks could be back (according to Bouchette). He did mention that Starks was having trouble getting his weight under control, but if he could get back at a reasonable ($2-3M hit), I'd probably feel better with him in the fold.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Yeah. I still like the idea of having Adams at RT and depth, but not at that price. To be fair, I guess he has probably made enough money and taken enough of a beating on his body that it may just not be worth it for him to come back without getting a big payday.

I guess there is a chance that Starks could be back (according to Bouchette). He did mention that Starks was having trouble getting his weight under control, but if he could get back at a reasonable ($2-3M hit), I'd probably feel better with him in the fold.

Absolutely. None of the group is great, but if you have Starks (about $3M), Colon ($2.7M) and Scott (about $1M) as your 3 T next year, that is at worst a decent group, and possibly above average. All at a cost of what Starks was scheduled to make.

[stevew]

Over/Under on how many penalties Colon gets for not lining up on the line of scrimmage? I'm saying 3.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Falcons cut Jamal Anderson & Michael Jenkins. Also revealed yesterday that Jerious Norwood would not be re-signed.

[bhlloy]

lol at the Bucs giving a very average punter 19.5 million. Gotta love the salary floor.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Falcons cut Jamal Anderson & Michael Jenkins. Also revealed yesterday that Jerious Norwood would not be re-signed.

Are you Jerious? that's unbelieveable.

[Galaril]

Broncos agree to terms with Willis McGahee- 3yrs for 7.5 million and KCs Shaun Smith going to the Titans according to him on his tweeter page.

[Arles]

Dolphins decided to pass on Orton and signed Matt Moore from the Panthers instead.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Arles

Dolphins decided to pass on Orton and signed Matt Moore from the Panthers instead.

Wasn't Matt Moore pretty awful last year? He doesn't sound like much of an upgrade over Henne.

[Kodos]

It gets harder and harder to care about the Dolphins as time goes by. Matt Moore? I'd rather give Henne one more year to totally verify that he is not the solution.

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Arles

Dolphins decided to pass on Orton and signed Matt Moore from the Panthers instead.

what

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Kodos

It gets harder and harder to care about the Dolphins as time goes by. Matt Moore? I'd rather give Henne one more year to totally verify that he is not the solution.