The Official 2015-2016 NBA Regular Season Thread

[Kodos]

I'm wishing Oladipo could get out of Orlando.

[stevew]

Looks like a slow deadline. One of the Morris shitheads was traded to the Bullets

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by stevew

Looks like a slow deadline. One of the Morris shitheads was traded to the Bullets

Mostly financial trades. Portland finally hits the floor and Miami gets under the luxury tax line.

[murrayyyyy]

Jesus, Grizzlies going full Barnes as they trade Green away for crazy Lance Stephenson. Why do I see them falling to the 5-15 place and giving Denver the pick this year.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Jesus, Grizzlies going full Barnes as they trade Green away for crazy Lance Stephenson. Why do I see them falling to the 5-15 place and giving Denver the pick this year.

They got a lottery protected 1st too. (Because Doc Rivers is drunk)

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by Zinto

They got a lottery protected 1st too. (Because Doc Rivers is drunk)

16, 18 or 19 is what the Clippers own. Wouldn't be shocked if it's heavily protected. I almost expect it to be the 19 pick.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by stevew

Looks like a slow deadline.

It always is. Bill Simmons' fake trades are always way way way way better than the "guy you never heard of for the right to swap second round picks" trades that actually happen at the deadline.

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by stevew

Sad to see Andy go. Probably my favorite Cav of all time. Hopefully Frye can help.

Ditto. Obviously he's not getting much burn these days, but I kinda wish he'd retired a Cavalier.

[korme]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

Ditto. Obviously he's not getting much burn these days, but I kinda wish he'd retired a Cavalier.

Probably will. I expect Portland to waive him and he won't sign anywhere else.

[Groundhog]

Can't resign with Cleveland though unless I'm mistaken - this year at least.

[stevew]

So is Bosh going to be done, done? He's accomplished way more than enough in his career and blood clots aren't worth dealing with.

[korme]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

Can't resign with Cleveland though unless I'm mistaken - this year at least.

Right - I'm just not sure if he has any interest in signing, or if any other team would have an interest in picking him up for that matter.

[korme]

Originally Posted by stevew

So is Bosh going to be done, done? He's accomplished way more than enough in his career and blood clots aren't worth dealing with.

I certainly hope that isn't the case, selfishly. He's always been an underrated star and I would be sad to see him go. His personality is one of the most fun in the league.

[whomario]

Pistons with a sneaky good pickup in Motiejunas, who looked like a legitimate starter for a stretch last season and is a decent fit for what the Pistons play imo. Can´t really judge this season with the injury and the Rockets instability.

And Markieff Morris plea of "i´m a leader ! And sometimes leaders push and shove their teammates during a timeout" was apparently not a success

Grizzlies might have just given up on the season and picked up at least sth in adition to the swap (both are expiring contracts as well). I am still in awe that in all those years they have not managed to find a single serviceable shooter to surround their core ... Mike Miller on 1 leg was by far the best in like a 5 year stretch it seems.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by whomario

Grizzlies might have just given up on the season and picked up at least sth in adition to the swap (both are expiring contracts as well). I am still in awe that in all those years they have not managed to find a single serviceable shooter to surround their core ... Mike Miller on 1 leg was by far the best in like a 5 year stretch it seems.

Because we've wasted so many picks on the next shooting guard since 2010. Xavier Henry, Gerivis Vasquez, Josh Selby, Jamaal Franklin, Jordan Adams and two points with D Jones and Wroten. 7 of our last 9 draft picks have been a guard.

[wustin]

'NBA 2K' Developers Can't Figure Out How to Properly Virtualize Stephen Curry | Bleacher Report

I guess the developers didn't expect Curry to turn into a monster during the 2015 offseason. Can't really emulate the volume of 3-pointers he takes (11 attempts) and how much and how far he shoots them off the dribble. This makes me really look forward to 2K17 because it's going to be fun going up against a more accurate Steph Curry AI.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by whomario

Pistons with a sneaky good pickup in Motiejunas, who looked like a legitimate starter for a stretch last season and is a decent fit for what the Pistons play imo. Can´t really judge this season with the injury and the Rockets instability.

And Markieff Morris plea of "i´m a leader ! And sometimes leaders push and shove their teammates during a timeout" was apparently not a success

Grizzlies might have just given up on the season and picked up at least sth in adition to the swap (both are expiring contracts as well). I am still in awe that in all those years they have not managed to find a single serviceable shooter to surround their core ... Mike Miller on 1 leg was by far the best in like a 5 year stretch it seems.

so this trade got waived off to injury, right?

[wustin]

Originally Posted by stevew

so this trade got waived off to injury, right?

Yeah he got a physical, apparently he has a bad back.

[miami_fan]

Are the Wizards really this bad on defense? First they allow the Bulls to have run a layup line early in the 3rd, now open threes.

[Alf]

What about Varejo being traded from Cleveland to Portland, then wived and picked up by the Warriors.

To me, he really fits the "big guys can play ball" Golden State style of play. If he remains healthy, he can be a solid backup option at PF/C.

[Groundhog]

If Andy has anything left in the tank he's as good a passer as Bogut, and I agree he seems to fit what they do pretty well for spurts. Kills me to see him playing for another team.

[nol]

The other funny thing about the voided trade was the Sixers waiving Jakarr Sampson to be able to bring in Joel Anthony's contract only for Denver to immediately claim Sampson on waivers, which couldn't be undone. For all the hand-wringing about how the Sixers only have 2 NBA players or whatever, I found it interesting that the 15th man on the league's worst team was claimed so quickly when plenty other players wouldn't be at all.

Brooklyn is going to buy out Joe Johnson, and he's probably heading to Cleveland if that gets done.

[wustin]

Originally Posted by Alf

What about Varejo being traded from Cleveland to Portland, then wived and picked up by the Warriors.

To me, he really fits the "big guys can play ball" Golden State style of play. If he remains healthy, he can be a solid backup option at PF/C.

Varejao gets a ring before Cleveland does.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by nol

The other funny thing about the voided trade was the Sixers waiving Jakarr Sampson to be able to bring in Joel Anthony's contract only for Denver to immediately claim Sampson on waivers, which couldn't be undone. For all the hand-wringing about how the Sixers only have 2 NBA players or whatever, I found it interesting that the 15th man on the league's worst team was claimed so quickly when plenty other players wouldn't be at all.

I'm not sure he was the 15th guy on the team since he played 47 games for them and averaged almost 15 mins a game. It was more about a team like the 76ers carrying Thompson, Stauskas, Wroten, Pressey and Sampson at the shooting guard position plus the fact that the Nuggets have 1 shooting guard on the roster in Gary Harris who is getting run into the ground right now playing over 35 mins a game as of late. They got Sampson on the cheap with a partial guarantee for next season. Add in Chandler being done for the season, they would have Barton playing the 2/3 and some 4 in every game without adding someone.

[whomario]

Curry is 3 makes away from scoring more 3s than anybody not named Stephen Curry and is on pace to eclipse his own record by a cool 100+.

That 3 to end the first quarter was one of those where you can´t help but giggle.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

I'm not sure he was the 15th guy on the team since he played 47 games for them and averaged almost 15 mins a game.

Yeah. 10th in total minutes on the roster, 9th in games played, 11th in avg mins per game.

14th on their roster is probably Carl Landry. 15th is a guy that appears to have not played for them all year (D-League? Unsigned?), draft pick Luka Mitrovic.

[nol]

Of all the stupid things to nitpick... He was the one player they chose to waive, and everyone playing fewer minutes per game than him was injured earlier in the season or a veteran who was brought in for locker room purposes. He played 10 total minutes his last 5 games with the 76ers and had 3 DNP-CDs in that span.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by nol

Of all the stupid things to nitpick... He was the one player they chose to waive, and everyone playing fewer minutes per game than him was injured earlier in the season.

But the point, I think, is that you're talking about a team playing 11 guys a night tops. If you're playing every night, you're not the 15th guy. Richaun Holmes and Carl Landry both play(ed) less than Sampson even when healthy ... meaning he might be the 10th/11th guy, but he's not 15th.

[korme]

Oscar Robertson is indefensible.

[nol]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

But the point, I think, is that you're talking about a team playing 11 guys a night tops. If you're playing every night, you're not the 15th guy. Richaun Holmes and Carl Landry both play(ed) less than Sampson even when healthy ... meaning he might be the 10th/11th guy, but he's not 15th.

No, the point is when people are talking about a team that allegedly has zero idea of what it's doing, 1-2 real NBA players, nothing to show for losing, etc., the rest of the league sure seems to have a pretty healthy interest in the players on the 76ers roster based on any transaction that's taken place over the past few years.

There are quite a few players around the league, who, if waived, would clear waivers and that'd be the end of their NBA career, but the most disposable player on the allegedly worst/most clueless NBA team ever does not fit that bill.

Also you're missing that when most players on the roster are unproven commodities and there are a lot of injuries, the rotation is going to be much more fluid. I'm sure if you looked over the past month or so, Holmes played more than Sampson (which is saying something because Holmes plays the same position as Noel and Okafor).

[Groundhog]

This might be blasphemy, but as a non-Warriors fan, watching the Warriors play is kinda becoming a bit of a bore for me. Seems crazy to say considering we are (probably) witnessing the greatest shooter in the history of basketball at his peak, but the novelty of all the crazy long and/or contested 3s is not keeping my attention like it did a year ago, and I'm switching to different games.

[wustin]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

This might be blasphemy, but as a non-Warriors fan, watching the Warriors play is kinda becoming a bit of a bore for me. Seems crazy to say considering we are (probably) witnessing the greatest shooter in the history of basketball at his peak, but the novelty of all the crazy long and/or contested 3s is not keeping my attention like it did a year ago, and I'm switching to different games.

I enjoy run n gun with chucking more than slow paced isoball with a bajillion free throws.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by nol

No, the point is when people are talking about a team that allegedly has zero idea of what it's doing, 1-2 real NBA players, nothing to show for losing, etc., the rest of the league sure seems to have a pretty healthy interest in the players on the 76ers roster based on any transaction that's taken place over the past few years.

There are quite a few players around the league, who, if waived, would clear waivers and that'd be the end of their NBA career, but the most disposable player on the allegedly worst/most clueless NBA team ever does not fit that bill.

Also you're missing that when most players on the roster are unproven commodities and there are a lot of injuries, the rotation is going to be much more fluid. I'm sure if you looked over the past month or so, Holmes played more than Sampson (which is saying something because Holmes plays the same position as Noel and Okafor).

And you seem to be missing the biggest point. He has the lowest guaranteed contract out of every SG at $258,489 with a non-guarantee next season. Sean Kirkpatrick makes 50k on a 10 day contract so it's the option of taking on a guy like Sampson with about 50 days of contracts. I doubt if they catch Utah for the 8 seed so why not save money by bringing in a cheap guy with a known contract compared to giving out 10 day contracts until April 13th.

It's not because he was good or bad. It's because he was cheap as hell which is right up the 76ers alley over the past few seasons.

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by wustin

I enjoy run n gun with chucking more than slow paced isoball with a bajillion free throws.

If they were the only two options, I'd agree. Actually finding the Pacers a good watch with Turner in the starting 5.

[nol]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

And you seem to be missing the biggest point. He has the lowest guaranteed contract out of every SG at $258,489 with a non-guarantee next season. Sean Kirkpatrick makes 50k on a 10 day contract so it's the option of taking on a guy like Sampson with about 50 days of contracts. I doubt if they catch Utah for the 8 seed so why not save money by bringing in a cheap guy with a known contract compared to giving out 10 day contracts until April 13th.

It's not because he was good or bad. It's because he was cheap as hell which is right up the 76ers alley over the past few seasons.

Because according to the logic of people like you, the 76ers do nothing aside from try to sign the worst players possible to ensure that they lose the most games. If that's the case, there are a dozen "real" NBA players out there who the 76ers have been keeping out of the league the past 3 seasons, so it should be a no-brainer for a team like Denver to sign one of them to the exact same contract.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by nol

Because according to the logic of people like you, the 76ers do nothing aside from try to sign the worst players possible to ensure that they lose the most games.

For the record, that ain't my schtick, so it had nothing to do with my interest.

My looking at the minutes played was merely another case where someone made a statement (15th guy) and I was curious enough & bored enough & looking to be distracted long enough to look up what the numbers actually said.

I gave pretty much zero shit one way or the other what narrative the numbers would support, I just wondered what they showed.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by nol

Because according to the logic of people like you, the 76ers do nothing aside from try to sign the worst players possible to ensure that they lose the most games. If that's the case, there are a dozen "real" NBA players out there who the 76ers have been keeping out of the league the past 3 seasons, so it should be a no-brainer for a team like Denver to sign one of them to the exact same contract.

They have more losses this year than wins over the past 2.66 seasons. I refuse to see it as a positive unless the win 20 games this year. 19 two years ago, 18 last year, and unless they go on a run 15 wins this year.

The Blazers were 20 million under the salary floor before they pulled a philly trading for contracts at the deadline and they may win more games this year than philly will over three years. That's an embarrassment to "the process".

[nol]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

They have more losses this year than wins over the past 2.66 seasons. I refuse to see it as a positive unless the win 20 games this year. 19 two years ago, 18 last year, and unless they go on a run 15 wins this year.

The Blazers were 20 million under the salary floor before they pulled a philly trading for contracts at the deadline and they may win more games this year than philly will over three years. That's an embarrassment to "the process".

First of all, Neil Olshey should be Executive of the Year for how well he transitioned from the Aldridge era into this one. Then again, the Blazers could end up getting smoked by the Spurs/Thunder/Warriors in the first round and will end up doing well enough to surrender their first round pick this year. I suppose if you hold up every single one-year success story as an example of why the Sixers are a bunch of idiots, one of those teams will end up having some sustained level of success.

[korme]

This whole Jakarr Sampson argument is way off base here. He's for all intents and purposes a future role player in the league, Philly just had to sacrifice him for the move. Just because they are shit doesn't mean they haven't found a lot of role guys. But, who the hell knows?

[nol]

Originally Posted by korme

This whole Jakarr Sampson argument is way off base here. He's for all intents and purposes a future role player in the league, Philly just had to sacrifice him for the move. Just because they are shit doesn't mean they haven't found a lot of role guys. But, who the hell knows?

Potentially, but even then that's very good to find players like that for the minimum considering that there are a couple dozen players in the league who make more money and would fall off the face of the basketball earth if their current team was to release them.

[whomario]

Originally Posted by nol

Because according to the logic of people like you, the 76ers do nothing aside from try to sign the worst players possible to ensure that they lose the most games. If that's the case, there are a dozen "real" NBA players out there who the 76ers have been keeping out of the league the past 3 seasons, so it should be a no-brainer for a team like Denver to sign one of them to the exact same contract.

No, they try to sign the best players possible in the lowest possible price range. You see it as "glass half full", others see it as the equivalent of finding the best 2.99 wine. Sure its good for 2.99, but it still is not good. Especially not if you have no real dinner to speak of besides it. Unless you just want to get drunk and stumble home. Or get a good draft pick.


Curry with 51 and 10 threes. How has he still not broke that one game record ? (he has another one now by hitting at least 1 in 128 straight games). Also, now at 276. No way i´m bored yet

[Vince, Pt. II]

He's also the first player in league history to get 50+ points with only one free throw attempt.

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by nol

Potentially, but even then that's very good to find players like that for the minimum considering that there are a couple dozen players in the league who make more money and would fall off the face of the basketball earth if their current team was to release them.

From an article on December 21 so the numbers should be higher now...

Where Are They Now?: Ex-Sixers From Hinkie Era | Hoops Rumors

A whopping 45 players are no longer with the Sixers after having appeared on their regular season roster at some point since the team hired Hinkie in May 2013, and only 16 of them, barely more than a third, are still in the NBA. Eleven of the 45 are playing overseas, 10 are in the D-League, six are free agents and two have announced their retirements.

Furkan Aldemir — playing in Turkey with Darussafaka Dogus
Lavoy Allen — with Pacers
James Anderson — with Kings
Kwame Brown — free agent
Lorenzo Brown — playing in D-League with Pistons affiliate
Michael Carter-Williams — with Bucks
Earl Clark — playing in D-League with Suns affiliate
Jared Cunningham — with Cavaliers
Brandon Davies — playing in Italy with OpenJobMetis Varese
Dewayne Dedmon — with Magic
Larry Drew II — playing in France with AS Monaco Basket
Tim Frazier — with Trail Blazers
Drew Gordon — playing in France with Chalons-Reims CB
Danny Granger — free agent
Jorge Gutierrez — playing in D-League with Cavs affiliate
Spencer Hawes — with Hornets
Chris Johnson — with Jazz
Darius Johnson-Odom — playing in Turkey with Trabzonspor
Andrei Kirilenko — retired
Malcolm Lee — free agent (scheduled to try out for Nes-Ziona of Israel, international journalist David Pick reports via Twitter)
Eric Maynor — playing in Russia with Nizhny Novgorod
Luc Mbah a Moute — with Clippers
K.J. McDaniels — with Rockets
JaVale McGee — with Mavericks
Darius Morris — free agent (suffered offseason foot injury)
Arnett Moultrie — playing in Lebanon with Sporting Al Riyadi Beirut
Byron Mullens — playing in D-League with Heat affiliate
James Nunnally — playing in Italy with Sidigas Avellino
Daniel Orton — playing in D-League with Warriors affiliate
Phil Pressey — playing in D-League with Jazz affiliate
Jason Richardson — retired
Ronald Roberts Jr. — playing in D-League with Raptors affiliate
Glenn Robinson III — with Pacers
Thomas Robinson — with Nets
Alexey Shved — playing in Russia with Khimki
Henry Sims — playing in D-League with Pistons affiliate
Ish Smith — with Pelicans
Adonis Thomas — free agent (suffered season-ending wrist injury)
Malcolm Thomas — playing in D-League with Lakers affiliate
Ronny Turiaf — free agent
Evan Turner — with Celtics
Jarvis Varnado — playing in Italy with Banco di Sardegna Sassari
Casper Ware — playing in China with Tianjin Ronggang
Elliot Williams — playing in D-League with Warriors affiliate
Thaddeus Young — with Nets

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

From an article on December 21 so the numbers should be higher now...

How many of those players did he inherit? And, honestly, how many were acquired for salary cap purposes? Seems like it'd be unfair to blame him much for either category.

Now if those still in the league are predominantly among the inherited that were dealt then that might put it back on him more.

[nol]

If Chris Bosh hadn't gotten blood clots and the Heat hadn't egregiously tanked last season to keep their draft pick, the 76ers would've traded the only decent player on that list for a lottery pick in the range where players like Justise Winslow, Devin Booker, Myles Turner, Trey Lyles, and Cam Payne were on the board.

Looking around the rest of the league, you could probably count on one hand the number of late 2nd round/undrafted guys from the past 3 years who look to be potential rotation players, so that would appear to be an even lower rate of success. Unless, of course, it's better for a team to just let some crappy player sit at the end of the bench for as long as possible to make it appear that "the verdict's still out" on the player rather than admit drafting/signing him isn't working out.

[CraigSca]

Flipped on the Lakers so I could watch part of the rapist's final year. Is he not playing tonight? Who replaced the Lakers with the starting five from Maryland Eastern-Shore?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CraigSca

Flipped on the Lakers so I could watch part of the rapist's final year. Is he not playing tonight? Who replaced the Lakers with the starting five from Maryland Eastern-Shore?

Kobe out, sore right shoulder

[bhlloy]

And all the fans who paid premium Lakers prices for tickets to watch a .250 team were sorely vexed

[bhlloy]

DOLA - close to a 30 point game as well. A lot of people are probably pissed

[Ajaxab]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Kobe out, sore right shoulder

With how many shots the guy takes...