COVID-19 - Wuhan Coronavirus (a non-political thread, see pg. 36 #1778)

[RainMaker]

[miami_fan]

Out of curiosity, how many of us have been tested and if you have how many times?

I had been tested three times prior the beginning of the month but I have been some volunteer work that requires that I get tested at least twice a week.

[CU Tiger]

I've been tested, a week ago today in fact only time

[Thomkal]

none here

[Lathum]

I did the antibody test which came back negative. We were in Disney in Feb and hoped we had been exposed.

[PilotMan]

Nice article in the Times today with good news about possible lower thresholds for herd immunity in certain pockets of the world.

[Ksyrup]

Tested once, early June, negative.

[Butter]

Was tested once prior to a May surgery. Negative.

[Kodos]

Tested twice. Negative.

[Edward64]

Haven't been tested. No symptoms in the family so far.

But this topic has made me think about doing it. Apparently I can setup an appt with local CVS for drive through testing.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

UNC-Chapel Hill pivots to remote teaching after coronavirus spreads among students during first week of class
By Nick Anderson

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...1c4_story.html


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Y’know, if you wanted to say “college kids will stay in their college bubble, not get too sick, (and somehow not spread the virus to their vulnerable professors and other staff,) so this is ok” that’d be one thing.
But how does *anyone* think that putting thousands of 18-22-year-olds in close proximity to one another would result in anything but parties, hangouts, hookups, and significant spread of the virus??? It’s completely unreasonable to think in that situation that the students would practice social distancing, wear masks, etc.
And this isn’t any sort of “kids these days” rant. It is the nature of that age—ESPECIALLY when they know that’s it’s highly unlikely that they’ll personally be impacted significantly if they catch it. I wouldn’t have taken precautions. Boomers wouldn't have, Gen X wouldn't have, Millennials wouldn't have. Gen Z isn't.
If the expectation was “they’ll spread it and we’ll deal with it,” at least there would be internal logical consistency.
But I’m completely lost how anyone could have thought, as they apparently did, “let’s go through all the trouble bring the kids on campus--25% or more of whom are living away from home for the first time, and the vast majority of whom are from a state that has had them far more heavily restricted than any other neighboring state--and hope that somehow it magically doesn’t spread all over the place. If it does, even without a lot of symptoms, we’ll shut down.”


Seriously, what were they thinking??? Was it just a brazen money grab? What the heck?

[albionmoonlight]

Not tested. Haven't shown any symptoms and have been living pretty hermit-like since early Spring.

[JPhillips]

I don't know how things played out in NC, but in a number of states public colleges are under severe pressure from donors and politicians to return to normal. Private schools, especially smaller private schools, often literally need the money to survive.

But, yes, it's mostly based on magical thinking. An institution I know well has no testing requirements, no testing on campus, no notification system for positive tests, no requirement for professors to provide simultaneous on-line and F2F instruction for those out, no metrics for changing instruction/living plans, etc. The whole thing is built on the idea that maybe nothing will happen.

Clap louder and Tinkerbell won't die.

[Ksyrup]

I've heard about the UNC protocols from my co-worker with a kid there. They have protocols in place that basically make it impossible to enjoy college in any normal way. But it's the enforcement that's the issue, apparently. For on-campus students, they have them in 4-person pods and attempting to keep small groups to themselves. But you can't lock them in their rooms.

And of course, the frat/sorority houses are treated as their own pods, so on campus, they have restrictions but for those houses, 35 people are allowed to be in close contact without further segregation.

I think this scenario is going to play out across the US on campuses. I fully expect my daughter to either get it or have to quarantine a couple of times from being in contact with people who test positive, Friday night, a couple of her teammates were seen on someone else's instragram in the background of a party - hours after a meeting with the coach about being responsible and limiting interactions.

You'd hope they know better and would be responsible, but how can we expect 18-20 year olds to be more responsible than the adults who have screwed up a potential recovery for the past 3-4 months? We want college kids to sit in their dorms, but adults can rush to the bar without masks the minute they open?

[spleen1015]

I get your point, but we can make our children better. Control what we can control. Just because everyone else is doing it is not a good enough reason for me, never has been as a parent.

I feel like I am the minority when it comes to parenting.

[Ksyrup]

I certainly expect better from my kids. I'm just talking about the whole concept of sending kids to school and expecting them to act any better, collectively, than the general public.

[Brian Swartz]

I haven't been tested at all.

[spleen1015]

This pandemic is the worst thing that could happen to a country that doesn't like to follow rules. We're seeing it.

[HomerSimpson98]

I assume you were referring to the Wuhan water park party?


"The city hasn't reported any new cases since mid-May."

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I get your point, but we can make our children better. Control what we can control. Just because everyone else is doing it is not a good enough reason for me, never has been as a parent.

I feel like I am the minority when it comes to parenting.

Most parents I feel are like this but you can't change how kids that age are wired. It is like any other stage of childhood. Their brains literally aren't developed to where they can think and act like we feel they should in that spot. Parenting skills have little to do with it.

[RainMaker]

No test here but I work from home and have been careful. Mask at the store and limiting contact with people. Even if this isn't deadly to someone like me, I absolutely hate being sick.

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

This pandemic is the worst thing that could happen to a country that doesn't like to follow rules. We're seeing it.

That doesn't apply to just one country, it applies to many disobedient societies.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Y’know, if you wanted to say “college kids will stay in their college bubble, not get too sick, (and somehow not spread the virus to their vulnerable professors and other staff,) so this is ok” that’d be one thing.

But how does *anyone* think that putting thousands of 18-22-year-olds in close proximity to one another would result in anything but parties, hangouts, hookups, and significant spread of the virus??? It’s completely unreasonable to think in that situation that the students would practice social distancing, wear masks, etc.

And this isn’t any sort of “kids these days” rant. It is the nature of that age—ESPECIALLY when they know that’s it’s highly unlikely that they’ll personally be impacted significantly if they catch it. I wouldn’t have taken precautions. Boomers wouldn't have, Gen X wouldn't have, Millennials wouldn't have. Gen Z isn't.

If the expectation was “they’ll spread it and we’ll deal with it,” at least there would be internal logical consistency.

But I’m completely lost how anyone could have thought, as they apparently did, “let’s go through all the trouble bring the kids on campus--25% or more of whom are living away from home for the first time, and the vast majority of whom are from a state that has had them far more heavily restricted than any other neighboring state--and hope that somehow it magically doesn’t spread all over the place. If it does, even without a lot of symptoms, we’ll shut down.”

Seriously, what were they thinking??? Was it just a brazen money grab? What the heck?

How can it be a "kids these days" rant? We can't fucking get adults to do it and we're expecting kids to have more "personal responsibility" bullshit than their parents and grandparents?

And the adults who are doing the hand wringing and pearl clutching about how "kids these days" aren't responsible is lunacy when they can't be bothered to stay away from an Olive Garden for 6 months or wear a goddamn mask.

SI

[spleen1015]

Father in law has tested positive.

He's had a fever, lots of coughing and chest congestion since Saturday afternoon. My mother in law is freaking out. Her results came back negative.

78 years old. Hits the Legion every day. Hits the casino twice a month. He is going to lose his mind having to be cooped up, being sick during this time of the year.

[Thomkal]

Sorry to hear that Spleen.

[JPhillips]

Wish him the best.

We're still waiting on a test for my Mom. They went from weekly testing at her facility to bi-weekly.

[ISiddiqui]

Well this isn't good

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...heir-lockdowns

In the EU, France, Spain and Germany are far from alone in seeing a late-summer rebound in cases: More than a dozen member nations have been seeing week-over-week gains, according to the*European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.

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[Edward64]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Father in law has tested positive.

He's had a fever, lots of coughing and chest congestion since Saturday afternoon. My mother in law is freaking out. Her results came back negative.

78 years old. Hits the Legion every day. Hits the casino twice a month. He is going to lose his mind having to be cooped up, being sick during this time of the year.

Best wishes to him and MIL.

[Kodos]

Good news for those worried about immunity to Covid-19 not lasting very long.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/31/o...-immunity.html

Within the last couple of months, several scientific studies have come out — some peer-reviewed, others not — indicating that the antibody response of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 dropped significantly within two months. The news has sparked fears that the very immunity of patients with Covid-19 may be waning fast — dampening hopes for the development of an effective and durable vaccine.

But these concerns are confused and mistaken.

Both our bodies’ natural immunity and immunity acquired through vaccination serve the same function, which is to inhibit a virus and prevent it from causing a disease. But they don’t always work quite the same way.

And so a finding that naturally occurring antibodies in some Covid-19 patients are fading doesn’t actually mean very much for the likely efficacy of vaccines under development. Science, in this case, can be more effective than nature.

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So do not be alarmed by reports about Covid-19 patients’ dropping antibody counts; those are irrelevant to the prospects of finding a viable vaccine.

Remember instead that more than 165 vaccine candidates already are in the pipeline, some showing promising early trial results.

[cartman]

5 test positive for coronavirus after attending youth event in Brownwood

The event, Unmasked Camp 2020, was held at Heartland Church Aug. 14-16.

[PilotMan]

It was literally called Unmasked Camp 2020?

....it was literally called Unmasked Camp 2020!

What did you think was going to happen?!

[Ksyrup]

KHSAA (KY high school athletic assoc) voted to move forward with fall sports, but the governor has to approve. Given that he's recommended schools stay online until at least September 28th, I'll be surprised if he approves. Pending approval, practices can begin on Monday and fall competition can start on September 7th. Districts are free to opt out even if approved.

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Unmasked Camp 2020

What in the name of liability insurance IS this?

[Ben E Lou]

Dola...speaking of liability, they still have posts up about it on their FB page...




https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...%20camp%202020

[cartman]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

It was literally called Unmasked Camp 2020?

....it was literally called Unmasked Camp 2020!

What did you think was going to happen?!

I think they thought they were going to own the libs.

[Ben E Lou]

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by cartman

I think they thought they were going to own the libs.

I'm sure they were going to pray it all away

[stevew]

Don’t live in fear guys.

[Ksyrup]

Georgia State QB announces he has a heart condition from COVID 19 and won’t play this year https://t.co/aH4CawZdsi

— trey wingo (@wingoz) August 20, 2020

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

KHSAA (KY high school athletic assoc) voted to move forward with fall sports, but the governor has to approve.

This potato seems really hot! Better pass it on to someone else!

[Ksyrup]

Exactly. He's already got the bullseye on his back as a Dem governor trying to do the responsible thing in a red state.

[JPhillips]

Blessed are the unmasked,

For they shall own the libs.

[cuervo72]

And if they die, they go to Heaven. Win/win.

[Lathum]

It amazes me there are a large number of Americans who don’t understand why or refuse to believe we are a global embarrassment

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Dola...speaking of liability, they still have posts up about it on their FB page...

COME SEE A TASTE!

[JPhillips]

Soaking in.

[Atocep]

Coworker tested positive for Covid today. So I was tested and sent home to quarantine for 2 weeks. I'm supposed to get test results back in 24-72 hours.

[Kodos]

Ugh. Hope your test comes back negative.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Coworker tested positive for Covid today. So I was tested and sent home to quarantine for 2 weeks. I'm supposed to get test results back in 24-72 hours.

Was it the stick a swab up-up-up your nose? How did it feel because I'm thinking about going to CVS to get a test soon.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Was it the stick a swab up-up-up your nose? How did it feel because I'm thinking about going to CVS to get a test soon.

I got the brain probe and it sucked. It's not painful, but not something I'd voluntarily do again. Results in 24-72 hours.

My wife went to get a quick test done and is at the clinic now.